OFFICIAL WEBSITE
http://www.brasscash.com (http://www.brasscash.com)
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SCHEDULE
All PDGA Santioned
Ams-B-Tier
Pros-C-Tier (There is a possibility of a few moving to B-Tiers in 2006)
Advanced/Pro-> Saturday
Intermediate/Recreational/Junior-> Sunday
4-22/23-06 IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI
5-20/21-06 Hot Rags Presents IOS #2 @ Lombard, IL
6-24/25-06 IOS #3 @ Crystal Lake, IL
7-29/30-06 IOS #4 @ Rockford, IL *Top 13 attended event in the country in 05 w/167 players*
(Am Nationals Qualifier) http://www.amnationals.com
8-12/13-06 IOS #5 @ Streamwood, IL
9-16/17-06 IOS #6 @ Aurora, IL
10-14/15-06 IOS #7 @ Round Lake, IL
Advanced/Pro-> Saturday
Intermediate/Recreational/Junior-> Sunday
ENTRY FEES ARE BELOW
See bottom of page for the histrory of the series. 4 of the 7 events in 05 had 140 or more players!
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CONTACT
Jon Brakel
PDGA #10246
jon@brasscash.com
(847) 670-1757
PDGA Illinois State Coordinator
Vice President, Discontinuum Disc Golf Club
Bruce Brakel
PDGA #13087
bruce@brasscash.com
Waterford Jr. Girls Club Dictator General President for Life
Brett Comincioli
PDGA #19325
brett@brasscash.com
(847) 858-4368
President, Discontinuum Disc Golf Club
Allan Short
PDGA #19438
847-855-7959
mirth@rafansrule.org
PreRegistration Coordinator
Treasurer, Discontinuum Disc Golf Club
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ENTRY FEES
(PLEASE PREREGISTER)
Avoid the wait in line. We averaged 128 players per event last year and expect an increase in 2006 with the subtraction of our lowest drawing event and an addition of Aurora. Our goal is 1000+ players over 7 events which would be over 140 players per event.
If you preregister go the the score board when you get there and check in. You must check in by 9:00AM or you may lose your spot. You don't have to stand in line. If you are playing in any amateur division make sure to ask for your $15.00 brass cash player pack.
1. Make check out to DISContinuum Disc Golf Club
Send to
Allan Short
981 Cambridge Dr
Grayslake, IL 60030
Checks must be received the Friday prior to the event.
Preregistration Policy-> If the TD is contacted Friday or before the event weekend, the preregistered players money will be held and can be used at any of the IOS events left in 2006. If they don't show to any of the later events the money will be used in the prize pool at the final event. If the TD is not contacted Friday or before the event weekend the money will be added to the prize pool that weekend.
2. You may also preregister online at -> http://store.discontinuum.org/index.php?cPath=24
3. You can pay Brett Comincioli prior to the event. He is usaually at the course the Friday before each event. You can pay at local leagues or any other time you see Brett on the course.
4. If you are a Sunday player you can stop by during the event and pay on Saturday.
5. You can pay Allan Short at Sunday Best Shot League at Bevier Park.
ENTRY FEES
Advanced/Pro (SATURDAY)
Division.........Full Fee......Trophy-only
Open/Pro->...$45.00........$10.00
Advanced-> ..$35.00........$14.00
We will offer any PDGA division if a player wants to play in it.
Lower (SUNDAY)
Division.........Full Fee......Trophy-only
Junior->..............NA..........$10.00
Recreational->...$23.00.....$14.00
Intermediate->..$23.00.....$14.00
We will offer any PDGA division if a player wants to play in it.
All Amateur players get a $15.00 brass cash player pack to pick whatever merchandise they want. There is a Discraft player pack that includes any Z or ESP disc and a D disc for $15.00 Brass. There is a limited number of these. The PDGA requires a player pack valued at a minimum of $10.00 at B-Tiers. We don't believe in giving out a sticker & a mini or forcing you to take an ugly t-shirt valued at $10.00. :lol:
Non PDGA Members add $5.00
Juniors are exempt from the $5.00 Non PDGA Member Fee
Join the PDGA & save $5.00-> http://www.pdga.com/join/index.php (http://www.pdga.com/join/index.php)
Any player with any skill level is welcome. Come hang out with people who love disc golf. All 7 tournaments are run according to PDGA rules.
Check out the rules-> http://www.pdga.com/rules/index.php (http://www.pdga.com/rules/index.php)
On the lower day we always have a first time players rules discussion before the tournaments starts. We are running these events to educate new players and promote the game of disc golf. We run excellent tournaments for Amateur players of all skill levels. We had some of the largest Advanced, Intermediate, & Recreational divisions in the state as well as female participation.
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FORMAT
Registration closes at 9:30AM
Player Meeting starts @ 9:45AM
Please be prompt. We will get started ASAP after the player meeting.
We will be playing at least 2 rounds of 20 holes at each event.
The lunch break will end 1 hour from the last card being turned in. Don't be late. We will get started on time.
Final 4 Safari holes for top 4 players in OPEN on Saturday
We do this to showcase top players in this area.
The awards ceremony will start a few minutes after the Open Final 4 Safari is completed.
A minimum of 100% payout to all divisions.
We usually throw in 2nd round CTP's if the event has average to above average attendance.
We know many of you travel & have a life outside of disc golf. We will do our best to get you on the road as early as possible.
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TROPHY ONLY
What is trophy only?
You may pay the trophy only entry fee and play the event. You are playing for a trophy only. If you finish in a position that is awarded a trophy you get the trophy. You do not get a payout if you finish in a prize/cash finishing position.
Why play trophy only?
You may play trophy only for several reasons.
