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Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Clonefan94 on August 17, 2004, 09:37:30 AM
The only thing they say is it's being built at Campton HIlls Park, just north of Campton Hill Rd. I was wondering if anyone here had some more info on the course itself and when it might be done. All St. Charles says is they are building a course.  
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: airspuds on August 17, 2004, 01:06:17 PM
Campton Hills Park slated for upgrades

The St. Charles Park Board has approved a master plan for improvements at Campton Hills Park.

A $400,000 grant from the Illinois Department of Natural Resources will be used to assist the Park District in beginning implementation of the master plan.

There will be a new water-based playground, expected to open in summer 2005; a permanent dog park; basketball courts; expanded pedestrian hiking trails; new landscaping along Campton Hills and Peck roads; and a new 400-car parking lot and entry off Peck Road.

Soccer fields will be developed south of the existing fields.

To the north of Campton Hills Road, a disc golf course is planned. A shelter will be developed.

The aero field will be relocated south of Route 38 on property owned by St. Charles.

The long-range plan includes construction of an outdoor swimming pool, a community center and a nature center.

Call Denny Ryan at (630) 584-1885.

http://www.kcchronicle.com/print/281161997292572.php (http://www.kcchronicle.com/print/281161997292572.php)

Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: airspuds on August 17, 2004, 01:11:25 PM
dennyr@st-charlesparks.org  
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Chris on July 29, 2005, 10:03:39 AM
Saw that this park is now in the ground. I'm going to make a trip this weekend to check it out & will post a review here on Monday. Has anyone played this yet??
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Clonefan94 on July 29, 2005, 10:05:36 AM
Cool, I might check that out. Is it in place where they originally said it was going to be? North of Campton Hill Rd? How many holes?
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Chainmeister on July 29, 2005, 10:51:47 AM
The park is in the ground but is the course in the park?  The website makes no mention of disc golf anywhere.  
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Clonefan94 on July 29, 2005, 12:54:14 PM
QuoteThe park is in the ground but is the course in the park?  The website makes no mention of disc golf anywhere.
That's pretty much the way it's been for a year now. Their website says the same thing it did last year about it. And that is in some PDF newsletter that I have to google to find. I do have to go out to Geneva this weekend. So, maybe I'll pop over there and see what's up.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Clonefan94 on July 29, 2005, 02:25:04 PM
A guy at work, who lives out near there called the St. Charles Park District just now. 4:20pm. The lady he talked to said the course was not in the ground yet and all she knew was they have major plans but have not started work yet. So, unless I hear different, I probably won't go out there yet.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Chris on August 05, 2005, 03:33:47 PM
I played this course last weekend, 7/30. Short course completely in the woods, but elevation change on every hole. A few holes have you shooting upward w/an elevation change of +50'! I threw 4-5 on every hole and only felt like I needed to play it once. Check it out if you're in the area, but if you have to drive a distance I wouldn't recommend that as your only stop.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Chris on August 05, 2005, 03:36:40 PM
BTW, I meant to say I threw 4-5 discs on each hole, not scored 4-5 as it sounds. (JEEZ!) Just had to clarify that for my own sanity.
P.S. Check out playdg.com. Wish the whole PDGA directory were in that format...
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: JohnBrady on August 08, 2005, 08:59:38 AM
The course just opened about a week ago - the holes are short, but the elevation changes and the technical shots required make it worth playing.  I was there yesterday and there were never less than 10 cars in the small parking lot - most cars carried a few teens.  this was a suprise since there seems to have been no announcement that this is open.  I live in St. Charles and have never had any luck getting info on this since the first announcement that they were going to use this land for the course.  I shot  well on the first outing (-5), but have no problem recomending this course.  The elevation changes required the park to build out staircases that probably cost more than any other part of the course.  The tee pads are wood frames with crushed lime stone - the baskets are Innova DiscCatchers - I am not ashamed to call this little course my home course.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Clonefan94 on August 09, 2005, 05:36:37 PM
Good to know I will check it out. It's also good to know the park district is so up on it's own affairs. Jeez.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: JohnBrady on August 17, 2005, 09:11:20 AM
St. Charles just issued a press release on thier wesite to announce this course.
http://www.st-charlesparks.org/links/PR-discgolf.htm (http://www.st-charlesparks.org/links/PR-discgolf.htm)
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: JohnBrady on August 17, 2005, 10:01:25 AM
I should be able to post some pics on this course after the weekend - I think that the pics will suprise people - this is a short course but well guarded by trees, and alot of uphill and downhill play - just walking the course is a workout.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: JohnBrady on September 05, 2005, 08:29:00 PM
I have a few pics of this course - here is the 6th tee - looking down to the basket
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: JohnBrady on September 05, 2005, 08:30:20 PM
Here is the 7th Tee looking up to the basket
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Clonefan94 on September 07, 2005, 03:23:42 PM
There was an article in Saturday's Daily Herald about this course. I'd link but it just asks for name and password. If you want to find it, do a search for "disc golf" on the daily herald website and click on the article, "Disc golf takes off in St. Charles" by Rachel Baruch.

