I like Fairfield right now but man there is huge potential to make it a great course. Currently it has great variety of long, short, wooded, wide open, blind, & slight elevation shots. The wind can play a huge factor as well. You better bring a big arm for 9 holes 300+ feet. The biggest negative I have are the tee areas. I've seen some ravines that aren't that deep. With as much play that Fairfield gets, I can't believe they don't have cement tees. Fairfield has a ton of area. You could really alter several holes & put in 2 sets of cement tees to make it a top notch course. Another negative is all the trash laying around. That comes down to being a responsible disc golfer.
I agree that the dirt pits - er, tees :) - do suck, especially the faded-paint hole markers.
To make matters worse, they changed the course around last summer and all we had to go by for tee placements were little blaze orange flags like the ones the gas/electric company uses.
Cement tees would definately be a needed improvement to the course, not to mention garbage cans, signposts, etc.
Hmm.... this is an interesting concept. So, your thoughts are to make Fairfield the second 'home' course for Discontinuum? I kinda like the idea of being able to take an existing course that has potential to be much better and make it that better course. I can think of a bunch of things we could do out there, can't you? Other than the obvious teepads/signage, what about adding some vegetation to the huge wide open that comprises over half the course?
I think there is a ton of stuff that could be done by us at little to no expense to the parks... It'd be nice if they would spring for items such as 'crete pads & teesigns, but all in due time... all in due time.
Interesting that on www.rlapd.org - the Round Lake Area Park Department's website - the only mention of disc golf is in the park department's history, and that is buried in a very general sentance about what kinds of ammenities are offered at the parks... 'even disc golf!'
I had to use the site's Search feature to find it.
I sent Mr. Alexoff an email letting him know that I am a Discontinuum member and that I look forward to the possbility that the park dept. will enter a relationship with the club concerning the continued maintenance and improvement of the course.
Hope they do. That would be phat.
HAYELL YEEUH!!!!!
Seriously though, you can count on me to donate some time to the improvement of this course. I certainly would be willing to assist in doing brush trimming or weed whacking (have weed whacker, will travel! :)) or trash cleanup.... you name it, I'll help! Just give me a day/time and I'll be there.
I had the same idea about leagues... Why not rotate around to some area courses? Don't know about the collective 'you' but I sure enjoyed the periodic best shot up at Parkside last fall. Why did we discontinue that anyhow?
But I digress from the topic here....
I unfortunately will not be able to attend the cleanup day @ Fairfield. :(
I sincerely do want to, however I have family things that were already planned for that day and were unknown to me at the time.
I'll try to get out there sometime this saturday or the weekend after this coming one & play a round with garbage bag in hand.
As far as #7 being pulled out of the ground.... Wow, that's impressive that someone was able to get the pin and cement pulled up. It must've been loose or someone went at it with a shovel. Suggestions on what to do if the parks dept. doesn't feel like getting out to re-bury it properly?
My suggestion is to go out and do it ourselves. a couple shovels, some jugs of water, and the pin should be good as new.
Moreso than hoping they picked the basket up is that I hope they put it back in! It sucks enough already that an 18 hole course has been turned into a 17, but to go from that to 16? Its almost like they want to pull it and are doing it one hole/week.
Okay, okay.... it really hasn't been at the rate of one per week, but still.... I hope they put the pin back in, or give it to us and we'll do it.
The course directory has to be wrong... Wasn't the course established around 92 by the "old" adler crowd? I thought I remember hearing that recently, but its not in this thread.
Jim, I think I may have heard this from you...
Yay! Its 18 holes again!!!
Holy crap was it busy out tonite! I saw singles thru a sevensome while out this evening.
Brett & Jon & everyone else thats been doing work out there - it looks sweet! That rough is a little thick in spots but thats a story better left to a different board...
Brett, if you want to, myself and whomever can join you for a face-to-face with Round Lake guy. I'm going to redo the club page on the website to update our "resume". When you look at a list of things, you (he) can see reall accomplishments!
Good work!
I think helping to beautify Fairfield can be nothing but good. Since our name implies that we cover Northeastern Illinois, working on courses other than Bevier seems natural. That was my orignal intent. Sure, Bevier will probably remain my personal most-frequently played course because it is so close to my house, but I'd love to travel 30 minutes to Fairfield especially if it becomes as good as we hope it can.
My question is: How many members are willing to devote some time and sweat into Fairfield or another course? We will need definite committment. It will take more than one afternoon of work if we upgrade or install a course. I am willing to bust my ass to get our area up to speed (in terms of courses). I know a few others are as passionate about it and will come through. Let me hear a big HELL YEAH!
BTW, I am so STOKED about simply having these discussions. We have done a lot of work in the past year and a half. Now we're digging deeper.
Regardless of what happens with RL or Gurnee, I am truly happy to have friends such as yourselves pushing our club along.
We didn't really discontinue it, those away dates where just kinda thrown in to break up the regularity.
BTW, thanks for the scans! They'll be up by Friday.
I just got an email tonight (Sunday, 10:30pm) from Phil Clark who requested that I contact him ASAP because "discussion was needed" about Fairfield. I'll call him tomorrow.
Phil is a guy who has been playing for 20 years. He either started Adler or was close to that action and had a hand in installing both Fairfield and Bevier. I played with him back in 92 or 93. Definitely a pro. He moved to Arizona and started Groovy Flight disc sales, but has since relocated to Milwaukee, 1/2 mile away from Dretzka. We ran into him at Standing Rocks too.
I'm unsure what his angle/position is, but we'll find out tomorrow. Hopefully he wants to help upgrade Fairfield......
While at KEnosha leagues, I spoke to Phil Clark, formerly of Adler and Round Lake, now a Dretzka player. He gave me the name and number of the original contact - Dave Brown "Brownie", a guy I've played with many times at Adler. Phil did not have the phone number of the other guy, Rob Schoenhoft, whom I also know. Phil really urged me to call them since they did the original work at Fairfield. I'll call today and see what's up. Has anyone heard from George at Round Lake Area Parks Department? Brett, would you do a follow-up email or call this week and let him know about our clean-up plans this Sunday? THANKS! Hopefully we can get some good work done out there, either with other folks or not. It doesn't matter to me who helps or why, as long as we can all come together and make Fairfield a little more than just "kinda playable".
Yes to the tape measurer on Thursday.
I believe he wants us to contact the old Adler crowd primarily for courtesy. He also said these guys are "interested in sprucing up" Fairfield. I asked him why they has let it go so long he told me to ask them.
I really don't see a problem as long as they are willing to work. If they just want so skim some cash or take the credit without working, they can forget it. I do NOT think we should wait for them after first contact is made. We should also see if any of them show up for cleanup day this Sunday (Brett, is this posted at the course? - If not, can you please?!).
But it isn't really our call; George at RLAPD is (supposedly) going to be da man, so he needs to give us an initial OK to do anything. Have you heard from him?
I tried calling Dave Brown Brownie" last night. No answer, no machine. I'll try him a few times today. I'd really like to be able have some comeraderie with the Adler/Round Lake guys - to be able to band together and do a good job together so we can all enjoy it. But I'm not going to bust a nut trying to coddle their hurt feelings if they never return a call.
Well, I spoke with Brownie for a long time tonight on the phone. He filled me in on some old background info that I wasn't aware of. It sounds like the Flying Deucemen (old Adler club) still exists in some fashion. Rob Schoenhoft is president, but Phil Clark and Dave Brownie are the driving force who have both been in contact with George Alexoff - today in fact. They are now organizing their own Fairfield cleanup day, and hope to get improvements going in general. He made it sound as if Phil really wants to make this his project, or at least be heavily involved. I told Dave that we were very interested in upgrading Fairfield with or without their help. But we agreed that whomever is going to be involved needs to sit down and talk with George Alexoff first.
Here's my thoughts. Let's do the Sunday cleanup as planned. Meet at 2pm, clean for an hour, then play 18 holes. Two groups - Pros/Advanced and Ams. $1 a man, winner take all in each of the two divisions. Or we can just play. The main point is picking up trash. I'll bring some bags.
Brett, did you let George know about the cleanup day? If not, can you please? Thanks!
I'll wait until after tomorrow's meeting to talk to Phil Clark. I want to make sure we're going in the right direction.
I believe between 92-94, before Phil Clark went to Arizona.
THANKS EVERYONE for coming out and helping pick up 12 BAGS OF GARBAGE!!!! The place looks great! The efforts of many individuals make this sport so wonderful, and when we come together for the common good, fabulous things occur!
MUCH THANKS to:
Jon, Becky, & Madissen
Brett Comincioli
Jay Nierodzik
Aaron Bowers
Jojo Burnett
Jason Hany
Paul Christensen
Myk Deardorff
Chud
Brandon Hanfland
Chris Zimmerman
You guys are da bomb baby! Thanks again!
I finished drafting the proposal for Round Lake Park District and Paul C. is currently proofing it. I will drop it off on Monday morning after making corrections. I will bring a copy to leagues on Sunday for those that want to check it out.
Also, Phil Clark finally emailed me. Said he wants to help. I told him that he can help us put together a comprehensive work schedule, once different projects at Fairfield get approved so that the Adler group can help in actually DOING some work with us. This way, others can help out if they want to, but we will not be bogged down if no-one else besides DISContinuum people show up. Sound good?
NEWS!
I got a message from Jeff Nehila, the Executive Director of the Round Lake Area Park District today. Said he met with the Board of Directors who were agreeable to our proposed projects!
BIG WOO-HOO!
The Board had a major concern about the parking lot. The want to expand & improve the lot, perhaps even moving the entrance to the course. This would be decided over the fall/winter and implemented in Spring 2003. During this time we stay in touch with Jeff/Keith so we can alter plans/designs as the entire layout may see some changes. After the road and parking lot are done, then we can go to work!
This was smooth and positive! Let's not lose momentum. If you have not sent an encouraging email to Round Lake, please do so soon. Community support is very important!
Jeff Nehila - jnehila@rlapd.org
Keith Neitzke - kneitzke@rlapd.org
Whoa, hooooold on, kids.
I spoke with Dave Brown briefly yesterday and plan on talking more soon. Brownie is a seasoned player and let me know that he and other folks are happy and ready to help. He just wanted to know how. He seemed sincerely interested in simply helping out the course and the local disc golf community in general.
We should welcome his offer. We should welcome all offers to help. Upgrading Fairfield is something DISContinuum members got started, but only because certain other "Adler" people dropped the ball. Phil and I talked a year ago at Standing Rocks about doing something somewhere locally.
Yes, I believe it is true that there are a few local golfers around that some folks dislike. Me included. But that's a personal thing, not a disc golf issue. A bunch of these old Adler/Fairfield guys worked their asses off to get those courses in. Now a few want to start pumping life into it again. Fabulous!
But how do we work together? Hmmm....
Get everyone to become a DIScontinuum member!
Hmmm....
I think the best way for everyone to do positive things is to get anyone who wants to help together at the next RLPD meeting and determine a schedule for doing the teepads at Fairfield. Assign jobs to people. Get commitments from people. If everyone puts their money where their mouths are, we'll have a good-sized crew!
The DISContinuum PDGA event is now firmly scheduled for August 10th. Sanctioning is still pending. Anyone who wants to help at this event should become a club member and talk to Jon Brakel or Brett Comincioli.
I thank Phil and Brownie and Tim Davis and Alex Bingman for stepping up and volunteering to help promote and improve local disc golf. I'll check with Brett about setting up a date and let everyone know.
Phil, just read your post. Thanks for being cool.
Good luck with that! Did you find them on the Discraft site?
So, is the RLPD providing limestone and/or bark chips for certain?
Excellent! Would you like other members to show up too?
You got it, big dooooooggggggggggggggggggggg!
Also, what time are we doing the work on April 5th? Let's get some solid committment from anyone who said they'd help.
So far, we have:
Brett, Jim, Jon, ..........
I'll bring some coffee. Or vodka with Mr. T's Bloody Mary mix. Depends how much sleep I get.
When? I thought you were out of state?
Congrats if applicable!
Nice pics - looking good!
Will there still be time to paint the baskets before the IO?
Will RLPD supply paint and/or steel wool, etc? I'll be there........
Nice job, Furb.
Wow, looks like the teepads have already taken a beating. Has the limestone been spread too thin? Do we need to add more for the tourney?
Looking good Brett!
Brett/Jon, I'd send out an email to club members (and perhaps non-club members) requesting help.
Will the Bobcat be there and manned?
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I e-mailed the Round Lake Park District this weekend about the missing basket & improvements to the course for the 2nd time. Since I live in Round Lake I also asked them why in their 60 page park magazine, there was no mention of the disc golf course in it. I got a response & the superintendent of rec wants to talk. I left him my # so i'll post later what he says.
That sounds great Jim. He still hasn't called but i'll try to set up a meeting.
OK, here is the lowdown. George Alexoff called me back today. He is the Superintendent of Recreation at Round Lake Area Park Department. He started off with a negative note. He has been involved with the disc golf course at Fairfield since it started. He said he had a small group contact him about getting a course installed (Adler Scum). They set up Fairfield. After the course was built the main guy who contacted him moved. The neighbors had problems with discs flying into their yard. He tried to contact the existing members but no one ever called him back. To make a long story short, the guys initially involved were no where to be found, so George had to make the decisions himself. He said they actually pulled the baskets for 8 monthes until someone contacted him. The recent layout is due to the discs going into peoples land. He said they will do no improvements until they get a group willing to help. He said they weren't going to ever replace the #3 basket. Here's where we can make a huge difference. He wants communication and people willing to work on the course. Do we want to be part of this? This would be awesome to tweek & make this a great course. Add pro & am tees. Alternate pin placements. I think we could make this course into a top notch course like UW-Parkside. He said they put up the bulletin board & no one used it. Man, wish we had a sweet board like that one!! He also said he would have calls from the Boy Scouts & would give them the #'s of these guys. They would not help them learn about disc golf. He did say that he does recognize that the course is getting a lot of play. He does not have the man power to do all the improvements that the course needs. I gave him the website address. He is going to check it over & talk to another staff member. He said he would get back to me. I think this would be a great project for us. We wouldn't have to worry about selling disc golf to another park district & finding a place for a course. We have the land & course. Now we can mold it into the best in the state of Illinois. How sweet would that be?
I think the the idea of Round Lake being the 2nd home would be sweet! I agree with you mirth, some vegetation would be nice. George said he dose not have the man hours to do the work but I think they do have the resources to start some upgrades. I still think the Gurnee project would be another great idea. The PFC has about 11 courses that they consider home courses. This is how they have 150+members.
Let's get this going!
E-mail george_alexoff@rlapd.org
Show support & we are willing to work!!
Sweet Mirth!!!
I also got an idea from the PDGA discussion board. I posted the possibility of us starting work on Fairfield. The first thing that was posted was all the garbage out there. I agree that there is a ton of garbage. Maybe we could have the club spend an hour picking up trash. Get the park district to bring out a some more cans. We then could have a best shot or casual round. What do you guys think?
This is a BiG F_ING HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Considering Fairfield is 2 miles from my house I would really like to see improvements & i'm willing to help. Jason & I were talking last night about the PFC. They have 4 courses that they rotate their leagues to. I think that would be cool!!
Hopefully it is positive. I played at Fairfield today & the #7 basket has been pulled up out of the ground. The concrete & everything has been pulled out. It is just sitting there & i'm worried the basket will be stolen. I e-mailed the park district tonight. Hopefully they will take care of it.
Well, just got back from playing 18 @ Fairfield. The #7 basket was gone. I hope the park district picked it up! I thought of another cheap & easy way to spruce up Fairfield. We could mark the AM & Pro Tees with those flags I used on the baskets @ Bevier. I also could print small tee signs on the computer & get them laminated. We could put those up on small sticks. Just a thought. Anyone want to help me measure & get these started this week?
Jim,
I e-mailed yestarday & have not received a response. Could you please bring your tape measure? CYA Thursday.
Why does he want you to contact these guys? Obviously they haven't been around the last few years so why should they be involved now?
I have not heard a word from him. The initial sign I posted about improvements is gone. The tournament flyer is still up though. I think someone tore it down. I will type up another one & hang it today. At this point I feel we are the BIG DOGS on the porch. No one else has stepped up to the plate to take on this task. If George Alexoff is willing to work with us, we should take advantage of it. No one else has contacted George. He told me that specifically. It's funny how when efforts are made the vultures come around to feed!
Well, the RLAPD has poured new cement for the #7 basket. Looks like it will be ready for reinstallment tomorrow. Maybe we could install a tone pole on #3. Shawn, don't get me wrong. I respect anyone who spends time designing, installing, & keeping up a course but the RLAPD told me all these guys did was design the course. The park district did the rest of the work. Since installment, there has been no work or planning since it has gone in the ground. The course is just sitting there getting run down. The superintendent of recs said he has not seen or spoken to these guys since the course has gone in. He has tried to contact them many times. They were supposed to work with the park district. The park district actually had to move some of the baskets because of discs flying onto someone's property. These guys had no say in that & they had every opportunity to do so. Are we supposed to go hunting these guys down as well? I don't think so. We are here to do good. Not harm. Yes it may only be a garbage pick up day, but I expect this course to be top notch if the park district will let us get involved. Bevier takes little maintenance time so we could spend those efforts on Fairfield. It has to start somewhere & no one else has stepped up and gotten anything started.
I can see your point of view Shawn. I would tell them to f!@# off & get out & help. I wish Parkside was closer. It is a sweet course. In my opinion, I wouldn't change jack there.
Yes,
I e-mailed George and added the link to the Fairfield Cleanup Day. I have not heard anything from him since early last week when I spoke with him the first time.
well, even if we don't get to do the job @ Fairfield, at least we woke up some people & got them off their a@#.
