Never too early to get this thread started.
I'm in. Kelsey's in. ;D
Definitely want to. Too far off to make any promises, though.
I plan on playing
I definitely hope on being there. It's my top goal of the year to at least get invited to it. If that happens I'll be there in a heartbeat.
For you Illinois Boys who do not want to drive back and forth I have some space in my backyard for camping out, do not have a large amount of space but I am 5 minutes from Dretzka.
do you have a wife?
R U Telling me I should check with her first before giving up my yard?
Or is it because I am giving my yard and not my rec room in the basement :) ;D
actually i was planning to hit on her.
Well, Thats what I thought originally!
im in if invited
Well, its sure great to be old. ::) It takes a whole lot less points to get in as a master (I will be only one year away from grandmaster, damn :occasion15:) than as a normal person. This means that you can still get in if you are old even if you still suck. My goal this year is to nickel-dime enough points to get an invite. If so, I have friends in the area and will stay there. Don't think I will hit on the misses though. Flattery yes, hit, no. I'll leave that to the young guys who have more points and longer drives. >:D
I figured Dan was going there - but wasnt going to let him hide his true motive for the question.
It could be a little easier for us Younger guys who SUCK to get invited - played 7 events and only got 117pts.
well it should be easy enough for us mediocre juniors, i tink you only need 75 points or something, im loking forward to it
Quote from: amdiscgolfer on February 22, 2006, 02:29:43 PM
It could be a little easier for us Younger guys who SUCK to get invited - played 7 events and only got 117pts.
I'm not saying this to be hurtful, but to be helpful. And I'm not saying this to Jeff but to anyone in that situation:
If you want to get an invitation to Worlds on points, you can do so even if you are not yet competitive in Advanced. The trick is to play tournaments that have good attendance in a division where you are competitive. Don't play tournaments that don't offer a division where you are competitive.
Jason Poole got 950 points last year. He mostly played rec and intermediate except for the occasional ass-kicking in advanced. He was the kickee. And, by playing in a division where he had to play his best to win, instead of playing in a division where he had no hope after the first five holes were done, Jason moved his rating up 120 points from May to December last year.
Most players will pay less money, win more stuff, have more fun, get more points and improve faster if they are playing in a division where they are competing for a trophy, rather than just donating and goofing around all day.
It also helps to practice a little more and play fewer casual rounds. You already know how to walk, so you need to focus your practice time more on throwing, less on walking.
I agree with Bruce here. However, maybe some people dont' have a choice what division to play in based on what days they are free.
The cutoff for Advanced is 915. in my mind it would make more sense if the average advanced player was 940 rated instead of about 920 rated. a top advanced player would be around 960-970 (instead they all donate to the pros).
Look at the prereg list for Bowling Green
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5466
There are a ton of guys prereg'd for advanced that are below 915. I'm not sure why to be honest. We're all just sucky amateurs, so you might as well play in the proper amateur division and have fun.
I suppose its stupid for me to say this, as its nice to be still cashing in advanced even when I play bad thanks to the large quantity of Int/Rec players in my division. But i'd rather that everybody have fun.
A lot of the players who are 915 minus-minus and playing advanced at Bowling Green are from disc golfing communities that have not gotten with the new system. Where they are from the division you play reflects on your virility rather than your skill. Where they are from the 860 rated player playing advanced has the right to mock the 860 rated player in rec or intermediate, even though he is no better. He has pecking order because he is man enough to play advanced. If this seems foreign to you, Tennessee is still pretty foreign to Chicago or Milwaukee. Also, there are a lot of people who believe, in a very religious way, that if they get their ass kicked over and over, that is the quick way to getting good. Kind of like beating yourself with whips during Ramadan or something. Nothing I learned in four years of behavioral psychology classes would lend any credence to that theory, but what do I know? All I know about behavioral psychology is reflected in my parenting skills. You tell me.
