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Disc Golf Related => Courses => Topic started by: Clonefan94 on September 19, 2005, 10:00:36 AM

Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: Clonefan94 on September 19, 2005, 10:00:36 AM
I heard a rumor, so, I emailed the park district in Bartlett. This was their response.

QuoteYes, we have installed all the footings and sleeves for the holes and
will be installing the baskets and tee signs by Wednesday this week.  We
are having a grand opening this Thursday, 9/22 at 6 p.m.  Please join us
if you can. 
The course is located at Sunrise Park, 1/2 mile east of Rt. 59 on the
corner of Struckman Blvd. and Appletree Ln.  The course is 18 holes,
6220' in total hole length, has water, woods, open areas, and good
topography.  The course was designed in-house using staff from another
park district who are involved in the sport and Tom Christiansen, a disc
golf pro who lives in Bartlett. 

This course is open 8 a.m. to dusk daily and may be used at no charge.
It will be closed during High School x-country meets, the first being
this Saturday, 9/24.

Please try the course and let me know what you think.

Jon F. Carlson

Superintendent of Parks and Planning
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 19, 2005, 10:31:07 AM
Holy cow! 18 holes. That is amazing. Not another Chicago 9-holer.  
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Post by: JohnBrady on September 19, 2005, 11:22:22 AM
a grand opening at 6:pm? seems like it may be tough to make it through by dusk...but I will try to make it.
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Post by: Clonefan94 on September 19, 2005, 11:45:43 AM
Took a drive out there at lunch today. It's hard to get a feel for the true course layout. They have the locking collars in the ground but, no tea pads or indications of teas yet. Seems for the most part it's going to be long and pretty wide open. Water may come into play on a couple of holes and you play through a wooded area on a couple of holes. It doesn't look like the park is used for much at all. It would be nice if they started planting trees also. Right now it looks a lot like holes 6,7, and 8 at streamwood without the reeds.
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Post by: El Mexicano on September 19, 2005, 11:56:10 AM
Awesome, just down the road from home. Gonna go check it out after work. Will try to be there on thursday. There will be 3 courses within a few miles of each other once the course in Streamwood goes into the ground.
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Post by: El Mexicano on September 19, 2005, 11:57:40 AM
It seems that courses are only heard about as rumors. I wonder why course plans are never posted or announced. They would get alot more help from locals if they did.
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Post by: El Mexicano on September 20, 2005, 07:13:52 PM
Just drove by the course tonight. Innova Discatchers are in the ground!!!! I will definately be there on Thursday. Maybe I'll see you guys there. I was tempted to pull out my glow discs.  
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Post by: CEValkyrie on September 20, 2005, 07:49:32 PM
Awesome! I need to check it out.  
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Post by: Dan Michler on September 22, 2005, 06:12:56 AM
has anybody played this course yet?
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: Clonefan94 on September 22, 2005, 08:08:30 AM
Official grand opening is tonight at 6pm. I won't be able to make it because my Bball league starts at 7pm. I did walk the course the other day. I was there before the tee signs were in. I saw where the baskets were, but without knowing where the tees are going to be, it's hard to tell what the course will really be like.

It's a huge park. They have a lot of room so I imagine the course will be pretty big. It's very lacking in the tree department, so, it may just be long and not very difficult from there. Most of the course is very reminiscent of holes 6,7,8 and 15 at Shady Oaks in Streamwood. Very open terrain.

The thing that I see is if they got some money in the budget for trees. This could be a great course. They could place trees at will to really make this a challenging course.

Those were my observations. Without knowing the actual layout it's tough to really make a call.