The #7 basket is back in. Be prepared because their is a ton of garbage out there.
At least we are going to have a great day for our garbage pick up & play. It is going to be sunny & in the mid 70's. Wind @ 7MPH so it will be good throwing weather. CYA out there.
What a great day. We picked up about 12 garbage bags of trash & filled many of the cans around the course. There were 13 people that helped pick up trash.
Thanks!
I just checked the PDGA Course Directory. Was this course really established in 1998? Man, it looks like it has been there 10 years. Can anyone confirm this?
That sounds good Jim! The more help we can get the better off the course will be. Let's don't go out of our way or get stressed out if those guys don't show. Hopefully they'll appreciate what we are doing & going to do.
AWESOME
jim,
has there been in current news from Round Lake Area Park District?
I apologize for that comment. I formed my opinions before I knew the facts.
My question is why did they help get this course in the ground? They don't play it.
Dave,
This is Brett Comincioli, PDGA #19325. VP of DISContinuum. I apologized for the comment as for I was man enough to admit my mistake.
Jim & other members of DISContinuum are #1 to the Am player in the area. Great events geared toward the Am player. A great place to start with a great support system.
I have only been playing since the summer of 01. I made a generalization of the Libertyville crowd. With the retro painted baskets, the open smoking on the course, & the groups of 10 on each fairway, I made some generalizations of the crowd at Adler. Heck, at the time I couldn't have named one person from that course. I also had a negative encounter at Round Lake as some jerk stole a disc of mine that was sitting out in the open on #18. I am now getting more & more facts about the core group of true disc golfers at Libertyville & Round Lake. I have met Alex, Tim, & Luke. I have also met Phil at leagues once & saw you(Dave) ace #8 @ Bevier with a disc you lost a few years earlier. I played with you that day. All are great players and I truely enjoy their support as well as I enjoy watching them play. That way I can learn how to throw since i'm not all that great.
The information about Fairfield came directly from George Alexoff at RLAPD.(He is no longer employed at RLAPD. Again, from his comments about the group that installed Fairfield, I formed unwise opinions. I now know how much work it took to get that course into the ground. I was shown the intial proposal to install the course & maintain it.
Here is the one thing that amazes me. I have not yet been playing a full two years. I live 1 mile from Fairfield. One day i'm taking a dump looking at the RLAPD Magazine. Nothing on disc golf. I write a simple e-mail asking why no disc golf in the magazine & where the #3 basket has been for over a year. I am contacted immediately. They said they were never going to put #3 back in the ground. No one had contacted them about until I e-mailed. I get the ball rolling with DISContinuum. We are trying to maintain the course, not claim it. We get hate e-mail & people pissed because we want to work on the course. Where have these people been the last 3 years that have allowed this course to turn into a dump? We wouldn't be doing anything there if it was maintained. I don't think others understand how close the park district was from removing all the baskets Fairfield & relocating to a smaller park. Even with us volunteering, RLAPD refuses to call Fairfield a permanent home of a disc golf course. They did assure that if that course was removed that there would be disc golf somewhere in Round Lake.
Dave,
Thanks for the understanding. I can't wait to work on Fairfield Park. I made some misjudgements on little info & I regret it. I agree, it's all about improving a course with a lot of potential.
Later
Brett
Phil, It was colder than heck!!!
At the club meeting Sunday, everyone agreed that chain upgrades are high priority.
Here is what is planned to be done in the spring.
1. Tee Pads- Limestone with the stone squares with # & distance in the corners.
2. Wood Chips around all 18 baskets & in areas that are bare.
Not sure exact dates yet but i'll try to nail one down.
I contacted Jeff today. He said that camping would be free to anyone wanting to camp at the Park on Friday or Saturday night.
I also tried to set up an initial date to get started on the tess & wood chips.
Saturday April 5th.
I don't have a game that day so that is why I picked it.
Dave, you have some time Saturday afternoon? I have that afternoon off. The sooner the better. My baseball season opens soon & then I have games every Saturday till the end of may. Let me know if this works. BTW, some of the tee pads are under water right now. #6 has running water on it. It may be better to move that one back 20 feet or so.
On the next post is an e-mail from Keith(RLAPD)
Saturday April 5th is going to be the first maintenance day.
I would like to propose a 4 step process.
A. Holes 1-5
B. Holes 6-10
C. Holes 11-14
D. Holes 15-18
Each hole would have a limestone tee installed
Wood chips around the basket.
Wood chips in any muddy areas on the fairway.
Anyone have any other input?
Brett,
With notice I can have people available any day. These are basic questions that we can answer any time we are going to coordinate a workday.
1. What project do you want to do? (Goals for the day?)
2. When do you want to do it?
3. What do you need me to do prior to the workday?
4. What do you want me to do the day of the workday?
5. What happens if you do not get the work done on the scheduled day?
Assuming you want to work on tees........Wednesday, April 2nd I would like to lay out the work you want done on the course. I will schedule a Bobcat to do the work Thurs. and Friday so that on the 5th you can have at it.
Although I am not available most Sundays, I will speak with Jeff and find out if this Sunday is good.
I am refering anyone with course suggestions to you. Daily maintenance is still my schtick. We should discuss what information we want to post on the parking lot kiosk. A wish list of improvements with costs attached would also be a topic for discussion. Think both short and long term.
e-mail or call, Thanks KJN
So here is what i'd like to propose to Keith for Saturday April 5th.
1. HOLES 1-5. Install limestone tees & spread wood chips around each basket. Install #3 basket.
I figured holes 1-5 are all in decent condition out of low areas. We could see how that goes and then see if we would could do more or less in the future. I'm figuring the wooded hole are going to take longer than the open holes because we'll have to spread more wood chips.
2. Saturday April 5th.
3. Need limestone @ tee areas #1 thru 5.
Need piles of wood chips around baskets 1-5.
Need #3 basket & concrete.
4. Drop off limestone & wood chips.
5. That is not an option. We will finish!!
I've checked into inner chains for Innova Discatcher Baskets. Inner Chains cost $30.00 each + shipping. I'm going to see if I can get the RLAPD to purchase these. Wish me luck.
yes, they are doing it this week. i'm meeting Keith on Wed.
not exactly sure what time we are meeting. i've got to schedule around my baseball games. it's not going to be very long so i'd say save the trip till Saturday morning when we'll need the help.
8:00AM
WOW! Fairfield is looking great. The tee pads are holding out. The fairways are mowed & the rough is getting taller. It looks fantastic. THE #3 BASKET IS IN!!!! Hell yeah!
Congrats on the ACE! Probably the 1st since it just went in the ground on Friday.
I too like the rough. Instead of just throwing into an open field, it takes skill to throw long & straight onto the fairway. You will now pay for a bad throw on those open holes. This will also help players look for discs. Over the long run, that skill will be developed. It was funny as heck on Saturday. Jon, Brandon, & I were talking. I watched some guy throw from #1. He turned around & did not watch his disc. He had no clue where it went. I bet he spent 5 minutes looking. The rough is not that thick right now. The grass is getting taller but it is not thick. I haven't had any problems finding discs. The course looks great & the park district is able to cut once a week compared to once every three weeks. I would say 90% of the players that I have talked to at Fairfield Leagues like the rough.
I've added some pictures to my website if anyone is interested.
http://discgolfer_1.tripod.com/discgolfcentral/id17.html
Hopefully. It is not set in stone but I want to have a massive work day on Saturday August 2nd. I'd like to see 20+ people there. Maybe we could get it done that day.
I'm going to ask again tomorrow. They said they would the first time.
Mirth & Jay,
That tripod website of mine sucks. If you get a chance & would like to update Fairfield, I have pictures posted on my web. I could also e-mail them to you. Could you post them on our website.
Tried to call Kieth today. He was not in. Going to stop by his office tomorrow to see if he'll have a worker out there. I hope so.
Here is what the new bricks will look like.
All 18 Bricks!
I played 2 rounds today @ Fairfield. The tee pads are holding up rather well. They have gotten very hard & there are no major problems. The flags are also in the ground from the Illinois Open. I can't believe they've lasted this long.
They mowed all the tall grass today. I think they are going let it grow tall again but I also thought they were going to wait until october to cut it.
This sounds like a great idea. Since the parks department seems a little bit reluctant (and understandably so after what happened with the last group), I think it would be best to start out slow with them. Maybe we could simply start doing little things like trash pick-up and clearing any brush that needs removed. Once they see that we are indeed serious about improving the course and sticking with it, our initial work could turn into a stronger relationship between the two parties.
I have been playing for only 7 years and have seen many people get "burned out." You can only go so far before you feel like your the only one picking up and upkeeping a course for other people to f**k it up the next day. You guys have to relize that the greatest thing that you can do for the sport is to put a course in the ground, the hours of time and politics to boot will stop most people in their tracks. And it is a courtesy to ask the designers for some input as they have put many hours into it and all you guys are doing is showing up for one day. Please don't get me wrong I am glad that you guys are helping out but don't go bashing someone who has done something positive in the past. Unless of course, they are assholes.
sorry....my bad. just sick of people telling me what I need to do to make something better and it is always the same people telling me about something wrong, never lifting a hand. These people only hurt the sport by burning me out. I just wish more people would step up and help....ya but th at would interfer with them playing the course everyday. Am I bitter?
Please ask the park district if we can get some drain tile dug in on the muddy holes to help dispurse water away. The Dreska boys had the grounds crew dig some in last fall on #1 and 2, we will see in spring how well it is going to work.
Quotemirth (08-12-2002 11:30 a.m.):
I'll try to get out there sometime this saturday or the weekend after this coming one & play a round with garbage bag in hand.
Let me know when you go out there. If it's next weekend, I'm positive I could come out and help pick up trash/keep you company on your round.
HELL YEAH!
Seriously though I will do whatever I can. It may not always be easy(that whole living in Chicago and working evenings), but as I said I will help ou whenever I can and to the best of my ability!
So one more time with soul.... HEEEEEEELL YEAAAAAAH!
The rough is ROUGH, but the short grass is getting cut 3 times as often as before because they can cut so much quicker now.
Here's a panaramic shot I made with three pictures from the G5 and then I used the Canon stitch program to put them together. It's pretty wide because I wanted something I could use as my wallpaper. I've got it going across my screen with black above and below. I think it looks pretty cool.
QuoteJim (07-29-2003 07:33 a.m.):
Nice job, Furb.
Wow, looks like the teepads have already taken a beating. Has the limestone been spread too thin? Do we need to add more for the tourney?
Some of the tee pads need some filler before the tournament. Limestone is not cement and needs continuing care. With the amount of traffic that Round Lake gets, limestone is not the best answer, but since they don't want cement it is what we are left with. However, even the worst of the limestone tee pads is way better than the worst of the dirt/mud tee pads. The easy part is getting more stone down. As long as the parks has someone out there with the machine, they can top them off very quickly and easily.
What I'm worried about is that if only Jim, Brett and I are the only ones out there on Saturday, we won't be able to get the course in as good of shape as Brett and I had hoped. We'll be lucky if we can get all 36 stones in.
Jon and I did 9 rounds in three states in four days and now I'm back at home. I was in town briefly on Thursday to trade my kids for Jon, and again on Monday to swap back.
Was there today for the second time..
Holy SHIT WAS IT WINDY!
My first throw overshot the pin by like 60ft and 80ft to the right.. it was hilarious.
I love the rough and glad to see pin #3 is back. Keep up the good work everyone
I,m glad to see that someone has stepped up to the plate to maintain the course and that the negative comments made about we "Adler Scum" were apologized for. We as disc golfers are skating on thin ice with too many park districts to be divided . I helped to design and install the fairfield course and have sin ce moved to terre haute indiana where we are in the final phaze [last 5 holes] of installing concrete tee's at demming park ,and getting a course that was 9 holes and is currently 4 holes and a joke updated to 18 [rose hulman univ . Hi to all of the old alder boys dave ,phil and of course al . I am going t try and make it up there for the Illinois open but it doesn't look good . I am just comming back to the sport after a 5 year hiatus . Take care and be good!!
I have been a disc golfer for a few weeks now, and am really getting into it. I love the sport! My home course is Willow Stream, Buffalo Grove. Every Monday morning at dawn Me and some friends go up to Fairfield for 2 runs of the course. I think it is one amazing course, but could still use some improvement. Maybe repainting the baskets, and improving the tees a little. If there is any way to help this go along, or acually help myself, let me know.
Brett? This sounds like something you should answer.... :)
QuoteI have been a disc golfer for a few weeks now, and am really getting into it. I love the sport! My home course is Willow Stream, Buffalo Grove. Every Monday morning at dawn Me and some friends go up to Fairfield for 2 runs of the course. I think it is one amazing course, but could still use some improvement. Maybe repainting the baskets, and improving the tees a little. If there is any way to help this go along, or acually help myself, let me know.
Macgyver642,
We have spent many hours this year to improve Fairfield. It has come a long ways in a short period of time. We plan on doing more to the course in the future.
#1 Tee Pads-> The tee pads are twice as nice now. They used to be dirt ravines. They were unsafe & unplayable at any time. After a good rainfall, they would fill & hold water for days. The park district will not install concrete tee pads. The limestone was really the only option to go.
#2 Baskets-> The baskets probably won't get painted until next year. We ran out of time & manpower this year. I do plan on getting the chain upgrades done before the winter.
We would love any help. We post all work days on our website. Also, if you want to do anything on your own, please contact me & i'll make sure the park district knows about the work being done.
Thanks for your interest!
I would like to at least do a test basket this year before winter. We'll see if the weather cooperates with my schedule. Is it possible to get the supplies, Brett? I don't remember now if we are paying for the supplies or if the RLAPD is.
Jon,
RLAPD will pay for the S-Hooks & chain. I have to get on the ball & contact them.
Jon - Are you talking paint or chain upgrades? I kinda thought you meant paint but it looks like Brett thinks you're talking about the upgrades.
The park district will also pay of paint. They want the basket so play better & look better.
If you want to use my basket as a example of how to do that model you may. Just let me know.. ;)
I will for sure. Thanks Shawn! I did check them out at Morton while I was there. I have a pretty good idea of how they are attached but i'd like to have it with me when I do the first one.
yes, I was talking about the paint.
I played Fairfield Tuesday afternoon. After the big rains the swamp was full. I've never seen it with that much water. The majority of the tee pads were in good shape. These tees need some work-> 7, 9, 10, 11, & 13. #11 was the worst. It had water running thru the middle of it. The wood chips helped a ton. The course was not that muddy & compared to how it used to be, it's fantastic.
Excellent - glad to hear all that work held up so far!
The park district was out there today finishing the addition of the parking lot. They added wood poles to enclose the lot. #1 tee pad is fairly close to the lot but it's not too bad. They did their best to level the lot. It's gravel.
I also got an e-mail from Keith Neitzke of RLAPD. A Scouts Troop is going to be doing some work at Fairfield as well. They are going to finish up wood chips on holes # 15 & 16. They are also going to sand & paint the bakets.
Boy Scouts rule! Find out what troop it is, please....
QuoteA Scouts Troop is going to be doing some work at Fairfield as well. They are going to finish up wood chips on holes # 15 & 16. They are also going to sand & paint the bakets.
It is really cool that someone outside of the DG community is interested in helping us! :D
Yeah, especially since the park was kinda theirs before the course was installed. It'd be great to get some kind of relationship going with the troop and/or council in the area.
Work will begin on the baskets at Fairfield every weekend from March 6th, 2004 to May 9th, 2004. They will be pulling a few at a time, painting them, then adding chain upgrades. This is a Boy Scouts Troop doing the work. I'll try to find out which troop.
Someone's trying to earn their Eagle Scout Badge.
QuoteSomeone's trying to earn their Eagle Scout Badge.
DX or CE? :P
If only I knew about DG when I was trying to come up with a project. I coulda had Eagle!
QuoteThey will be pulling a few at a time, painting them, then adding chain upgrades. This is a Boy Scouts Troop doing the work.
Most of the older Innova baskets down here have been sent too Innova to be re-powder coated. They look great now. Not to sure how paint will hold up on them. Any paint experts out there? It would suck to have them chipping after a few months.
Terry Miller called me saturday to ask why 5 baskets were missing from RL! Boy Scouts, baby!
How many have been completed? Or was this the first batch?
There is a HUGE flyer posted on the bulletin board at the course. It's been there a few weeks.
Here's the latest info I have.
Dear Keith and Brett,
The first work day went well. I had 17 people throughout the day
(including Ed) who helped me. We stripped and primed the six baskets
you gave us. We used a Rustoleum rusty metal primer to keep the baskets
in good condition for as long as possible. Since it's an oil based
paint, it will take 24 hours to dry. Ed told us we could leave all of
the baskets in the garage, so they are drying in the garage. We need to
arrange it somehow I can put the yellow paint on the baskets during the
week so we can get a new batch next Saturday. If we can, I'd like to
shoot for the same time frame next Saturday (9-3), it seemed to work
nicely. So overall, there were no problems and we will be on schedule
if we can find a way to put the yellow paint on this week (possibly
take the baskets to my house?). Ed was very helpful, he got us the
tools we needed and helped us do what we needed to get done. I'll talk
with you later-
Tim Storm
Excellent! I did not know about the timeframe or posted letter. I thought Terry checked our boards regularly, but maybe not....
THANKS Brett!!!
The first set of painted baskets have been put back in place. They look good, very shiny yellow. The paint will help with the rust issue. Some of the baskets have started to rust majoryly.
They have started to mow the fairways again. I love that look.
QuoteThey have started to mow the fairways again. I love that look.