1. Tired of not having a chance to finish in a cashing spot at events? Save a few bucks and play trophy only.
2. Want to test the field and move up a division without paying the full fee? Save a few bucks and play trophy only.
3. Want a lesson from a professional player? Play pro trophy only for $10.00 and watch and play with the pros.
4. Want to try to hit an ace when the ace pool rolls over & it's $750.00? Intermediate, Rec, and Juniors, move up and play trophy only advanced or pro and you get that opportunity.
Do I get a player pack when I play trophy only?
If you are playing in an amateur division you get a player pack. If you are playing in a pro division you do not get a player pack.
Along with the player pack you also get a chance to shoot for any CTP on the course.
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SERIES POINTS
This series is set up for fun and competition. Overall champions win a trophy and bragging rights. If you play any day of the 2006 Illinois Open Series you are automatically entered into the series. It costs no extra fee to enter the series. There will be no deductions from tournament payouts to pay for overall series champion trophies. See trophy payouts below.
Points only count in the division in which they are earned. For example, if Bruce plays Advanced at the first event and receives 12 points then plays advanced masters at the next event and earns 12 points, he does not have a total of 24 points. He would have 12 points in advanced and 12 points in advanced masters.
Participants will be awarded one point for each tournament entered and one point for each player they beat in their division.
A player who DNFs (Does Not Finish), will receive 0 (zero) points for that tournament.
Overall points will be calculated from best 5 of 7 events.
Any ties for first place at the end of the series will result in a sudden death playoff at the Fairfield Fairwell. A player who is tied for first but is not present automatically loses the playoff.
Dr Dye is the Overall Series Trophy Disc Sponsor. Players finishing in a trophy position will win a sweet Dr. Dyed trophy disc. Check out his website for his work. http://www.drdyed.com/gallery/drdye
OVERALL SERIES TROPHIES
In 2006, some of the larger divisions will have overall series champion trophies for places 1st thru 3rd or 1st thru 5th. These are noted below.
Junior<13 (1)
Junior<16 (1)
Junior<19 (1)
Recreational (5)
Recreational Women (1)
Intermediate (5)
Intermediate Women (1)
Advanced (3)
Advanced Women (1)
Advanced Masters (1)
Advanced Grandmasters (1)
Open (1)
Pro Women (1)
Pro Masters (1)
Pro Grandmasters (1)
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SERIES ACE POOL
Ace Pool is open all day.
Multiple aces are split.
All ace pools that are not hit will rollover to the next day or event.
We may cap the ace as it grows during the year.
If there is money remaining at the end of the series that money will be rolled over to 2007.
There were 4 aces hit in 2005.
IOS #4
Shane Rose, Hole #4 Original, $750.00
IOS #5
Kent Schaffer, Hole #7, $750.00
IOS #7
Brain Lahey, Hole #8, $5??.??
IOS #7
Monroy Gowens, Hole #4, 1??.??
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BRASS CASH
Brass Cash is brass funny money.
Brass Cash is handed out at events to amateur players as their player pack.
Brass Cash is used to payout all amateur division winnings.
Brass cash is used to purchase any items from the merchandise table.
Brass Cash may be spent that day or saved to spend at any other Illinois Open Series event.
If there is merchandise that you want but is not on the table, talk to Bruce Brakel and he will try to accommodate your disc golf addiction. Bruce can get pretty much anything you would want. You can arrange to pick it up at the next event.
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PAYOUTS
PDGA charts will be followed for payouts to all divisions.
Brass Cash is paid out to all amateur divisions except Juniors. Juniors get a
$15.00 player pack and play for a trophy for $10.00
All Pro's play for cash.
Payout Policy: Cash and prizes, including CTPs, not claimed during the awards
ceremony are donated to the tournament process, unless other arrangements have been made with the TD that day.
Event trophies are hand made. They are quite simplistic and represent what place you finish if you win one. This is done to keep the payouts fatter instead of purchasing more expensive trophies that are just as lame and weaking the payouts.
At every tournament there is a Discraft CTP on hole #1. You must throw a Discraft disc to win this CTP.
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HISTORY OF THE IOS
The series started in 2003 as a single event. The event was held at Fairfield Park in Round Lake on August 10, 2003. 95 players attended this one day event. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...urnID=3641#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=3641#Open)
Approximately 15 players had to be turned away. We then realized that PDGA events are in high demand in this area.
2003 Illinois Open Champions
Open-> Kris Hutter
Open Women-> Barrett White
Maters-> Rob Schoenhoft
Advanced-> Sean Butler
Advanced Masters-> Pat McFarland
Intermediate-> Josh Gaughran
Intermediate Women-> Becky Brakel
Intermediate Masters-> Mitch Wallace
Recreational-> Christian McClellan
Junior-> Neal Swanson
In 2004 the Illinois Open Series was established. Along with the Fairfield event, Shady Oaks Park in Streamwood and Lippold Park in Crystal Lake were added. Everyone involved with running the series loves to play disc golf. All 3 events were split day so everyone that volunteered could play.
Shady Oaks Park, Streamwood, IL
(78 Players)
June 26, 2004-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...ID=4400#Pro%202 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4400#Pro%202)
June 27, 2004-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...urnID=4555#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4555#Open)
Lippold Park, Crystal Lake, IL
(80 Players)
July 24, 2004-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...ID=4210#Pro%202 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4210#Pro%202)
July 25, 2004-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...urnID=4556#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4556#Open)
Fairfield Park, Round Lake, IL
(97 Players)
August 28, 2004-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...ID=4401#Pro%202 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4401#Pro%202)
August 29, 2004-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...urnID=4557#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4557#Open)
2004 IOS Champions
Pro2-> Brian Karnov
Adv Master-> Adrian Gutierrez Sr.
