I dont know about you guys but i would have SIUC at the top of this bottom list. Absoulety no thought what so ever put into the design and construction of this course. Its as if they just drove around in a truck and threw the baskets out and that is where they will lie. The only thing nice about are the baskets, but other than that it sucks. I highly recomend not playing this course.
The disc golf club down here is non-exisent. Going to try to talk to some people to see what needs to be done to start on up. Maybe this will help a bit.
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I always call this the throwing the baskets out of a helicopter design method. Ironically, Bruce and I looked at some park property on Sunday that you could design a nice 9 hole course just by throwing the baskets out of a helicopter.
Mundelein
Urbana (Unless you play the backwards tees on www.frolfingillini.com)
I didnt think SIUC had terrible holes, but the flow of the course was awful. There were way too many holes where you shot blindly into walking paths. I think there was even one instance where the basket for one hole was right in the middle of the fairway of another hole. Thats dumb.
the long tees i helped create for Lohman Park were decent. they used to be marked, but i'm sure they aren't anymore. they took quality shots to get deuces.
this was obviously Pre- Frolfing illini. too bad u weren't yet in existence when me and nick rapp were there.
SIUC's course isn't that bad, it does have some issues being in a high traffic area during school hours. But at least there is a course down here. The course is in one of the good looking parts of the campus right next to the lake. Going to school here it's nice to have a course near by. The second closest is Effingham or St. Louis. They used to have two courses on campus but they took the one next to the rec. center out because they were expanding the rec. center. There used to be a club, but it was poorly run, first by a guy named Nate, then by a guy named Brandon who just gave up, there may be some money still in the club account for someone to start up a new club.
Quotethe long tees i helped create for Lohman Park were decent. they used to be marked, but i'm sure they aren't anymore. they took quality shots to get deuces.
this was obviously Pre- Frolfing illini. too bad u weren't yet in existence when me and nick rapp were there.
They are probably the same ones that we used to play. There are 5 Total sets of tees at that course now. The regular marked ones, Mid, Long, and the Red and Blue backwards tees. The Mid tees are usually pretty well dug into the ground and easy to find. Only people that play there a lot know where the pro tees are, they arent marked at all. The Red and Blue ones are on the club website.
i remember hole 8 from the hard tee being really tight. i used to try to skip off that white shed and let it slide toward the basket. i think it was also harder cuz of the kids that would try to swoop my disc over there every time i threw :lol:
Quotei remember hole 8 from the hard tee being really tight. i used to try to skip off that white shed and let it slide toward the basket. i think it was also harder cuz of the kids that would try to swoop my disc over there every time i threw :lol:
Yea, 8 from the longer tee is up on the little hill that leads up to the apartment buildings. Instead of just having a tunnel shot through the trees you have to go a good 50 feet before you get into the trees at all, and there is a low ceiling since you are starting higher. Plus you are throwing with some really awkward footing, being on top of a small mound.
i think that was what we played as the middle tee. the hard tee was to the left in the woods and there wasn't really much of a gap to throw through.
i started on the SIU course by the rec center
we did not even have discs back then
played Lohman last week 2 under
almost aced 6 ? on second throw
i thought the baskets caught well
3 miles from kids dorm
9 th tee missing
I played Lohman yesterday. Worst course design I have seen yet. If anybody still knows the alternates, let me know. My buddies and I just made up are own so we could actually take out a driver.
It might be bad now but just give it a few. Once the students start getting into it and forming leagues, the more the school will most likely listen. Perfect example in great courses are Parkside in Wisconsin.
To be honest, I see nothing wrong with courses that could use some work. Its a COURSE and its better than nothing.
It would be really awesome if the PDGA had an active role in course design. Something like what the PGA does.
ill be down in a week with some stakes to mark out
a set of alternates
or we can try to mark out the posted ones but I couldnt find them
sunday not sure what time ill be available
I'm a student there at U of I and if anyone wants a tour of the backwards tees at Lohmann, let me know.
Some factors that I used to make my decision.