Are all the baskets back in?
I think 3 are still out & 2 more still need to be painted.
Trivial bit of info.
Fairfield is Lake Countys Highest Elevation course at approx 785 ft. Wildwood second 780 ft. Mundelien Libertyville approx 750 Ft.
Waukegan 660 ft
Crystal Lake Illinois 930's
Not that I doubt your numbers, but just curious as to the source of that information.
(god I sound like a teacher don't I?)
Basic Search engine info like " elevation crystal lake illinois" for examp..enter and read..
scores must be Low at Fairfield, No Rain Great Conditions.
QuoteBasic Search engine info like " elevation crystal lake illinois" for examp..enter and read..
scores must be Low at Fairfield, No Rain Great Conditions.
Willow Stream Park, Buffalo Grove is about 700 feet. I use terra server (http://terraserver.microsoft.com/) when I need an aerial photo or elevation.
Thanks fellas :)
All 18 baskets are in the ground. Holes #16 & 17 baskets have not been repainted though. All the other baskets have been painted.
It also looks like the scout troop is getting ready to start laying more wood chips. There have been 2 big piles dumped.
I talked to Keith yestarday at Fairfield. He said the scout troop is wrapping up their work. They are going to be putting # stickers on each basket. #'s 15 & 16 have not been painted. I forgot to ask if they would be painted so I e-mailed to find out.
Some of the baskets already have writing on them. I bought a can of John Deere Yellow Rustoleum. I painted over all the writing. The yellow matches well and it covers the black marker.
QuoteI talked to Keith yestarday at Fairfield. He said the scout troop is wrapping up their work. They are going to be putting # stickers on each basket. #'s 15 & 16 have not been painted. I forgot to ask if they would be painted so I e-mailed to find out.
Some of the baskets already have writing on them. I bought a can of John Deere Yellow Rustoleum. I painted over all the writing. The yellow matches well and it covers the black marker.
Might be nice to give that scout troop an honorary hole sponsorship/tribute at the August IO.
A small path of wood chips have been laid on holes 15 & 16 this weekend.
Keith said that 15 & 16 baskets will get painted.
I also forgot to mention that RLAPD has added the course link from DISContinuum to their website. I would like to do that with all the courses that we do.
Played Fairfield w/ a few friends last night for the 2nd time this season. Man I love this course! In my opinion probably the best course in the Northern burbs (excluding Parkside)! B) Players beware in the wooded holes...Mosquitos are as big as birds. Didn't play too well or too horribly...3 bogeys, a bird, and the rest pars. What are you supposed to play 18 as, Par 4, 5?? We played it as a 5 yesterday. Can't wait for the tourney at the end of the summer!
Fairways were mowed, although I actually hope they don't mow the "rough." If they do it'll be even more difficult to find your disc among the grass clippings.
They won't be mowing the entire field until the last mowing or two of the season.
Fairfield looks great ! The fairways are starting to grow in and with this moderate rain they look very good.
When windy conditions dont exhist here 2,3,4,5, can be had in two easier than than most others on the course.
Fairfield is a jewel in lake county getting better every day.
Improvements if anyone is looking for them...
... push basket/target on #4 onto the the flat ground above the rise that it is currently on. add approx 30-40 feet. But makes the hole not such a gimme.
... eliminate #5 tee and incorporate it with #3 tee pad. Keep high grass where it is and yank it ! Try it out as an alternate.
QuoteFairfield looks great ! The fairways are starting to grow in and with this moderate rain they look very good.
When windy conditions dont exhist here 2,3,4,5, can be had in two easier than than most others on the course.
Fairfield is a jewel in lake county getting better every day.
Improvements if anyone is looking for them...
... push basket/target on #4 onto the the flat ground above the rise that it is currently on. add approx 30-40 feet. But makes the hole not such a gimme.
... eliminate #5 tee and incorporate it with #3 tee pad. Keep high grass where it is and yank it ! Try it out as an alternate.
Both of those are probably closer to how they were originally, but they had to be moved. People would throw over the fence and then climb over to get their discs. The farmers on that side of the fence do not want anyone climbing over to get discs. Please do not play any alternate tees that would put you in jeopardy of burning one over the fence.
Hey all, I've been playign disc golf for only a number of months now and just played at Fairfield this past weekend. I've only played at Adler previously, but I reallly liked Fairfield and I'm just curious, does anyone know the pars for holes/course? There aren't any sign posts, as I'm sure you all know, or anything saying(except a map(from this website) on the bulliten board at the start, that showed the lengths of the holes), and so my friends and I were just sort of winging it and wound up just keeping track of total throws. It's not a big deal of course, just something we're curious about.
QuoteHey all, I've been playign disc golf for only a number of months now and just played at Fairfield this past weekend. I've only played at Adler previously, but I reallly liked Fairfield and I'm just curious, does anyone know the pars for holes/course? There aren't any sign posts, as I'm sure you all know, or anything saying(except a map(from this website) on the bulliten board at the start, that showed the lengths of the holes), and so my friends and I were just sort of winging it and wound up just keeping track of total throws. It's not a big deal of course, just something we're curious about.
It's a long discussion & if you check the PDGA Discussion Board you can read all about par & disc golf. www.pdga.com
Par is set at 3 for all holes @ Fairfield. #18 could be a true par 4 but is still played at Par 3. If you've only been playing a few months, I would play all the holes as par 4 except, 8,17, & 18 or continue to just keep track of total score to see if you are improving.
Thanks for stopping by the message board & welcome!
Alright, heh...we certainly didn't do as well as we thought we were doing then. Thank you very much, I greatly appriciate it.
At this point in the evolution of disc golf there is no definition for par. Most of us play most courses as all par threes, but keeping track of total throws is really the best way to record your score. Most parks put up pars that are not based on current skill levels of top players.
QuoteAlright, heh...we certainly didn't do as well as we thought we were doing then. Thank you very much, I greatly appriciate it.
Don't get discouraged. Disc golf is a game you can rapidly advance as long as you keep throwing. Continue to keep score & don't worry about par. You will see imporvement in your game if you continue to play. Try to play with people that are throwing well. Ask them questions & watch them. That is how I learned.
QuoteDon't get discouraged. Disc golf is a game you can rapidly advance as long as you keep throwing. Continue to keep score & don't worry about par. You will see imporvement in your game if you continue to play. Try to play with people that are throwing well. Ask them questions & watch them. That is how I learned.
I cannot stress that enough. My game has improved by 100% just from playing with the Crystal Lake crew. Also I would recommend that you play in leagues. Do not look at it as a potential $5 loss, but as a $5 lesson. Watch the forms that the top players use and find a form that works the best for you.
Play Par 3 on every Course it evens out for the most part.. keeps it easy to keep score but in conversation it could get difficult when comparing scores over or under par when different scales exist. Changing a par because of skill level is a bad Idea, then when would some one play par at a course like ADLER Par 18 for nine or 36 because Im a beginner ? 18 at Fairfield is par 4 but you have to stay at three because of easier par threes on course.
Plus lets get to the real question Who wins in a fight Barry or Vijay, K.C or Tiger, Annika or J.Korver, Cam T or J Daley ? crooked soft or eddie.... ?
QuotePlay Par 3 on every Course it evens out for the most part.. keeps it easy to keep score but in conversation it could get difficult when comparing scores over or under par when different scales exist. Changing a par because of skill level is a bad Idea, then when would some one play par at a course like ADLER Par 18 for nine or 36 because Im a beginner ? 18 at Fairfield is par 4 but you have to stay at three because of easier par threes on course.
Plus lets get to the real question Who wins in a fight Barry or Vijay, K.C or Tiger, Annika or J.Korver, Cam T or J Daley ? crooked soft or eddie.... ?
lol me hands down
I think they were saying that a beginner could compare par of 4 on each hole to the skills of a more advanced player getting 3's on each hole. (I think they'd get scared if you told them that some people get 2's and aces on some of those holes!)
QuoteQuotePlay Par 3 on every Course it evens out for the most part.. keeps it easy to keep score but in conversation it could get difficult when comparing scores over or under par when different scales exist. Changing a par because of skill level is a bad Idea, then when would some one play par at a course like ADLER Par 18 for nine or 36 because Im a beginner ? 18 at Fairfield is par 4 but you have to stay at three because of easier par threes on course.
Plus lets get to the real question Who wins in a fight Barry or Vijay, K.C or Tiger, Annika or J.Korver, Cam T or J Daley ? crooked soft or eddie.... ?
lol me hands down
lol ya right i would touch your knee and u would go down crying like a little bitch
Before leagues tonight I took some chain out & tested it on basket 18. I think I found an easy way to add the chains & it seem to be effective.These are not magic chains. Any putt that hits high, right, or left still deflect out. The design of the old Discatchers is brutal. These chains however do help when a disc hits dead center and turns. Rather than blasting thru, these seem to catch those. The players liked it so far. I'll keep those on there for a while & see what they say. If that works, we have enough chain to do 16 baskets. I'll skip #8 & #17 since those are the shortest holes on the course. it should only take an hour or so the way I configured them. It takes no cutting of the chains.
Nice work Brett. If you need help with the other 15, let me know.
Im surprised that no one or group has proposed enhancements to Round Lake about Fairfield 18...
Grass cutting and mainatainance is one issue but solid enhancements are another.
A solid theme should be developed for 2005 on just the way that the grass (pasture, open space will be addressed) a more creative cutting pattern should be implemented. Create more landing area and less short grass fairway.
Also why cant other collars be planted for optional pin placements ?
Also alternate tee box's
Pour 3 to 5 concrete tee pads.
Plant trees and or tall pines from other park locations to prime out certain holes like #8 or #2 or #4 or #5.
Park Benches.
Shelter
Public Telephone.
Real Toilets
Redesign short forest holes.
The course is ready to rock, it needs some enhancements.
QuoteIm surprised that no one or group has proposed enhancements to Round Lake about Fairfield 18...
Grass cutting and mainatainance is one issue but solid enhancements are another.
A solid theme should be developed for 2005 on just the way that the grass (pasture, open space will be addressed) a more creative cutting pattern should be implemented. Create more landing area and less short grass fairway.
Also why cant other collars be planted for optional pin placements ?
Also alternate tee box's
Pour 3 to 5 concrete tee pads.
Plant trees and or tall pines from other park locations to prime out certain holes like #8 or #2 or #4 or #5.
Park Benches.
Shelter
Public Telephone.
Real Toilets
Redesign short forest holes.
The course is ready to rock, it needs some enhancements.
Why do you think that these ideas have not been pursued with the Round Lake Area Park District?
Other than a public telephone I think all of those ideas were presented to RLAPD two years ago. It all comes down to money. We have not been successful in getting any funds budgeted for the course. There are some improvements that the park board is not interested in even if it is for free.
Concrete Tees? Some trees? Awesome ideas Mangler!!!!!!!!! That'll make Fairfield so much better. I knew something was missing out there, but neither me nor any other club members have quite been able to put our finger on it.
I dont live in Round Lake so maybe Im overstepping. But If I did live in town The course would be in better shape plus it would have a better future.
enhancements are low cost measures. Money is not a valid stumbling block. Effort is the deciding factor.
For instance..If enhancements are or have been proposed why not take it one hole at a time start at 1 when it is right go to 2 etc.
Round Lake can benefit itself if it focuses on making it happen. They have property and resources that can be used to make it happen.
Plus who is in charge of making the course better not of just keeping it viable.
They would understand that providing a better course is good for everyone.
How is money not a valid stumbling block? Does that mean that you are going to make a donation to RLPD to install cement tees? As Jon stated, all of your suggested improvements have already been suggested to RLPD. I'm sure if Mangler lived in Round Lake that RLPD would make these improvements happen, but its unfortunate for us all that he doesn't. As it is, I know that efforts were made last summer to improve the course and tee pads. They still aren't cement, but I think that they are better than they were.
I think they do realise that, however their staff numbers in the tens of people versus hundreds.
You're right, Mangler - Money isn't the whole issue, since they have turned down offers of FREE potential improvements. They have said numerous times that they're interested in doing little to improve the current layout.
QuoteI dont live in Round Lake so maybe Im overstepping. But If I did live in town The course would be in better shape plus it would have a better future.
enhancements are low cost measures. Money is not a valid stumbling block. Effort is the deciding factor.
For instance..If enhancements are or have been proposed why not take it one hole at a time start at 1 when it is right go to 2 etc.
Round Lake can benefit itself if it focuses on making it happen. They have property and resources that can be used to make it happen.
Plus who is in charge of making the course better not of just keeping it viable.
They would understand that providing a better course is good for everyone.
Brett, Jim, myself and a few others have done a lot of work on the course in the last 2 years. Before that it was neglected. We have told the RLAPD that we can probably get some free trees and/or bushes to improve some of the open holes. They turned that idea down. They don't want any planted in the open areas. We have offered the labor and/or money to do cement tees. They turned that offer down. We have offered to design some course changes to make the course more challenging and fun plus the labor to change it. Again this was turned down. They are not interested in making ANY changes to the course. You are misinformed if you think we are not doing something about the course. If you have ideas on how to better approach the RLAPD, then please come to a meeting to discuss it.
Brett, Dan and I spent several days this year regrooming the tees, spreading wood chips, and other maintenance work that the RLAPD does support and help with. You are welcome to join us next summer if you'd like to help make the course better.
You guys need a big Thank You !
Im ignorant.
I spent a good part of my time at Mundelin Picking up Trash yesterday.
I would like to give some man hours for 2005 so please keep me informed.
how about some fake trees on some of the early holes
could they be installed (or put in just for the tournament)
i bet u could pick some up cheap after xmas or
at garage sales
lol that would help the course
I think it was Brett's idea that we have a giant balloon dinosaur as an obstacle on Hole 1 for the tournament. :lol:
Round Lake is in the middle of a Construction Boom Right Now.. Houses are being built and that means that parks will have to be built. Money will be appropriated for playgrounds and all of the other things that go with it.
Round Lake will have to address expansion in the Park District Soon.
One piece of Playground Equipment could be more Cash than the entire budget spent on Fairfield Disc Course in The last year alone.
An appealing part of disc golf is that you get a very large bang for your buck.
A Layout like Fairfield will look very appealing when the budget is dwarfed by the new parks that will be built.
Also I wasnt clear in one instance. If Round Lake is for letting outside parties enhance course. if yes...than.
concrete forms could be built ----Free
concrete could be donated.-----Free
flat work done.-----Free
trees could be planted from donated sources.
Plus other things.
Very Possible.
Mike & I put inner chains on 9 baskets yesterday. We'll get the other 9 done in the next few weeks.
QuoteMike & I put inner chains on 9 baskets yesterday. We'll get the other 9 done in the next few weeks.
Very cool! Thanks!
QuoteQuoteMike & I put inner chains on 9 baskets yesterday. We'll get the other 9 done in the next few weeks.
Very cool! Thanks!
Discatchers with inner chains are as good as any target there is.
I painted all the baskets with writing on them yesterday. #14 basket is quite high right now. Someone pulled it out & it filled up with wood chips. Those need to be taken out to the get basket in the ground properly.
Hopefully Mike & I will be able to get the chains done in the next couple of weeks.
Someone last Thursday busted down a tree on #16.
Today I played & there is another tree busted down on #17.
The park rangers said to dial 911 & tell them what park you are at. They will respond immediately. Get license plates if possible.
I hate people
QuoteI hate people
Me too.
i guess people must LOVE holes 1-5 at fairfield, cuz they keep trying to make the rest of the holes look exactly like them.
Mike, Dan, & I finished the chains at Fairfield today. The club had to purchase $40.00 more chain & s hooks to finish the job. There is approximately $250.00 to $275.00 worth of chain out there that club members have donated thru the years. That includes the six 1.5 lenghts of chain on each basket & 12 S-hooks. Mike Clark donated the equipment for the rings which are approximately $1.00 costing $18.00. Thanks to everyone that continues to support the club.
Thanks Brett, Dan, and Mike they look sweet, all shiny and new looking. I very much appreciate you doing that. I will be out tomorrow, maybe I will see you there.
Thanks again
The park district did some work on the course this week. They worked on the tee pads & put down a ton of wood chips. The course looks good.
I just left the course and the park district was back out today. They were compacting the lime stone tee pads. I talked with Mike, one of the guys doing the work, he will not be able to compact all of the tee pads today some are just too wet. I was watching him try to compact 1's tee pad and the compactor just sank into the tee pad :( ... He said that he will be coming back after the rain stops to finish what can not compact today and to apply weed killer under the baskets. We were also talking about the size of the tee pad and I told him that 6x12 behind the tee markers was good. He was also talking about coming back at some point and cutting out new tee pads and replanting grass around the tee pads. Seems like they are really interested in improving the course. Sweat!
QuoteSeems like they are really interested in improving the course. Sweat!
Yeah, it does seem like hard work, toil and sweat. Its also pretty SWEEEEET!! :)
I agree, they are doing a great job so far on the baskets and the tee pads. The wood chips along some rutted areas are really nice as well.
However, I was playing a couple of days ago and someone had put about a 12' long tree branch through the basket on 17. Any idea what the penalty is for putting the jackass that did it through the basket???
I live less than 5 minutes from the park, so if you all ever need help with maintenance, cleanup, or whatever, and I'm not working count me in. What's the rule about adding our own enhancements??? Things like tee signs, hole flags, next tee markers, alternate tees, etc. would be relatively low cost and I'd definitely put in time and money on stuff like that.
Just got the word that lame hole #8 is going to be moved this weekend. It's about time!!
Also, i'm working on getting a practice basket installed between basket 18 & 1 tee.
Hole #8 surprised me when I played there about 2 weeks ago. I'm really liking the new location. Great job.