Int Women-> Diana Brakel
Intermediate-> Eric Doty
Recreational-> Jon Brakel
Junior-> Adrian Gutierrez Jr.
Open-> Kris Hutter
Pro Master-> Roy Carey
Pro Women-> Barrett White
Advanced-> Justin Schandelmeire
Adv Women-> Jeannine Rice
2005 saw HUGE growth! UW Parkside-Kenosha WI, Madison Meadows-Lombard IL, Anna Page Park-Rockford IL, & Bevier Park-Waukegan IL, expanded the series to 7 events. Not only did the number of events increase, attendance boomed. There were over 140 players at 4 of the 7 events. Rockford is listed in the top 10 of most attended events in 2005. 167 players attended Rockford. Round Lake had one of the biggest Recreational fields of the year with 42 players. The year ended with an average of 128 players at each event over 7 events.
UW-Parkside, Kenosha, WI
(101 Players)
April 23, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5056 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5056)
April 24, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5057 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5057)
Madison Meadows Park, Lombard, IL
(140 Players)
May 28, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5059 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5059)
May 29, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5060 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5060)
Lippold Park, Crystal Lake, IL
(155 Players)
June 25, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5063 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5063)
June 26, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5064 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5064)
Anna Page Park, Rockford, IL
(167 Players)
July 23, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5115 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5115)
Shady Oaks Park, Streamwood, IL
(118 Players)
August 13, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5116 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5116)
August 14, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5117 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5117)
Bevier Park, Waukegan, IL
(77 Players)
September 17, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5118 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5118)
Fairfield Park, Round Lake, IL
(140 Players)
October 15, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5119 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5119)
October 16, 2005-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_...hp?TournID=5120 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5120)
2005 IOS Champions
Open-> Kurt Raffensperger
Masters-> Spike Walker
Grandmsters-> Ron James
Open Women-> Barrett White
Advanced-> Dan Michler
Advanced Masters-> Adrian Gutierrez Sr.
Advanced Grandmastes-> Johnese Holt
Advanced Women-> Kelsey Brakel
Intermediate-> Kevin Lenth
Intermediate Women-> Kiralyn Brakel
Recreational-> Jason Poole
Recreational Women-> Jennifer Fox
Junior <19-> Steven Guther
Junior<16-> Michael Apostolou
Junior<13-> Billy Dickenson
We expect growth across the board in 2006. The disc golf scene in this area is growing rapidly and more and more players are attending tournaments. Auroura is the newest addition in 2006.
Amateurs, 2006 is a GREAT opportunity to start earning points to get invited to the 2007 Am Worlds in Milwaukee, WI. This is a must play for anyone living in the MidWest. We are running all Am B-Tiers so you can accumulate a lot of points so you get your invite. If you are not a PDGA member you better join if you want to play Am Worlds in 2007.
ROCKFORD will be an Advanced Amateur qualifier for the United States Amateur Disc Golf Championships in Milford, MI. You must play advanced at Rockford & finish in the top 20%. This is one of the best Amateur tournaments in the country played on the famous Toboggan course. You can find out more information there-> http://www.amnationals.com/ (http://www.amnationals.com/)
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SPONSORSHIP
Naming rights of individual tournament & full works advertising
$500.00
Score Card Sponsor
$50.00
Hole Sponsorship
$25.00
CTP Sponsor
Dontation of CTP's
Trophy Sponsor
Individual Tournaments
Overall Series Awards Sposor
Contact brett@brasscash.com for more details.
That was quite an edit.
I think everything at brasscash.com is 2005 and before.
We are working on a schedule and format for 2006 that will look a lot like 2005 with the following big differences.
In 2005 we ran a mix of 2-day, 1-day, b-c-d-tier, lower on Saturday and upper on Saturday events with different entry fees every time. In 2006 we are going to go for more uniformity.
Everything will be Am B/Pro C except when the PDGA won't sanction us that way or we have the cash sponsorship to do the pros as a B-tier. The entry fees will be the same for every event, regardless of tier or whether we have a park use fee. The entry fees will be similar to 2005. Our standard lower day entry fee will be the higher of the several different entry fees we had. When we don't have a park use fee, those extra two or three extra bucks will go to payout.
Every event will have a $15 amateur player pack, even if we have to do some of them as C-tiers. For the advanced players Diana is going to run an optional Bonus Payout. Basically, if you'd rather have a bigger payout and no player pack, she'll collect back the player's packs from those players and sign them up for the Bonus Payout. We might do the same for intermediate on Sunday if someone steps up to run it. We will publish a Bonus Payout Table and it will be 100% of what is collected.
ADVANCED and PRO will play SATURDAY, every tournament.
INT, REC and JUNIORS will play SUNDAY, every tournament.
We are doing that mainly for me. It is tough to play two rounds, do an awards ceremony, and then drive 300+ miles home. I'm not that tough anymore. But whenever you want to play the split-day tournament in the neighboring state and our tournament, now it will be possible, and it will be good training for Milwaukee Worlds. So it is a bonus for you, too.
I got Jon and Brett to agree to a lower trophy-only entry fee, but then did the math and realized that we really can't go lower in amateur divisions other than advanced. So it will be $14 for all amateur divisions and you get a $15 Brass player pack. In the pro divisions however, we are dropping it to $10. The bottom line on this is that last year no one played trophy-only pro except Kelsey and one guy who was rehabbing after an injury. Maybe if we make it dirt cheap, more lower ams will pay for the lesson time.
QuoteThat was quite an edit.
Yes, Now i've updated many things.
Brett, could you add the following to the Format section:
All Pros and all Advanced, including all Masters, play SATURDAY.
All Intermediates, Recreationals and Juniors play SUNDAY.
You could also publish the entry fees too.
