Was looking at the tee times for the Memorial next weekend for ams cuz there was a couple guys I know playing. I saw Mills was talking about how he was gonna be there but didn't see his name? Then I looked at the pro tee times, HA! He is paired with Barry Schulltz in the last tee time of the day! How nervous is that kid gonna be? My hands would be shaking. I wonder if he'll be telling Barry about all the incredible shots he could throw if he wanted.
I will give Mills a 1:1,000,000,000,000 chance of coming out on top the 1st round.
Quote from: Dan Michler on February 27, 2006, 05:36:26 AM
Was looking at the tee times for the Memorial next weekend for ams cuz there was a couple guys I know playing. I saw Mills was talking about how he was gonna be there but didn't see his name? Then I looked at the pro tee times, HA! He is paired with Barry Schulltz in the last tee time of the day! How nervous is that kid gonna be? My hands would be shaking. I wonder if he'll be telling Barry about all the incredible shots he could throw if he wanted.
I will give Mills a 1:1,000,000,000,000 chance of coming out on top the 1st round.
I'll put up a penny and take the other end of those odds.
considering how he shot in Vegas last weekend. I would say he'll be teeing off at the ass crack of dawn the rest of the tournament.
We all wish we could be there...
the PDGA thread on this is great....last few pages are the ones to read.
' ass crack in Scottsdale/Fountain Hills might be better than the Frozen Tundra in P1.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on February 27, 2006, 05:53:04 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on February 27, 2006, 05:36:26 AM
Was looking at the tee times for the Memorial next weekend for ams cuz there was a couple guys I know playing. I saw Mills was talking about how he was gonna be there but didn't see his name? Then I looked at the pro tee times, HA! He is paired with Barry Schulltz in the last tee time of the day! How nervous is that kid gonna be? My hands would be shaking. I wonder if he'll be telling Barry about all the incredible shots he could throw if he wanted.
I will give Mills a 1:1,000,000,000,000 chance of coming out on top the 1st round.
I'll put up a penny and take the other end of those odds.
okay, Bruce. But if Barry withdraws cuz of injury the bet is nulled :)
one penny at those odds bruce could win 10 billion, Dan would have a tough time paying that one off
Quote from: Cannon Boy on March 01, 2006, 03:56:39 PM
one penny at those odds bruce could win 10 billion, Dan would have a tough time paying that one off
Abbott pays the big bucks buddy. I got it covered.
If Michler could only get everyone on the planet to take the penny end of this bet, he could buy Abbott. And put baskets on the lawn.
actually wouldn't that only get me like 60 million bucks? prolly not enuf to become the primary shareholder for abbott, but i have much better uses for that money involving disc golf. and a plasma screen tv! and i'd get a better cable package. thats about it.
Wow, I had no idea Abbott Labs was so big. 60,000 employees. $66 billion market capitalization. $22 billion annual sales. Looking great on your projected earnings. Yeah, 60 million is chump change if you're trying to take over the corporation.
When is my penny at risk, right now or tomorrow?
Right now!
Waterford's highest rated player is in the club house with an anemic 960 something rated round, 20 points below his rating. Mills and Barry don't have scores up yet and probably won't have scores up for three more hours.
Go Mills! Papa needs a new pair of shoes! Or private islands on this bet!
Terry Miller shot a pretty good round, but there are still a lot of big guns still out on the course.
Sorry everybody who took that bet.
Mills shot a 990 round which is great! However, that ain't gittin it done. was 11 shots back of Barry.
pay up!
Ha! I was waiting for that. I'm going to give Dan a check for $10,000,000,000 and ask for change.
The preacher man from Washington Street Baptist Church in Ludington, Michigan, is leading in Pro Grand. He rarely gets to play tournaments because of his work schedule including a lot of Sundays.
After 8 rounds this year Barry has 2 wins & looking like he'll have his 3rd if he keeps up his 1063 golf. Wow!!