It talks about the course a little bit and who helped them out. Not great, but getting the word out at least.
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 23, 2005, 06:42:01 PM
This course is a very short course. Of the 4 courses we played today, I enjoyed this course the most. There is some great elevation & they put some nice stairs on this course. It's a great place to bring out a few putters. It is a birdie or die course but they are not gimme birdies for the most part. You have to make quality shots to take birdes.  
Title: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: JohnBrady on September 26, 2005, 08:35:24 AM
This is a great course to work on your short game and accurate approaches.  They did a really nice job of creating an interesting couse on this small patch of land.  I know that the distances are all very short and that will keep some people from checking it out, but IMO it is worth drive.
Title: Reopened
Post by: can't putt on January 08, 2007, 10:51:53 AM
St. Charles was closed for the winter but is now re-opened.  I was talking to a Park District guy there today and he said so many people were cutting through neighborhood yards to access the course that they either had to pull the baskets or re-open.  They decided on the latter.  He also said they were going to redo the tee boxes in the spring and add rubber mats like Mokena (they didn't want to mix concrete on site).  I suggested he visit the PDGA site for design guidelines and lengthen the tee boxes on #'s 1,5, and 8 (at least).  I also suggested that they dig in logs (old telephone poles) to terrace the hills on #7 & #8.  The Park District guy liked that idea, but we'll see...
Title: Re: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: CEValkyrie on January 10, 2007, 07:13:31 AM
Thanks for the update and educating the PD about tee pads!
Title: Re: Reopened
Post by: Mukey on January 10, 2007, 07:21:34 AM
Quote from: can't putt on January 08, 2007, 10:51:53 AM
St. Charles was closed for the winter but is now re-opened.  I was talking to a Park District guy there today and he said so many people were cutting through neighborhood yards to access the course that they either had to pull the baskets or re-open.  They decided on the latter.  He also said they were going to redo the tee boxes in the spring and add rubber mats like Mokena (they didn't want to mix concrete on site).  I suggested he visit the PDGA site for design guidelines and lengthen the tee boxes on #'s 1,5, and 8 (at least).  I also suggested that they dig in logs (old telephone poles) to terrace the hills on #7 & #8.  The Park District guy liked that idea, but we'll see...

Maybe they might put in more pins seeing as it's getting played a bunch? That would rock, but only 1 9 hole course I've known has ever done that in my 5 years knowing about disc golf- Oswego. St. Charles is a really fun 9er but I usually want to play it more than 2x through
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Post by: pickax on January 10, 2007, 07:32:19 AM
There's no room to add any more. When I play St. Charles, I take just a soft rhyno and UV challenger. Usually I go around 3 or 4 times. It would be nice if there were another 9 nearby there so I could make the trip more worthwhile, but it would have to be on a different property.
Title: Re: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: Abelardo Arenas on January 10, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: krupicka on January 10, 2007, 07:32:19 AM
There's no room to add any more. It would be nice if there were another 9 nearby there so I could make the trip more worthwhile, but it would have to be on a different property.

Across the street. Down by the first entrance which most people turn in to, when they don't know that the course is still up the street. I think there is even an abandoned shelter there right now, which looks out across a field. And beyond that is a good wooded area.   

