DISContinuum DISCussion

Disc Golf Related => Courses => Topic started by: CEValkyrie on August 26, 2004, 10:21:03 AM

Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 26, 2004, 10:21:03 AM
Just found out today at school that there is a course in the works somewhere between Hunt Club & 45.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on August 26, 2004, 10:30:40 AM
Holy shit! Its gotta be @ the TWP center... I'm a gonna call right now.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on August 26, 2004, 10:55:17 AM
Just got off the phone with Ray Baker, the parks admin.
Here's the scoop:

The course is going in the ground @ the Township Center, corner of Almond Road & Washington.
Its located back in the woods on the West side of the property.
Course is currently 9 holes as laid out, however there is mucho room for expansion in the coming years provided the course is accepted well.
Tees are gravel for this year, they're considering the concrete upgrade for next year.
The tees and anchors are in the ground. Basket installation could be as early as THIS WEEKEND!

Colin Glancey & Parker Russel apparently have been working with the Parks Dept. in proposing and designing the course. Anybody know these people?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 26, 2004, 07:42:16 PM
I didn't see Mirth's post until I got home tonight. I happened to call Mirth after I got done doing some work at Bevier. I was surprised about the information. I couldn't resist & headed straight to the course. The collars are in & they have bright orange snow fence around them so it was easy to see where the baskets were.

I started playing the course. I'm 99.9% sure I played the course right.

The tee pads suck really bad. I usually can throw off any type of surface but these were awful. It's big gravel & loose. Most of the tee pads weren't really aiming towards the basket either. It was awkward. 2 of the holes had two tee pads. A short & long.

I'm really excited that this course is going into the ground from one sense. It will bring more players into the sport in this area. It has several very long tough wooded holes. I used a putter to throw 3 of the wooded holes as well. The hole on the sled hill is fun throwing off of. 4 of the holes were really easy birdie holes.

I however from a selfish stand point am very disappointed as well. This park has plenty of room for an awesome 9 hole course & possibly 18 if routed right. Many areas were not utilized. There are plenty of 9 hole courses in the suburbs. We need an awesome championship calibur course in this area to push our games to the next level. I still can't get the saying from Uncle Joe out of my head. At the Ice Bowl there were several IL players there & he said "so & so from IL, the state of the 9-holer."
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mangler on August 27, 2004, 07:53:03 AM
Discontinuum should create a design committee and address the the current climate in Lake County. It should consist of Lake county residents and use advice from outside sources. Keep the group small maybe three at most. Create examples for PD"s that do not have courses and address matters for the ones that do.. Then address bigger problems that the sport is faceing...

Warren Township is old news..."Disc Golf in a Box" Easy to assemble.

as for 18 Hole course in LAKE COUNTY it is closer than you think. I will not discuss this on the board however. If you want to talk Im easy to get a hold of.

Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 27, 2004, 10:06:31 AM
Quoteas for 18 Hole course in LAKE COUNTY it is closer than you think. I will not discuss this on the board however. If you want to talk Im easy to get a hold of.
I just hope it's a good one. We already have every type of recreational & intermediate type of course anyone needs. Just think, Fairfield is the premier 18 & Adler is the best 9-holer. Even playing Safari holes I can't even come close to practicing & getting ready for Peoria, Worlds, or Am Nationals if I was going.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mangler on August 27, 2004, 10:23:49 AM
Ill be at Fairfield Saturday and Sunday Morning. The ball is rolling and my time is limited. If you want 18 than someone with more time than myself will have to get involved.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 27, 2004, 10:26:06 AM
QuoteIf you want 18 than someone with more time than myself will have to get involved.
I always have lots of time in the fall.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mangler on August 27, 2004, 11:21:29 AM
This Monday Night 7:00pm
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on August 27, 2004, 12:07:06 PM
Them sounds like fightin words! ;)
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on August 27, 2004, 01:01:43 PM
Quote
QuoteIf you want 18 than someone with more time than myself will have to get involved.
I always have lots of time in the fall.
I can make time for the right project. I'd like to see the land and make an evaluation. I'll talk to you on Saturday, Al.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on August 31, 2004, 04:29:39 PM
Played the yet-to-be-installed course today on my way home from work.  I didn't think the tees were too bad, both in composure and direction towards the basket. Yeah, there are some that could have been positioned better but honestly I like the concept of pointing you towards the best route to the basket versus straight at the basket.

Baskets aren't in the ground yet, and the orange snow fence surrounding the anchors has been removed... It was hard to figure out where I was throwing, thats for sure! The walk in between the 3rd basket and 4th tee is begging for another hole, I'd say the walk alone is 350-400 feet! It would be sick for them to put a tee just over the walking path & put the basket on top of the big dirt pile towards #4's basket.

Get out there & you'll see what I mean. Maybe it could be a winter placement for one of the sled hill baskets...

All in all, it looks to be pretty fun. There are some pretty tight corridors you need to weave through. I drove a roc on 2/3 of the holes.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on September 01, 2004, 04:49:15 PM
I played this course this afternoon.  I think it has real potential to be the best course in the northern suburbs.  There is room out there to make a good 18 holer out there if they wanted.  the terrain is good for golf because of all the trees.  As the course is now it will prolly be a fun 9 holer.  the tee pads are ridiculous.  they are composed of big frickin rocks instead of fine gravel or dirt.  I'd rather tee off from the side.  There is so much more room out there I think we could easily make some alternate tees and have a really challenging 9 holes.  I really have hope that this could become our premier course in the long run.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 03, 2004, 07:47:32 PM
Just drove thru right before the park closed tonight - baskets are in, looks like they're Mach 5.... number plates on top.


Anyone up for a round or three tomorrow afternoon after 3? ;)
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on September 04, 2004, 05:31:08 AM
Thats awesome.  can't wait to actually play the course with the baskets in.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 04, 2004, 03:42:45 PM
Turns out only basket #9 is in the ground for some bizarre reason.

Perhaps its to say 'hey, we got a disc golf course going in here!'

Lost my green Viking on my drive on hole 9. Looks like this:
(http://www.drdyed.com/albums/10-and-up-dye-jobs/J_bear_Mirth.sized.jpg)

Reward if returned... No idea where it went. It sure didn't look like it got caught up in the crap on the side of the sled hill, in fact I'd swear it made it around the corner. Thought I'd be parked & instead the disc vanished...
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: D on September 05, 2004, 03:19:44 PM
mach 5s?

where is the challenge?!?!
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 05, 2004, 04:46:17 PM
The challenge lies within the tree lined fairways... Think hole A or any of the wooded holes @ Parkside.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: drdye on September 05, 2004, 07:09:20 PM
Well that sucks Mirth :(   If it doesnt get returned I can always dye it up again for you!!
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 05, 2004, 07:53:12 PM
Yeah, I was thinking that Joe... It could have very well been the first disc lost out there. :(
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 09, 2004, 04:14:01 PM
Drove through today on my way home, all the baskets are in plus what appears to be a practice basket after the first hole of all places.

Saw a 6-some out one discing it.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mike on September 09, 2004, 07:48:49 PM
Walked the course this weeked. This one will be a fun one to play.  #9 was the only one up, #8 looks to be (to me) the coolest one and with all the water we will need some scuba gear. Glad to hear all the baskets are now up, might need to take a little trip this weekend and really see how this ones plays.
Mike
Has anyone contacted Zions Park District to see if they might want to get into this sport?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on September 09, 2004, 08:19:15 PM
the water doesn't really come into play unless u get a bad kick off of a tree on hole 9.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mangler on September 10, 2004, 02:42:32 PM
Played 7,8,9
Looks great so far...looks like all baskets in.
Very good to see longer distances hopefully this trend will continue in lake county.
I put first throw from 8 onto Washington ST. This could be problematic.
#9 alternate through fountain (FOR FUN)

Look forward to playing all 9 soon.

Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on September 10, 2004, 05:26:44 PM
I hope this trend of 9 hole courses in lake county can stop though.  thats way too many holes!!!  I would like to knock out a round in 5 or 10 minutes, so i wish there were more 7 holers like in Wildwood.  that place in on the cutting edge of where disc golf is headed.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mangler on September 10, 2004, 07:13:59 PM
Wildwood is played loyaly by local players and is producing great young players that would not have had this exposure. It is a quiet park and is great for practicing. If bored with it play it Backwards or play alternate tee area.YOU DECIDE ! Bad rapping wildwood does not promote the game. Keep the faith Lake County is going to explode with more courses. 18 Challenging Holes is difficult but someone will get it right ! Work on your game and support the sport.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: airspuds on September 11, 2004, 05:33:55 AM
http://www.pdga.com/course/courses_by_stat...S&Search=Search (http://www.pdga.com/course/courses_by_state.php?admin=&SearchZip=60655&SearchCity=&SearchState=&SearchCountry=UNITED+STATES&Search=Search)


id be happy with a nine holer close to me

it takes at least 20 minutes to get to closest course

nice sarcasm dan
i think mangler missed it

mangler - i think what dan is trying to say is that the nine holer
courses in the northern area are not challanging to the
advanced players  

he wants courses like lemon lake county park in cedar lake, IN
type   27 baskets in the ground  and challanging not just pitch and putt

dan - mangler gots a point   the newbies have to start somewhere

any one ever play the course in oak lawn, il  at 95th and Nashville (by the mall)
in the old days   hell we played this course with frisbees and then
the one disc (eclipse)  the course was to small using discs
so they pulled it  fun little course though

the problem is that the land available for disc course development in the Northern
area is expensive why put a disc course in if you can put houses or condos
and it also seems that the smaller communities have limited space of unused land




Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on September 11, 2004, 07:36:38 PM
airspuds mode engaged  :P

mangler - I agree that the short courses help promote the sport.

airspuds - thanks for mediating

mangler - I would like to see a well designed 18 hole course in Lake County.  I guarantee it would be a heavily played course that would do alot more for the sport than putting 5 more wildwoods and buffalo groves would.

airspuds - good point about the lack of available land

mangler - I don't want to have to play a course backwards to make it fun.  I play every day and stuff like that gets old pretty quick.

airspuds - ur posts are awesome dude

dan - ur an idiot

airspuds - the white sox suck

everybody - don't take my posts too seriously

single girls in their early 20's - give me a call
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 11, 2004, 10:01:52 PM
Today's episode of thread drift brought to you, in part, by Dan Michler.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 15, 2004, 06:01:14 AM
Dan & I played for tags there last night.

Hole #3 is by far the toughest hole on the course. I cannot 2 it right now. I don't have a turnover driver that can hold a line for that long distance & my Roc attempt came approx 50 to 75 feet short.

Hole 9 is not 2'able for me as well.

I managed to 2 #5 both rounds last night. That hole is fun.

Between Dan & I we 2'd every hole on the course except #3 & #9.

I still think the tee pads are about as bad as i've seen. Poor Dan was sliding all over the place. The tee signs on several holes are right by the tee pad.

The other big complaint I have is how far hole #1 is from the parking lot & the long walk from #3 to #4.

This however is a fun course & probably tougher than Adler. In my opinion it is a better course than Adler but it could be the best 18 hole course in this area. That is what is frustrating to me.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 07:30:31 AM
I don't like how crooked the tee signs are, its like somebody was drunk when they were installed.

Still really don't mind the pads, personally, and I can deuce #9! :P
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: airspuds on September 15, 2004, 11:01:39 AM
where is this again  ?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 11:05:01 AM
Huge park on the corner of Washington & Almond in Gurnee. Basically take Washington St. West till you hit Almond. If you reach US 45 you've gone too far & need to turn around.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 15, 2004, 02:22:46 PM
QuoteHuge park on the corner of Washington & Almond in Gurnee. Basically take Washington St. West till you hit Almond. If you reach US 45 you've gone too far & need to turn around.
Sounds like you now have a good cluster of courses for that tournament Jon wants to run where you play several short courses with several short drives.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on September 15, 2004, 02:33:29 PM
that'd be a fun tourney.  maybe bevier, adler, and warren township.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 02:35:27 PM
that would be amazing
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 02:50:53 PM
Quotethat would be amazing
So what happened to you?
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 02:52:55 PM
I turned onto Gages Lake at like 3:55 and it started to pour- skies just opened up.

Didn't seem like it would stop so I turned around

I think I'm going to head out there again, I'd really like to play there
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 02:55:30 PM
Heh, missed my window of opportunity for today. I played 3 holes and didn't really feel like going on. This after waiting ~25 minutes for the downpour to let up.

Brett and I will be playing there on Friday. I have the next couple days off... :)
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Post by: Jon Brakel on September 15, 2004, 02:56:18 PM
Quotethat'd be a fun tourney.  maybe bevier, adler, and warren township.
Finals at Wildwood.
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 02:58:37 PM
Quote
Quotethat'd be a fun tourney.  maybe bevier, adler, and warren township.
Finals at Wildwood.
Todd and I played a super-min-tour like once a week in the summer

Wildwood, Mundelein, Adler

add in Bevier and Warren and that would be an amazing freakin tournament. Not to mention the chance to play my home course for something other than leagues ;)

Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 02:58:41 PM
What about Grayslake or Mundelein? They're all ~30 minutes from Bevier.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: SuperSoft on September 15, 2004, 03:00:53 PM
Elk Grove, Palatine, Buffalo Grove!
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 03:05:44 PM
Okay, this isn't name your favorite local small course...
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 03:06:56 PM
Anywho, I'd really like to play Warren tonight Mirth.

Want to meet out there at 6?
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Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 03:12:34 PM
QuoteHeh, missed my window of opportunity for today. I played 3 holes and didn't really feel like going on. This after waiting ~25 minutes for the downpour to let up.

Brett and I will be playing there on Friday. I have the next couple days off... :)
..
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 03:17:08 PM
boooooooooooooo
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Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 03:18:44 PM
Some day you will understand, grasshopper.
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 03:27:38 PM
::ribbitt::

:)  
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 06:02:49 PM
HOLY SHEEEEEEET

I am in love with this course.

I couldn't find hole 1 so I drove around and started on hole 4, then meet up with Kenny and he showed me the course.

I'm really impressed. It reminds me of a mini-Yulga. I love the mix of short holes and long holes. 8 and 9 are a blast (missed a 40ftr on 8 for 2 and took a 3 on 9) Hole 3 is pretty cool too.

My first shot on hole 1 hit the basket then I tried a sidearm and it skipped right under it.. Good hole ;)

I looked for your disc for about 20mins Mirth, no sign- I think it is possible it skipped, caught and edge and rolled to the pines, but I still couldn't find it.

I really had alot of fun, I played all 9 holes, shot a few alternates I made up, and putted on 9s basket untill about 745. Sweet course, alot of potential but if they don't change it I won't care, it's awesome
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Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 07:26:52 PM
Yeah, I like it a lot. Best part is that I live on the Ease side of Almond in that subdivision... :D
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 08:41:47 PM
Bastard  :P

That course will definitely spawn good golfers, and improve everyones game who plays it.

Lucky ducky Mirth
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2004, 08:42:51 PM
It should be fun in the winter too, although its too bad they're removing 8 & 9 due to sledding...
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Post by: D on September 15, 2004, 08:49:08 PM
Ewwwwwww..

That takes alot away from the course, I was actually thinking how sweet it would be to have leagues there in the winter.


They should make it 18 then if they're going to be removing holes in the winter..  $0.02
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Post by: CEValkyrie on September 16, 2004, 05:54:39 AM
QuoteStill really don't mind the pads, personally, and I can deuce #9! :P
From the long or short? If the long, did you take the anhyzer route or did you throw over the sled hill.