I attended the Round Lake Area Park District Board meeting tonight. DISContinuum was awarded with a service award tonight. I want to thank all those who have helped over the past 3-4 years pick up trash, work the tees, spread wood chips, install the brick tee markers, paint the baskets, add inner chains, line fairways with logs, & put together the course page. Even though Fairfield isn't the greatest course, it's come a long ways from what it once was. Thank you everyone for your help. Please help police Fairfield. Tell people to throw away their garbage. Call the cops if they break down trees.
That is awesome!
Fairfield has come a long ways. Thanks to everyone who helped keep it clean and functional.
When do we put in chucker repellent??? >:D
I met with the RLAPD yesterday out at the course. The practice basket arrive. I'm going to need help installing the basket. I need to set up a date to get that done.
I asked them about making hole 14A permanent. They are considering it. If approved it will be slightly longer than what was played at the Dubs event.
I am also trying an experimental idea on basket #17. The club purchased a yellow rod from Home Depot near the mailboxes. I installed it on #17's basket around 3:30pm yesterday. You can see it standing on the tee. My over/under on it staying on the basket is 1 day. We'll see if it's still there. #17's tee will be moved back about 30-40ft at the next work day.
What about the tee pads?
The heavy use has left them in horrible condition.
Concrete would improve this course more than any other change.
Tee pads will be touched up at a work day. Not sure when that will be.
Concrete is not going to happen out at Round Lake. I bring it up in every e-mail and every conversation I have with the park district and it's shot down immediately like it was yesterday for the millionth time.
One other note I forgot to mention. The park district is getting very frustrated with litter, especially beer cans. Since it's a park rule (No Alcohol in the park) they are thinking about sending in undercover cops to start busting people on the course similar to what Crystal Lake does.
Brett I am blind and cannot see that pole , maybe putt a flag on it?
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 16, 2006, 09:37:55 AM
Tee pads will be touched up at a work day. Not sure when that will be.
Concrete is not going to happen out at Round Lake. I bring it up in every e-mail and every conversation I have with the park district and it's shot down immediately like it was yesterday for the millionth time.
One other note I forgot to mention. The park district is getting very frustrated with litter, especially beer cans. Since it's a park rule (No Alcohol in the park) they are thinking about sending in undercover cops to start busting people on the course similar to what Crystal Lake does.
Heh, one of the days I was on the course at Crystal Lake the cops weren't going undercover, they were sitting in the parking lot and then later they drove down the walking path towards hole 8 or somewhere in that area. Shortly after that I heard lots of yelling lol. I think that happened back in March. It might have been the same day that I saw a guy (maybe someone from here?) that had about 5 or 6 tubs full of discs for sale outside of his trunk.
Maybe they'd consider rubber tees instead of concrete? hehe
Hole 14A has been approved by the park district. It will be installed sometime this summer.
Nice!!! 20 hole course in my back yard!!! BTW, the stick on 17 was still up as of this AM. Oh, crap, I just jinxed it and it will be gone tomorrow after having said that. Sorry. ;D ;) Any word on the install of the practice basket? I can help if needed and during a day off (thurs, fri).
Well, it had to end sometime....Sometime between 7pm last night and 10am this morning, someone broke the fiberglass pin on 17 into about 4-5 pieces. The bottom is still taped to the basket, but it's gone for all intensive purposes. People suck. :angry: :angry: :angry:
Well it lasted a lot longer than I expected.
Practice basket is in.
:headbang:
Just in time for my day off. Sweeeeet. ;D
The park district mowed the fairway for hole 14a. I'm meeting with them either tomorrow of Friday about getting the basket in. Hopefully it will be in by the end of the month.
And then a mad dash to get the "new" course record. Should be fun. Thanks for the hard work, Brett.
Quote from: discmonkey on August 02, 2006, 08:42:37 PM
And then a mad dash to get the "new" course record. Should be fun. Thanks for the hard work, Brett.
No problem.
I put together the basket tongiht. It's ready to go. I'm going to dig the hole a little deeper so it will be at the correct height. I'll be handing off the anchor to the park district for them to cement it in. Once that is done the basket will go in. I'll try to get the tee pad done so it's complete. Hopefully that will be done in 2 weeks but who knows.
Brett,
Tell me when you are going to putt the basket in so I can help, then we can play a round for the course record!!!
Neal,
I'm not sure when the basket will be in. The anchor still needs to be cemented and set in place.
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I was able to get out there this morning and dig the hole to the correct depth so it's not high like the practice basket. I did some trimming to open the gap up and picked up some debris in the fairway.
If you (any Fairfield players) are able to spend 10 or so minutes picking up some debri around the fallen tree that would be great. The hole will be in soon I hope.
I met with the park district this morning. Costly $75 visit. Anyway, the basket should be in the ground in the next week or 2. Some of the grass is starting to green and the hole will be playable very soon. It will be a grass tee to begin with.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on August 09, 2006, 08:59:55 AM
I met with the park district this morning. Costly $75 visit. Anyway, the basket should be in the ground in the next week or 2. Some of the grass is starting to green and the hole will be playable very soon. It will be a grass tee to begin with.
You shouldn't park in the handicap spot.
Is there another Doubles Cash Raising Tourney on the burner for The Fall ?
Fairfield can use another tweek or two...
an elevated deck @ #4 say 40 yards behind current box {PARKSIDE DESIGN} would be sweet !
Good luck to fellow discers at Streamwood..
Quote from: Mangler on August 09, 2006, 02:25:53 PM
Is there another Doubles Cash Raising Tourney on the burner for The Fall ?
Fairfield can use another tweek or two...
an elevated deck @ #4 say 40 yards behind current box {PARKSIDE DESIGN} would be sweet !
Good luck to fellow discers at Streamwood..
I think Al is right, Fairfield still is not the perfect course. Lets make some improvements.
...because the farmers to the north don't like disc golf enough, let's add an elevated launch pad for people to lose their discs over the fence from!
I say plant some trees out in the open field. just take some small trees out of the woods and transplant them. then it will be one of the few local courses with trees and hills :o
And then we can get all the chuckers together and hack them up. The trees would never survive the fury of the CHUCKER! >:D
What happend to 14. i guess it disappeared sometime between friday morning and saturday afternoon.
Any word on this hole yet??
Quote from: BigE on August 13, 2006, 05:03:48 PM
What happend to 14. i guess it disappeared sometime between friday morning and saturday afternoon.
Any word on this hole yet??
I have an e-mail into the park district. They have yet to respond.
Thank you very much.
The basket was stolen. The park distrcit is ordering a new basket and should arrive in a week or so. I'm going to place the basket that the club purchased in 14's position then the new basket will go back in 14A.
Keep a lookout for that basket. It will be very easy to identify with it's unique innner chains, paint, and old style.
thanks for the update and if i see the basket ill get it back.
Erik
p.s. why do people steal baskets park districts spend all this money so people who enjoy the sport can play for free. Really pisses me off. i wish there was a way to make it a lot harder to steal those. maybe ill just sit out there at night with a baseball bat and a case of beer. ok im done with my rant
2 bags of quikcrete and rebar will prevent them from being easily uprooted, however protecting the locks while making them still accessible is more difficult.
the park districts in our area seem to be flush with cash, regardless what they may tell you, so a $300 replacement basket isn't much to them.
Baskets seem to get stolen around the time Yound Adults are going back to college. They make great laundry baskets.
Hole 14A has been installed. The tee was marked by flags prior to doubles last night but by the end of the round they were gone.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 15, 2006, 07:27:24 AM
The tee was marked by flags prior to doubles last night but by the end of the round they were gone.
sigh  :icon_scratch:
Just a heads up.... I was out playing at Fairfield day before yesterday and had a disc stolen. I threw down seven and on the way down, that long haired, dirty, crackhead can collector guy that is always out there was walking up 7 at the same time. My disc was nowhere to be found so I caught up to the guy all the way back at one and confronted him about it. It took me getting very loud and threatening to call the police before the guy finally admitted to it and threw my disc back at me. If you see that guy out there (and he's out there a lot), beware.
Does Fairfield have any cattails or are the swampy areas just grass?
Quote from: discmonkey on November 10, 2006, 02:26:35 PM
Just a heads up.... I was out playing at Fairfield day before yesterday and had a disc stolen. I threw down seven and on the way down, that long haired, dirty, crackhead can collector guy that is always out there was walking up 7 at the same time. My disc was nowhere to be found so I caught up to the guy all the way back at one and confronted him about it. It took me getting very loud and threatening to call the police before the guy finally admitted to it and threw my disc back at me. If you see that guy out there (and he's out there a lot), beware.
I played out there a few weeks back and I someone, maybe the same guy but I don't know. Same thing happened to me but I saw this guy pick up my disc and only after I yelled at him three or four times as I was running up to him did he give my disc back. I saw that he had two or three other disc with him so maybe he is out there finding disc and trying to sell them to the kids that come out there for extra money or something? :unsure:
Quote from: Top Banana on September 18, 2007, 06:46:34 PM
Does Fairfield have any cattails or are the swampy areas just grass?
Bump.
They look like cattails to me.
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=60
Its mostly just tall grass
Does anyone know how many acres this park is? I have to design a recreation facility for my Areas & Facilities in Parks and Rec class. Right now we are trying to design a Doggy Disc Golf Park in Golden, Co. I got the info for the dog park I'm just trying to get an idea of how big of land I need. Any info would help! Estimates would be fine, but the real figure would be great.
The answer is found here: http://www.roundlakeareaparkdistrict.org/forms/map.pdf
Let's do at least some basic leg work, please.
The Lake County Forest Preserve has marked the trail starting at the parking lot at Fairfield. For those of you that did not know they are linking the Millennium Trail to Fairfield Park. It runs near the practice basket between 12 &18 towards the swamp. It wraps around the swamp across #12's fairway leading towards #13 basket. It cuts across #9's fairway into the woods. It then crosses #8's fairway towards the creek. They will be clearing some trees cutting thru 8's fairway.
Holes affected.
Practice basket
12
18
13
9
8
THIS SUCKS! :protest:
Wow that really sucks! I wish LCFP had a clue as to how import DG really is to the community, not just on a recreational side but also on an economic scale. Once I have finished my recreation degree I am going to try to start up a conscious group that advocates DG to parks and rec. Hopefully my degree will count for me to be qualified in this field. I am currently proposing a doggy disc golf course for the city of golden. It's where Coors is brewed. It is just a hypothetical situation, but I am learning about the processes and options for funding. Hopefully I can help some way in the future.
Slight thread drift
Right now, Larimer county CO, where ft. collins is located is dealing with a similar battle. The parks dept. is proposing removing the course in Ft. Collins. There was a count done by the local club and on a 70 degree weekend there was something over 500 people that passed through the course. At one point in time there were 95 people that went through hole 9 in just 1HOUR!!!!. the sport is growing and I know it really sucks that most park districts just don't have a clue. Oh well I hope everyone shot the way they wanted to at IOS 1 today.
Once they start the work, please don't take your frustrations out on the guys doing the work. Those guys have no say in what they do, they're just doing their jobs and my oldest brother is one of them. So if you see a dark haired guy who otherwise looks like Bruce or I, say "hi Paul" and you'll really freak him out! ;D
Quote from: UMphreak on April 19, 2008, 10:50:14 AM
Wow that really sucks! I wish LCFP had a clue as to how import DG really is to the community, not just on a recreational side but also on an economic scale. Once I have finished my recreation degree I am going to try to start up a conscious group that advocates DG to parks and rec. Hopefully my degree will count for me to be qualified in this field. I am currently proposing a doggy disc golf course for the city of golden. It's where Coors is brewed. It is just a hypothetical situation, but I am learning about the processes and options for funding. Hopefully I can help some way in the future.
I have a degree in Parks and Recreation, my CPRP certification and over a dozen years experience in parks in recreation administration. In the 90's, I ran a disc golf course in St. Louis County for a municipality. The last year I was there before I moved to Chicago I cleared $20,000+ NET profit from our disc golf course, which was more than we made from many "traditional" parks and recreation activities like softball and day camps, where the gross was higher but the expenses killed us.
Anyway, the Missouri Parks & Recreation Association started a program where you could designate something you thought you were very knowledgeable about, and they provided a list in the membership directory of people who were willing to talk to members about a particular subject. I filled out the form and indicated I could answer questions about disc golf. I provided back-up materials about how profitable disc golf was for us. When the directory came out, there was no disc golf category. I called and asked what happened, and the MPRA Director laughed at me. Seriously, laughed out loud at the notion that disc golf would be a legitimate category for professional parks & recreation administrators to consider.
Over the last several years I've told everybody that would listen that disc golf can be a legitimate parks & recreation activity, but no one is listening. Even the PDGA would not listen to me. So I had a story about successful disc golf operation in a municipal parks & recreation setting, but I couldn't get a story published on it...not even in DGWN! Now it has been several years, and the ship has sailed. The guy who replaced me is not very talented, and his net on disc golf last year was less than $5,000.
Good luck getting somebody in the parks & recreation profession to listen to you. I've given up.
I had a quality meeting today with the Round Lake Area Park District.
The Negative.
#1 tee will be moved slightly.
#7's basket will be moved to the right side. I guess this might be a positve if you are left handed or sick of playing the basket on the left.
#8 will be removed totally because the path is cutting directly thru the middle of the fairway.
#9 tee will be moved.
#14 Tee will be moved slightly.
The positive.
There will be a slightly elevated bridge between 12 & 18 over the swamp.
#8 will be moved somewhere else.
There will be a bridge leading across the creek.
I threw a bunch of stuff out there and hit for the fence. I have no idea what will happen in the future but i'm hoping to make this course the best in Lake County. There is a good possibility that the course will remain exactly how it will be after the changes above and there will be no new holes across the creek.
Here is the summary of what i'm trying to accomplish.
1. Complete removal of the course next spring to allow regrowth.
2. Complete redesign of the course utilizing the woods across the creek.
3. Long & Short CONCRETE Tees.
4. Signs.
5. Purchase of 2nd set of baskets so every hole has 2 baskets.
6. Purchase of 20 sleeves so all 20 holes have 3 pin placements.
7. Pay to play.
Brett thanks for taking the lead on this. It is great that the local disc golfers have someone who takes the initiative to try and make some positive changes to the disc golf scene in Northern Illinois.
Ouch, #7 tee moved to the right? Time to start practicing those forehand shots :)
Quote from: roman on April 28, 2008, 06:57:23 PM
Ouch, #7 tee moved to the right? Time to start practicing those forehand shots :)
Basket not tee
Quote from: Tenny Schimo on April 28, 2008, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: roman on April 28, 2008, 06:57:23 PM
Ouch, #7 tee moved to the right? Time to start practicing those forehand shots :)
Basket not tee
But I like it, more righty anhyzer/flick shots sounds good to me.
Hah hah, at least you knew what I meant.
That is absolutely fantastic news Brett. Even if only a few of the goals were accomplished, what a feat it would be. I'm sure you will be posting work days online if there will be any work to be done by the community. Hopefully we can get out the few disc golfers that are willing to put in some effort to improve the quality of disc golf in Northern Illinois. Really though, that is fantastic news. Good job Brett. You are a great example for the disc golf community.
Hi all so I am new on here and fairfield is my home course. I spend about three days a week there if not more and quit honestly I am disgusted by the complete lack of care and maintnence at our course. Fairfiield has the opportunity to be a premiere disc golf destination and the current condition it is in is shameful (at best) the community and careless golfers are treating the land like crap. I can not even begin to count how many miller lite cans and dirty socks I have seen strewn about the course on a daily basis. I feel like as if the community could care less and the only people that are going to make it better is the golfers. I love the idea of the bridge! We were just talking about how cool that would be if they did something like that. I don't know how I feel about the pay to play. Would the money dump back into maintaining the course or go to the park district for other expenses? I would love to get a crew of caring golfers together this season to do a garbage sweep once in a while.
Quote from: niknakzep1 on May 25, 2008, 10:14:20 PM
Hi all so I am new on here and fairfield is my home course. I spend about three days a week there if not more and quit honestly I am disgusted by the complete lack of care and maintnence at our course. Fairfiield has the opportunity to be a premiere disc golf destination and the current condition it is in is shameful (at best) the community and careless golfers are treating the land like crap. I can not even begin to count how many miller lite cans and dirty socks I have seen strewn about the course on a daily basis. I feel like as if the community could care less and the only people that are going to make it better is the golfers. I love the idea of the bridge! We were just talking about how cool that would be if they did something like that. I don't know how I feel about the pay to play. Would the money dump back into maintaining the course or go to the park district for other expenses? I would love to get a crew of caring golfers together this season to do a garbage sweep once in a while.
I used to log many hours of work at Fairfield. Trash pick up, course maintanance, and painting of baskets. I have lost that desire as well as many others. The tee pads are an ongoing problem and will never be fixed until concrete is in place. Trash is an ongoing problem. Lack of garbage cans and players who don't care where they put their trash. I used to pain the baskets but couldn't keep up. I'd paint over one drawing and the next would pop up right after.
Pay to play would help eliminate those players that are just coming out to walk around and drink beer, litter, & detroy things. I am trying to get that rolling ane encouraging the money to be spent on the park to fund the concrete tees and basket purchase.
Changes that will take place. Not sure when but work is supposed to start soon. See attached document.
*Note*
I had nothing to do with these changes. I will try to influence proper design but my contact that I used to work with has left in the last year. We used to talk several times a year. I have had a hard time developing a relationship with his replacement.
Is there any update on the status of the course while the work is being performed? Should we expect periodic closures or a complete shutdown until all work is completed?