But like the post above yours reads, courses don't go from 9 to 18 in Illinois. Oswego did, only because of 3 people (Ken Close, John Tiffany, and Tree Camp). They kept on the Park District, and did the legwork needed to make it happen. St Charles would need the same.   
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Post by: can't putt on January 10, 2007, 12:41:12 PM
That land across the street, west of the shelter, used to belong to the St. Charles Archery Club.  It would be ideal for an 18 holer.  I talked to the Park District guy about that and he said "No way, that's all designated natural area".

Mike's right about there being no room to expand.  Gary designed this course and initially had it layed out as 18 but the local naturalists kept cutting it down until he barely had room to put in 9.
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Post by: stpitner on January 10, 2007, 12:53:17 PM
I wonder if there is something somewhere along north ave between St. Charles and Carol Stream where you could get a course in there.  There's a couple forest preserves... but there's usually a reason they call it a "preserve" and not a "see how much bark I just knocked off that tree with my drive???"  Trees are certainly necessary considering this particular area doesn't need another Bartlett-open-style 18-hole course!
Title: Re: Reopened
Post by: atowndoug on January 21, 2007, 07:58:17 PM
Quote from: can't putt on January 08, 2007, 10:51:53 AM
St. Charles was closed for the winter but is now re-opened.  I was talking to a Park District guy there today and he said so many people were cutting through neighborhood yards to access the course that they either had to pull the baskets or re-open.  They decided on the latter.  He also said they were going to redo the tee boxes in the spring and add rubber mats like Mokena (they didn't want to mix concrete on site).  I suggested he visit the PDGA site for design guidelines and lengthen the tee boxes on #'s 1,5, and 8 (at least).  I also suggested that they dig in logs (old telephone poles) to terrace the hills on #7 & #8.  The Park District guy liked that idea, but we'll see...


I wish guys would not cut through yards to get to the course, that is not cool at all.  I was just out there yesterday and the gate is closed, still played a couple rounds in the snow.  I just parked in the neighborhood right before the parking lot and walked along the road to the course.  I'm not sure if I was technically tresspassing or not, is the course closed and off limits or just the parking lot?    :-\
Title: Re: Reopened
Post by: Abelardo Arenas on January 21, 2007, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: atowndoug on January 21, 2007, 07:58:17 PM

I wish guys would not cut through yards to get to the course, that is not cool at all.  I was just out there yesterday and the gate is closed, still played a couple rounds in the snow.  I just parked in the neighborhood right before the parking lot and walked along the road to the course.  I'm not sure if I was technically tresspassing or not, is the course closed and off limits or just the parking lot?    :-\

They close the gate to keep people from playing the course, slipping on the staircases and steep inclines, and filing lawsuits. So you can play it. If a Park Ranger shows up, he might just ask you to leave. No big deal.
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Post by: Bruce Brakel on January 21, 2007, 10:06:02 PM
If there is a sign saying Park Closed, or No Trespassing, or Do Not Enter, you're trespassing.  If there is no sign, then I'd have to check Illinois law, but in most states it is not criminal or actionable if you trespass on lands closed to the public unknowingly. 

But it does not matter what the law is if the cop does not know the law and the judge won't be bothered to look it up.

I figure, if there is pedestrian access and no signage, I'm going to play until someone tells me its against the law.  We played E-town when the course was closed because they were doing holiday lights in the park.  There was no sign saying we couldn't play.  It was just obvious when you have to throw a hyzer around an angel and thumb over the whole Baby Jesus entourage, that they are thinking no one is supposed to be playing disc golf.  But it made a lame hole interesting!  I was rehearsing my lines, "We're from out of town.  We did not know.  Someone told us to park at the K-Mart and start on hole 6.  They didn't say the course was closed, just the front gate.  We didn't know there were security cameras and proximity detectors around the stable until we went over there to pay our respects to the Family." 
Title: Re: Any info on the St. Charles course being built.
Post by: can't putt on January 22, 2007, 04:55:42 AM
Sorry, I forgot to mention that it was closed again.