Dan & I have yet to get anywhere close to 2'ing it from the long.  
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Post by: mirth on September 16, 2004, 07:04:18 AM
Long annie. ;)
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Post by: mirth on September 16, 2004, 03:17:41 PM
Ran into Diron & Todd while out throwing today. Beautiful day! :)

Played 9 for tags, Todd kept his #18 while I traded my 43 for Diron's 33 which was at my house.

Liking the UV-Xpress I picked up at the Blast. I chucked it off the top of the hill clear across Washington street... prolly a 450' s-curve drive.
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Post by: D on September 16, 2004, 03:23:19 PM
I 'stole' 18 from Todd

We both shot a shitty 18 holes at Adler but somehow I managed to shoot less shitty..

You and Todd really handed me my ass this afternoon  <_<


I'd like to make it out to Warren tomorrow around noon, that is a sweet course
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 16, 2004, 03:26:19 PM
Hey Brett - can we make it any later or earlier in the day tomorrow? I may have to be in libertyville tomorrow at 11.
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Post by: Cjkust on September 17, 2004, 09:59:17 AM
Where is the course in warren township?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: D on September 17, 2004, 11:06:34 AM
(Coming from Libertyville)

Take 21 N to Gages Lake Rd.

Head W on Gages Lake Rd. to Almond

Head N on Almond to park entrance before Washington St.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: SuperSoft on September 17, 2004, 03:59:15 PM
How do you get there from 94?
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Post by: D on September 17, 2004, 04:08:55 PM
i94?

I believe you would i94 N, then exit @ Buckley RD and head West on Buckley/Peterson/137 (whatever you want to call it) to Milwaukee Ave then N on Milwaukee and same directions as above

What town are you from SuperSoft
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on September 17, 2004, 09:46:34 PM
Better directions from 94 Northbound:
Exit Rt 120 West towards Grayslake.
120 to Hunt Club, right (only way you can turn, first stoplight)
Hunt Club North to Washington
Left on Washington
Washington to Almond Rd, next light, go left
Right into the Warren Twp Center, park by Shelter C, walk around ball diamond to 1st tee in woods.

Southbound on 94:
Exit Grand Ave West (no exit on 120)
Grand Ave to Hunt Club Rd, turn left
Hunt Club to Washington (bank on corner), go right.
Washington to Almond Rd, go left
Turn into park.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: airspuds on September 18, 2004, 06:03:28 AM
now that s directions

:)  
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Post by: airspuds on September 19, 2004, 08:25:43 AM
on pdga list   now

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Post by: Guest on October 04, 2004, 10:50:43 AM
For a guy who doesn't play disc golf, Ray Baker sure promotes disc golf. He says the remaining signs (course sign and directionals) will be in soon.

I think the course is short but challenging, and a ton of fun to play. Yes, too bad about the sled hill's Holes 8 & 9 being closed during the winter, but heck, I just LOOOOOVE 7-hole courses, right Jon?  :P  Also, I found 4 of the holes had dual tees; are there more?

A friendly observation:
Seems to me that coures are being installed and DISContinuum has little to do with these projects.  If you want an 18-hole course, get out to park districts and make some presentations. Or, design some alternate tees for existing courses - this is a cheap way of improving the course that Park Districts can understand.  I'd like to see you guys out some effort into creating courses instead of just having tourneys. There is a lot of talent in the club - I urge you to expand your horizons.

Total Distinct Holes in Lake County: 105*

(*) 36-Bevier, 7-Wildwood, 18-Fairfield, 13-Adler, 9-Fink, 9-DannyCunniff, 13-WarrenTwp.  I might be off by a few on the number of alternate tees at Adler and Warren.

A friendly question:  Are any leagues proposed for Warren Twp?

-Scooter
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Post by: Jon Brakel on October 04, 2004, 12:10:56 PM
You missed the nine at Buffalo Grove. 114?
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Post by: Jon Brakel on October 04, 2004, 12:17:58 PM
deerfield and mundelein
add another 18
132?
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Post by: CEValkyrie on October 04, 2004, 01:18:12 PM
Is Glencoe in Lake County?
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Post by: CEValkyrie on October 04, 2004, 01:33:33 PM
QuoteFor a guy who doesn't play disc golf, Ray Baker sure promotes disc golf. He says the remaining signs (course sign and directionals) will be in soon.

I'd be interested in knowing what Ray has done to promote disc golf.  
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Post by: CEValkyrie on October 04, 2004, 01:58:33 PM
QuoteA friendly observation:
Seems to me that coures are being installed and DISContinuum has little to do with these projects.  If you want an 18-hole course, get out to park districts and make some presentations. Or, design some alternate tees for existing courses - this is a cheap way of improving the course that Park Districts can understand.  I'd like to see you guys out some effort into creating courses instead of just having tourneys. There is a lot of talent in the club - I urge you to expand your horizons.

A friendly response:

Right now there is very little "real" knowledge of the game in this area. DISContinuum provides a club that organizes leagues, tournaments, & a website that educates and helps promote the sport & how to play it. It also provides this message board to help communicate disc golf topics. The club is only 43 members strong with various members adding what they want to the club. Hopefully with more tournaments come more educated players that help promote the sport locally. Hopefully with this growth park districts will realize this game can be more than just chuckers going out smoking dope, drinking, littering, & vandalizing courses.  

Personally, I have contacted several park districts and others such as camp grounds & forest preserves. At this point i'm in no rush to get a course thrown into the ground. Most park disctricts in this area have land that is inadequate for a disc golf course of my taste. Hopefully some day the stars will line up and a piece of land will open for a championship style course.
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Post by: Jon Brakel on October 04, 2004, 02:46:46 PM
QuoteIs Glencoe in Lake County?
I'm pretty sure based on the directions that it is in Cook county, but I'm not positive.
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Post by: Jon Brakel on October 04, 2004, 02:51:47 PM
Quote
QuoteA friendly observation:
Seems to me that coures are being installed and DISContinuum has little to do with these projects.  If you want an 18-hole course, get out to park districts and make some presentations. Or, design some alternate tees for existing courses - this is a cheap way of improving the course that Park Districts can understand.  I'd like to see you guys out some effort into creating courses instead of just having tourneys. There is a lot of talent in the club - I urge you to expand your horizons.

A friendly response:

Right now there is very little "real" knowledge of the game in this area. DISContinuum provides a club that organizes leagues, tournaments, & a website that educates and helps promote the sport & how to play it. It also provides this message board to help communicate disc golf topics. The club is only 43 members strong with various members adding what they want to the club. Hopefully with more tournaments come more educated players that help promote the sport locally. Hopefully with this growth park districts will realize this game can be more than just chuckers going out smoking dope, drinking, littering, & vandalizing courses.  

Personally, I have contacted several park districts and others such as camp grounds & forest preserves. At this point i'm in no rush to get a course thrown into the ground. Most park disctricts in this area have land that is inadequate for a disc golf course of my taste. Hopefully some day the stars will line up and a piece of land will open for a championship style course.
I have also been doing my part in talking to the local park districts. If any of our members have some good leads, we'd love to help. So far, I only have nibbles.
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Post by: mirth on October 04, 2004, 03:11:21 PM
Glencoe is South of Lake Cook Rd.
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Post by: Dan Michler on October 04, 2004, 03:24:06 PM

As one of the very few people who actually plays the glencoe course (its very peaceful out there) I can assure you it is in cook county.  take the tower rd. exit east to get there.  why is adler 13 holes?

its a great idea to get an 18 hole course!  but how.
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Post by: Jon Brakel on October 04, 2004, 06:20:49 PM
Quotewhy is adler 13 holes?
I have no idea why anyone would count Adler as 13 holes. I think counting baskets is a better way to measure a course anyway. Many, many courses have "alternates" that are just as good if not better than the existing course. Bruce and I sometimes played play Buffalo Grove from all asphalt tees using all the existing baskets from the bicycle path. That was a fun course. If you counted those plus the alternates that the weekly guys there play, then BG is a 36 "hole" course. That's a weird way to count how many holes are in Lake County. I'd count baskets in Lake County if I was so inclined. But since I don't even live in Lake County I'd probably be more inclined to count how many baskets we have in Cook County.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2004, 07:40:06 PM
IMHO baskets are a better yardstick of progress in Lake County, or any county for that matter.
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Post by: Jon Brakel on October 04, 2004, 09:13:03 PM
QuoteIMHO baskets are a better yardstick of progress in Lake County, or any county for that matter.
Motion passed.  :D  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: airspuds on October 05, 2004, 06:00:15 AM
QuoteHopefully some day the stars will line up and a piece of land will open for a championship style course.

