So when you've got a huge group of spoiled little Libertyville punks throwing into you at Adler, what do you do? I know the same thing happens all the time at Fairfield due to the congestion at these courses. Last night there was some major arguments and almost a fight cuz of a couple groups of these kids who actually did hit a guy. still they keep throwing into you on every hole. i am sick of this and have no clue how to better handle educating them on not throwing until we are done with the hole, other than just yelling at them in a threatening manner.
It really sucks. We were on Hole 4. Our group told the group behind us that we'd let them play thru but there was at least a 4'some on every hole. While we were putting Nasty Nate got hit right in the hip. He handled it pretty well. He yelled at them but did not throw their disc or swear at them. They said nothing as the disc was in flight. On the next hole they were yelling fore while we were putting. What a bunch of smart asses. That almost set things off. At one point i counted 11 groups on the course. Several of those with 5 or more players. This is why I don't enjoy playing Adler much. If you go back in the old messages of Adler Park you can see some negative posts when I first started playing. These same idiots are the one's I formed my opinions.
maybe i wanted to spell etiquette wrong mirth. did you every think of that! :ph34r:
after we had the major confrontation that almost resulted in some blows being thrown, we had to deal with them throwing at us while we were putting on every hole from 1-5. unbelievable. it wasn't that they didn't understand either. they just thought it was pretty funny.
Tough situation. I'd hate to escalate it to a physical situation. I would be more likely to do something passive agressive if something came to mind at the time.
Quotemaybe i wanted to spell etiquette wrong mirth. did you every think of that! :ph34r:
maybe you did, but then you wouldn't have asked if you spelled it correctly! :)
I had a simular situation happen once. After warning the kids that they should wait until I was done with the hole or at least out of their range on a long hole. After that I told the kids throwing at me that if they threw a disc anywhere near me again I was going to keep it. That ended it.
QuoteI had a simular situation happen once. After warning the kids that they should wait until I was done with the hole or at least out of their range on a long hole. After that I told the kids throwing at me that if they threw a disc anywhere near me again I was going to keep it. That ended it.
Thats a good idea... but because I'm more off a loose cannon I would beat the *beep* out of one of them.
*resumes lurking*
throw it back at them
if they throw at you why cant you throw at them
im not one to stir trouble in general
i like to play early in the am to avoid all the bull
general rules state do not throw til group in front has played out the hole
This post has been edited by mirth on May 18 2005, 09:54 AM
im curious DAN what did mirth edit ?
QuoteThis post has been edited by mirth on May 18 2005, 09:54 AM
im curious DAN what did mirth edit ?
he took out the part where i was hitting on his wife
This happened at Crystal Lake a few times last year and at Parkside this year. I warn the group that I will either keep the disc, throw it back at them, or taco the disc. I rifled one over the head of a kid last year and they made sure give us room. Butler taco'd a disc once and that almost lead to a fight.
I would think that if you give them a warning and tell them what will happen you have all the right to act upon those words.
QuoteQuoteThis post has been edited by mirth on May 18 2005, 09:54 AM
im curious DAN what did mirth edit ?
he took out the part where i was hitting on his wife
want the two kids too? :P
Dan misspelled etiquette, then wondered if he did
Stuff like this in ball golf is why Jon's father quit playing municipal courses as soon as he could afford to play the privately owned open to the public courses.
The solution is already there: pay the $10 to play Edgebrook. When Edgebrook is successful you'll see another one pop up nearer to you. I did not see one instance of disrespectful play when we were at Edgebrook. I did not see one shard of glass anywhere on the course.
So long as you are taking it for free, you'll get what you pay for, and it is only going to get worse as the weather gets better.
By the way, it happened repeatedly at the last unsanctioned tournament I played. After warning the group behind us several times, we finally just buried the disc in leaves. The burying was a group thing. We all participated so that if there was any penalty imposed it would apply to the whole Am Master division!
i got my disc buried for the same thing once when i was younger and stupider :lol:
although i will say that i really didnt' think i could throw that far ;)
Lately I've had little tolerance for this, maybe I'm getting impatient in my old age and am sick of bs
If someone throws on me, I drop my stuff, keep a disc in my hand, walk halfway down the fairway and tell them we're still putting, etc..
They do it again, I thrwo more on the next hole and wait for them to get to the tee and explain to them how the game works, and that they're ignorant
And it hasn't gotten to anywhere past there, but if it does... maybe I'll let them play through and throw on them?? No idea.. Haven't thought that deep into it
diron u need to go to bed at a decent time :D
Diron
Ever seen a martial arts movie? Get those special minis with the razer edges. Yes Grasshopper, they will learn soon. Don't bother the master while he is putting. :P
QuoteGet those special minis with the razer edges.
Oh yes, I remember those. I left a number of holes in our old shed with those.