Division...Full...Trophy-only
All Pros...$45.....$10
All Adv....$35.....$14
All Int......$23.....$14
All Rec....$23.....$14
Juniors.....NA.....$10
I may be blind because I didn't see it but is the ace fund the same as it was for the 2005 IOS ($1 for start, then $2, then $3)?
I think we started at $2, and went to $3 when there was rollover money in there, and capped at $750, and will be doing that again. All I recall us saying about ace pool is, "Same as last year?" "Fine, whatever."
QuoteAll I recall us saying about ace pool is, "Same as last year?"
Damn. I thought I was going to hit one in 2006. I guess some things never change. (sigh)
Please pick Streamwood :)
Should there be a vote for the last pick between Streamwood and Bevier? It would have to be made availiable to every body, not just discontinuum members. Is there a contact list of the people that played in the series that emails can be sent to? It can alert them that a vote was being made on picking the last course for the series.
OK, what Brett said. (Never look to me for a short, to the point answer!)
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In short, if we can find some type of restroom accomodations at Streamwood there will be an IOS there. If not, there won't.
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Neither do I. Just check the 1st post on this thread :lol: .
I vote that Brett bust his butt setting up extra holes at Bevier! :lol:
We need to look into the cost of having the bathrooms open at Streamwood and the cost of getting a porta-potty out there, and then make a decision that works for the people doing the work.
QuoteWe need to look into the cost of having the bathrooms open at Streamwood and the cost of getting a porta-potty out there, and then make a decision that works for the people doing the work.
They have some kind of public works building in the parking lot right by the first tee. I suspect there is a bathroom but that it is normally closed to the public. However, I am not sure. I know I once went in there to wash off my shoes in a sink after walking through the @#$%& in the creek to pick up an errant throw. :( I wasn't supposed to be there but nobody gave a hard time. Perhaps the Village can make a bathroom in that building available for a tournament.
I believe the park dept wants an exorbitant amount of money to have the bathroom open, but I could be mistaking that with another venue from 2005... or my imagination.
they wanted something like 65 a day for handicap accessible port-o-johns from our park district. what about theat business district north of the park? from what i remember that bar had a grand bathroom and it was only a five minute walk.
there is also a McDonald's very close by.
I think the park district wanted several hundred dollars to have the bathrooms open all day for us.
I don't think I'll be sending my 12 year old daughter for a 10 minute walk to use the bathroom at a bar.
Barring some last minute plumbing problem, there will be bathroom facilities of some kind at every IOS in 2006! Now that sounds like a campaign slogan if I ever heard one. :D
QuoteBarring some last minute plumbing problem, there will be bathroom facilities of some kind at every IOS in 2006! Now that sounds like a campaign slogan if I ever heard one. :D
Hey, as best as I recall, there were trees at every one of those events. All is well...oh I guess that does discriminate by the method of elimination. never mind. :lol:
i think the issue is having bathrooms for females. obviuosly the woods are more than good enuf for most of us :D
pick Streamwood.
u don't get to vote if u don't come to the events!
Quotepick Streamwood.
In short, if we can find some type of restroom accomodations at Streamwood there will be an IOS there. If not, there won't.
I have contacted Streamwood to see if they will rent port-a-potties from April to October to place on the course. They have concerns about doing so.
There are also a few options. We are checking to see how much it costs to have someone open the building on Sat/Sun for use. Last year I believe it was going to cost over $200.00 to do so. The other option is to rent a port-0-shitter.
Is there anyone out there that wants to be a port-0-shitter sponsor? $150.00 will cover the weekend. If not there will have to be a course use fee placed for Streamwood.
Brian, will you be there this year?
ill walk to the bar
the bartender was smoking hot last time i was there
if the park is not going to open a bathroom for park useres to use without charging a fee
i would go with the rental of the port a potti
ill put up 10 bucks right now for the potti fund
I'm afraid to cross into Illinois now. That's why I have Johnny to protect me on this board.
I'm in for $10 too. Streamwood is too nice of a course to drop. Plus, it is Spaz's favorite course! We couln't do that to Spaz! So, $10 to the $hitter/Spaz fund!
i'll donate 1 dollar to the shitty spaz fund!! :lol:
Quotei'll donate 1 dollar to the shitty spaz fund!! :lol:
I might donate $20 to keep him away. B)
After all, it was my only decent IOS performance this year. <_<
any premliminary dates for the ios?
Quoteany premliminary dates for the ios?
Dates will not be released until all sites have been confirmed & santioning agreements turned in.
If you have the kind of employment or employer where you have to know four or five months in advance if you want to get the weekend off, we can let you know what we know when we know it. Just send Brett, Jon or me an e-mail. We don't want to publish tentative dates because that will cause confusion for people who never see the updated dates.
I'll throw in $100 to the port-o-shitter fund. Streamwood is my closest course and I still want to play it in an IOS tourey. :D
So I'm wondering if there is a preview of what the new 2006 IOS trophies will look like?
I've updated the first post. The dates won't be official until the PDGA approves them. That should be very soon.
I added some sponsor information on the bottom & a few minor details here & there.
Let me know of any problems or mistakes. There should be no questions from players if they read the entire post prior to attending.
From the first post:
QuoteDo I get a player pack when I play trophy only?
All amateur players get a player pack. Pros to not get a player pack.
Could you change that to:
Do I get a player pack when I play trophy only?
If you are playing in an amateur division you get a player pack. If you are playing in a pro division you do not get a player pack.
Good news-- Streamwood is on the schedule. I guess the potty issues have been er, rectified. :)
bad news-- Jewish new year is the 23rd. :(
u can always play the adv/pro day then
Quote>>bad news-- Jewish new year is the 23rd. :( >>
u can always play the adv/pro day then
...perhaps a 'pro-Shashanah' division...
but isn't pro/adv always on Sat (the 23rd) this season anyhow?