MOKENA  

this is the way to do it

27 holes (baskets)

not sure of how many tees  but most holes have alternate tees

3 port a potties ( i think) at least 2  
1by 1
1by 18
1 by 11 long T or 13 basket whichever u prefer

at the T in July  they had a  trailer with drinks and hot dogs and candy
also had the concession stand open for lunch
they sell disc s at the park dis  office

oh yeah 2 practice baskets which will be great once the new parking lot
gets put in

it appears that disc golf in MOKENA has the FULL support of the park dis

its not the # of baskets in the ground that really matters
its the quality of the course

think ft wayne  swinney park   it was 12 spider baskets
i always thought it had a good mix of holes












Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 05, 2004, 06:09:30 AM
Quote
QuoteHopefully some day the stars will line up and a piece of land will open for a championship style course.

MOKENA  

this is the way to do it

27 holes (baskets)

not sure of how many tees  but most holes have alternate tees

3 port a potties ( i think) at least 2  
1by 1
1by 18
1 by 11 long T or 13 basket whichever u prefer

at the T in July  they had a  trailer with drinks and hot dogs and candy
also had the concession stand open for lunch
they sell disc s at the park dis  office

oh yeah 2 practice baskets which will be great once the new parking lot
gets put in

it appears that disc golf in MOKENA has the FULL support of the park dis

its not the # of baskets in the ground that really matters
its the quality of the course

think ft wayne  swinney park   it was 12 spider baskets
i always thought it had a good mix of holes
Mokena is nice. It would still be nice to have a par 4 course in the area. I wonder why they decided to put 27 baskets on that course rather than design a higher par 18 basket course?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: airspuds on October 05, 2004, 06:46:51 AM
i agree  there are a couple of tight holes

and i still sometimes get turned around

but since it is now the closest course to me

im biased

Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: spike on October 05, 2004, 08:05:32 PM
i gotta concur.  mokena has the potential to be an absolute world class 18-hole course.  it is still a good 27-holer, which beats a mediocre 18 or 9 hole course anyday.  but i sorta wince when i think of what some superior course designers could have accomplished with the raw materials and support available at mokena.  please don't misconstrue this as a knock on the course; as i said, it is a good course.  and the hard work and dedication shown there makes it obvious how much those folks love the game.  i'll make the 75 minute drive there as often as i can.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2004, 09:03:23 PM
At some point, in the near future, can we all agree to steer the conversation in this thread back towards the subject? ;)
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: tree on October 05, 2004, 11:10:49 PM
Good call, Mirth :)
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 06, 2004, 05:32:36 PM
This cracked Dan & I up tonight. Across the road from #3 is a practice basket. I have no idea why it is there. I would be like putting a practice basket near hole #9 at Fairfield.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: D on October 06, 2004, 05:46:39 PM
Just noticed that?  :lol:  :P

Whatever, I'm sure we could make up a really cool alternate to that hole or something..
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on October 06, 2004, 05:50:09 PM
thats true.  we should integrate that hole into the course and make it 10 holes.  nobody will practice putting way out there.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2004, 07:20:33 PM
so, in addition to the practice basket by hole 1's pin?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 07, 2004, 05:33:18 AM
There is just 1 practice basket. It may be near #1 basket but I thought it was farther down. Either way, it's in a goofy place.  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 20, 2004, 07:12:35 PM
There have been new tees installed.

The tee for new #1 is on the south side of the road on the gravel path about 15 feet from the road. If you walk on the path south from baslet #7, it is easy to find. It plays to the practic basket on the right side of the path. It is probably 450+ feet. JJust ignore the basket that says #1 on it.  

New #2 is about 50 feet back of the gravel pile. It is a much tighter/straighter shot than the previous tee.

#3 is directly behind the gravel pile.

#4 has been moved to the left of the gravel pile. It is in the grass just off the path.

#5, 6, 7, are directly behind the gravel piles.

#8 & #9 are directly to the left of the gravel piles.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2004, 07:17:05 PM
So by new tees you mean alternates that you've come up with and not tees officially recognized by the park dept, right?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 20, 2004, 07:26:57 PM
QuoteSo by new tees you mean alternates that you've come up with and not tees officially recognized by the park dept, right?
We saw some other players playing them so we decided to give it a try. I like the new tees much better. They are flat & no gravel. New hole #1 is awesome! #2 & 4 play much differently as well. I wonder if they are modifying the course?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on October 20, 2004, 07:32:13 PM
Quote
QuoteSo by new tees you mean alternates that you've come up with and not tees officially recognized by the park dept, right?
We saw some other players playing them so we decided to give it a try. I like the new tees much better. They are flat & no gravel. New hole #1 is awesome! #2 & 4 play much differently as well. I wonder if they are modifying the course?
I gave them a try too and found them to be really cool.  I would suggest that anybody who plays this course should give them a try.  It really makes the course challenging AND solves the problem of dangerous gravel pit tees.  New #1 is a really fun hole.  It will really work your game.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2004, 07:50:33 PM
So, how are these tees marked?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on October 20, 2004, 08:05:17 PM
There were orange flags.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2004, 08:23:43 PM
Interesting. I know Brownie was telling me how he advised Ron to try out a few different configs before making the layout permanent. Maybe thats what they're doing.

I'm excited to get out there now and try it out. A couple of the tees sound similar to the alternates we threw during that night round...
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: D on October 20, 2004, 09:14:53 PM
inteeeeeresting..

sounds like i need to get out there
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on October 22, 2004, 06:38:11 PM
I noticed flags for Hole 6 today too.  they are to the left as your walking from 5's basket to the old 6 tee.  WOW!! that makes that hole alot better too.  With all the new tees, there are no real gimme deuces on the course and there are alot of bogeys out there.  Par is an excellent score on this course.  

I'm really enjoying playing out there more than any other course in this area at this point.  It'll really work your game.  I suggest that all you guys should try these new tees, who knows maybe one day they will become permanent cement tees.  better yet, maybe 18 holes will get put in.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 22, 2004, 09:56:35 PM
Quote...who knows maybe one day they will become permanent cement tees...
I hope not. Those gravel tees are fantastic!!!! Every course should have those!  :D  :P  :D  :P  :D  :P  :D  :P  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: D on October 22, 2004, 10:47:56 PM
Top scores out there thus far?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on October 23, 2004, 02:58:50 PM
Just squeezed in 9 on the new tees.... man, that's quite a change! I didn't get a single deuce, just pars & 4's.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 23, 2004, 04:47:22 PM
QuoteTop scores out there thus far?
The only time I played it I was still nursing my hurt back. I played the regular tees. -1
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 24, 2004, 06:21:11 PM
This will give you an idea of some of the scores on the new tee placments.

Bag Tags
18 Holes

+1 Brett C.
+3 Tom S.
+3 Dan M.
+4 Spike W.
+4 Jose D.
+10 Nick F.
+12 Kenny G.
+?? Donnovan B.