QuoteThe solution is already there: pay the $10 to play Edgebrook. When Edgebrook is successful you'll see another one pop up nearer to you. I did not see one instance of disrespectful play when we were at Edgebrook. I did not see one shard of glass anywhere on the course.
On the opening day there was a guy playing by himself, who sucked at ball golf, act like an ass. He took a run at the two carts in our group with his after a bad drive. I think that this is an isolated event. All of the other people out there seemed cool.
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On the opening day there was a guy playing by himself, who sucked at ball golf, act like an ass. He took a run at the two carts in our group with his after a bad drive.
I could out-drive that guy at ball golf. And I've never played ball golf. B)
Maybe he was upset because he could see we were all out-driving him with discs. :P
I too had a ball golfer hit a ball at us while we were playing a hole at Edgebrook. While we were pulling up to our drives we hear a "fore" from behind us....He proceeded to play right through us. We just did the same to him, as he was approaching he ball we were still shooting down the fairway, we yelled "fore", and on went the round. Most of the other players were cool.
I was a little upset, but we didnt exchange words, besides fore, no big deal really. Just wanted to point out that it doesnt matter where you play, you will run into stupid people everywhere.
That is so true Joe. Besides being idiots every where, at Edgebrook most of the ball golfers still don't know what we're doing. The starter out there is doing a pretty good job of educating the ball golfers that are starting behind the disc golfers...but idiots are still idiots no matter what the game is.
I've had the flu since Monday, Dan
So you need to shut up! :D
QuoteDiron
Ever seen a martial arts movie? Get those special minis with the razer edges. Yes Grasshopper, they will learn soon. Don't bother the master while he is putting. :P
throwing stars
i have two, and keep them at home for a reason :P
wonder if i could use them as markers..... <_<
Keep them at home. If they are legal to possess in Illinois it is still a felony to carry them around. In Michigan they are illegal to possess without a license. I think. If you are bringing them to Michigan I'll look it up! :lol:
Legal to possess but illegal to carry?
Hmm...
They're just minis officer brakel :D
Assholes are everywhere unfortunately, it's just a fact of life. I learned this while playing ball golf a lot. And mind you, I was a decent ball golfer - low 80's upper 70s. It seemed though, at least once a week, I'd run into a group you just couldn't play fast enough for, weather or not you were waiting for a group to leave the green they would hit into you. No amount of explanation every helped the situation. So, I thought of ways to make me happy when I encountered these boobs.
Usually, my first course of action was to park a wheel of the cart on their ball. This usually left it nice and buried. If they didn't get the hint from that, I would pull out a nice long club and smack their ball as far as I could to the left or right of the fairway - usually aiming for some wooded area or water. If that didn't work, I'd let them play through and hit into them, while verbally abusing their style of play. I only hit a ball back at a guy once, because the moron hit me. It was funny though because he saw what I was doing and got into his cart and started driving the other way.
I'm not sure I would do the let play through and throw into them for disc golf though. I always carried found balls with me, but, I don't carry any discs I'd want some asshole to steal from me. I haven't encountered the problem yet with disc golf. I honestly have yet to meet a jerk on a disc course. If I did though, I'm sure I could come up with something to ease my mind. The key is to do something that makes you happy. Don't worry so much about changing their attitude as much as doing something to keep your attitude good.
On the ball golf course I would just call the club house. I know it's a little bit of a weanie way out, but I'd rather they handle it than I get into it.
No, its not the weanie way out. Notwithstanding the bold talk of throwing stars etc, we live in a weird world where road, or course, rage, can lead to who knows what. You never know what's in their bag. It may be more than discs or clubs or anything you are prepared to deal with. If they are really such assholes, who knows where their limits might be. In general, Clonefan is right. Disc Golfers may tend to be oblivous but are rarely antisocial. I ran into plenty of that in a past life as a ball golfer.
QuoteOn the ball golf course I would just call the club house. I know it's a little bit of a weanie way out, but I'd rather they handle it than I get into it.
No, it's not! It's just that my ball golf days were back before mobile phones were such common place. So, if you were out around 6 or 7 it just wasn't feasable to get ahold of the clubhouse. Actually, at that time I don't think I could have even fit a cell phone in my bag.
Reading what Chainmeister said though really does make sense. I know of people who got shot for less than hitting a golf ball at someone.
To be honest, this discussion is one of the main reasons I don't play a lot of ball golf anymore. There sure were a lot of uptight people out there doing something that was supposed to be fun.
urine solves many problems be it discs or golf balls.
u must be a moises alou fan :lol:
pee for everyone!
Well things finally blew up tonight at Adler. More chuckers throwing on top of league players. Chucker almost hits league player. League player gets pissed and says something. Chucker says what are you going to do. League player punches him in the face.
what a fun night of golf at adler leagues <_<
not a fun league in my opinion unless you enjoy playing with a 40 year old child in your group and other actual children throwing down your backside every hole. i win 46 bucks and still didn't really have fun.
who said disc golf isnt a physical sport ?
anyone stupid enough to piss off rattler deserves what they get
So how's "The Chucker's" face/"Rattler's" fist?