It is clearly closed -- there is no pedestrian access and the parking lot has a big gate across it.  There is no sign saying closed, however.  I wouldn't park in the neighborhood.  Park instead in the park across the street about 1/4 mile east of the course.  This looks like (and is) the entry to the St. Charles Youth Correctional Center, but it's actually a park before you get to the barbed wire.
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Post by: can't putt on January 22, 2007, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: can't putt on January 22, 2007, 04:55:42 AMThere is no sign saying closed, however.

Except for the one on the closed gate that says "Park Closed For Winter".  :rolleyes:
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Post by: jsun3thousand on March 08, 2007, 09:31:04 AM
When does the course officially reopen?
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Post by: atowndoug on March 11, 2007, 10:17:30 PM
well I went there today(3/11) to walk the dog and possibly play a round, but the gate is still closed and now the baskets have been pulled  :-\.  So if you were planning on sneaking in for a round while the weather is warmer think again.  Anyone have the inside info. when this course will be open?
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Post by: jsun3thousand on March 13, 2007, 12:38:22 PM
I just got off the phone with the St. Charles parks department and the woman I talked to said the course should be open this weekend.
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Post by: jsun3thousand on March 17, 2007, 06:46:56 PM
The course is open and in good condition. The path from eight's pin to the tee box for nine is a little slippery. I played a couple of rounds with atowndoug today. It was fun Doug,  we should throw together again some time in the future.     
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Post by: atowndoug on March 20, 2007, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: jsun3thousand on March 17, 2007, 06:46:56 PM
The course is open and in good condition. The path from eight's pin to the tee box for nine is a little slippery. I played a couple of rounds with atowndoug today. It was fun Doug,  we should throw together again some time in the future.     

hell yea dude!  I am always up for throwing a few rounds at that course.  I was thinking about that informal singles tournament we were discussing.  Maybe you and I could organize something over the summer?  Wouldn't be much work and it should be a lot of fun.  Think about it.
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Post by: pickax on March 21, 2007, 06:39:02 AM
I've toyed around with the idea of running a tournament at St. Charles that would be putters-only. In addition to an ace pot, I would also have a "perfect" round pot (score of 36). If there was local that wanted to do the leg work with the Park District and getting local sponsorship, I think it would be a lot of fun.
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Post by: CJI on March 26, 2007, 12:46:42 PM
New to the board....but not the course. Its open again for the new year. They actually had the gates locked Friday I think it was to lay out some of the woodchips. Course is in great shape with minimal mud at the bottom of 8. 5 trips there so far, and heading out again tonight.

If I can lend a hand with a any tournaments or mixed doubles this summer, just let me know.
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Post by: can't putt on June 08, 2007, 05:39:46 PM
St. Charles will be closed 6/11 through 6/14 (2007).  Not sure why, but I'm assuming for the improvements they told me about over the winter (see post about a page or so above).
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Post by: can't putt on June 16, 2007, 09:05:25 AM
RAPED!!!

That's the only way to describe it.  I played a quick 9 at St. Charles this morning and shot +3 ... playing every hole as Par 2.  Two really bad throws kept me from -8 (Par 3).

Nothing was done to the tee boxes.  Nothing was done to curtail erosion on 7 and 8.

LOTS of trees and branches were removed.  The hole most damaged is 5.  The first tree in the middle of the fairway that forced a decision -- gone.  The big tree on the left side of the fairway about 2/3 of the way to the basket -- reduced to a 4' stump.  The large oak just behind and left of the basket -- all limbs removed below 20'.  The only thing that looks a little harder is the deep shule -- for the most part the removed trees and limbs have simply been tossed there.

I predict a -10 will be scored here very soon.  -8 will be commonplace.  Best shot doubles will be a joke.
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Post by: CJI on June 29, 2007, 07:41:08 AM
Can't Putt...I could not agree more. When i went out a few weeks ago and saw what they did with the tree removal, I could not believe my eyes :unsure: Why in the hell would they remove that first tree on 5...it only made the hole what it was!!! On 7, they took out one of the first trees on the left, which now gives a perfect alley for a simple straight shot, and no need for a big bender.