My Score Card
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9(Hole)
3,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4
4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CrookedSuperSoftWizard on October 24, 2004, 07:22:55 PM
2 words

Signs NOW


we were so lost
and climbing up hills are fun
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on October 24, 2004, 07:37:02 PM
QuoteJust squeezed in 9 on the new tees.... man, that's quite a change! I didn't get a single deuce, just pars & 4's.
I hear you Mirth.  There aren't any gimme deuces.  I didn't birdie at all in our 18 hole bag tag match today and felt alright only taking 3 bogey strokes.  Even par or better is an excellent score out there.  This is what we need in this area.  You've got a deuce or die course within 5 miles if you are anywhere north of the city  :lol:  
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on October 24, 2004, 07:38:48 PM
Quote2 words

Signs NOW


we were so lost
and climbing up hills are fun
I'd agree, the course does NOT flow well at all and some direction is needed.  Also, having hole 4 be hole 1 and renumbering accordingly wouldn't be a bad idea.  Then we could park over in that lot and be close to the 1st and last hole.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: CrookedSuperSoftWizard on October 24, 2004, 07:43:04 PM
walking from 3 to 4 is like a block..... we just spent half the time looking for flags on the ground....
but it was a cool course just needs to flow a lot better
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 24, 2004, 08:04:45 PM
QuoteAlso, having hole 4 be hole 1 and renumbering accordingly wouldn't be a bad idea.  Then we could park over in that lot and be close to the 1st and last hole.
You can park there, start on 4 and finish on 3 even if they don't renumber the course. Really, you can. I give you permision!
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Todd. Fanning on November 22, 2004, 04:25:50 PM
My brother and a few friends were out there today and he says that basket 8 and 9 are missing, Does the park district know? were they the ones that took them out?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on November 22, 2004, 06:28:35 PM
They must have pulled them for winter. I was hoping they'd wait until closer to December.

They'll probably be back in late March.
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: Guest on November 29, 2004, 09:34:57 AM
Some teesigns are now installed in concrete.
No concrete teepads yet.
Holes 8 & 9 are out and unplayable as dozens of metal posts are in the ground.
-scooter
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: DougEDawg on December 03, 2004, 02:39:43 PM
I noticed that there are two courses in Gurnee (Warren Township Park and Warren Township Center) that were listed in the PDGA's course directory.  Are these two courses one-in-the-same, or are there plans for another nine?  Can anyone clarify?
Title: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on December 03, 2004, 03:49:31 PM
the same. warren township center is the correct name.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 13, 2006, 09:36:52 AM
If someone gets a chance today can you call Warren Township to find out if the last 2 baskets are going in? It looks like the tee pad to #9 has been filled with grass. I'm locked in the gym area due to a code blue. Listen to AM 1220. It's funny as hell.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2006, 06:26:01 PM
Whiile at Warren today I checked out holes #8 & #9. They have filled in the tee pad areas with dirt & grass has been growing. The have also taken out the anchors & filled them with dirt. It looks like another course in Lake County has been cut to 7 holes ???.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: K-Biscuit on April 17, 2006, 06:31:37 PM
gay
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on April 17, 2006, 07:07:51 PM
thanks alot Warren Township!  Why buy all those baskets and put in all those tees just to immediatley cut the course to 7 holes?  thats hardly worth the trip there to play.  what a worthless use of some pretty good land.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: K-Biscuit on April 17, 2006, 07:25:27 PM
maybe the warren disc golf club will stop playing there and i'll join.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on April 17, 2006, 08:19:15 PM
maybe they're redesigning the last two holes since they lopped the top off the sled hill? don't jump to conclusions too quickly...
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on May 10, 2006, 01:05:05 PM
Called today and they are shooting to get the holes back in by June so expect a July date >:D.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mike Clark on May 10, 2006, 01:24:46 PM
sweet!  O0
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: esau on May 10, 2006, 10:32:32 PM
if im not mistaken, the tee for hole 8 on top of the hill has been set in concrete...

i ventured up there in the first week or so of may, to find what looked like some fresh concrete...
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 06, 2006, 08:17:01 PM
Played Warren today on the way home. Still a 7 hole course.

I did find it funny that in the information I received today that Warren is thinking about expanding it's course. This material is dated 11/04/05.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on August 03, 2006, 08:15:22 PM
There are a few words about Disc Golf in the summer 2006 Warren Township News that i got in the mail yesterday.It states "Disc golf updates in progress.Holes eight and nine of our disc golf course are being revamped to make the course more challenging,something disc golfers have requested." They give no date or timeframe when it will be completed.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on August 03, 2006, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: MR.AVIAR on August 03, 2006, 08:15:22 PM
There are a few words about Disc Golf in the summer 2006 Warren Township News that i got in the mail yesterday.It states "Disc golf updates in progress.Holes eight and nine of our disc golf course are being revamped to make the course more challenging,something disc golfers have requested." They give no date or timeframe when it will be completed.

oookay??  they were already hard holes and fun to play.  just put them back in
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: plasticfiya on December 28, 2006, 11:41:36 PM
every time ive played at this course they have only had 7 baskets. the first time i played and went to look for the 8th tee i thought i got lost and went the wrong way and ended up just going back to the 1st tee. have they put the last 2 baskets in?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on December 29, 2006, 05:11:00 AM
not until next spring, or so they say.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: pickax on April 11, 2007, 11:04:39 AM
Has anyone been here recently? Are all 9 in? There's a group from our church hitting a couple of courses on the way up to Wisconsin next week. We were going to do Libertyville and Gurnee in the am and UW-Parkside in the afternoon. If Gurnee only has 7 holes, I may have to make a different plan for the morning.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 11, 2007, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: krupicka on April 11, 2007, 11:04:39 AM
Has anyone been here recently? Are all 9 in? There's a group from our church hitting a couple of courses on the way up to Wisconsin next week. We were going to do Libertyville and Gurnee in the am and UW-Parkside in the afternoon. If Gurnee only has 7 holes, I may have to make a different plan for the morning.

Gurnee still has 7 holes. They said the be back in the ground no later than June of 2006  ???.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on April 11, 2007, 01:49:59 PM
Maybe play Grayslake instead, not too far out of the way from Adler. Take 137 West to where it ends & joins 83. Take 83 to Center Street, turn left, immediate right on library lane. The course in back in the woods NW of the pool, behind the school.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: discmonkey on April 11, 2007, 07:46:10 PM
Or do Adler and then Bevier and then Parkside.  That's kind of just a straight shot North and may be easier on the travel times.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on May 26, 2007, 01:30:09 PM
Played Warren today, hole 8 is now open, a little shorter than the original but still cool from the top of the hill.  They took out some of the cat tails.  I was told that 9 should be reopened but couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on May 27, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
Tom,  Is the basket in for hole number 9? 
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on May 27, 2007, 09:14:20 PM
I walked around but couldnt find it ???
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on May 28, 2007, 02:43:54 AM
It sounds like someone took or tossed the two baskets that were taken out.  They then took the practice basket and moved it to the hole 8 location. That stinks.  The practice basket made for a couple of nice alternate holes.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on May 29, 2007, 09:27:19 AM
Lake County continues to be a hot bed of disc golf baby! I absolutely love the new and updgraded hole #8 at Warren. There is nothing better than walking to the top of sled hill and throwing a putter. Fantastic thought went in to the basket placment, SWEET :P
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on May 29, 2007, 10:25:30 AM
don't be angry at the sled hill hole just because you took a double circle 6!!!   ;D

its hard to have a solid hot bed without holes like that.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Haven13 on July 05, 2007, 01:42:07 PM
Played this course a lot recently.

Someone in the Park District building told me Hole 9 hasn't been built yet after I looked around for it.

I'm not particularly good and I find this course really easy. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on July 05, 2007, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: Haven13 on July 05, 2007, 01:42:07 PM
Played this course a lot recently.