Quote from: jasonc on February 17, 2009, 07:49:50 AM
Is there any update on the status of the course while the work is being performed? Should we expect periodic closures or a complete shutdown until all work is completed?
That was not mentioned. The LCFPD is in charge of all the work. The RLPD was not sure when they were going to get started but it's supposed to be in the near future. I'm sure they'll be updates at the course if it's closed.
thanks for the update. all of the accurate info posted here is much appreciated by the frequent flyers at fairfield! ;D
#1 will obviously be alot easier with that much distance taken off, but I still think it won't be that bad of a hole because of the fast green caused by the downward slope by the basket. Maybe if we can move that basket back towards that slope a little bit it might be even tougher.
#8 I have no clue what the plan is there, seems like alot of rough to chop down.
#14 will probbaly be significantly easier with 25 feet chopped off.
#9 might actually be harder if its a true anhyzer hole.
#12/#18 look like they'll have possible Trail traffic to contend with.
13 scares me a little bit... you can't see the basket when throwing, you probably won't be able to see the trail or any bikers near the basket or coming up the hill. That could make quite the interesting hole. Thankfully you're not chucking the disc as hard for that one.
I just talked to the RLPD about the changes. They want me to go mark where the holes should go. I just have to avoid the trail. I am going to go try to make the best holes possible.
Do you think this will effect IOS at Fairfield this year?
Quote from: discpro99 on February 18, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
Do you think this will effect IOS at Fairfield this year?
I know that Brett will do every thing in his power (that is legal) to make sure that the IOS event at Fairfield goes on without a hitch. Having said that there are some things out of our power and he is dealing with both the local park district and the county preserve so that makes it more complicated. Stay tuned...
The work will be completed by then and it should have no effect on this date.
All right disc golfers, I had a solid meeting with the Executive Director and the Supt. of Parks and Facilities. They are supportive of disc golf and want to see the course improved. See below.
Short term:
There will be 18 garbage cans added to the course this spring. They are going to stencil a hole # on each can and place it near a tee. Please help pick up garbage! He said it will be much easier for his workers to access the back of the park now by using the path.
They are going to bring 1 bench and put it on the course. They will see how it does out there. If it's treated properly they will add another next year. These benches are $300
The LCFPD is 90% complete with planning for the trail. They are finalizing some of the last plans. Work will begin in the next couple of months. Holes 1, 9, & 14 will be altered slightly. Hole #8 will be totally redesigned.
The RLAPD has a new program. DISContinuum has had a good relatoinship with the park district for a few years. We were recoginized with a plaque several years ago. They have started a new friends type program. I am going to get DISContinuum signed up with this program. He said this helps with the relationship with the park district board. See Below.
Long Term:
The Executive Director and Supt. of Parks and Rec said once the trail is complete there is a possibility of expansion across the creek. They are supportive of a redesign using that land. They realize the course would improve greatly with the use of the land across the creek. They did not 100% confirm but are supportive of the idea. They even looked at purchasing the property north of the park for expansion. It was for sale with a 3 million price tag. The RLAPD did not buy it and is no longer for sale.
They want members of DISContinuum to come to the board meeting in Jan 2010 and present a proposal for course improvements. This is when the board starts financial planning for the year. #1 on the list is money for tee pads. He wants to do concrete. Cost factors include a permit for the work, concrete, and labor. THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE! He plans to get quotes on tee pads. It will be up to the board to decide if they want to support in financially.
I mentioned pay to play but they do not have the staff to monitor for usage and don't want to staff.
They are very pleased so see the course get so much use and are even more excited to bring the young male demographic onto their property. This is one of the toughest demographics to reach.
My thoughts:
I am usually not very optomistic about this kind of thing. The Exec. Director wants to do this right and thinks it CAN happen. I actually felt pretty good after leaving the meeting. I gave them my vision. I believe this and stated this. "I believe with the use of the property across the creek and a total redesign of the course, Fairfield could be one of the best Chicagoland disc golf course."
Here is what I gave them.
1. Pull baskets.
Close course Spring 2010.
2. Reeseed and fix bare areas formed around tees.
3. Redesign of course.
Summer of 2010
4. Install long cement tees.
5. Install short cement tees.
6. Install tee signs.
7. Install all 36 anchors.
8. Install Gold baskets.
9. Install Silver baskets.
What are you going to do to help make this happen? Every time you drink a beer and throw it in the garbage can, you hurt the cause. Every time you smoke dope out there, you hurt the cause. Every time you walk by trash and do not pick it up, you hurt the cause. Every time you see someone out there screwing around, vandalizing, littering, etc.. and say nothing, you hurt the cause. Do not give park districts any more negative ammunition.
Only time will tell what will happen. I hope to have a great course within 2 miles of my house someday.
Adrian called today and said the garbage cans with #'s have been delivered.
Got out to Fairfield last night. There are many spots in rough shape.
This course should not be in the ground right now. It's taking a beating with all the play it's gotten over the last week.
#5's tee is pretty much not playable now. Huge ruts.
#7-Fairway is super muddy with some standing water. Around the basket is super muddy.
#8- Tee is super muddy.
#12/18-- Muddy crossing to the south of the swamp.
Tons of standing water between 14 & 15.
I did not get back to play 15,16,17.
I'm starting to think that area courses should close when the ground is saturated with water in order to save the course for better play when its dry.
So are we hoping that Fairfield is going to be turned into a nice 36-hole course? Does anyone know if Adrian will be there tomorrow and what time?
Quote from: StrikerME02 on April 24, 2009, 08:12:25 PM
So are we hoping that Fairfield is going to be turned into a nice 36-hole course? Does anyone know if Adrian will be there tomorrow and what time?
There is not enough room for 36 holes at Fairfield. Adrian will not be at the park.
Played here yesterday and when I got to 14a I didn't see a basket. Upon further investigation I noticed someone had ripped up the basket and drug it about 100 feet past the hole and tried hiding it under some shrubs. We drug it back to the hole and did our best at making it secure but its only temporary. I dont know if someone was trying to steal it or just being an asshole but its something we need to take care of before its gone for good.
Quote from: discpro99 on July 02, 2009, 09:16:56 AM
Played here yesterday and when I got to 14a I didn't see a basket. Upon further investigation I noticed someone had ripped up the basket and drug it about 100 feet past the hole and tried hiding it under some shrubs. We drug it back to the hole and did our best at making it secure but its only temporary. I dont know if someone was trying to steal it or just being an asshole but its something we need to take care of before its gone for good.
Justin,
What time did you play the hole? It was there and secure around 12:45pm yesterday.
I will contact the park district about the issue.
Brett
Right before dark about 8pm or so...
And if you could mention the fallen tree around 14's basket too that would be sweet. Im sure you saw it if you were there wednesday morning. Good thing it missed the basket when it came down
I was there a few minutes ago, and 14A was in the ground over there it looked like now. But it was so overgrown that we couldn't play it much.
i lost a xcal on 11 and a dx roc on 14a my name and # r on them
i love playing fairfield and hope the park gets the updates and expands to 36 holes. it would be a great course. it is a great place to play
I got fed up with the tall grass on 14A (I couldn't even throw a putter on it anymore cause I'm not tall enough to clear the grass) so I went out and bought a machete today and went to town on that hole. It's now a nice clear straight shot again.
nice one dude..... finally someone trimmed it
Quote from: roman on July 24, 2009, 06:23:51 PM
I got fed up with the tall grass on 14A (I couldn't even throw a putter on it anymore cause I'm not tall enough to clear the grass) so I went out and bought a machete today and went to town on that hole. It's now a nice clear straight shot again.
Lol. It would have been interesting to see that.
any news on updates or additions on fairfield park for 2010 :)
Quote from: destroyer on March 01, 2010, 09:18:22 AM
any news on updates or additions on fairfield park for 2010 :)
I have not been in contact with the park district this winter. They said they would let me know when the forest preserve was ready to start constructing the path. It's still in the works but when it starts i'm not sure.
I had some bad luck today. I'll be on the DL with a back injury.
The good news is I just checked my e-mail. Fairfield will be getting a total renovation this summer. The parking lot is going to be paved and the forest preserve trail is going to be installed thru the park. There will be a bridge across the swamp and creek. There will be a total redesign of the course with the use of the woods across the creek. Long and short concrete tees. The old bulletin board will be replaced with a new one. The current baskets will be used as the short pin placements. Blue Mach 5's with number plates will be installed for the long placements. That's right! 2 pins in at all times. Tee signs will be installed at both sets of tees. There will be a bench installed on every hole. Wow! The plan is to have all work completed by October 1st.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 01, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
I had some bad luck today. I'll be on the DL with a back injury.
The good news is I just checked my e-mail. Fairfield will be getting a total renovation this summer. The parking lot is going to be paved and the forest preserve trail is going to be installed thru the park. There will be a bridge across the swamp and creek. There will be a total redesign of the course with the use of the woods across the creek. Long and short concrete tees. The old bulletin board will be replaced with a new one. The current baskets will be used as the short pin placements. Blue Mach 5's with number plates will be installed for the long placements. That's right! 2 pins in at all times. Tee signs will be installed at both sets of tees. There will be a bench installed on every hole. Wow! The plan is to have all work completed by October 1st.
It is still April Fools Day, right??? ???
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 01, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
I had some bad luck today. I'll be on the DL with a back injury.
The good news is I just checked my e-mail. Fairfield will be getting a total renovation this summer. The parking lot is going to be paved and the forest preserve trail is going to be installed thru the park. There will be a bridge across the swamp and creek. There will be a total redesign of the course with the use of the woods across the creek. Long and short concrete tees. The old bulletin board will be replaced with a new one. The current baskets will be used as the short pin placements. Blue Mach 5's with number plates will be installed for the long placements. That's right! 2 pins in at all times. Tee signs will be installed at both sets of tees. There will be a bench installed on every hole. Wow! The plan is to have all work completed by October 1st.
U didn't do something dumb like jump on a basket after you missed a putt did you? That would most certainly beat what Climo did to his hand! lol
I am on the DL but the course information was a little April Fool's action. I did send out an e-mail to RLAPD to find out about the status of the path.
bad timing with the nice weather right around the corner. hope you heal quickly!
i've been hoping for some good news on the proposed renovations out there.
sweet ideas CEValkrie. i like the way u think even though that was an aprilfools joke ;D
The LCFPD is starting construction of the trail on August 16th. I am meeting with the park district in the next couple of days. Hole #1 tee is going to be shortened. #9 is being moved. Hole #8 is going to be removed.
Brett,
As always, thank you for staying in touch with the local parks departments.
Do you know if the park be completely shut down during construction or will they simply do intermittent closures while the crews are working?
The course will be open for play during construction.
Construction phase of path.
What this means for the course.
#1 will be moved shorter.
#8 (most affected) will be moved. 130 to 150ft hole playing down the small walking path. A new walking path will allow access to new #9 tee.
#9 will be moved into the grass area north of where it currently is. There will be a route to the left now.
#14 will be moved shorter and to the left.
The LCFPD will be setting up for construction next week. Actual work will begin on the 16th. The small parking lot will have a fence around it. The longer narrower parking lot will still be open for disc golfers. The path itself will have a fenced area around it which is 50ft wide from the center of the white markers. There will be several openings near 12/18 and 13/14 which will allow access to golfers who many throw in the fenced off areas or have to cross fairways to get to the next hole.
Give some thumbs up to the RLAPD. They put their foot down to several of the LCFPD options of where the path would go. They wanted to run the path down across the north side affecting 8 holes. This was the most cost effective for them and the PD said absolutely not. They also wanted to close play during construction. The park district said absolutely not. Thank the PD when you get a chance.
Where the path crosses the swamp they will be running drainage and building a berm. This will allow a nice fairway passage on 12. The path will run thru the current tee of #9 across the creek. There will be access to the land across the creek. Construction will not be done until this winter at the earliest.
The park district has set aside some money for future improvements. The executive director took a new job and they are in the current process of hiring a new one. Hopefully it's a disc golfer!
Brett,
Thanks for the update. Is this going to have an effect on IOS #9 planned for October 16-17?
Quote from: jasonc on August 05, 2010, 10:15:10 AM
Brett,
Thanks for the update. Is this going to have an effect on IOS #9 planned for October 16-17?
No, the course will be open for play.
Thanks for the info, Brett. It's good have a good relationship with the PD.
The temporary bridge on the 12/18 swamp is sweet! The course is still playable, but it's a little messy out there. All of the baskets are still in the ground.
Man, round lake was way different. Hole 8 was so sad to see. Its deceivingly open now. #9 is so much more open and you have so much more choice for how to attack it. Who is the one re-designing the holes that are being moved?
Quote from: smyith on August 27, 2010, 06:47:23 AM
Man, round lake was way different. Hole 8 was so sad to see. Its deceivingly open now. #9 is so much more open and you have so much more choice for how to attack it. Who is the one re-designing the holes that are being moved?
The re-designed holes are a temorary fix to keep the course playable without cutting unessicarily. The pd has alotted some money for course improvment in the future. Once the path is done i'll be meeting with them again.
Brett,
Can you clarify the rumors in regards to the possibility of concrete tee pads being installed as part of the current project? As much as I would love to see concrete tees at Fairfield, I won't believe it until I see it.
Any chance of re doing the whole course rather than just trying to patch it up around the path?
Which holes were changed out there? I think the last time I was there they had staked out the path's layout, that must have been 2 months ago.
I cannot gurantee anything. I have talked to the main man in charge several times over the last year and walked the course with him several weeks ago. We discussed the changes to #1, 8, 9, & 13. These are hopefully temporary. See below.
There is currently $5000 in the budget for the course with more to come next year.
I talked with him for at least and hour about things i'd like to do at the course. They are interested in improving the course. I need to schedule it but I convinced him to come out with me to Silver Lake to see what a course looks like with concrete tees and signs. Once the path is completed he said we'd talk more about expansion across the creek. If I have my way the total course will be totally redesigned.
hole 1 teepad has been moved farther forward. old teepad still playable. hole 8 has been moved. interesting little shot tight fairway. Hole #9 tee has been moved farther left, new fairway. hole #14 has been moved forward and against the treeline to the left. the orange fencing marking out the path is marked out and in. changes the course alot. hole 13s basket is only 10'-15' away from it. so #8 is the only basket moved so far.
the new tee pads on 1, 8, 9, & 14 are a horrible mix of sand and crushed limestone.
I am absolutely amazed I spent an hour of my time volunteering to help out there. The changes to 1, 8, 9, & 14 are supposed to be temporary. I am just amazed that I wasted 30 minutes discussing #8. It was supposed to be a short 150 to 175 shot down a tight path. I specifically said do not cut anything outside the tight path. I walked the head guy down the path marking what to cut and not cut. Now a tuck can drive thru there. Unreal! I can't believe they cut a path thru the woods from 13 to 14. Hoefully this will be a respectable course a year from now but this course just conintues to get worse.
Maybe we are experiencing some growing pains during construction and they are planning to plant some trees to create a tighter fairway on #8? :unsure:
I thought the new 8 was going to be better than another easy deuce.
Quote from: jasonc on September 07, 2010, 06:45:42 AM
Maybe we are experiencing some growing pains during construction and they are planning to plant some trees to create a tighter fairway on #8? :unsure:
I thought the new 8 was going to be better than another easy deuce.
8 was supposed to be nothing more than a temporary filler hole. It would have played down the very tight path. It would have been a pretty tough 150-175ft hole.
I just can't believe they cut that large of path after I stressed do not cut more than a narrow walking path.
should we enlist some tree huggers to stand guard on the remaining trees? :hippy2:
i dont think #8 was too overdone. is it going to hurt your planned (hoped) redesigns?
Ms. Smyith,
I sincerely apologize for making an attempt to have a little fun with the topic of course improvements at Fairfield. Apparently, I missed the warning at the beginning of this thread in regards to your "No Jokes Allowed Policy". I was also misled into this great game of disc golf under the assumption that the most fun wins. Thank you for setting a good example for the entire disc golf community at large. I'm not sure this game would be as much fun without a Debbie Downer like you.
I hope you are able to accept my apology. I will make every attempt to keep my posts this thread as serious as possible from this point forward.
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I have not been to Fairfield since the work began and the changes were made. I cannot comment on them. However, I can comment on the discourse. It seemed that all was going well and concerned playerrs were discussing the course with all the usual passion. However, the comment on the stupidity of the workers altered the course of the conversation. that commentator had previously offered inciteful comments on the new holes However, this is a pubic board. Those same "stupid" people have access to the board. Whenever, I am dealing with a municipal or governmental monolith there will always be beaurocrats and staff members who handle the day to day business. The better I treat them the better treatment I will get from them. There are many times when I am frustrated or otherwise pissed off. If I vent my steam I feel better for a minute or two. However, I may have poisoned my relationship with that staff person and will have made a hard job harder. There is no benefit in insulting them.
Policymakers, elected officials are by definition, idiots. Its ok to say that [insert elected official here] is a sniveling [insert nasty label here]. :puke: Our great nation is made greater when we work to remove them from office. Not long ago Brett reminded us that one of the lovely Lake County officials who was opposing disc golf was up for re election. However, hired help, park workers, cops, clerks, etc...they can be your friends or enemies depending on how you treat them. Regardless of their words or actions, they are never stupid. They are always nice people doing their job. :love4: Whenever I am on a course and see somebody mowing the grass I always make a point to look at them and say, "Thanks." If I said, "Hey Dumb@#^*" he/she would probably run over my bag.
Dave,
I also work with various government offices on a daily basis for the past 8 years and I agree with you 100%. While seeing most of our local municipalities struggle with budget issues, I am mildly surprised that our local courses have not been changed over to a Pay to Play system.