I played advanced last year as most of the people I play with stepped up to advanced. I have decided to step down and play not only my rating but my skill level as well. This is not an excuse --> I have not exactly had the most amount of Free time since we just bought a house, have a 2 1/2 year old and one on the way :o ;D. And now with the latter of that sentence can rest assured that I wont have any new found freedom. Which puts the KIBosh on even thinking about going to Bowling Green. I can still get in on the Waiting list, Hopefully! If not, I'll still take the week off and help Terry and the Boys work the event.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on February 21, 2006, 11:11:16 AM
I'm in. Kelsey's in. ;D
Who knows, could be Kelsey's last tournament in the women's amateur divisions. If you did not see me bragging about my kid on the other thread, she threw a 900 round last weekend.
So as a person who just started playing last year, and who is planning on playing tournaments for the first time this year, will playing in all 7 IOS and 3 others for a total of 10 tournies this year be enough to get an invite??? I plan on playing rec until my rating dictates otherwise. I have no ego to feed by doing anything else.
It depends upon [A] how good you are and what those other three tournaments are, but I would guess you need to play at least 15 tournaments and you need to be disciplined about playing the division where you can beat the most players, except perhaps at the Michiana or other select A-tiers.
The standard for an Illinois player to get in this year was 1000 points. You can get 75 to 150 points playing rec if you are playing well for rec at an IOS. I don't think we had any point inversion scenarios at the IOS events where the same level of play would get you more points in a higher division. However, at the Michiana so many players played up to Advanced that for the same level of play most amateurs would have received more points in advanced than in a division indicated by their rating. And at many A-tiers you can get 40 or 50 points merely by finishing in Advanced becase you do get points on all the Advanced DNFs. At A-tiers that do not offer lower divisions there will usually be local rec players playing for fun in Advanced. So there are lots of strategies with A-tiers.
I worked these angles to get invited to 2004 Am Worlds. I played intermediate instead of am master for the points. I looked for some tournaments that did not have rec divisions because intermediate then gets those rec players as pool fodder. But the intermediate strategies are different from the rec strategies.
And no strategy beats actual practice.
Well I have no business in ADV at Bowling Green but I'm doing it anyways. Not that I'm not taking the tournament seriously, but I know I dont have a chance in hell even if I play my best. I'm playing ADV because if I'm driving all the way down there, I'm playing the good courses. I have friends in Bowling Green and I'm there to have a good time more than anything. Just playing competitively on those courses is good enough. Plus, I find that I play much better around good players. I wont get as frustrated if I miss a putt or something.
You seem to have a fairly stable rating, but if you have been playing a lot over the winter maybe you've moved up. If you shoot close to your rating in Advanced at Bowling Green you might get clost to 100 points. Do the same in intermediate and you get 600-700 points. If points and prizes don't matter, the Advanced pools do play the better courses, and you will be in the lower advanced pool with other players about your skill level.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on February 23, 2006, 12:07:06 PM
You seem to have a fairly stable rating, but if you have been playing a lot over the winter maybe you've moved up. If you shoot close to your rating in Advanced at Bowling Green you might get clost to 100 points. Do the same in intermediate and you get 600-700 points. If points and prizes don't matter, the Advanced pools do play the better courses, and you will be in the lower advanced pool with other players about your skill level.
I've only played a handful of rounds this winter. I'll probably be pretty rusty at the tournament. I think I've gotten smarter with my play though... I dropped a few molds out of the bag and stopped worrying so much about distance off the tee- Now I'm shooting the same scores as I was this summer, but I'm out of shape and the weather sucks. I should play better this year.
Anyways, from what I hear it doesnt really matter if you get enough points for an invite. On the PDGA boards they have been saying that pretty much everyone on the waiting list gets in. I plan on playing enough tournaments this year to get 1000 points anyways.
getting smarter is always good...i'm still pretty dumb though when i play. the best way to improve is to play ALOT.
I agree with Dan. Repetition is key when striving for consistency. Being smart doesn't hurt either.
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