Someone in the Park District building told me Hole 9 hasn't been built yet after I looked around for it.

I'm not particularly good and I find this course really easy. Anyone else?

What is easy?  two on every hole?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Haven13 on July 05, 2007, 05:21:10 PM
I'm one under par (the posted par, not standard) on five out of eight of the holes. I don't get that many "birdies" on any other course.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on July 05, 2007, 06:06:45 PM
Quote from: Haven13 on July 05, 2007, 05:21:10 PM
I'm one under par (the posted par, not standard) on five out of eight of the holes. I don't get that many "birdies" on any other course.

from the tee pads playing the 8 holes shooting a 19/20 would be a very good score.
shoot 2's  on holes 1, 2, 4, 6, and 8.

shoot 3's on holes 3, 5, and 7.

4 on hole 5 isn't bad.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 05, 2007, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Tom McManus on July 05, 2007, 06:06:45 PM
Quote from: Haven13 on July 05, 2007, 05:21:10 PM
I'm one under par (the posted par, not standard) on five out of eight of the holes. I don't get that many "birdies" on any other course.

from the tee pads playing the 8 holes shooting a 19/20 would be a very good score.
shoot 2's  on holes 1, 2, 4, 6, and 8.

shoot 3's on holes 3, 5, and 7.

4 on hole 5 isn't bad.

Brett vs Tom tonight.
We played hole #1 from the walking path which is impossible to take a 2. Played the long tee on 5 & 7.
--------1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-T
Tom--3-2-3-2-3-4-3-2- (-2)
Brett--3-2-3-3-3-2-3-2- (-3)
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Haven13 on July 06, 2007, 07:17:48 AM
Wow!

Maybe with some practice I can end up being that good. I've only had one shot at duece (and it was on this course) and I botched it putting. Lame.

I've been on Oak Brook, Naperville, Libertyville and this course makes me feel the best about myself. (at least until I read your scores)
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: J.R. on July 06, 2007, 07:26:12 AM
Quote from: Haven13 on July 06, 2007, 07:17:48 AM
Wow!

Maybe with some practice I can end up being that good. I've only had one shot at duece (and it was on this course) and I botched it putting. Lame.

I've been on Oak Brook, Naperville, Libertyville and this course makes me feel the best about myself. (at least until I read your scores)

Brett and Tom and VERY good.  Brett plays in the pro division.  I don't know which Tom is was, but they're both really good as well.  You're not the only one of us who can't keep up with them. :)
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on July 06, 2007, 07:40:28 AM
McManimal usually plays Advanced Masters
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Dan Michler on July 06, 2007, 08:08:54 AM
too bad mcmanus bogeyed the easiest f*&king hole to lose that.  nice work in letting that POS win you old bastard.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Haven13 on July 06, 2007, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: J.R. on July 06, 2007, 07:26:12 AM
Brett and Tom and VERY good.  Brett plays in the pro division.  I don't know which Tom is was, but they're both really good as well.  You're not the only one of us who can't keep up with them. :)

Well, just because these guys have PHD's in Kicking My @$$ doesn't mean I'll stop trying. Thanks for the perspective, though.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Haven13 on July 23, 2007, 03:08:55 PM
Stairs have been put in on the trail up the sled hill. Some kind of netting and hay has been put down on the other side. It looks like they are preparing to put wood chips in and make this part of the course more recognizeable as part of the course. But, it still looks like nothing is happening with #9.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 23, 2007, 06:59:51 PM
I wonder if this course has gotten certified yet?  :D ;D ;) :o
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Haven13 on July 24, 2007, 07:04:21 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 23, 2007, 06:59:51 PM
I wonder if this course has gotten certified yet?  :D ;D ;) :o

Certified? I should be certifiable for playing it as often as I do. But, what's Certified?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 24, 2007, 07:26:27 AM
Quote from: Haven13 on July 24, 2007, 07:04:21 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 23, 2007, 06:59:51 PM
I wonder if this course has gotten certified yet?  :D ;D ;) :o

Certified? I should be certifiable for playing it as often as I do. But, what's Certified?

Who knows?!?!?!? But at one time the park people were saying that they were in the process of getting the course certified.  O0
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Clemson Chris on November 09, 2007, 12:22:47 PM


So, there *are* only 8 holes, still to this day, correct?  My friend and I played Warren Course on Wednesday, and after a twenty minute search, decided there is no #9 , and since my Mobile doesn't pick up the maps on the discontinuum site... i couldn't really research it (though I tried).

I have to say.... I really really liked this course a lot.  The park is pristine, and after I got convinced that all teeboxes would look like #1, and then was pleasantly surprised to find cement the rest of the way.  I LOVE park courses like this one, and this one really did shine.

It' s NOT the easiest course I've seen, and I'd recommend a big map at the first tee box, or a better mapping of the next tee at the end of each hole.  But having gotten unhappy with Bevier, I'm THRILLED to have 8 great holes in Gurnee.  I really do love the course.

//
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Mukey on November 09, 2007, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: Clemson Chris on November 09, 2007, 12:22:47 PM

But having gotten unhappy with Bevier, I'm THRILLED to have 8 great holes in Gurnee.//

???
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on November 09, 2007, 02:33:01 PM
Get out to Bevier and play the 6 holes across the street.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: mirth on November 09, 2007, 02:57:39 PM
And the 3 extra holes in the woods.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: skipache on November 12, 2007, 08:20:59 AM
the extra holes across the street and extra woods holes have greatly improved bevier in my opinion , now its alot more balanced
Title: Hole #9
Post by: dzwiss on May 28, 2008, 04:58:08 PM
There are now nine holes at Warren Township.  Off to the left (west) of the pin for #8 is a new concrete tee and a shot through trees to the ninth pin, which is just before a pond, don't overthrow it ;D.

Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on May 28, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
It is an okay hole except that the tee pad is about 6 foot long. And dzwiss is correct, don't overthrow the hole. I lost a nice beat up orc today.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Steven Jacobs on August 22, 2008, 06:40:57 PM
anyone know course record?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on September 17, 2008, 06:47:28 AM
Went to Warren yesterday and the course is in the process or a redesign. It looks like the objective is to get the holes away from the school, because hole 2 and hole 3 are gone(i'm going to miss hole 3 :'(). New hole one is by alt. 1's tee and plays towards old hole 1's tee, old hole 1 is now hole 2, hole 3 is old 2's tee and plays along the parking lot(it's not a bad hole), hole 4,5,6,7,8 are the same and hole 9 is changed it's a strait short roc shot with the basket on the ridge close to the pond. Overall I think it's a change for the worse >:(
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 17, 2008, 06:53:05 AM
Quote from: Tenny Schimo on September 17, 2008, 06:47:28 AM
Went to Warren yesterday and the course is in the process or a redesign. It looks like the objective is to get the holes away from the school, because hole 2 and hole 3 are gone(i'm going to miss hole 3 :'(). New hole one is by alt. 1's tee and plays towards old hole 1's tee, old hole 1 is now hole 2, hole 3 is old 2's tee and plays along the parking lot(it's not a bad hole), hole 4,5,6,7,8 are the same and hole 9 is changed it's a strait short roc shot with the basket on the ridge close to the pond. Overall I think it's a change for the worse >:(

Typical Lake County disc golf baby!
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 17, 2008, 07:01:04 AM
Since this course went in has it ever NOT been under redesign?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 17, 2008, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 17, 2008, 07:01:04 AM
Since this course went in has it ever NOT been under redesign?

Something has changed every year. It's ridiculous!
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 17, 2008, 07:22:46 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 17, 2008, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 17, 2008, 07:01:04 AM
Since this course went in has it ever NOT been under redesign?

Something has changed every year. It's ridiculous!