Land
Avaliable Space
Obstacles Utilized
Maximized Potential
Tees/Signs/Baskets
My top 5 worst 18 Holers in Illinois
1. Rock Falls--Nims Park
2. Olney--Kiwanis Rotary Park DGC
3. Antioch--Tim Osmond Sports Complex
4. Kirkland--Pioneer Park
5. Bartlett--Sunrise Park
The only 3 18+ hole courses in Illinois I have not played are Rock Island, Dallas City, and Quincy.
I'll add the top 5 bad 9 holers. That is going to take some thinking :o
Quote from: keitherboo on August 22, 2009, 02:00:34 PM
I'm a student there at U of I and if anyone wants a tour of the backwards tees at Lohmann, let me know.
That would be great, I don't know how soon I can get back out there with classes starting and no car, but I will PM you next time I head that way.
funny to see everyone ragging on Lohmann. yeah, it's a horrid course, but I spent 6 years calling it "home", and now that I live in Oak Park (no courses within 20 minutes, and no GOOD courses less than an hour away), I definitely miss having Lohmann to practice and work on the short game!
I was one of the first 5-6 people on the Frolfing Illini, we had one hell of a time playing leagues out there, in all manner of configurations. Mike's right, the backwards 18 was MUCH more challenging (Even was a good score back then). I think by the end of it, we figured about 10 different ways to play that course.
Quote from: Mike S on October 31, 2005, 04:03:25 PM
Mundelein
Urbana (Unless you play the backwards tees on www.frolfingillini.com)
I didnt think SIUC had terrible holes, but the flow of the course was awful. There were way too many holes where you shot blindly into walking paths. I think there was even one instance where the basket for one hole was right in the middle of the fairway of another hole. Thats dumb.
The link for Frolfing Illini no longer works. Does anybody know if this group still exists? I am really looking into getting into some league play with other students here, but I don't really know where to look. Thanks in advance.
i am surprised no one was at quad day ( have not got the update on how fun that was yet )
I plan on being down and available to play around 3 on Sunday ( apparently taking kid to both lunch and dinner - I thought dorm food was better now a days ) and will have materials to mark the tees or create new ones and mark those )
Shore Acres in Chillicothe( 20 minutes North of Peoria ) is a waste of time. 9 holes, with 1 over 320' but is a very easy 2. With a Roc and Putter I finished -7. I guess good for the Juniors, or maybe Grandmasters, but every other division would or should shoot lights out on this course.
Quote from: airspuds on August 24, 2009, 01:02:42 PM
i am surprised no one was at quad day ( have not got the update on how fun that was yet )
I plan on being down and available to play around 3 on Sunday ( apparently taking kid to both lunch and dinner - I thought dorm food was better now a days ) and will have materials to mark the tees or create new ones and mark those )
LOL Trust me, dorm food is not better now a days, I got out of there as fast as I could. Would you mind if a couple buddies and I join you on Sunday? We can help you out marking and scouting tees if you want.
I can be there Sunday as well.
The all-time worst courses I have ever played. You've got to really love disc golf to have fun playing at any of these courses! :D
#9 Summitt Park, Summit...Hard to have fun throwing putters at trees for 45 minutes.
#8 Longwood centre, Lake Villa...Hole 9 over the pond is sweet, but do you want to risk your plastic on this worthless course?
#7 Hanna Beardsley School, Crystal Lake...We had a blast playing this with OB, but at 1100 ft., its absolutely going on the list.
#6 Leo Leathers, Mundelein...Holes 1 and 9 are tough! Feel free to skip 2-7!
#5 Patriots Park, Homewood...Nothing they could do with this tiny park, no redeemable qualities.
#4 Twin Creeks, Buffalo Grove.....you could kick the disc off the tee and ace the first 4 holes.
#3 Commissioner park, Frankfort...Home to the 'Impaler'. When electric towers are used as obstacles because there are zero trees, you know there's a problem.
#2 Nims Park, Rock Falls....not the worst because it will make you laugh and its 18.
#1 Volunteer Park, Romeoville...The worst course that I've ever seen!