Right now all I can say is at least it's not another 9 holer. We'll see what else after I play it this weekend.
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Post by: Dan Michler on September 22, 2005, 08:14:57 AM
I think I'll let you know tomorrow if its decent or not.
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Post by: El Mexicano on September 22, 2005, 08:39:38 AM
It is a much nicer looking Park than Streamwood though.
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: Clonefan94 on September 22, 2005, 09:10:55 AM
QuoteIt is a much nicer looking Park than Streamwood though.
That's very true. I guess I should have said that. It doesn't have the reeds at all. The look is more like Madison Meadows in Lombard without as many trees.
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: Chainmeister on September 23, 2005, 08:44:55 AM
I hope to get there sometime Monday.  I will be in Geneva early.  I was going to try the new St. Charles course but 18 trumps 9 and I will check out this course on the way home.
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Post by: CEValkyrie on September 23, 2005, 06:37:05 PM
I was sooooooooo disappointed today after we played this course. There are about 6 good holes on this course but the rest is just plain boring. It's much more wide open & flat than Fairfield. I think Streamwood is a much better course. I also haTe all the walk back holes on this course. There was no need for them.
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Post by: Dan Michler on September 23, 2005, 06:41:47 PM
Bartlett is a pretty long 18 holer.  holes 2-9 were not too bad and offered some challenge in my opinion.  The rest of the holes u throw back and forth across an open field.  overall the course is not very fun to play in my opinion.  if ur that close to shady oaks, just go to shady oaks.
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Post by: Clonefan94 on September 25, 2005, 02:41:59 PM
I too was hoping for more. One somewhat promising thing I heard was they are hoping to start planting more trees out there to somewhat break up the open holes. I hope that is the case. Seems somewhat of a case of planting a course somewhere just to plant one. Without a lot of thought going into what would actually make a challenging course.
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Post by: JohnBrady on September 26, 2005, 08:31:00 AM
I played this course yesterday - it started to rain pretty hard when I was at the 10th hole and I just didn't feel like finishing.  These 18 baskets could have been put to much better use.
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Post by: El Mexicano on September 26, 2005, 10:06:27 AM
There are apparently 50 trees included in the budget for this course. They will be placed soon enough, from what I was told. They will no be just sapplings (thank GOD), but a few years old. This will hopefully break up the openess of the back nine.
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Post by: CEValkyrie on September 26, 2005, 06:41:34 PM
Trees will definitely help.

It just frustrates me with the lthe mentality & design of courses in the suburbs of Chicago.  The walk backs like after hole 1. 7, & hole 9 are irratating. With that much room in the park there is no reason the course should not flow nicely. It is also frustrating that there are conflicts such as #1's basket placed right in the righty hyzer zone from #18. 4's basket is also in the perfect blasting zone from #5.  
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Post by: Chainmeister on September 27, 2005, 06:30:32 AM
Since the tres are not yet planted, changes can still be made.  maybe  e can find a friendly ear to bend. given that they were willing to spend the $ to put in the DISCatchers, this seems likely. Baskets can be easily moved.  I never got there yesterday but will try today.
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Post by: Clonefan94 on September 27, 2005, 07:47:48 AM
I guess I don't understand the "behind closed doors" attitude that a lot of PDs take when they go to put in a course. Maybe it's the clubs fault for not letting people know we are available to help in many ways. Supposedly there is a pro in Bartlett who helped design the course. Seems to me a pro would want something better. Who knows though, maybe they designed for the masses. Two guys I work with here, love it. But, they tend to like courses where it's tough to get into trouble. Personally I think you can design for both the seasoned pro and the guy with one disc who plays the game 4 times a year. It just takes a little more thought than "oh, slap the basket anywhere around here." Oh well, I'm just frustrated because we finally get an 18 holer and it's a bit of a let down. It's better than 9, but, I just get the feeling it could have been a lot better.
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Post by: El Mexicano on September 27, 2005, 09:06:15 AM
I totally agree. The object of the game is course management. Knowing how to avoid trouble is what makes this game so addicting. Park districts should know to contact the PDGA for help. I am sure they contact the right folks when it comes to regular Golf.
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: El Mexicano on September 29, 2005, 01:55:04 PM
Is anyone going to update the PDGA course directory for Illinois? Bartlett hasn't been added yet. Just wondering. :D  
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 29, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
QuoteIs anyone going to update the PDGA course directory for Illinois? Bartlett hasn't been added yet. Just wondering. :D
I can add it. Someone may want to add more specifics later.
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Post by: Chris on October 03, 2005, 07:13:18 AM
I played this course yesterday. Definetly right about the walkbacks. With that much spce, the course should flow like a walk in the park. Nice that they actually used the pond a bit, but I wish the basket for #7 was closer to the water. Shooting over on 8 & 9 was fun, but not really a chance to get wet unless you loose your footing. I think I skipped a few in the "back" that just criss-crossed in the field. Finally a new IL 18, but it was a letdown. <_<  
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Post by: El Mexicano on October 03, 2005, 08:01:44 AM
I played the course on Saturday. It starts off pretty well. I enjoyed the elevated shot on 5 and the huge anhyzer on 6. Holes 8 and 9 are over water, but very short. 15 and 16 were ok as well.  
Title: New Course in Bartlett
Post by: El Mexicano on October 03, 2005, 08:30:39 AM
I played the course on Saturday. It starts off pretty well. I enjoyed the elevated shot on 5 and the huge anhyzer on 6. Holes 8 and 9 are over water, but very short. 15 and 16 were ok as well.  
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Post by: El Mexicano on October 03, 2005, 08:31:00 AM
DOH!
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Post by: pickax on October 06, 2005, 09:27:32 AM
Tried it out Tuesday at lunch. There is plenty of room for the gallery. The grass was mowed nicely. A great place to just reach back and really let go of the disc. There's only four or five holes where you might hit a tree, so I guess it would be good testing grounds for cheap plastic. On the whole, I'll skip it until trees have been added.