I suppose if I had my own course I would be constantly working on it also. The big difference is that I would be constantly working on it to improve it. I get the feeling that every change that Warren Township has made has been a compromise to the design to accommodate some other consideration. Whether it be other park uses, adjacent uses, insurance/liability concerns, whatever it is. It just doesn't seem like they are making any changes to improve the course.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 19, 2008, 05:03:49 PM
Found out today why the changes were made.

Old hole #2 & #3 were across the fence on school ground. Something happened between the school & the township so the school made them move the baskets. #9 was moved because someone was hit in the pavillion near the basket.

They added a hole prior to old hole #1 which is now #1. It's a pretty good hole. You can go thru the tunnel or try the hyzer. Both are challenging shots. The tee pad is lame. It's about 5 feet long.

Old hole #1 is now #2. I has a concrete tee finally.

#3 is a midrange shot. Has a few routes to take. If you play the fence and path OB it's a good hole.

#4 thru 8 is exactly the same.

#9 has a lame short tee like #1. The moved the basket farther to the right and on top of the hill.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Steven Jacobs on September 22, 2008, 02:28:36 PM
I miss the old course :angry:
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: StrikerME02 on September 22, 2008, 04:17:15 PM
I miss this course alot too. It really annoys me that Warren had to take out holes 2 and 3. I loved hole 2 because it was always possible to get an ace there. Hole 3 was enjoyable becuase it was very tough. With the changes to the Warren course I feel that the difficulty has dropped a level and I am dissappointed, but what can you do. It's too bad that the school had a problem with the disc golf course on their property. Maybe someone will care for us disc golfers someday. :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 22, 2008, 05:03:00 PM
Disc golf is not really multi-use area friendly. By the same token neither is tennis. That's why it says "no skate boarding" on the tennis court door. However, disc golf is spread out over the entire park so other activities and people are always encroaching on the disc golf park. Wherever disc golf is in multi-use parks there will be compromises made. The alternative is to get disc golf into parks dedicated to the sport and to get pay to play courses put in.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: jasonc on September 23, 2008, 02:21:08 PM
I went to this course a couple weeks ago with floyd (my dog) and was very disappointed to see the huge "NO DOGS ALLOWED" signs posted along the way thru the parking lot.  When I got home and looked it up on pdga.com, i was very disappointed to see that there is no mention whatsoever of this animal hater rule!!!   :angry:

With all of the recent changes previously mentioned at warren, i'm in no rush to get back out there.  But whomever Colin Glancy :huh: (listed contact @ pdga.com) is should take care of this issue.  Although I have already sent him an e-mail, I have not received a response or seen any updates on the course directory.  It's hard enough to find a decent, usable course around here!!!  Is it really that hard to make those changes?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 23, 2008, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: jasonc on September 23, 2008, 02:21:08 PM
I went to this course a couple weeks ago with floyd (my dog) and was very disappointed to see the huge "NO DOGS ALLOWED" signs posted along the way thru the parking lot.  When I got home and looked it up on pdga.com, i was very disappointed to see that there is no mention whatsoever of this animal hater rule!!!   :angry:

With all of the recent changes previously mentioned at warren, i'm in no rush to get back out there.  But whomever Colin Glancy :huh: (listed contact @ pdga.com) is should take care of this issue.  Although I have already sent him an e-mail, I have not received a response or seen any updates on the course directory.  It's hard enough to find a decent, usable course around here!!!  Is it really that hard to make those changes?

Are you joking? There are a lot of things that aren't listed on the course descriptions. I didn't realize that there were dog friendly indications on those pages. Certainly there's lots of other info missing also. They don't say which parks are smoking and which are not. Note that BG does not allow smoking in their parks which rules out both of them to you smokers out there if you can't wait until the round is over. The PDGA does not list which courses are clothing optional even though I know of at least one that is. Trust me...you do NOT want to be in the group behind me when I mark my disc on THAT course! Somethings you just have to take responsibility in finding out for yourself. As a dog owner I'd think you'd know that not every park is dog friendly and that you should call the PD before planning any outing with your dog to a park you've never been to.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: jasonc on September 23, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
jon, while i appreciate the fact that not every detail for every course is listed at pdga.com, it would not take much effort for the "course contact" to reply to my original inquiry to this issue, or to simply add a note to the course description.  After a few weeks went by without a response from Colin, I figured this would be the next best place to ask for an update.  If you and or Colin would like to decline my request, that's fine with me.  However, i can guarantee you that a simple update to the course directory would be more helpful than your suggestion to call every park district before visiting every course. 

If you have played any area courses besides Waren, then you already know that the "no dogs allowed" rule is not the standard for Chicagoland.  I know this because I have played most of them.  If this is not the "proper" avenue to address this issue, please let me know.  I am certainly new to this discontinuum site and maybe i am just barking up the wrong tree.  While it is certainly not a life or death issue, I believe it would be helpful for others like myself who prefer to bring their dogs along for golf.  While I have only been playing disc golf for about 4 years, this is certainly the first time I have encountered a fellow golfer who was not helpful with a simple inquiry. 
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: tacimala on September 23, 2008, 04:48:45 PM
I think Jon was more so saying, what's good for one person may not be good for the next person. While most people will be cordial with such simple requests, then where does the requesting stop? It's like the good land for the courses around here, if they gave some of it to disc golfers, then the soccer clubs would want a piece too. If they updated the site to tell dog owners to stay out, then they have to alert the nudist colony as well. Obviously I'm stretching it a bit there, but you get my point.

Unfortunately the PDGA system of courses is a bit archaic and the correct contact info may not even be in place for the contact that you emailed.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: jsun3thousand on September 23, 2008, 05:07:10 PM
Anybody can edit the course directory on pdga.com.  It gets filtered and edited before the information is posted. I updated several of the course descriptions- some were just horrible descriptions. The PDGA is pretty responsive when you ask them to change some things. I emailed  Brian Graham about a poorly written article about a tournament in Tulsa. I received a response the next day and the article was rewritten.   

I updated the course description, lets see how long it takes. Jason


" NOTE: Updates may take a week or so to process - The Editor

Thank you for the updated information about this course! Your information has been successfully submitted and will be reviewed, confirmed and posted shortly. We appreciate your contribution to the PDGA Online Disc Golf Course Directory" (pdga.com).
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: pickax on September 23, 2008, 05:53:21 PM
I'll save you the trouble if you go to Mokena. No dogs, no smoking,
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: jsun3thousand on September 23, 2008, 06:03:05 PM
Done. http://pdga.com/course/courses_by_city.php?id=1948
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 23, 2008, 06:22:33 PM
Sorry Jason C, maybe I was too acidic. Your post came off as kind of whiny and pissy. It seems a bit much to warn people of every possible situation that they might come upon on every course. When I owned a dog I did not expect to be able to take him every where that I wanted to go. I often checked ahead of time. If I were still a smoker I'd probably be keeping track of what parks allow smoking. I don't think I would expect the PDGA to warn me what parks I couldn't smoke at. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: jasonc on September 24, 2008, 10:44:52 AM
jsun3thousand,

thanks for the update.  i was not aware that pdga.com allowed anyone to update course info.  i will certainly send my future requests for these updates directly thru their site.  maybe i provided a  little too much info on my first post in regards to this issue.  my main point was that if this was a problem for me, there are at least a handful of others who would also find this info to be useful for future fun on the courses.   -_-   
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Arok on September 24, 2008, 12:39:22 PM
man bummer about 1-3 ...