The 23rd is the pro/adv day. Its the first day. No can do. The 24th is int/rec. Its the second day when I could but shouldn't play. I guess it depends on whether guilt helps my putting.
We scheduled around Easter and Christmas. Maybe you could convert. :D
QuoteFrom the first post:
QuoteDo I get a player pack when I play trophy only?
All amateur players get a player pack. Pros to not get a player pack.
Could you change that to:
Do I get a player pack when I play trophy only?
If you are playing in an amateur division you get a player pack. If you are playing in a pro division you do not get a player pack.
Fixed
QuoteQuote>>bad news-- Jewish new year is the 23rd. :( >>
u can always play the adv/pro day then
...perhaps a 'pro-Shashanah' division...
but isn't pro/adv always on Sat (the 23rd) this season anyhow?
Yes, September 23rd is a Saturday and in 2006 all advanced and pros are playing on Saturdays at IOS tournaments.
QuoteIf you have the kind of employment or employer where you have to know four or five months in advance if you want to get the weekend off, we can let you know what we know when we know it. Just send Brett, Jon or me an e-mail. We don't want to publish tentative dates because that will cause confusion for people who never see the updated dates.
i would like this info under the promise not to diseminate bad info
spuds, look at post #1 in this thread
How firm are the dates posted at the beginning of this thread? I should start turning in requests to get weekends off from work.
duh
QuoteHow firm are the dates posted at the beginning of this thread? I should start turning in requests to get weekends off from work.
The dates are solid. There still might be a venue swap or a sanctioning level change, but the dates are locked in. That is the schedule we want to go with, so we are just waiting on the PDGA for their approval of sanctioning.
I put all the dates in the calendar & linked them to the first post in this thread
Quote from: tree on January 14, 2006, 03:22:16 AM
How firm are the dates posted at the beginning of this thread? I should start turning in requests to get weekends off from work.
Just a wee update: the paperwork and the money are in. Now we just wait. They won't notify us. They'll just put our dates up on the PDGA tour when they are approved.
they just posted IOS 4 through 7 on the site today
#1 should be up shortly. Dave Gentry and I are talking about 2 and 3. If they decide that either 2 or 3 has to be unsanctioned because of other tournaments on the same weekend that don't actually draw from the same pool of players, either of those events might go unsanctioned or at another venue.
The dates are as good as any others. There are zone of exclusion conflicts on 12 out of 14 consecutive weekends April through July, so it is really just a question of whether the PDGA wants to sanction our events too.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on January 19, 2006, 04:14:32 PM
#1 should be up shortly. Dave Gentry and I are talking about 2 and 3. If they decide that either 2 or 3 has to be unsanctioned because of other tournaments on the same weekend that don't actually draw from the same pool of players, either of those events might go unsanctioned or at another venue.
The dates are as good as any others. There are zone of exclusion conflicts on 12 out of 14 consecutive weekends April through July, so it is really just a question of whether the PDGA wants to sanction our events too.
May... Lombard vs. Madison... hmm, maybe I can see a conflict there. (I think I'd rather play in Madison myself, mainly since I never shoot well at Lombard.)
June... Crystal Lake vs. .... A-tier in Ann Arbor? Oskaloosa IA??? Reykjavik?????
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May... Lombard vs. Madison... hmm, maybe I can see a conflict there. (I think I'd rather play in Madison myself, mainly since I never shoot well at Lombard.)
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Wrong my friend. St. Louis is the problem.
Wrong my friend. St. Louis is the problem.
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You gotta be kidding. That's 300, count 'em, miles. Do they understand that the popuation around Chicago (and St. Louis for that matter) is way more dense than bumble&@*$(ville) where their office is. I think St. Louis has some great courses but I am not driving 300 miles. Madison Meadows is a pretty cool course but I'm sure the Gateway chuckers aint coming up here in droves either. There are too many smileys for idiocy on the board here so I won't bother. I think this one is self-explanatory.
I'm trying to explain that to them. We don't get many players from Peoria, Bloomington, Urbana or any of the disc golfing communities halfway to St Louis so its not like we are competing for the same pool of players. Last year we had a very well attended event at Lombard on the same weekend as they had a very well attended event at Kenosha, so its not like there is a shortage of players that needs to be rationed. We scheduled around the M/NT/As in Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota. With 11 of those in 14 consecutive weeks, April through July, we can't schedule around everything. So it is just a matter of whether the PDGA wants our money or not.
Quote from: Chainmeister on January 19, 2006, 08:11:03 PM
Wrong my friend. St. Louis is the problem.
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You gotta be kidding. That's 300, count 'em, miles. Do they understand that the popuation around Chicago (and St. Louis for that matter) is way more dense than bumble&@*$(ville) where their office is. I think St. Louis has some great courses but I am not driving 300 miles. Madison Meadows is a pretty cool course but I'm sure the Gateway chuckers aint coming up here in droves either. There are too many smileys for idiocy on the board here so I won't bother. I think this one is self-explanatory.
I hadn't even considered St. Louis, since it seemed so far out of the realm of rational possibility. then again, I forgot about some of the new guidelines for 'zone of exclusion' this year...