Quote from: Dan Michler on August 25, 2009, 07:39:34 AM
The all-time worst courses I have ever played. You've got to really love disc golf to have fun playing at any of these courses! :D
#9 Summitt Park, Summit...Hard to have fun throwing putters at trees for 45 minutes.
#8 Longwood centre, Lake Villa...Hole 9 over the pond is sweet, but do you want to risk your plastic on this worthless course?
#7 Hanna Beardsley School, Crystal Lake...We had a blast playing this with OB, but at 1100 ft., its absolutely going on the list.
#6 Leo Leathers, Mundelein...Holes 1 and 9 are tough! Feel free to skip 2-7!
#5 Patriots Park, Homewood...Nothing they could do with this tiny park, no redeemable qualities.
#4 Twin Creeks, Buffalo Grove.....you could kick the disc off the tee and ace the first 4 holes.
#3 Commissioner park, Frankfort...Home to the 'Impaler'. When electric towers are used as obstacles because there are zero trees, you know there's a problem.
#2 Nims Park, Rock Falls....not the worst because it will make you laugh and its 18.
#1 Volunteer Park, Romeoville...The worst course that I've ever seen!
A good list. Hard to argue with any of the choices. However, if you live in or near the City of Chicago you would be thrilled to have any of these courses close by. Its pathetic that there is nothing save a 9 holer that winds through a college campus quad and a sometimes open pay to play that is really for big arms only. There is not one generic 18 hole course anywhere close to the city.
The Frolfing Illini started, and died, with the class of 2006. Greg Schwartz (2007 Am World Champ) started the club in 2002, and it went strong while him and his roommates were in school, but as soon as everyone graduated, none of the younger FI members were devoted enough to keep the club going. Same goes for the WKU club. We had a ton of fun driving down to Bowling Green and playing college tourneys there.
I think you guys are missing the point of NIMS. If you think of it as a warm-up for Sinnissippi or as 18 baskets in a park to goof around on and throw for "aces" (Note: I don't consider a NIMS ace a real ace), it can be pretty fun. I've never considered NIMS in the same sense that I'd consider the other courses on your lists. Then again, I don't see the point of playing crappy courses and ranking which one is the most craptastic.
Quote from: jack on August 25, 2009, 12:19:44 PM
I think you guys are missing the point of NIMS. If you think of it as a warm-up for Sinnissippi or as 18 baskets in a park to goof around on and throw for "aces" (Note: I don't consider a NIMS ace a real ace), it can be pretty fun. I've never considered NIMS in the same sense that I'd consider the other courses on your lists. Then again, I don't see the point of playing crappy courses and ranking which one is the most craptastic.
Hey, I actually had alot of fun at some of the courses on the list, so I don't think I am missing the point. The point is to have fun and play disc golf which is what I do.
The point of making this list? To waste time at work and spend more time thinking about disc golf!
2 of the courses on the list have served as primary practice courses for me in the past due to the fact that they are baskets in the ground and nobody else was there to get in the way of me playing the course however I wanted. So I do appreciate every course in existence because I'd rather have 4 terrible 9 holers than have nothing at all.
In the same sense, Squirrel near me is a crappy course when considered as a course, but is a great place to practice running long putts and then making the comeback putt. There is never anyone there but us, so you can make up interesting holes if you want to. Skip4 is a pretty good course there. 1 tee to 5 basket, 6 tee to 1 basket, 2 tee to 6 basket, and so on.
Anywhere you have at least three baskets in the ground you have something, even if you don't have what the idiot designer thought he was creating. ;D
Nims Park is AWESOME. You must be smokin crack to put that on your worst course list.
sunday 230 ish
i will be marking out the extra tees or making my own and marking them
i will also bring my basket and we can design a couple of extra holes
maroon lumina
Bruce - got any illini chief dyed discs ?
Sorry Airspuds, not going to make it out to Lohman today. Buddy with a car is MIA. If you could post on here where the tees are and how they are marked, that would be awesome. Thanks.
played reverse tees with pitner's younger brother
started by school parking lot up on the hill
blue markings
you will play the new 1 tee to 9 basket
should be easy to follow most blue tees clost to basket except for one of them arrow pointed
played over both times
i would say par would be 29
Quote from: airspuds on August 31, 2009, 07:27:13 AM
played reverse tees with pitner's younger brother
started by school parking lot up on the hill
blue markings
you will play the new 1 tee to 9 basket
should be easy to follow most blue tees clost to basket except for one of them arrow pointed
played over both times
i would say par would be 29
Awesome tees. Finally got to play them today and enjoyed it much more than the original 9.