The only thing good about the course is that it gave me an excuse to try out the golf cart that I modded up for disc golf. Note to self: lock washers are a good thing.
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Post by: El Mexicano on October 07, 2005, 06:14:09 AM
Played best shot with Tom Christiansen last night. Their league will be on Thursdays. We started at 4:45pm, but had to skip a couple of holes to be able to finish the round before sunset. It got gusty out on the open holes. He definately confirmed the 50 tree rumor. Tom said he is working on getting areal photos to start drafting some tree placements. Now that the course is in it will be easier to start the tweeking process.
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Post by: smyith on September 01, 2006, 05:20:51 PM
went out and played it for the first time today. it does look like there is alot of young trees out there. it was a nice course. had some good holes, basically 2-7 and 15. i think for the land they had available they did a good job. i think they should change some holes and have more around the lake, the lake has a good shape to it to make it a good one to make some tough holes. the wind is a bitch out there too, my discs were going up and down in the air like crazy. i think farfield is a good comparison excluding 8, 14-17 and not as hilly.
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Post by: stpitner on September 05, 2006, 10:38:05 AM
Quote from: smyith on September 01, 2006, 05:20:51 PM
went out and played it for the first time today. it does look like there is alot of young trees out there. it was a nice course. had some good holes, basically 2-7 and 15. i think for the land they had available they did a good job. i think they should change some holes and have more around the lake, the lake has a good shape to it to make it a good one to make some tough holes. the wind is a bitch out there too, my discs were going up and down in the air like crazy. i think farfield is a good comparison excluding 8, 14-17 and not as hilly.

Maybe there were trying to avoid using the entire pond so that people that go to fish are not disturbed.  There was about 5 people out fishing 10 days ago when I last played.

It's going to be many years before those trees take full affect.  They are maybe 3 or 4-year old trees (maybe older), but right now they are nothing to even really worry about as you play out the hole.  I'm glad that they are there, and hopefully I'll still be enjoying the game by the time the trees fill out and present a nice obstacle.  At least with all of the trees that were added, you get the feeling that the PD is willing to let the course stay for a very long time.

Just wish I could trade those baskets with a course that is great now but has lousy baskets.  Then when Bartlett turns into a really nice course move the DISCatchers back lol.  Fantastic baskets.
Title: Re: New Course in Bartlett - GREAT COURSE WOULD GO BACK!
Post by: Daniel_K on August 27, 2007, 07:53:20 PM
Just would like to comment on how nice this course is! I made the trip up and met some good people..they suggested streamwood. i will try to visit that one also, although i hear it is tough.
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Post by: DiscCrazy on July 29, 2008, 02:48:25 PM
Does anyone know if there is a course map for Bartlett?
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Post by: skipache on July 29, 2008, 07:21:10 PM
its pretty straight forward...