So what is the best way to handle a situation where a player is constantly telling others in the group after they putt that their feet were setup past their mark? You know for a fact that you are setup legally and so are the other accused players. In fact it isn't even close because he's gotten in your head and now your setup at least 6 inches behind your mark. Obviously this can really get annoying when it happens several times throughout a round.
What did I do? well at the end of the round i told him what he could do to himself :lol:
Telling him [insert your favorite expletive here] doesn't really help with the way he is getting into your head. If the consensus is that he is wrong, you might get another member of the group to keep an eye on your feet. Tell the orginal dope to shut the [insert another tasty expletive] right there and then so it does not continue.
I think calling a penalty that is clearly not a penalty is a courtesy violation. Warning the first time, one throw penalty thereafter. If it were to continue much beyond that it could be considered cheating and then a DQ from the TD could result.
DO NOT TALK WHILE A PLAYER IS THROWING.
I don't normally care if there is a constant, quiet chatter but that's me. The worst is when it's completely quiet, you are all zoned in on your target, you are just about at the point of releasing the disc and then..."BLAH, BLAH BLAH" your eyes go fuzzy, your memory muscles get amnesia and you try to stop the throw but it's too late.
You wouldn't think I would have to mention this but at the last tournament it happened again.
<_<
My mental problem is whispering. If two guys are talking at a regular level I can just drown it out with all the other back ground noices. But if they are whispering, it really gets to me and I'll just wait on the tee pad until they are done.
QuoteDO NOT TALK WHILE A PLAYER IS THROWING.
I don't normally care if there is a constant, quiet chatter but that's me. The worst is when it's completely quiet, you are all zoned in on your target, you are just about at the point of releasing the disc and then..."BLAH, BLAH BLAH" your eyes go fuzzy, your memory muscles get amnesia and you try to stop the throw but it's too late.
You wouldn't think I would have to mention this but at the last tournament it happened again.
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dude, again I apologize for that incident at IOS 2....
Ha! :D
I was talking about IOS #3. It was the players first tournament so I did cut him a little slack. I only gave him "the glare" <_<
QuoteI think calling a penalty that is clearly not a penalty is a courtesy violation. Warning the first time, one throw penalty thereafter. If it were to continue much beyond that it could be considered cheating and then a DQ from the TD could result.
i think my plan for next time is to just draw a line of scrimmage before the shot so we don't have to argue over it.
QuoteQuoteI think calling a penalty that is clearly not a penalty is a courtesy violation. Warning the first time, one throw penalty thereafter. If it were to continue much beyond that it could be considered cheating and then a DQ from the TD could result.
i think my plan for next time is to just draw a line of scrimmage before the shot so we don't have to argue over it.
Get yourself a big nail and one of those carpenters chalk-lines. You could snap a nice crisp blue line before every shot. And it's environmentally friendly!
Quotethink calling a penalty that is clearly not a penalty is a courtesy violation. Warning the first time, one throw penalty thereafter. If it were to continue much beyond that it could be considered cheating and then a DQ from the TD could result.
i concur
but what do i know
QuoteHa! :D
I was talking about IOS #3. It was the players first tournament so I did cut him a little slack. I only gave him "the glare" <_<
well I hope it wasnt me... I dont remember getting "the glare" at any time, though. :D
QuoteQuoteHa! :D
I was talking about IOS #3. It was the players first tournament so I did cut him a little slack. I only gave him "the glare" <_<
well I hope it wasnt me... I dont remember getting "the glare" at any time, though. :D
Nope, wasn't you, but you did look at me after it happened. I thought you looked at me because of that.
Thanks for making me relive the experience :angry: :lol:
QuoteNope, wasn't you, but you did look at me after it happened. I thought you looked at me because of that.
probably. There was a lot of conversation in that group, especially towards the end of the round. I wonder if that is more of an issue at the Rec level because there are more inexperienced players. The second round I played at crystal lake was much more serious and quiet but I'm sure thats because we were the leading card and all thought we had a chance to win it. All 5 of us ended up shooting 57 or 58 anyways. It was kinda weird when we started totalling scores and everyone was the same, because nobody had really been keeping track.
Ball golfers do the same things here in San Diego. First time my friends and I played Mission Trails we had an older couple 65+ hit into us at least twice. One time it seemed they purposefully aimed away from the fairway and at us, but I hope it was just that they were old. I look forward to playing Edgewood, how far is it from Rockford where I am moving to next summer?
From Edgebrook to Rockford it is one mile of surface streets and 78 miles of interstate toll road. With the I-pass [electronic toll paying system] you can probably make that run in an hour and 15 minutes at non-peak driving hours.