I just found this forum because I was searching for the Folfing Illini site, and the map for the backwards tees. I'm very sad that the club fell apart.
Does anyone still have a copy of the backward tees? They used to be pegged on a board at the park, and on the website, and now, both are gone! I was just at the park a few days ago, and I didn't see any blue marks at all. Are they pegs in the ground, or spray paint?
Also, I saw a petition (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dg2cu/index.html) to put in an 18-hole course at Dodds Park. Does anyone know what needs to happen to make this a reality? Is the Park District working on it? Do they need donations, or help planning a course? I'd love to be involved some way.
Hole 1 started up the hill by the parking lot to 9 's basket.
the paint should last a while but its not permanent
might be in town on Oct 4 to visit
The paint is definitely starting to wear off. Had a tough time finding a few of the tees last time I was at Lohman on Friday, Sept 11th. Next time I head out there (probably this weekend) I will bring along flags or spray paint to mark the tees off again.
I wish the Frolfing Illini didn't fizzle out as well. I am looking to maybe start a new club and run random dubs out there until the weather turns for the worst. I know about 6 or 7 guys that would want to do it. I am not sure of the details yet, but I will post here if I get it up and running.
I just played Lohmann Park again yesterday (Urbana), and someone marked new backwards tees in orange paint. The paint is much easier to see than the blue was, and there are arrows from each basket to the next tee (same orange paint).
The orange tees are definitely shorter, and probably less interesting than the blue ones, but I think they are a lot closer to the original backwards tees (on the lost forever map that used to be available at frolfingillini.com). The first tee starts west of the parking lot (instead of south).
well my original plan was to mark the existing with white , then the others with orange,
but I did not have time ,,
blue was just going to be for arrows
not sure when i will be down that way
I saw the orange tees too. Seemed a lot shorter than the blues and easier. Have not a had a chance to remark the blues yet, but they are still barely visible. Hopefully I can redo them when I get out there.
On that note I would like to say Blue #6 is one hell of a hole. I play with the same foursome on a weekly basis and out of 11 tries (one guys couldn't make it this week) we have scored 1 par, 5 bogies, and 6 double bogies playing par 3. It is uphill, 90% of the time has a decent a headwind, and is about 470 feet.
http://www.pdga.com/course_directory/course/kickapoo-state-park
is it worth bringing a basket here ?
http://spminigolf.com/diskgolf.html
http://www.sullivanil.us/frisbeegolf.php
wyman park in sullivan illinois
home made baskets
no tee markers
windy day yesterday when I played
the first link has a pic of the baskets and is idiotic to play
my inlaws 2.5
acres can be a better place to have baskets
You know you are in trouble when they call it disk golf.
Quote from: airspuds on September 26, 2009, 06:45:33 AM
http://www.pdga.com/course_directory/course/kickapoo-state-park
is it worth bringing a basket here ?
Not really. The posts are about the same size as a basket. The park itself is beautiful, but the disc golf course isn't the greatest. You could make up a decent safari course the second time through, which is what I did. I actually saw someone out there throwing last weekend when I was down there for a race.
have you ever played a course that used chicken wire ?
those home made ones were interesting for sure
road trip
at lohman around 9
will be down for dad's weekend
going to try to sneak a round in sat or sun at lohman
Quote from: airspuds on October 03, 2009, 11:31:14 AM
http://spminigolf.com/diskgolf.html
http://www.sullivanil.us/frisbeegolf.php
wyman park in sullivan illinois
home made baskets
no tee markers
windy day yesterday when I played
the first link has a pic of the baskets and is idiotic to play
my inlaws 2.5
acres can be a better place to have baskets
I played this "course" before, the baskets don't catch very well at all. I think they charge a couple bucks to play :o