The negative comments should not be posted publicly. No good can come from that. From my relatively short time (6-7 years or so) enjoying this great sport, I have certainly learned that some people are only looking to make this sport and the facilities better while others simply stand on the sidelines and whine about the perceived problems. That energy can and should be used for positive contributions to the game. :dontknow:
I will probably never be in a position to contribute a ton of hours or dollars to make a dent towards improving the game, but I will always focus on the positive aspects of disc golf.
Quote from: smyith on September 07, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
i dont think #8 was too overdone. is it going to hurt your planned (hoped) redesigns?
New #8 is a really dumb hole. It' not even worth talking about.
Had I known they were going to clear an entire new fairway I would have definitely looked at some different ideas. Total eliminating a hole and having a tunnel playing to #9 may have been a decent hole. There are a lot of options. Unfortunately what is done is done. The temporary fix is now something more permanent. If a redesign does happen that area has definitely been altered.
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Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 08, 2010, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: smyith on September 07, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
i dont think #8 was too overdone. is it going to hurt your planned (hoped) redesigns?
New #8 is a really dumb hole. It' not even worth talking about.
Had I known they were going to clear an entire new fairway I would have definitely looked at some different ideas. Total eliminating a hole and having a tunnel playing to #9 may have been a decent hole. There are a lot of options. Unfortunately what is done is done. The temporary fix is now something more permanent. If a redesign does happen that area has definitely been altered.
ya #8 has been a dumb hole for as long as i can remember. even back when it was that really short shot at the top of the hill. if they let you go across the creek, wouldn't you be able to make that tunnel shot work for #9? it would just need a lil more clearing out to make it work. how deep does the park go across the stream? i walked around over there the other day and there could be some stellar holes. is there any kind of town meeting for that? when i lived in the Twin Cities i had a chance to talk at length with the people at GGGT. i told them about our area and the struggles we've had and they told me how they over came those same struggles several years ago. essentially, any town meeting involving disc golf they have everyone in the local community show up (in their "sunday best") and then stand for the duration of the meeting about disc golf topic. they also take any small victory they can get. thats why there are so many 9, 12, and 15 hole courses up there. if they only manage to get approval for 12 holes then they go with it and after a few years try to push for it to be expanded. once again using the same forumla of getting the community to visual show support in front of the decision makers. if we filled a town hall with disc golfers all dressed nice (no1 drunk or high...it can wait a hour longer) i bet we could get some more advancements around here.
i want you to point out to me what i have said to start any fights/arguments with you or anybody on here? i know there isn't any so don't bother using your precious free time time to fabricate some.
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I would have done so, but you just edited your post about our friends that work for the Round Lake Park District.
From my point of view, your comments about RLAPD were negative and unnecessary. You obviously agreed when you went back to remove the negativity. Thank you for proving my point. I will consider this issue closed. Have a nice day.
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Fairfield had very little damage from the strom. The course is in very good playable condition.
I had a meeting scheduled with the RLAPD on Wednesday that is moved to Thursday. I'm meeting with the new Executive Director and the Superintendent of Parks & Facilities This will be my final attempt to make improvements to this course. I've been trying for over 5 years. If i'm not successful this time i'm throwing in the towel. Wish me luck.
Good Luck!!!! I hope the new Executive Director is receptive to your ideas :)
Quote from: jasonc on September 27, 2011, 06:52:31 AM
Good Luck!!!! I hope the new Executive Director is receptive to your ideas :)
Thanks Jason. I spent some quite a bit time putting together an outline of what I would like to see accomplished.I also have quite a few pictures on my laptop of what a course should look like. I had meetings all day yesterday and spent a few hours adding info to it. DGCR is a great tool. I gave them a link to the course on DG Course Review and asked them to read the reviews prior to the meeting. I also used the info to compare South, West, and North suburbs. It's amazing how bad the 18 hole courses in the north suburbs are. 1 of the 5 have proper tees. 3 of the 5 have proper tee signs. The west and the south have 8-9 courses and most have good tee pads. I'm hoping they get the idea of what needs to be done out there. I'm giving this one more chance. It's do or die time. Carrie and I looked at houses for sale in the subdivision across from the park on Saturday. If this happens there is a house I want to purchase. If not I'll be looking elsewhere.
Excited for this meeting. They've added a 3rd person to the meeting. He's the Supt. of Recreation. I'll fill everyone in tonight with the details.
good luck
our "disc golf thoughts " will be with you
Had an excellent meeting today. The Executive Director is fairly young and seems pretty interested in the project. I think they "get" that the course has potential and needs improvement. He noticed the improvments to the tees and signs at Crystal Lake and what a big difference it makes. Prior to the meeting I sent them a link to Fairfield and and asked them to read all the reviews at disc golf course reveiw. There was a lot of information exchanged between the 4 of us. The meeting lasted 1hr 45min.
They are going to meet together and discuss the project. The first step in the project is bringing in an experienced course designer which I reccommended. Once the layout is complete they are going to get estimates on cement tee pads and landscaping. At this point there is no gurantee on any changes but I did get a good vibe from the meeting. If this happens it's not going to happen quickly. This may take a few years to get going and as usual money is an issue. Tom might be able to add some more.
On a side note there is a possible long term project for the future which includes another disc golf course in Round Lake.
We are going to try to organize a weekly indoor disc golf open gym this winter at the sports center. This would take place on the indoor soccer field. Here is a link. You can get an idea of what the soccer field looks like.
http://www.rlapd.org/facilities-sports-center.cfm
Thanks for your work Brett! It's very much appreciated. Sounds promising.
Thanks for all the wok Brett.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 29, 2011, 06:02:10 PM
Had an excellent meeting today. The Executive Director is fairly young and seems pretty interested in the project. I think they "get" that the course has potential and needs improvement. He noticed the improvments to the tees and signs at Crystal Lake and what a big difference it makes. Prior to the meeting I sent them a link to Fairfield and and asked them to read all the reviews at disc golf course reveiw. There was a lot of information exchanged between the 4 of us. The meeting lasted 1hr 45min.
They are going to meet together and discuss the project. The first step in the project is bringing in an experienced course designer which I reccommended. Once the layout is complete they are going to get estimates on cement tee pads and landscaping. At this point there is no gurantee on any changes but I did get a good vibe from the meeting. If this happens it's not going to happen quickly. This may take a few years to get going and as usual money is an issue. Tom might be able to add some more.
On a side note there is a possible long term project for the future which includes another disc golf course in Round Lake.
We are going to try to organize a weekly indoor disc golf open gym this winter at the sports center. This would take place on the indoor soccer field. Here is a link. You can get an idea of what the soccer field looks like.
http://www.rlapd.org/facilities-sports-center.cfm
Brett did a great job at the meeting yesterday, presenting a lot of great ideas and representing disc golf in Illinois. It does seem like Round Lake is interested in making some major improvements and upgrades to their disc golf facilities. The two reps from Round Lake were definitely interested, and asked the right questions. I am not sure how quick things will move, but it does look like there will be some major upgrades and maybe even an opportunity for a new course.
One thing that I took away from the meeting is that disc golf is important to them and that they want it to play a larger role in their park system. It would be a combination of course improvements, park district activities, and even getting involved with other park districts.
Brett & Tom,
THANK YOU!!! :hello2:
:wav:
I'm glad Tom was able to make it. He added a lot of good information and it was good to have someone keep me on track.
Some more info. Fairfield will never be a pay to play and it cannot be sold. It's open space and has to be free to all.
Indoor gym for disc golf use? Brett, if you make this happen I am buying you a beer every time I go there.
Chuck Kennedy is coming into town on October 18th to meet with the Round Lake Park District. He has an afternoon meeting with them. if all goes well he'll be out designing a course on the 19th. I'll make sure this is clear. From there the park district is going to get bids on the concrete and landscaping work then decide if they are going to go forward with the project. If they go forward this could be a 2-3 year project that needs to be budgeted.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 07, 2011, 09:03:40 AM
Chuck Kennedy is coming into town on October 18th to meet with the Round Lake Park District. He has an afternoon meeting with them. if all goes well he'll be out designing a course on the 19th. I'll make sure this is clear. From there the park district is going to get bids on the concrete and landscaping work then decide if they are going to go forward with the project. If they go forward this could be a 2-3 year project that needs to be budgeted.
This sounds great. However,would this mean that Fairfield would close over that period or just during some of the constructions phases? Too bad he can't be in town on the 16th to play IOS#5.
Quote from: Chainmeister on October 07, 2011, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 07, 2011, 09:03:40 AM
Chuck Kennedy is coming into town on October 18th to meet with the Round Lake Park District. He has an afternoon meeting with them. if all goes well he'll be out designing a course on the 19th. I'll make sure this is clear. From there the park district is going to get bids on the concrete and landscaping work then decide if they are going to go forward with the project. If they go forward this could be a 2-3 year project that needs to be budgeted.
This sounds great. However,would this mean that Fairfield would close over that period or just during some of the constructions phases? Too bad he can't be in town on the 16th to play IOS#5.
If they to go forward with the project the course would be closed.
Good to hear that the RLAPD is moving in the right direction!!!
I would certainly be bummed about losing the home course for a while. However, I know I am one of many that would appreciate a re-designed course with input from Brett and Chuck.
Thanks again for all of your hard work Brett!!! :D
Quote from: jasonc on October 07, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
Good to hear that the RLAPD is moving in the right direction!!!
I would certainly be bummed about losing the home course for a while. However, I know I am one of many that would appreciate a re-designed course with input from Brett and Chuck.
Thanks again for all of your hard work Brett!!! :D
I appreciate it. I'm excited to see what happens next week. If this goes through it will sucks when the course is closed but it will be worth it.
Chuck came into town this morning and checked out all the land avaliable at FF. I was not there but he said he met with the park district about an hour. I talked to him tonight out at the course. He said the meeting went very good and also got a good vibe that things are going to move forwad. He'll be back this winter walking the course and mapping out a new one. He filled me on in some initial thoughts and I like what he had to say.
Great news!!! :thumbsup:
Here is a thread Chuck posted on DGCR
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46955
Brett is a disc golf mover and shaker. Thanks for all the hard work Brett.
Thank you! Thank you! Thankyouverymuch!!! :hello2:
I just got a funny feelng in my tummy.
Chuck was in town a few times. He's worked on the map. This is the map of the Championship 18. There are going to be more holes using the old holes 15,16, & 17 and probably another by old #7 area. This is a work in progress.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on January 05, 2012, 09:18:39 PM
Chuck was in town a few times. He's worked on the map. This is the map of the Championship 18. There are going to be more holes using the old holes 15,16, & 17 and probably another by old #7 area. This is a work in progress.
Looks extremely exciting!. Great JOB BRETT.
:o Looks great so far!!!!
Pretty interesting use of the land. Good signs will be needed. Some of the gold/white separation is due to a second basket and some of the separation is due to a second tee. Players may get confused if they don't know the course. Those back long wooded holes look to be very challenging. I like the balance of woods, open, left and right. The white course looks to be plenty challenging and the gold a true beast. Can't wait.
Quote from: Chainmeister on January 06, 2012, 07:18:29 AM
Good signs will be needed.
No doubt. The proposal included the best signs in the game. Keeping fingers crossed.
Question all of gold holes are longer than the white except 18? Reason ???
Thanks
Brett,
We are in the final phase of the design portion of the project. Chuck has
a fantastic rendition layout of the new course. He will be coming back to
the site this April to do the final layout and staking of the site so that
my staff can start the clearing of the fairways through the woods.
The clearing and setting up of the new layout will obviously all depend on
the weather and the other projects that my staff are involved with. We
hope to be able to do most of the big clearing this spring but as you know
the weather will play a large part in that.
When we do get the major clearing complete it will take some time to
complete the hand work of cleaning up and installing the wood chips in the
fairways of the wooded areas. After that is when we hope to start the "T"
areas and start to schedule the moving of the current baskets to their new
location.
As you can see this is going to be a lengthy process. I am hoping to have
most of these parts completed late this summer in order to move the current
baskets either next winter or sooner if all goes well.
Thanks again,
Jeff Lurquin,
Parks and Buildings Services Director
Round Lake Area Park District
First I'd like to say thanks to Brett for all the work that you're put in at the course and with the park district!
Second, I'd like to say woo hoo!
And third I will add that I would love to add an IOS leg at Fairfield for fall of 2012 but if we need to wait until 2013 it will be for a great reason!
Quote from: Jon Brakel on March 20, 2012, 10:19:45 AM
First I'd like to say thanks to Brett for all the work that you're put in at the course and with the park district!
Second, I'd like to say woo hoo!
And third I will add that I would love to add an IOS leg at Fairfield for fall of 2012 but if we need to wait until 2013 it will be for a great reason!
Ditto. Do we want to consider having the club tournament when Chuck is in town and giving him a membership?
That proposed layout looks awesome, great job Brett.
Its a bummer how the park district representative kept saying "my staff", brings us back to what we were talking about last night at leagues. I would love to help do some of the grunt work to help get this course in the ground, but it seems the park district is against that.
Anyway, Brett, it seems you have done everything possible from your end to make this a sweet, championship caliber 18 hole course. Hope everything goes through smoothly. If there is ever anything I can help with, please let me know.
I noticed this thread on DGCR about 2 months ago and have been checking it weekly to see if its going to happen, this is pretty sweet! Good job Brett and to all those involved with this, it looks like a respectable championship course is on its way to the LC. ;D
I met with Chuck last night. Give a big thanks to Chuck. He's been out there helping Chuck several times. He's marked the trees that need to be cleared. He'lll be out there again today to finalize the layout.
The park district is startng work next week. The have rented a brush hog for the week.
The course is planned in stages. Stage 1 included getting the baskets moved to the 18 hole layout. The tees will remain natural. Phase 2 plan is to get the 2nd set of baskets. Phase 3 will include installatoin of cement tees. Final adjustments will be made if need be.
Once it's all said and done there will be the Squaw Creek Championship 18. There will be 6 bonus holes with some of them being in wet areas. They might not be playable year round.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 03, 2012, 07:07:30 AM
I met with Chuck last night. Give a big thanks to Chuck. He's been out there helping Chuck several times. He's marked the trees that need to be cleared. He'lll be out there again today to finalize the layout.
The park district is startng work next week. The have rented a brush hog for the week.
The course is planned in stages. Stage 1 included getting the baskets moved to the 18 hole layout. The tees will remain natural. Phase 2 plan is to get the 2nd set of baskets. Phase 3 will include installatoin of cement tees. Final adjustments will be made if need be.
Once it's all said and done there will be the Squaw Creek Championship 18. There will be 6 bonus holes with some of them being in wet areas. They might not be playable year round.
This is great news. Thanks Brett, Chuck and Round Lake PD. Does this mean Fairfield will be playable in the new layout as soon as stage 1 is done? I know work is planed soon. Does that mean State 1 will be done soon? I assume tee signs will be installed as part of stage 3. Is that correct?
I'm not sure how quickly they are going to be able to get the phase 1 done. When it's ready they are going to move all 20 baskets making a playable 18. It will have natural tees and no signs. The plan is for tee signs but that may take a while.
We can probably get together as a club and make some temporary signs like we do for tournaments - if the park district is okay with that.
This is pretty awesome news!
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 03, 2012, 07:07:30 AM
I met with Chuck last night. Give a big thanks to Chuck. He's been out there helping Chuck several times. He's marked the trees that need to be cleared. He'lll be out there again today to finalize the layout.
The park district is startng work next week. The have rented a brush hog for the week.
The course is planned in stages. Stage 1 included getting the baskets moved to the 18 hole layout. The tees will remain natural. Phase 2 plan is to get the 2nd set of baskets. Phase 3 will include installatoin of cement tees. Final adjustments will be made if need be.
Once it's all said and done there will be the Squaw Creek Championship 18. There will be 6 bonus holes with some of them being in wet areas. They might not be playable year round.
Glad to hear the project is moving in the right direction. ;D
I understand Chuck Kennedy has been involved here, but who is the other Chuck that has been helping out?
I am also available to help out with grunt work if needed.
Quote from: roman on April 03, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
We can probably get together as a club and make some temporary signs like we do for tournaments - if the park district is okay with that.
I work in a print shop and can probably help out with this. Laminated 90# paper stapled to a large paint stirrer should work in the short term. Let me know.
Sorry about that post Jason. I was in a hurry and muti tasking during the game. Matt Cook has been helping Chuck out.
Those temporary tee signs would be awesome and will be needed. As time comes I'll hit you up on that.
Thanks for the clarification.
Let me know if I can help out in any way.
I talked to Chuck last night. He walked the course with the park district Wednesday. They are going to start removing ground waste on the wooded hole fairways to clear way for the brush hog. They are rentng the brush hog but it may take weeks to get it. True clearing of the fairways should be taking place in the next couple of monthes.
There are 2 things that Imay be needed.
1. BASKETS-- The park district has a budget planned to get this course completed over the next couple of years. The budget includes design/clearing, baskets, tee pads, landscaping, & tee signs. There may be a small pavillion in the future as well. To get all baskets in sooner Chuck had a really good idea. The club would purchase the baskets now so they would be in the ground. This would allow the course to be fullly playable to the gold and white positions, bonus holes, and practice basket. This gives time before concrete is poured. The course could be slightly altered if need be. This would be an interest free loan to the park district that would be paid back. The club has a pretty good surplus right now and could pay for quite a few baskets. I'd need help raisng the funds for the rest of the baskets. All money raised would be paid back to those donating. If this deal is done I'm personally giving enough money for 1 basket.
