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Disc Golf Related => PDGA Discussion => Topic started by: Jon Brakel on September 01, 2005, 08:55:46 PM

Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 01, 2005, 08:55:46 PM
I am looking for several volunteers across Illinois to evaluate courses for the new PDGA course evaluation program. I am also looking for someone to help me coordinate these efforts so that we can get some courses evaluated before the IOS winds down.

I'd like to see evaluators who have played somewhere in the range of 100 courses or more and in various states. I'd like the coordinator to be someone with a lot of energy who has too much time on their hands! All volunteers must be PDGA members in good standing for this project.

If you'd like to volunteer please e-mail me thru the message board. Please do NOT PM me, my PM fills up too quickly! Please include your name and PDGA number in your e-mail along with what you'd be interested in doing.

If you'd like to read about this project, please go to the following link:

http://www.pdga.com/course/eval/index.php (http://www.pdga.com/course/eval/index.php)

Thanks for your consideration!
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 02, 2005, 06:08:11 AM
I wouldn't mind doing a couple of courses. I'll do Fairfield & Bevier this winter when there is nothing to do.  
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Dan Michler on September 02, 2005, 06:50:55 AM
i would be willing to do some evaluating.  i could do sinnissippi and maybe Aurora.
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 05, 2005, 08:55:23 AM
QuoteI'd like to see evaluators who have played somewhere in the range of 100 courses or more and in various states.
Don't let that number scare you off. That's just what I'd "like" in a course evaluator. That doesn't mean that I will get it.  ;)

I tried to figure out how many courses I have played last night and fell asleep around 55 or so...it was kind of like counting sheep!

The more important item is that you have played in several states. Just knowing Illinois courses will not give you a full appreciation of everything that disc golf has to offer currently.
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: spike on September 06, 2005, 06:32:43 AM
jon,

count me in.  i'm at 414 courses played, and should reach the magical 420 number by the autumnal equinox.  i'll e-mail you.
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: airspuds on September 06, 2005, 06:58:28 AM
i have played courses in various states (not well)

minn, ky, michigan, ohio, missouri, indiana, wisconsin

jon - i would be willing to do the south of chicago courses and the joliet corridor courses and i will enlist the help of my brother "world famous" if necessary





Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Mike S on September 06, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
I have probably played about 50 courses in IL, WI and KY.  Not much but if you need help I would be more than willing.
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2005, 12:58:41 PM
The first Illinois course evaluation has been posted. I did Willow Stream in Buffalo Grove for a warm up. High marks for tee pads!  :D

http://www.pdga.com/course/eval/ (http://www.pdga.com/course/eval/)
Title: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Younk on November 04, 2005, 03:00:03 PM
That's a sweet addition to PDGA.COM and good submission Jon.

Is there a field for "fees"  I know some courses cost $ to play and I looked for it but didn't see it?

Is there some kind of requirement for who can submit these evaluations besides in good standing with the PDGA??

Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: smyith on August 23, 2006, 01:26:12 PM
any plans on resuming the evaluation of illinois courses?

if you need help i'd be willing to do whatever is needed, i haven't played even close to 100 courses though and have only played in MI, IL, WI, IA, NE
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Jon Brakel on August 23, 2006, 08:33:35 PM
Everyone that has told me that they would evaluate courses this year has not done so yet. I don't find that the evaluation program has much merit so I haven't been pushing. The guy who runs the program for the PDGA is a little bit full of himself...maybe one has to be to take on such a project.
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: the_lung on August 30, 2006, 07:15:55 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on August 23, 2006, 08:33:35 PM
The guy who runs the program for the PDGA is a little bit full of himself..

That's the understatement of the decade... ;D
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Jon Brakel on August 30, 2006, 08:45:41 PM
Quote from: the_lung on August 30, 2006, 07:15:55 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on August 23, 2006, 08:33:35 PM
The guy who runs the program for the PDGA is a little bit full of himself..

That's the understatement of the decade... ;D

  ;D That's me...Mr. Understatement!  ;D
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: smyith on September 01, 2006, 05:43:43 PM
I would like to get the following courses added to the PDGA Course Evaluation
System http://www.pdga.com/course/eval/index.php. If you are a local of one of these
courses, please contact me. These are some of the best 18 hole courses in Illinois that I
have played. If you feel there is a course that deserves to be on this list please notify me.
Everwood Park-Macomb, IL
The Oaks-Mokena, IL
Northwood Park-Morton, IL
McNaughton Park-Pekin, IL
Bradley Park-Peoria, IL
Longview Park-Rock Island, IL
Anna Page Park-Rockford, IL
Lincoln Park-Springfield, IL
Sinnissippi Park-Sterling, IL

how would this work? is there a form or something?
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: the_lung on September 05, 2006, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: smyith on September 01, 2006, 05:43:43 PM
how would this work? is there a form or something?

How it works is that you first contact the czar of the program. Then you go through a great number of hurdles to get a course into the system. You will be amazed at just how agonizing this process is. After you've evaluated a course, the czar will look at your evaluation, and without having seen the course himself, use his own intuition to tell you that the data is too high and ask you to do it again.

I'm not kidding. I've heard from numerous sources from different places around the country that this is how it has worked.   :protest:
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 06, 2006, 06:09:26 PM
I took a look at the ratings for Michigan courses.  Clearly the system is not working. 
Title: Re: PDGA Course Evaluation Program
Post by: smyith on September 06, 2006, 07:31:37 PM
they definitly don't look right to me.just look at carrol marty in ames, ia and granite ridge/woodland greens in wisco. every hole at carrol marty is dueceable by the AVG person, long and short pins. i don't think the people rating have read or understand the design quality guide http://www.pdga.com/course/eval/OHDQPictureGuide.pdf .