They did add a bunch of limestone to the tee boxes, but with the amount of play this course gets now (ealiey up 100% from 1 year ago) the tee's will be uneven in the very near future.

Don't get me wrong, I still love playing this course...but this tree removal was not really thought through IMO.
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Post by: stpitner on June 29, 2007, 08:12:55 AM
is there anybody that can be contacted to inform them - hey, why did you take out the trees?  Maybe there was a vocal group of people saying the trees made it too hard (from only casual players).

Nothing really gets done unless your voice gets heard by someone that can do something about it.
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Post by: danknugs on June 29, 2007, 12:31:33 PM


I hate that they took out so many trees, im far from a pro by all means but this course is just way to easy now. I used to love playing this course and now with the amount of trees that have been taken out I think I might quit playing this course
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Post by: can't putt on August 25, 2007, 08:14:01 AM
St. Charles is closed due to storm damage.  The park disctrict is working on it today.
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Post by: jsun3thousand on August 25, 2007, 08:13:14 PM
The course was reopened by 2 p.m today. Hole 4 lost a couple of trees near the pin. There is some water near the base of the hill on 8, but besides being a little soggy,  the course is playable. Climbing the hills was a little rough- but with the lack of chuckers, DeKalb being underwater, and Kirkland probably unplayable-  I wasn't upset with the course conditions. Jason   
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Post by: CJI on August 27, 2007, 12:47:29 PM
Nice...i will be out there later this afternoon :)
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Post by: tjdub42 on September 17, 2007, 12:46:25 PM
The gate at the St. Charles course was closed at 4PM yesterday, Sun 9/16/07.  Anyone know why?
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Post by: tjdub42 on September 24, 2007, 09:37:35 AM
Gates for the St. Charles course were open on Sunday afternoon, 5-7 cars in the parking lot.
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Post by: CJI on October 19, 2007, 08:01:14 AM
The paved the entrance last weekend, and looks like the entire lot might be done in the near future. Was out there on wednesday afternoon, and noticed a few park district employees with a blue print or two....lets keep our fingers crossed for 9 more holes :)
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Post by: stpitner on October 19, 2007, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: CJI on October 19, 2007, 08:01:14 AM
The paved th entrance last weekend, and looks like the ntire lot might be done i nthe near future. Was out there on wednesdayafternoon, and noticed a few park district employees with a blue print or two....lets keep our fiongers crossed for 9 more holes :)

Wouldn't mind seeing a couple of the new holes just redone (or at least just hole 2) along with a bigger parking lot, but 18 would be sweet too :)
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Post by: Mukey on October 20, 2007, 08:15:41 AM
Quote from: CJI on October 19, 2007, 08:01:14 AM
The paved th entrance last weekend, and looks like the ntire lot might be done i nthe near future. Was out there on wednesdayafternoon, and noticed a few park district employees with a blue print or two....lets keep our fiongers crossed for 9 more holes :)

Heck yeah! If we use Michler Logic, that course will get better than a LOT of courses in the state just by having another 9 baskets   ;D
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Post by: CJI on March 13, 2008, 11:04:51 AM
Drove by the course yesterday...no activity at all. Gates Closed, baskets still out :'( This is the longest the park district has waited in three years to get the course back opne after the winter.
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Post by: CJI on March 25, 2008, 08:20:36 AM
 :) Baskets are in!!!!!!  
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Post by: wags on March 25, 2008, 09:09:00 AM
Gates open yet?
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Post by: CJI on March 26, 2008, 07:14:31 AM
good question....It was late Monday when I drove by, but I will be going to play this afternoon and will let you know.
Title: St. Charles
Post by: can't putt on June 27, 2008, 09:13:20 AM
THE GOOD:
     New crushed limestone has finally been added to the tee boxes.

THE BAD:
     It was not tamped down.

THE UGLY:
     Nor was it leveled.  It was loosely spread with a shovel.  Some tee pads were slightly mounded in the middle in apparent attempt to compensate for the hole that will quickly develop.  It's like throwing off a sandy beach.  In fact, some tees have had some of the mounded limestone kicked off, presumedly to establish firm footing.