2. SIGNAGE-- When the baskets are moved to the new pin positions it's going to be very diffcult to navigate. The tee pads are going to be natural at first. If anyone has the skill to make detailed hole maps we need volunteers. I'd love to get temporary tee signs for every tee pad and next tee signs to every hole.
Tasty!
That looks incredible! Great job, I cant wait to try it out!
Looks nice! I was trying to play it in my head and I was curios about white 16/gold 17. Do you think some RH-BH players might hyzer out into the tee area for 17/18? I'm thinking that's an uphill shot from 16/17 tee. More likely to see a hyzer out when throwing uphill. 17/18 tee might be farther away than I think or some other terrain or design has mitigated the probability but I was curious.
It would have to be quite a shank, but it's possible. The tee for 17/18 is only about 150-200 feet out but almost straight up and left. You'd have to really sky a disc out or slip it way early to get that much movement to the left when going uphill.
Quote from: roman on May 24, 2012, 02:09:24 PM
It would have to be quite a shank, but it's possible. The tee for 17/18 is only about 150-200 feet out but almost straight up and left. You'd have to really sky a disc out or slip it way early to get that much movement to the left when going uphill.
200 feet of separation seems like it would be enough.
Looks like there's a nice 22 hole tournament course there too.
I don't think there will be a conflict with 16/17 and 17/18 tee. There is a pretty large buffer area.
Bruce--That is the great thing about this layout. There are going to be a ton of options to play. There is a 9 hole loop, 12 hole loop, white, gold, mix. There is a monster layout which could play 24 holes when dry. There are plans for 2 more holes playng down in the Old #7 area. Those are going to be 2 more bonus holes that may be wet/muddy during portions of the year. It may take another year to get those in the ground. They are not in the phase 1 plans.
Thanks Brett, I was just having problems figuring out how big the buffer area was.
The layout looks fantastic!
I hope they included plans to pull some of the flood-prone holes for erosion control during the spring. Would be nice to seed some grass and have it actually remain grass without being trampled up in the spring. Maybe instead of pulling the pins we can set up some logs or temporary bridges for walking areas to keep people from going through mud.
SO I HAVE BEEN OUT TO THE COURSE TWICE IN THE LAST WEEK AND I AM SHOCKED AT HOW MUCH THE PARK DISTRICT HAS DONE TO CLEAR THE NEW COURSE. THE PROGRESS LOOKS REAL GOOD ALMOST ALL THE HOLES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK ARE CLEARED OUT AND THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE HOLES ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE COURSE CLEARED TO. LOOKING FORWARD TO A SICK COURSE IN THE FUTURE!!!!!!
is there a rough date for when this will be finished?
I know that not all of the trees have been cleared out yet, I was just wondering.
Thanks
Last I heard, expected completion date is Spring--Summer 2013.
Is that a date for total completion? (in other words, will any of the new layout be playable before then?)
There really isn't a date for completion. Things will get done as the RLAPD does them. It's not a surprise for me but it's still a bummer.
As usual they say they have too much work to complete the project this summer. They are supposed to rent the machine to do final clearing this fall. Baskets are supposed to be moved early spring 2013. Who knows when the tee pads will be done. I wouldn't expect that much before fall of 2013 but I wouldn't be surprised to see it move in to 2014.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on July 15, 2012, 01:41:35 PM
There really isn't a date for completion. Things will get done as the RLAPD does them. It's not a surprise for me but it's still a bummer.
As usual they say they have too much work to complete the project this summer. They are supposed to rent the machine to do final clearing this fall. Baskets are supposed to be moved early spring 2013. Who knows when the tee pads will be done. I wouldn't expect that much before fall of 2013 but I wouldn't be surprised to see it move in to 2014.
That is a bummer. I am still willing to help out organizing/participating in a work day if RLAPD allows it.
I wish I could help out with a $$$ contribution to help the cause, but my 2 month old son has been spending all of it lately.
They did some clearing recently. The course is really taking shape. If you haven't walked it print a map and walk the new holes. It's going to be awesome! I'm really hoping they go ahead and move the baskets this fall. It's been so dry it'd be nice to get them moved.
Just walked all the new holes today. WOW!!!! The map simply doesn't do it justice. I though I was excited before, but after being out there where you can visualize each of the holes, I can't wait.
The course really flows nicely. It's a good mix of all types of holes.
With the leaves changing, it's really a nice looking course back there too.
Many thanks to all involved. I live 5 minutes from Fairfield and regularly drive to other courses to play. Don't see that happening much once this new layout is in the ground.
Are there any plans to expand the parking lot at all - or even better, add a pavilion??? With this kind of awesomeness coming in running any kind of tournament there is going to be super tough on parking.
There are no plans to expand or improve the parking lot. To do that it would cost a ton. It would involve major work and a turn lane on Fairfield. The good thing is hole one will be right across the road of the subdivision. There is plenty of parking on those streets.
Chuck Kennedy talked to them about a pavilion. It's a possibility but I wouldn't count on it.
If we can fast forward to 2014 maybe we can get a completed course.
Where do I go to get an updated hole map? I play Fairfield alot and I have seen the clearings, but not sure where the new holes will be. I am going out today if anyone wants to throw!!!
Quote from: Trevor Greene on November 06, 2012, 06:56:11 AM
Where do I go to get an updated hole map? I play Fairfield alot and I have seen the clearings, but not sure where the new holes will be. I am going out today if anyone wants to throw!!!
See Page 18 on this thread...post from May 24th had an updated map attached.
Awesome thanks I am going out today in a few minutes. Come out if you can!
When is this set to be completed? I am assuming by spring of 2013????? I am willing to help in anyway that I can. I am new to the sport and I am stoked about it! Please let me know if I can do anything. I live close by in Mundelein, and want to help make this a great course.
While there is no guaranteed date of completion, it looks like 2014. Maybe end of 2013 if we are lucky. Either way, it will be a very nice improvement. ;D
Total completion is going to be a while.
I talked to Chuck on the phone a few weeks ago. Phase 1 is supposed to be completed early next spring. That involves getting the WHITE layout in place. Baskets will be moved but no tee pads yet. On to Phase 2 later in the year.
When I went out yesterday, they were working on the new holes. I walked it with some of the workers it will be really nice. I am super excited. I thanked them for all their hard work, and One of the guys also thanked us for utilizing the space. Please let me know if I can help out in any way.
Trevor, it is my understanding that the park district wants their own people working on this. Not sure if this is for insurance reasons or because of union labor, but it is what it is. We all offered our help in the past and were rejected.
Thanks man, I will do anything I can to make that course better!! It is great, and I can't wait for the new layout!
They used to allow volunteer help. We used to organize work days a couple times a year. The last two that we did only Brett and I showed up but we got a lot of work done on those days.
Chuck informed me today that the RLAPD budget was increased. There is enough money to purchase all baskets and tee pads in 2013. Phase 1 will take place this spring. The White layout will be playable. Phase 2 will take place later in the year and the course should be complete by the end of 2013.
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Sweeeeeet!!!
I've been out there every Friday for the last couple months and they are almost always out there working.
Can't wait!
HOLY SMOKES!
That is GREAT news.... Im going to play today if anyone wants to go
HOLY CATS! That is good news.
Do we know the dates of when the new white course will be completed? I would also like to know the dates that the course cannot be used.
Dates are unknown at this point.
any updates on the course yet?
The only update I have is that some of the baskets were painted white for the white positions.
I wouldn't expect any work to be done until the park dries out. Geting concrete out there will be impossible until then.
Thanks Brett. I am really excited for this to be completed! Are there going to be any Sunday leagues out there this year?
They usually have leagues there Thursdays and Saturdays. I don't see them changing that to Sundays.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 14, 2013, 05:47:56 PM
The only update I have is that some of the baskets were painted white for the white positions.
I wouldn't expect any work to be done until the park dries out. Geting concrete out there will be impossible until then.
As of yesterday, the top bands of the baskets on Holes 2--5 have been painted white. New poles, chains and cages/baskets accompany the new white bands. Lookin good! :o
How are the conditions out there?
On Sunday, there was a nice mix of mud, ice and snow out there. Most of the teepads were not in good shape.
Any new updates????
I would not expect anything to happen until this summer when the course starts to dry out.
Ok,, Thanks
Chuck is going to be in town on Thursday and Friday to do final measuring and marking. Anyone insterested in helping him post here. I'll find out the exact times he'll be there.
I would like to help if I can!!!
Chuck said he should be at the course no later than 10am. His car is very easy to spot. It'll be the only one in the lot with MN plates. He's super nice and easy to work with.
I can help with something. See you in the morning.
John
I'm not going to be able to make it out there in the morning but Chuck will definitely be there. He'll definitely need a set of extra hands that is for sure. Anybody is welcome. He's one of the nicest guys you'll meet when it comes to disc golf.
John C. thanks for helping Chuck yesterday!!!
If you have not seen the new Fairfield White layout or the Squaw Creek Gold layout you are going to be blown away. After walking it and throwing most of it it's going to be the best course around. When I say around that's better than Dretzka, Brown Deer, Slver Lake, Joliet, Lemon Lake Golf, Rockford, etc... Chuck is pretty awesome at his craft. The White layout is going to be fun to play for all levels. It has a variety of holes but it won't beat you down. The Gold layout is an absolute monster. True par 72. The great thing is Chuck throws in some very fun par 3 holes. You are going to have a handful of holes where you absolutely get to smash a driver. The wooded section starting at 7 is going to bust some people up. I can't wait until this course is done!!!!
I cant wait!!!! I was out there last Saturday and checked out the flood LOL. Super excited to see the course complete! Let me know about any other work days! When do the leagues start out there?
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 26, 2013, 05:45:03 AM
If you have not seen the new Fairfield White layout or the Squaw Creek Gold layout you are going to be blown away. After walking it and throwing most of it it's going to be the best course around. When I say around that's better than Dretzka, Brown Deer, Slver Lake, Joliet, Lemon Lake Golf, Rockford, etc... Chuck is pretty awesome at his craft.
Wow... That is saying something right there! Can't wait to play it when it's done!! ^_^
Also, HAPPY 10,000TH POST BRETT!!
Quote from: jasonc on November 06, 2012, 07:11:54 AM
Quote from: Trevor Greene on November 06, 2012, 06:56:11 AM
Where do I go to get an updated hole map? I play Fairfield alot and I have seen the clearings, but not sure where the new holes will be. I am going out today if anyone wants to throw!!!
See Page 18 on this thread...post from May 24th had an updated map attached.
Can't seem to find the map on page 18. Anyone know where I can find it?
I have a copy of it on my desktop. Whats your email? I will send it to you,
I think this is the post with the map you are looking for:
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2.msg83787#msg83787
I played 36 @ Fairfield today.... Cant wait for the new holes. I walked a few of them and they look GREAT!!!!!1
Are there any craft woodworkers, metal workers, artists, tech guys, or any other talented disc golfers out there that want to add to this awesome course? Looking for tee signs, course marking arrows, map, and score cards to take this place to the next level when it's completed.
See post below.
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Ideas
I will be happy to help with whatever you need. Let me know what you would like me to do... How many of each do we need? If I was to do the Hole arrows we would need 34 correct?
I know this is obviously not the correct message board for this, but I cannot find the correct one.
What are the dates and times for Fairfield leagues and possibly even leagues at Libertyville?
just moved back around here and want to join some fun
Quote from: Jaseface0714 on May 12, 2013, 07:58:11 AM
I know this is obviously not the correct message board for this, but I cannot find the correct one.
What are the dates and times for Fairfield leagues and possibly even leagues at Libertyville?
just moved back around here and want to join some fun
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=7913.0
Here is the link to the forum
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=7913.0
Here is the link to the forum
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thank you. looking forward to the changes. !
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 10, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
Are there any craft woodworkers, metal workers, artists, tech guys, or any other talented disc golfers out there that want to add to this awesome course? Looking for tee signs, course marking arrows, map, and score cards to take this place to the next level when it's completed.
See post below.
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I am volunteering to print scorecards and maps. I have access to good color printers and I would be happy to supply the paper if necessary. I am not a designer, but if someone can send me a PDF, JPEG or any other printable file, I will take care of the grunt work and I live close enough to re-stock on a regular basis.
Quote from: Trevor Greene on May 12, 2013, 07:13:24 AM
I will be happy to help with whatever you need. Let me know what you would like me to do... How many of each do we need? If I was to do the Hole arrows we would need 34 correct?
Let me get a count and get back to you.
Quote from: jasonc on May 13, 2013, 06:48:18 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 10, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
Are there any craft woodworkers, metal workers, artists, tech guys, or any other talented disc golfers out there that want to add to this awesome course? Looking for tee signs, course marking arrows, map, and score cards to take this place to the next level when it's completed.
See post below.
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Awsome! When it comes time we'll get it rolling.
I am volunteering to print scorecards and maps. I have access to good color printers and I would be happy to supply the paper if necessary. I am not a designer, but if someone can send me a PDF, JPEG or any other printable file, I will take care of the grunt work and I live close enough to re-stock on a regular basis.
Has anyone been out to FF this week? Have they started installing the anchors to the new holes?
I am heading out today... I will let you know
I was out for a quick round this morning and checked a few of the marked locations, but no anchors yet.
The mosquitos are starting to make an appearance, though. I'm guessing a few more days to a week until they are pretty bad.
I was out there yesterday. No signs of anchors yet.
I don't want to be negative, but i does not matter what kind of signage goes out there. EVERYTHING WILL BE VANDALIZED. It totally sucks that the courses in this area get so much vandalism. At the end of last year Grayslake put out nice new tee signs, all of them except hole #1 are ripped all the way off or bent to shit. Something needs to be done, I have some ideas that I am working on. It is going to be heatbreaking to see Squaw Creek Gold get vandalized by those pieces of SHIT!
There are two things you can do about tee sign vandalism: (1) Put the tee signs a good distance from the tees. The lazy, drunk, stoners won't walk 50 feet to vandalize a tee sign. (2) Use very large painted rocks. This has worked at Oakland University and in Ludington.
I heard that the new baskets are in.............
Quote from: Trevor Greene on June 20, 2013, 05:16:12 AM
I heard that the new baskets are in.............
Did you see this?
Brett said new baskets are in, but in a sense that they took the old baskets out and replaced them with shiny new ones.
Yea.... When I went out there they were the same basket positions, just painted ............
Quote from: roman on June 20, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
Brett said new baskets are in, but in a sense that they took the old baskets out and replaced them with shiny new ones.
I was there on Saturday. There is a mix of refurbished (top bands were painted white & everything else looks new) along with brand new baskets (Innova Discatchers) on all existing holes.
Unfortunately, the new Innova basket on #16 was already marked with an ace.
I believe it was Nick S. Real American Hero. His parents must be proud.
I went out Sunday and There are few of the new anchors cemented in the ground!!!!!!!!! ^_^
Yep, they were pouring concrete for the new sleeves last Thursday.
Are you guys serious? I knew when I left for this 2 week vacation this shit was going to start. Hopefully they get it right.
I was out there on Friday 6-28-13 and they had more achors in for the gold course than the white.
Thanks for the info. Any more work out there this week?
Looks like most of the anchors are installed. Wonder when the new mowing pattern and baskets will be changed over :unsure:.
Brett,
Dave Naspinski and I went out there today... We are wondering the same thing!!!
They may have done minimal mowing on the new paths recently. I was out there today and it looks like someone mowed a line for a new fairway with a push mower or something. Could be a reference point for the mowers. Not sure.
Update from RLAPD
Anne has her staff working on clearing some of the last of the trees from the last time Chuck was here and we need to clear the stumps that are in all of the new wooded areas. I can't really give a time line yet, but we are hoping to start pouring the "T" boxes in August during the driest time of the year. The first area of new "T" boxes would be getting the ones done in the open area since we will need to rent buggies to transport the concrete to the wooded areas from the trucks. The hardest part we are having trouble with is all of the signage for the site. There are a lot of signs for the two courses and the site in general with the bike trail on the site and everything else we need to do in that area.
Brett, Let me know what I can do to help.
At this point there isn't much we can do. The park district has the staff doing the work that needs to be done.
Anyone been out there recently???? Changes?
Nothing as of Monday.
>:( DAMN
Nothing changed as of Friday. I wish this would happen, I am getting anxious. ;D
I was out today..... Still nothing..... I did shoot a -7 which is my personal best there!!!!!
Fairfield update from Chuck. He met with the RLAPD on Friday.
They will now start the new mowing pattern next week. Then, they need to do the clearing work on a few holes remaining on the White route like 6 tee, 7 pin (extended a little bit), 10 pin, 11 tee and 16 fairway. Then, they are going to put down temporary stakes for tees like West Park on the white route. They want to put down concrete on the white route before November if possible so testing the layout may only be for a month or so. They liked the idea of stacked baskets on hole 8.
That is GREAT NEWS!!! They had the metal posts where the tee pads will be. The problem is they are VERY close together. No way to throw between them. It was real nice to see that the course is taking shape!
The stakes are there to mark the tees so the park district gets them correct when it's laid out. They will be removed.
It looks like the last of the clearing is taking place. They are cleaning up the fairways and laying wood chips. I'm hoping the new mow pattern comes soon. Once that takes place they are really close to making the switch over.
This is just the new white course layout right?
Quote from: Trevor Greene on August 28, 2013, 08:42:03 PM
This is just the new white course layout right?
From what I understand they entire White & Gold Layout will be playable. The White concrete tees are up first.
That's great Brett! What started with your organization of some clean up days 12 or so years ago led to a very productive relationship with the park district which ultimately led to this complete overhaul and expansion of the course. You should be proud of everything that you have accomplished...and you should be knighted for your efforts. Sir Birdie of Fairfield upon Round Lake!