It is looking like the PDGA will lets us do C-tiers for those two events, which is fine by me if they will also let us run them to amateur B-tier standards. After experimenting with a lot of different formats over the last five years, I'd like to do a series where we just do one thing that almost everyone seems to like. :rolleyes:
I am pleased to annouce that DR. DYE will be sponsoring the Overall Series Champion Dyed Trophy Discs. If you are lucky enough to finish in a trophy position in the series overall points race you will receive a Dr. Dyed Trophy Disc. Check here to see some of his work. They are sweet!!! http://www.drdyed.com/gallery/drdye
Thank you Jo-Jo! I'd rather win one of yours than one of mine! :wav:
Quote from: CEValkyrie on January 22, 2006, 07:49:24 PM
I am pleased to annouce that DR. DYE will be sponsoring the Overall Series Champion Dyed Trophy Discs. If you are lucky enough to finish in a trophy position in the series overall points race you will receive a Dr. Dyed Trophy Disc. Check here to see some of his work. They are sweet!!! http://www.drdyed.com/gallery/drdye
O0 :color:
COOLNot that it means anything to me personally, but cool anyway.
I wanted to say something encouraging, like, you're getting good enough you could contend for a season overall disc in Rec this year, but I'm writing a criminal appellate brief right now and can't be wasting any credibility.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on January 23, 2006, 10:58:36 AM
I wanted to say something encouraging, like, you're getting good enough you could contend for a season overall disc in Rec this year, but I'm writing a criminal appellate brief right now and can't be wasting any credibility.
The complaining witness testified that she was three feet from defendant at a day game at Wrigley Field and Defendant was wearing a Houston Astros hat, a green t-shirt with a beer stain running from the left shoulder down the back towards th middle backi near the thoracic spine, had a handle bar mustache and had a gold tooth. However, she could not remember whether it was an incisor or a bicuspid. Her identification of the defendant is dubious given her inability to remember detailsI'll buy a disc from Joe because the defendant has better odds than me. Thanks anyway.
Anyway, all the IOS events are now shown on PDGA.com. Crystal Lake will be a C-tier. For our players all that means is that the points multiplier will be lower. We are doing player packs for that C-tier this year. We're doing a brass side bet for players who would rathe have a bigger payout and no player pack.
I see all the events are now on the PDGA tournament page. Is www.brasscash.com going to be updated? Also, are there any flyers? I'd like to take some with me to the Big Chill and post them at local courses.
That is fantastic to see Dr. Dye is the overall series trophy sponsor! Are there going to be new trophies for each event this year? The others are getting quite old.
Brett has a proto-flyer. Brett, post your proto-flyer. I think brasscash.com is going to get updated.
Here is Brett's proto-flyer. It has all the info that you need on a flyer. www.brasscash.com (http://www.brasscash.com) should be updated by the end of this weekend. Although since Brett is so good at getting and organizing the information, all I do is copy, paste and format when I make the web page...so if you want a sneak preview just take a look at Brett's first post.
www.brasscash.com (http://www.brasscash.com)
has been updated for 2006. Still needs some clean up and formatting but the info is all there. Let me know if you see any mistakes or omissions.
Sweet!
There has been a change of the Am Nationals qualifier. It will not be Rockford.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on January 30, 2006, 07:19:38 AM
Sweet!
There has been a change of the Am Nationals qualifier. It will not be Rockford.
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Don't you mean that it IS rockford and NOT lombard?
initially it was going to be in rockford, but the invitations wouldnt be out in time for the amnationals so it was moved to lombard
Quote from: Dan Michler on January 30, 2006, 08:54:28 AM
Don't you mean that it IS rockford and NOT lombard?
Doh, I was trying to squeeze that post in before the bell rang.
AM NATIONALS QUALIFIER IS NOW @ ROCKFORD
I exchanged e-mails with Todd White yesterday. He decided that Rockford would work better for the Am Nationals process than Lombard because of the locations and dates of other qualifiers. We wanted Rockford originally, but he thought it was too late. Now he thinks better late than whenever. I'm good with this. I want to go-along-get-along with the Am Nationals process so we can get a qualifier every year.
Jon/Bruce - Can one of you post or send me an image of a single brass coin? I'm working on a new preregistration system & need it...
Thanks
I can from home but don't have access to it at work.
ditto
whomever, as long its a nice shiny coin.
I was not at home much yesterday. Today looks home-lite too.
The club received 5 Marshall St. DVD's from the initial order placed thru the link on the club site. The will be given out as CTP's at a few IOS events. I also heard that Marshall St. donated a ton of DVD's & each TD packet is going to have one.
excellent
Online preregistration is live! You can register for one or all events at http://store.discontinuum.org
i've seen on a couple posts that some of the events may change to pro b tiers - what ones are likely candidates? and what will it ake to make this happen? is there anything that we can do to help in this process?
Quote from: whofarted on February 10, 2006, 12:18:54 PM
i've seen on a couple posts that some of the events may change to pro b tiers - what ones are likely candidates? and what will it ake to make this happen? is there anything that we can do to help in this process?
Any of them "could" be a pro B except for Crystal Lake. The PDGA is making us run Crystal Lake as a C tier because of the new 2006 AREA rules. Rockford is a pro B thanks to Greg. It takes sponsorship cash. If someone comes up with enough sponsorship cash and they want to ear mark it for a pro B tier, we would be happy to work with the PDGA to make that happen. I think our players have shown enough support for these events to justify B-tier status for any of them if we can come up with the sponsor cash.
rockford isnt a b-tier yet - but hopefully it will be soon (crossing fingers). i was thinking about starting a bag tag with some disc prizes for the winners to get a little closer to the 500 mark. 50 people at 10 bucks a head and that is it. pay the winners out the morning of the tournament or something.
Myk or Mike,
Wasn't sure if it was Myk or Mike that called me regarding my PDGA membeship and online registration for IOS1, but, yes, I am a PDGA member. So, could you please refund my $5.15? Thanks for catching that.
Doug
Doug: How about MIRTH
sorry Mirth. I can't hear so good. Thanks.
The Aurora event might move to the previous weekend to accomodate a couple of other tournaments. Just a note to watch this space for further updates.