:-\
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: patti9103 on December 12, 2008, 11:19:56 AM
  I have a chance to go out to Warren tomorrow and was wondering if there is a recent map?   Also the Warren Township website says the course is closed.  How closed is it?   ???  Any info or tips would be great.  Thanks
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on December 14, 2008, 01:34:23 PM
So, was it closed?  My guess is that they may have closed the 8th hole, cause of the sled hill, but I suspect the rest of them are still playable.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on December 14, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
BTW, the new one and revamped three are really pretty nice.  It was a shame to lose 2 and 3, but they did a respectable job of replacing them.  I still love  the course.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: patti9103 on December 14, 2008, 06:04:03 PM
I had to wait until today to get to Warren.  I didn't see any signs saying closed so I played most of it.   I found 1-6, but had to leave before I found the other 3.   I enjoyed the holes through the trees.  Good thing I wore my boots, its pretty slushy since the snow melted.   Can't wait to see the whole course and leaves on the trees.   &lt;_&lt; 
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: StrikerME02 on May 02, 2009, 10:38:06 AM
Went to Warren the other day the course is in pretty bad shape due to all the past rain. It's pretty muddy all over the grass, and Hole 7 is completely under water. The basket is in the water. If you plan on going out to Warren I would recommend you go somewhere else and give it about a week or so with no rain.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on October 10, 2009, 08:34:53 AM
It appears that the township center is getting ready to brutalize the course.  It looks like they are adding two five foot long tees in the vicinity of hole 7.  My guess is that there plan is to shorten hole seven, dump hole 8 and make a super short hole just north of seven, and not a clue with what they are going to do with hole 9.  Kind of makes me sick that they continually tweak the course to make it worse instead of better. 

I am guessing that of all the facilities over there that don't have sanctioned activities, that the disc golf course has the most activity. But it receives less attention and is less of a priority than all the other resources over there.  This morning there were at least 10 people out on the course and all the other features were empty. Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Steven Jacobs on October 10, 2009, 08:53:26 AM
I thought those things were too small to be tees  :-\

Ugh, not again warren, i'm going to go see what's going on next time i am there

Then again though, on the optomistic side, maybe they're adding more alts, but some of those tee ditches were in odd spots to be tees for current baskets, like there is 1 to the left of 9s basket facing the road that goes through the park,  now im just confused.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on November 07, 2009, 01:31:51 PM
I do not think that the new cement slabs have anything to do with the golf course.  Each slab has an I-bolt embedded in it and an 8 inch diameter hole.  Beats me what they are for though.  Maybe they're mounting grills or something.  Or better yet, maybe they are going to set up beer stands for the golfers. ;D
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Steven Jacobs on November 07, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
It's a trash can holder
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on November 11, 2009, 06:53:25 PM
Is that a fact or a guess?  Why there?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: StrikerME02 on November 13, 2009, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: dzwiss on November 11, 2009, 06:53:25 PM
Is that a fact or a guess?  Why there?

Steven is right. It's a fact. I thought they might have something to do with the disc golf course at first, but they are too small for one. Second they have got holes and stuff drilled into them where they can chain garbage cans into.

As to why they're in that sport I have no idea. Obviously the disc golf course wasn't of any concern.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on November 14, 2009, 08:48:47 AM

Steven is right. It's a fact. I thought they might have something to do with the disc golf course at first, but they are too small for one. Second they have got holes and stuff drilled into them where they can chain garbage cans into.

As to why they're in that sport I have no idea. Obviously the disc golf course wasn't of any concern.
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I agree.  BTW, I played yesterday after work and they are doing more work on the new stairs on number 8.  They did some sodding  (not sodomizing) and put up a snow fence along the stairs, apparently to keep people off of the new sod.  I hope folks continue to use the new stairs so that they don't perceive a need for a permanent fence along both sides of the stairs, which was in the initial plans.  I find myself climbing a lot of fences to retrieve OOB discs, and I am not getting any younger :(

Anyway, I still love the course, it's my fave :) 
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Steven Jacobs on November 14, 2009, 03:01:33 PM
Keep it in bounds dz  ;)
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on November 15, 2009, 04:36:23 AM
Alas, if only my disc didn't have a mind of it's own. :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: StrikerME02 on January 05, 2010, 10:27:06 AM
Nothin like sledding down hole #8's hill on your disc golf bag. It worked great. I wouldn't wanna do it to much though because who knows what damage it might do to the bag.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: dzwiss on January 06, 2010, 05:19:55 PM
I love you man, don't forsake Warren  just cause it's winter.  I'm a wus though, got outa town right after Christmas and headed south west.  Played Wildcat in Abilene, TX and Santa Cruz River Park in Tucson, AZ.  Will play Emerald Park in  Mesa, AZ tomorrow.  All in shirt sleeves.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Tom McManus on January 06, 2010, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: dzwiss on January 06, 2010, 05:19:55 PM
I love you man, don't forsake Warren  just cause it's winter.  I'm a wus though, got outa town right after Christmas and headed south west.  Played Wildcat in Abilene, TX and Santa Cruz River Park in Tucson, AZ.  Will play Emerald Park in  Mesa, AZ tomorrow.  All in shirt sleeves.

How about some course reviews?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on February 13, 2012, 10:53:30 AM
I have a meeting with Warren Tonwship about possible improvements. I have a list of things I want to do there. Before I go in does anyone have any creative suggestions they'd like to see there.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: KenGmoney1 on February 13, 2012, 02:12:46 PM
It would be nice if all tee pads were the same size. (hole 9 could be fixed)

Maybe they can patch up the tees where people wrote names and other stuff.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on February 13, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
Quote from: KenGmoney1 on February 13, 2012, 02:12:46 PM
It would be nice if all tee pads were the same size. (hole 9 could be fixed)

Maybe they can patch up the tees where people wrote names and other stuff.

On my list I have extending hole 1 & 9's tees. Cleaning up the tees is a good idea. I'll add that.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on February 27, 2012, 09:04:45 AM
I have a meeting with them tomorrow at 3pm. Some items I'm pushing for.

Extend tee on 1 & 9
2nd set of pins (Orangne Mach 5's w/ # plates)
Extra set of sleeves for a 3rd placement.
Install practice basket and bricks/rocks for putting games.
Long tee on #6
Clean up tee pads to get grafitti off.
Tee signs.
Next Tee signs.
Warning-Disc Golf Signs
Home of Am Champ Sign
Lanscaping
Possibly renumbering starting with #1 on top the hill. Finish with current #7 which would become #9.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on February 28, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
I had a good meeting today with the supervisor. Prior to meeting him I gave him a link to disc golf course review. He realized that most of the negatives were the lack of course signs and the course was a too easy. As usual there are no gurantees that anything is going to happen.

He is checking to find out what happened to the tee signs and the practice basket. He seemed to like the idea of the 2nd set of baskets. The budget year starts on the first so he's going to check into it. I plan on meeting him early this spring and walking the course with him.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: Clonan on March 01, 2012, 02:49:47 PM
That's awesome!  Good job man.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on March 17, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
Tee pads clear at Warren? Or any other area courses?
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: twifiter on April 01, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
As of 3/31 I would say that a majority of the tee pads are clear and ready for play. The exceptions for me were Hole #2 and #7. I played two rounds this week and both were enjoyable but I did end up with a fair amount of mud on my shoes and pants.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 06, 2013, 06:48:47 PM
A bunch of trees have pink circles and tape on them. Others have white circles on them. I have a feeling they are going to be cutting down some trees soon.
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 21, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
I stopped by Gurnee after school on Thursday and #7 had water up to the basket. There is water to the right but it's gone down a bunch. It's dried up nicely out there. It's soft in places but not bad at all.

They have cut down quite a few trees on hole #1. It really doesn't affec the hole much. It opened up the hyzer line a bit but not that much. They cut down all the trees with the pink tape on them. There are quite a few with pink tape still left to be cut down throughout the course. Hopefully they don't cut the trees with the white circles painted on them. If they do the park will be bare!
Title: Re: Warren Township Center
Post by: roman on April 21, 2013, 09:03:31 PM
Usually they use contrasting colors/marks to mark the trees to be cut and trees to be left, so i'm guessing the trees with the white circles will stay.