Thats Great. I only have one suggestion. I played the Mrengo IOS, and they had new tee boxes installed. There were 2 problems with them in my opinion.
1) The shape of the pads were very strange to throw off of, and
2) The length of the pads were too short do do a full run up
What are the pads supposed to look like?
Thanks Jon. The last time I went in to the park it was my last. I was about ready to give up. Thank goodness the new executive director has an open mind and realized the potential.
Trevor. I have given the park district some information on the tee pads. I had they hire Chuck Kennedy and he is very good working with park districts and getting it right the first time. Not sure what size the tee pads are to be but they will be plenty big and uniform.
I have been to the course 5 times in the last 2 weeks and truthfully they have not done anything to the course in those 2 weeks which is very disappointing considering they could be done with both white and gold courses if they just let us as golfers volunteer our time which a bunch of would have done.
That's sad to hear. I thought they were going to start the new mowing pattern by now?
Brett, I know it's a slim chance but it would be nice to get a heads up on when they are going to pour the concrete pads. They will most likely just pour them and leave, leaving them all vulnerable to vandalism while they dry. We need to see if we can get a heads up so that we can get volunteers to drive out to the course and "guard" the pads like they did at Marengo. Just until they dry enough so people can't carve crap into them.
I will go out and guard if needed
Guarding tee pads is a job I can still do!
They have definitely been doing some work. They are clearing the stumps fairway to fairway and laying some wood chips down. The fairways they have worked on you can see the difference. It's been a slow process that's for sure.
They plan on closing the park the day they pour the tee pads. The Good thing about Fairfield is there is really only one way in for disc golfers unless they ride their bike in the back way. That doesn't happen often.
That will be impressive if they can get them all poured in one day.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 09, 2013, 08:00:36 AM
They have definitely been doing some work. They are clearing the stumps fairway to fairway and laying some wood chips down. The fairways they have worked on you can see the difference. It's been a slow process that's for sure.
They plan on closing the park the day they pour the tee pads. The Good thing about Fairfield is there is really only one way in for disc golfers unless they ride their bike in the back way. That doesn't happen often.
I was there this past Saturday and I noticed the progress on the new fairways.
Slow and steady always wins in disc golf, right??? ^_^
I played a lot of the new holes just to thro them yesterday 9/12/20013 and see how they are in the back they are gonna be good when there done. but that doesn't look like it is gonna be done any time soon. there have been 4 mounds of wood chips and dirt on hole seven for well over a month now and they have not been touched and the holes in the back still need a lot of work none of the tee boxes are even cleared stumps and roots all over the place. I would be super pissed if I was chuck and saw after all the work I put in to design the course and work with them and the very little progress they have shown. again a little volunteer time and the courses could be done already.
nothing but more wood chip piles as of sept 17. A friend and I are going there at about 330 today if anyone sees this and wants to play a little competitive doubles.
I'm not sure what got done but I heard they started digging out the new tee pads.
new tee boxes have been dug and framed out on the front part of the course
Some concrete tees were poured Monday.
Hole #1 Gold/White
Hole #2 Gold/White
Hole #3 Gold & White
Hole #4 Gold & White
Hole #5 Gold & White
Hole #6 Gold & White
Hole #16 White Hole #17 Gold (Started to pour)
Hole #17 White Hole #18 Gold
12 total tees so far complete.
12 more to go until the White layout will be ready for play.
They aren't going to pour the holes to the west of the power lines until next spring.
Thats awesome Brett I was out there on Sunday and it looks GREAT!!!!!! Still have LOTS TO DO. Do you think the new basket positions and fairways will be done this fall????
Went out to FF this afternoon on my day off.
They are pulling the wood frames from the concrete tees and back filling them as I type this. I talked to the workers and they'll be framing the rest of the Fairfield White course this week. They plan on pouring those tee pads early next week. They have my phone number and plan on texting me the day they pour them so I can organize some volunteers to watch them.
I really think there is a good chance the course will be done by November 1st.
I've had a lot of people ask what they can do to help with this project. Grab a shovel, clippers, rake and head out to the park. The dirt around the new tee pads needs some TLC.
Brett,
That is great news. I was out there on Saturday and I am really excited about the new layout. Do you think they will have the new fairways cut and all baskets moved by the 1st?
Thanks for all your hard work. This course is going to be one of the best in the area once it is complete. I am really busy, but I would be glad to help in anyway I can. Just let me know what you need.
I am most excited about being able to have big tournaments out there!!!
Thanks,
T-
Quite a few people said they were interested in volunteering at Fairfield. The new tee pads that have been poured are in need of dirt leveling. Grab a shovel, rake, and a few buddies and get r done!
Im going to head out there Sunday
I just got a call from the PD and they are pouring concrete this afternoon and tomorrow. If you are able to please go out there and keep an eye on them.
Chris and I met out at FF this afternoon. We leveled the dirt around the tee pads the best we could. The park district is going to finish and seed next spring.
Some good news. They ended up pouring all the holes west of the power lines. Those are gold holes 10 thru 14. All the tee pads are complete except #18 White the "Island Hole". I've had a chance to throw off the tees that are completed. They are awesome.
I talked to Chuck Kennedy. He's going to be in town on November 3rd. Chuck is giving the park district all the information about the construction of the island. They are going bulldoze it before the winter so the dirt can set up. The park district wants all the course signage information so it can be completed over the winter.
The million dollar question is when they are moving the baskets. That is still unknown :huh:
Thanks Brett!!!!!
so what are they doing to this island hole? I thought it was going to just be a imaginary island hole like we used to do for tournaments. kinda curious now.
p.s. Last time I was at FF someone through near us when we were in the swamp area and then came up to us accusing us of stealing his disc... After finishing the course I went back and actually found it in the swamp for him. If anyone knows who it is try to contact me.
It was a glow leopard I believe.
An elevated island is going to be created by moving earth. It will have a distinct outline for out of bounds so it can be played all the time.
Local disc golfers. Please write your hole in one shot on your disc and not tee signs, posts, or baskets.
GOOD CALL ON THAT BRETT. YES PLEASE write aces on your discs not on the band of the baskets. I am tired of spray painting the bands every year or so to cover all the names of morons who write their names on them.
Tom & I had the initial redesign meeting on Sept 30th 2011. Chuck came into town on October 18th 2011 to see the land for the first time. I cannot wait for this thing to be completed.
You and me both Brett!!!!! Thanks for everything!
Some bad news tonight disc golfers. The baskets at Round Lake will not be moved until the spring of 2014. The exact date is yet TBD. It's going to be a long winter of waiting.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 31, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
Some bad news tonight disc golfers. The baskets at Round Lake will not be moved until the spring of 2014. The exact date is yet TBD. It's going to be a long winter of waiting.
Brett has done a fantastic job on this and has worked hard for years to get a world class course in Lake County. It has been over 30 years since Adler went into the ground and there have been a lot of crappy courses put in since then. Waiting a couple of cold winter months will be well worth it for something special in Lake County.
This is great news for me because I can't (or shouldn't) play all winter as it is... Don't want that monster of a course tempting me! Hopefully I'll be ready to play around the same time they move the baskets.
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 01, 2013, 04:32:27 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 31, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
Some bad news tonight disc golfers. The baskets at Round Lake will not be moved until the spring of 2014. The exact date is yet TBD. It's going to be a long winter of waiting.
Brett has done a fantastic job on this and has worked hard for years to get a world class course in Lake County. It has been over 30 years since Adler went into the ground and there have been a lot of crappy courses put in since then. Waiting a couple of cold winter months will be well worth it for something special in Lake County.
I second this. As much as I want this thing in the ground and playable, I'm very grateful that it's happening at all.
for those of us that have been playing the current course since it was installed. It was a big disappointment that they couldn't get the white course in the ground, they had plenty of time to do it before winter set in. LAZY ROUND LAKE PARK DISTRICT!!!
Quote from: cjordan on November 04, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
for those of us that have been playing the current course since it was installed. It was a big disappointment that they couldn't get the white course in the ground, they had plenty of time to do it before winter set in. LAZY ROUND LAKE PARK DISTRICT!!!
Well, they didn't have to pour all the pads west of the creek this year and they did. I agree it's been a long long process but, I think we should grateful they are actually going through with the new course. They could have taken the Forest Preserves stance and funded a new course at all.
Gold holes 10 thru 14 are completely done. They cleared the fairways and installed the anchors. They look pretty sick!! Talk about the gauntlet.
#10 Par 4
#11 Par 5
#12 Par 3
#13 Par 5
#14 Par 3
AWESOME NEWS BRETT!!!!!
10 thru 14 and the rest of the holes on the Gold course look great!!! ;D
If you are still looking for ideas for tee signs, these are pretty awesome:
http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2268&start=375 (http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2268&start=375)
Brett,
I do not see any reason why you would not be able to run a tournament on
the weekend of August 9 - 10. We have only two major items left to
complete on the course before we make the change. These are building the
very last stockade hole for the gold level course which is the same as the
18th hole for the white level and all of the signage that we will need.
In the spring we will start the new mowing patterns and installing of the
mulch in the wooded areas and after the final hole is done we will be ready
to switch all of the baskets to the new configuration. I am hoping that at
the very latest to have this complete during the month of June if not
earlier.
Thanks,
Jeff Lurquin
Parks and Buildings Services Director
Round Lake Area Park District
WOW that is great news!
;D ;D ;D ;D
Thank you guys for pushing this through. I will attend this tourney rain or shine. With the long winter ahead this is something great to look forword to. :)
Warning.
Parking lot is iced so bad you can't get out. Drove past yesterday and was going to pull in. Got waived off by someone who was stuck. They were still stuck there an hour later when I drove by again.
Anyone been out recently?
Brett,
We do not have an anticipated date to change over yet. We need to get past
the weather and opening up the other 48 parks that we have to maintain. We
have all of the signs ordered and they should be in soon. The new kiosks
are being constructed and we need to build the final hole of the course.
We are hoping depending on the weather and the other 5 major projects that
we are working on to have the Disc Golf Course ready by Memorial Day
weekend. That is our hope.
Thanks,
Jeff Lurquin
Parks and Buildings Services Director
Round Lake Area Park District
Thank you for the update Brett!
YEAAAA How are course conditions out there?
It was decent after the hail storm on Saturday for league. Some of the teepads were muddy, but nothing new out there.
Although it was the first time in a while that I had been there, it looked like the PD had marked some of the fairways/new mowing patterns.
What time is league on saturday?
They usually start at 10am on Saturdays - that time is pretty lax. Unless they changed it I think if you get there by 10 you'll be fine.
The start time is 11:00 AM, not 10:00...at least that is the way it has been for the last 5+ years.
Still lax as well. We started closer to 11:30 this past Saturday because of the hail storm.
Do leagues use the new course layout with temp baskets? Or are you playing the old (current) course layout?
Old course is being used.
Hello All,
been to the course recently and it looks great. From what you can see, it is very close to being complete. I have read this thread and noted that the park districk said they were "hoping that at the very latest to have this complete during the month of June if not earlier". I was just wondering if anyone knew if they were still on track for that completion date.
I would like to start going out and becoming a regular at local leagues but my motivation to play the old course is getting worse the closer we get to this change.
They are on pace to complete the project by Memorial Day Weekend. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Chuck Kennedy will be in town tomorrow morning to walk the course one last time with the park district. We'll know when it's almost done because they plan to use a day or two to close the course. During those days they'll be installing tee signs and moving baskets.
Looks like the tee pads are finished from what i can tell.
Saw a couple mounds in the middle of old 1's fairway. are those staying there as obsticles? if so that would be pretty sweet.
There has been an extremely large amount of traffic at that park as of late and Im hoping they can switch it over quickly to not stop people from playing.
I will try to make it to leagues this week. Havent played it in a long long time.
The park districts goal is to open Memorial Day Weekend. The park district wants to make the change as quickly as possible. The plan on closing the course for a few days while moving baskets and installing tee signs.
Those mounds in the middle of the fairway will be a new hole. You can see the pin placement right between them. It currently has a green cap over the anchor. On the mounds is out of bounds. They are defined by a nice black liner. There will also be some sort of structure on the front side of it making a triangle around the basket.
We've had a lot of players ask how they could help with the Round Lake course. Here is your chance before the course opens this weekend. The wooded fairways need to be cleared of larger debris. Debris that is dead and on the ground. Do not cut anything! Please get out there and make a difference. The massive pile behind white #14 is gone.
Everything seems done!
I played yesterday but had to stop after 4 due to high traffic and little sunlight. I skipped right to white #13 and finished the course. Im going back out today to play the whole thing if possible.
Course looks absolutely awesome! I walked with the mowers this morning to make sure they mowed the fairways wide enough.
Can't wait to check it out. I'm going to get out and play it Wednesday early morning if anyone is down to shoot a round of gold.
Does anyone have a link to the course map that showed the white and gold layouts? I thought it used to be in this thread, but I can't find it.
Here you go, Tom:
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10152556_10152408575732390_6599763691594174136_n.jpg
Played Gold yesterday. Super fun holes!
However, the course was terribly crowded and we had to wait on every hole. Our group nearly got hit twice from discs thrown by people who were throwing the same hole from a different teepad. They could not see us and we could not see them. The crossing or shared pads/fairways is going to be a problem. For tourneys, flow of play can be regulated; but for casual rounds on crowded days, there might be chaos. Heard lots of other players, both new and seasoned, complaining about this.
Other than this, the challenge of Gold was intense. Can't wait to play White.
Thanks to Brett, Chuck Kennedy, and the RLPD for all the work that went into this monster course!
Even before the change Fairfield has been super crowded. I don't anticipate it being this crowded all year. Being brand new + the weather had everyone out there. Players from all over came to see it.
If you were playing gold I could see these conflicts.
#7 (throwing onto someone)
#16 merging back with white #12. Shouldn't bee to much of an issue since the basket and green area are visible.
#17 merging with white #16
Other than that it's just responsible golf. If you were getting thrown onto from behind I'd let the people behind have it. The front 9 is just like any other course out there. Long or short tee or long or short basket. There should be no problems with Gold 10 thru 15. They are all separate holes. I'd be super pissed if someone threw on me on #18.
I played 5 rounds of Gold & 2 White this weekend without an issue on any hole. I communiicated clearly with players on White #7 that we were going to throw while they looked for discs. They moved over and let us play thru. We also merged on hole #16gold/#12 White. We played the hole with that group then they split to White 13 and we went to Gold 17. It worked out quite well.
Yep, things should work smoothly if people communicate clearly and are not buttfaces. ;D
The group behind us ignored our requests to be patient and they insisted on driving while we were still putting or approaching. The group behind them seemed to be doing the same thing to them. It became a clusterf*ck of idiots. Also picked up lots of garbage out there. I sure hope this behavior is limited to opening weekend craziness. It is difficult to teach others to respect the course and the game when so many jerks are out there setting bad examples.
Can't wait to play Gold and White on less crowded days. So very happy about the rebirth of this course!
I played both courses over the weekend. First and foremost, thank you Chuck, Brett and the RLAPD for everything again!!! Fantastic job with the redesign! ;D
I did not have any problems outside of the typical chuckers besides Hole #7. On Saturday I played White because I had my kids (2 years and 7 months) out there. When I finished 6, there was a group of chuckers still working on #5. My tee shot on #7 hit a tree and landed in the rough on the left side of the fairway. Since I had the 2 seater stroller, I walked the long way around (close to the fairway on #8) to avoid the steep hill. I put the stroller in 7's fairway and started looking for my disc. About 30 seconds into my search discs start flying in, pretty close to the stroller. Thankfully, my kids escaped unharmed because of my long lost goalie skills.
I was mildly upset, but didn't fell like screaming or yelling when I told the chuckers to be careful and look for other players on the holes that share fairways. I'm pretty sure they didn't care and/or didn't know what I was talking about. :rolleyes:
What time Wednesday Tom, I don't have to work not sure if I still have your number
Quote from: roman on May 27, 2014, 07:19:35 AM
Here you go, Tom:
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10152556_10152408575732390_6599763691594174136_n.jpg
Thanks Roman!
Quote from: discpro99 on May 27, 2014, 12:18:45 PM
What time Wednesday Tom, I don't have to work not sure if I still have your number
Yeah you got it.
Played Squaw Creek Gold yesterday morning. It was a complete sensory overload for me. Can't talk now, going to go play it again.
Finally played the new course this morning. First car in the lot. So thankful to the park district and everyone involved. Definitely has a Minnesotan - Kaposia/Blue Ribbon vibe. I had to play the Gold 10-14 loop twice in a row. I could play those five holes all day.
I picked about two bags of trash this morning and put back in one the out of bounds markers that looked like someone use as a step to get there disc out of the water. Bud Light seems to be a popular litter item on the course currently. Picked up more than a 12 pack of just that. Disappointing these people probable call themselves disc golfers.
The tree on Gold 16 blocked my Red Proto F7 into the creek. Would love it back if someone happens to find it. Had to go to the station, I wasn't going in. My noodle arm need that disc. I do not believe I inked it yet. I was testing it into the bag. II think it's staying (well the other one anyway).
Thanks again Chuck, Brett, and RLAPD and everyone involved.
We picked up a boat load of cans on Friday. All Bud Light. It's probably that same group of ass bags.
I wanted to release this here first for the club.
Course guide for Squaw Creek Gold is now live and downloadable. There's a mobile and high res version.
Get yours here:
http://mindbodydisc.com/squaw-creek-gold-course-guide/ (http://mindbodydisc.com/squaw-creek-gold-course-guide/)
Enjoy!!!
Someone on DGCR pointed out that the distance was wrong on hole 8. Should have been 195'. I fixed all the files and links so any new download is correct.