I have other announcements I'm dying to make, but the deal is still in the works. So I'm just going to have to keep dying for a little while.
Note on your calendar that IOS #6 at Aurora has been moved to 9-16 & 9-17.
Just pre-registered for IOS #1. Are we going to be able to view the pre-registered field?
Quote from: Drathe on March 14, 2006, 03:08:29 PM
Just pre-registered for IOS #1. Are we going to be able to view the pre-registered field?
The PDGA just sent me the passwords to update the tournaments, so once I get the pre-reg info I'll start updating the PDGA tourney listing.
Moved to appropriate thread.
I'm thinking about registering for IOS #2. I've only been playing for 6 months now, and just this past Sunday I shot a 74 at that course, which is the best I've done there (and the posted par is 71, so I'm definitely not that great). All of those were from the white tees, which is whatever the middle level would be. I did finally get a 4 on that really tough long hole #19. I've never been in or to a tournament before, so I'm fairly clueless as to how the format would work. I think I know enough about the rules to know how to mark my lie and staying behind the marker and where my footing has to be and all that stuff.
Are there groups of people that play each hole at a time? or is it one at a time? I would presume there's some sort of officiating?
I'll be able to continue playing that course and work on getting better, but I'd think that I'd want to play with the intermediate group, correct? I just wish it wasn't on a Sunday, it's tough for me to clear up a sunday morning. I also don't have a PDGA number, so I understand there's an extra $5 fee there. That's ok because I don't think I'll be able to play in too many tournament-type things. I think I'd like to get a little bit better as well before I join up.
So many questions!
Scott
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5060
There is a link that has scores from last year. The cements were played both rounds. There were 20 holes for a par of 60.
I would suggest playing Recreational at your first event. We have a first time players clinic prior to the first round. You will be sent out in at a minimum of a 3-some depending on how many players are there. Players in the group are responsible for scoring and calling rules violations.
Yes, add $5.00 if you are not a PDGA member. We hope to see you out there! I was hooked after my first event.
Scott,
For some people coming to their first tournament helps them take their game to the next level. I would suggest approaching the experience thinking that you are coming to have fun and learn something from your first tournament experience. Don't be put off by the title "Recreational Division". It is a bad name. Play Recreational and try not to put too much emphasis on how you perform at your first tournament. I would also suggest to play trophy only for your first event.
I also think you should play Rec. Am 3 would be a better name for the division. You are more likely to find players at your skill level in Rec, and that will make the event more fun. Rec players are mostly pretty good players compared to all the players you'll see on a course on a sunny Saturday.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 20, 2006, 06:40:32 PM
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5060
There is a link that has scores from last year. The cements were played both rounds. There were 20 holes for a par of 60.
I would suggest playing Recreational at your first event. We have a first time players clinic prior to the first round. You will be sent out in at a minimum of a 3-some depending on how many players are there. Players in the group are responsible for scoring and calling rules violations.
Yes, add $5.00 if you are not a PDGA member. We hope to see you out there! I was hooked after my first event.
What was the 20th hole? I have my work cut out for me if I was 74 after 19 then heh.
I fully intend to go out there to just have fun. I know that I'm not going to win the very first time going out to play, especially if I've only been playing a couple of months. I'm still working on my mechanics for both drives and putts. At least there's 2 more month before the event!
Does anyone have individual hole pars so that I can compare it to how I've thrown? I know that at some point in playing the course I've thrown par or better on every hole, but with a par of 60 that means a lot of those par 5's are going to be 4's or even 3's.
Sounds like fun :)
Scott
The 20th hole tee was near the grill by the pavillion. The basket was on the other side of the pine trees west of the parking lot.
Fun is the name of the game. I think you'll have a good time & learn a lot of things about disc golf. Watching players that are better than you are the key to getting better.
All holes are par 3. For rec i'd say #19 is a par 4. Can't remember the other hole by the baseball fields but that one is probably par 4 as well for rec.
Is there a registration form for the 2006 IOS? It is coming up quick. I would like to save a little money by sending in a check.
QuoteENTRY FEES
(PLEASE PREREGISTER)
Avoid the wait in line. We averaged 128 players per event last year and expect an increase in 2006 with the subtraction of our lowest drawing event and an addition of Aurora. Our goal is 1000+ players over 7 events which would be over 140 players per event.
If you preregister go the the score board when you get there and check in. You don't have to stand in line. If you are playing in any amateur division make sure to ask for your $15.00 brass cash player pack.
1. Make check out to DISContinuum Disc Golf Club
Send to
Allan Short
17515 W Bridle Ct
Gurnee, IL 60031
Checks must be received the Friday prior to the event.
Preregistration Policy->
If the TD is contacted Friday or before the event weekend, the preregistered players money will be held and can be used at any of the IOS events left in 2006. If they don't show to any of the later events the money will be used in the prize pool at the final event. If the TD is not contacted Friday or before the event weekend the money will be added to the prize pool that weekend.
2. You may also preregister online at -> http://store.discontinuum.org/index.php?cPath=24
3. You can pay Brett Comincioli prior to the event. He is usaually at the course the Friday before each event. You can pay at local leagues or any other time you see Brett on the course.
4. If you are a Sunday player you can stop by during the event and pay on Saturday.
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Quote from: Tom McManus on March 21, 2006, 06:07:45 PM
Is there a registration form for the 2006 IOS? It is coming up quick. I would like to save a little money by sending in a check.
I'll be getting registration forms into the hands of Brett soon. I'll post one on the brasscash site soon also. If you want to send a check before then, just include your pdga# with your check--that's the important part.
PDGA # and Division would be helpful.
is there a flyer i could print out to leave at crysal lake ?
Quote from: airspuds on March 25, 2006, 04:42:32 AM
is there a flyer i could print out to leave at crysal lake ?
Go to flyer help topic. There is a link there.
found it
I saw the stuff that you put up at Crystal Lake with the scorecards. There were only maybe 3 sheets of paper left in there. But because of the goofy weather they weren't in the greatest of shape. It might be worthwhile to go back out there and check it out again.
Scott
yeah it was a quick butcher job i had like 10 flyers
i was short on time and resources
best idea would be to laminate and staple it to either post
what did u think of including score card on it ?
I thought it was a great idea, although the image for download can be tough to see discontinuum.org in the top left corner, need a higher resolution graphic. I would have used one for playing the round, but since it was one of those rainy type days, the pages weren't really dry, and I left them there.
hmm, I don't remember seeing it at all yesterday, anyone else play and see the sign posted on the right on the first tee? There were plenty of enough people there to think they needed to have a bright idea and tear it down. There were also plenty of people there to no be considerate and try to take your head off on their drives when you were trying to walk down the pathway to leave (we left early, too many people).
When I use the scorecard, I print it out on a thicker stock of paper. That tends to work out a lot better. I also print 2 to a page (although I should reverse the page and print 4 to a page). An ideal situation would be to have some "official" type of scorecards printed out advertising the IOS and discontinuum at the same time and make the scorecards pocket sized (eg. UW-Parkside's scorecards) Who knows if people would treat the scorecards responsibly and not just take them all out of whatever box you might put them in and then just do whatever they wanted to with them. Maybe this type of idea would work better at a different course entirely. Lippold needs a locked message board.
I don't know if this has ever been proposed, but could i pay for a pre-reg with brass?
I think you can but it costs more
The PDGA, Discraft, Innova and and the local park district all want cash, or something a lot more like cash than Brass, when we pay them off. So we need to collect cash at the beginning of the process. You ought to try selling your Brass for cash to other disc golfers to see what you can get for it. From me you can get discs, hats, shirts, towels, birdie bags, the Golo game, an occasional hip flask or screw driver, one time I even had watches! But a player who wants that stuff might trade you money for your Brass if you made him a deal.
After the Lombard tournament Brass was being valued at 66 cents on the dollar by whoever was running the long drive game. That was entirely unrelated to the tournament, but they were letting players in for $2 or 3 Brass. That might be a fair value since you get 15 Brass in the morning for a $10 value player pack.
go for the hip flask, if available.
Brett do you have Series Points updated?
I just finished and sent in IOS #6 and IOS #7 TD reports which are the last 4 TD reports that I have to do for 2006! ;D I just felt the need to share.
Thank you for getting all that done. Speaking of just wanting to share, Emily Dickenson is thinking about playing mixed doubles tomorrow. Kelsey will sign up as Robert Frost, so no one will object!
I can't find the post about the results from IOS #7 not being posted properly by the PDGA. I received an e-mail from David Gentry today saying that he has discovered the problem and will fix it on his next update which he thinks will be at the end of the week.
IOS #7 points are posted.
OK, with that last event's points finally posted, I ended the year with 1073 points. Anyone got an educated guess as to whether or not that will get me an invite to Milwaukee next year?
If I understand this right, that puts you 58th out of 170. You need to be better than 43rd out of 170 to get the invitation.
Tim,
Check the thread I just bumped under the PDGA thread. You should get an automatic invite with 1700 points. Last year 1000 was the cutoff. That might go up this year but not that much.
The 2006 Illinois Open Series included four of the 20 best attended tournaments in the PDGA last year. We did not get credit for it in the DGW because we run split day events. Here is a partially corrected list of the PDGA Top 14:
04/01-02/06 Bowling Green Am Champs..........0 554 554
07/25-29/06 PDGA Am Worlds........................0 545 545
03/03-05/06 The Memorial..........................206 177 383
08/09-12/06 PDGA Pro Worlds.....................299 0 299
07/29-30/06 IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy..........48 176 224
06/09-11/06 KC Wide Open..........................93 131 224
08/19-20/06 San Francisco Safari..................60 156 216
05/27-28/06 Greater Des Moines Challenge....77 137 214
04/08-09/06 PDGA Am World Doubles.............0 210 210
06/24-25/06 IOS #3 The Crystal Cruise.........34 175 209
06/10-11/06 Steady Ed's Birthday Memorial...48 160 208
04/22-23/06 IOS #1 at Kenosha....................41 162 203
05/20-21/06 IOS #2 at Lombard...................35 167 202
06/03-04/06 Minnesota Majestic....................85 111 196
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Quote from: bruce_brakel on January 10, 2007, 11:07:41 PM
We did not get credit for it in the DGW because we run split day events.
Yeah, that sucks. What's their take on this? Is it because someone could play up a division one day & come back the next?
Rick Rothstein said that once, but since they treat NT/As the same as split days, it looks like they just have a way of sorting raw PDGA data by number of players and they publish that. For example, they also treated the Memorial as two tournaments, bumping it out of its rightful spot at #3. No one could play in two divisions at the Memorial. Similarly they treated the Texas States as two tournaments. Texas States is a A/B, not a split day. So anything for which the PDGA charges one sanctioning fee but requires two TD reports gets reported as two tournaments.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on January 11, 2007, 07:01:45 AM
So anything for which the PDGA charges one sanctioning fee but requires two TD reports gets reported as two tournaments.
You would think that grouping them together would put up bigger attendance numbers which would be more attractive to Sponsors. But it's easy to armchair quarterback.
Rick told me it is a PDGA thing and he just reports them as they are reported to him.
I updated the list at PDGA.com on the thread there where I'm soliciting nominees.
Pictures from IOS #6 have been posted.
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=45&g2_itemId=49