Z-Boaz
1033
1072
1066
Gentlemen's Cup
1047
1076
1062
Memorial
1062
1091
???
After 6 holes Barry has a 4 shot lead, he is relentless. The other players are so talented, it has to be frustrating when you play so well and can't keep up with him. Having a chance to see the live scoring is great.
only 4 of barry's rounds since december have been rated under 1050, apparently hes gotten much better recently wow O0
The new rating system is inflating rounds more than Chuck Kennedy is willing to admit. Chuck says the unofficial ratings might be as much as 8 points too high, but the new official ratings are calling my lackluster 920 rounds to be 940 rounds and 950 rounds.
If you go through the Memorial ratings it is hard to find players who did not shoot over their rating for the weekend. Looks like a majority of players shot about 20 ponts over their rating per round.
Here's a good example: If you compare last year's March Mudder at Temperance with this years Ice Bowl, same course, weather not that much different, just colder for the ice bowl, from both the longs and shorts the ratings are 40 points higher this year.
If you go look at ratings for advanced players nationwide it looks like the PDGA is offering advanced players cash subsidies to not move up! It looks like we have the biggest batch of baggers in the history of the sport, and that the number of baggers has just skyrocketed from four or five guys waiting for Worlds to 40 or 50 guys.
The new system is generating ratings way too high.
its really just a number to compare you to other players though. regardless if barry's rounds are 1090 or 990, if its better than everybody else, then it must be pretty good.
Barry is the best. I'm not saying anything against him. Barry is the best because he keeps collecting the biggest check at the end of the tournament. He's dominating the way Climo did when he was younger.
I'm just saying that we have no idea whether 1080 this year means the same thing it meant a year ago or three years ago. Z-Boaz had six 1050+ rated rounds this year versus one a year ago, on the same number of open pro rounds. The Memorial had twice as many 1050 rounds this year over last year as a percentage of open pro rounds. I'm getting 950 ratings for scores that were rated 910 or 920 last year. The ratings system is kicking out higher numbers for the same performance. Vienna Park played easier this year because there was no snow, very little ice, very few puddles and no mud. And it kicked out ratings for everyone that were 30-40 points higher than last year.
So it is the string of 1s that show how good Barry is. Those four digit numbers aren't telling us anything.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on March 06, 2006, 06:57:40 AM
Barry is the best. I'm not saying anything against him. Barry is the best because he keeps collecting the biggest check at the end of the tournament. He's dominating the way Climo did when he was younger.
I'm just saying that we have no idea whether 1080 this year means the same thing it meant a year ago or three years ago. Z-Boaz had six 1050+ rated rounds this year versus one a year ago, on the same number of open pro rounds. The Memorial had twice as many 1050 rounds this year over last year as a percentage of open pro rounds. I'm getting 950 ratings for scores that were rated 910 or 920 last year. The ratings system is kicking out higher numbers for the same performance. Vienna Park played easier this year because there was no snow, very little ice, very few puddles and no mud. And it kicked out ratings for everyone that were 30-40 points higher than last year.
So it is the string of 1s that show how good Barry is. Those four digit numbers aren't telling us anything.
they still mean something, u just have to look at them relative to the other players ratings.
its like in baseball, 40 hr doesn't mean what it did when i was a little kid.
Change is harder for old guys.
okay bruce, i saw u had posted elsewhere that your 920 rounds had been rated 950 and 970.
that is ridiculous. 30-50 points?? shouldn't the top end pros atleast be over 1040 now then? I'll agree that after the calculation change, they appear to be maybe 10 points higher. So maybe teh 900-910 players are going to end up with advanced ratings now. oh well!! more for me i guess :D
until Chuck re-corrects his calculation like i'm sure he will whether he tells us or not, Bruce is just going to have to live with the fact that his rounds at the Homie werent' THAT bad!! :P
so, if bruce is correct all of our ratings our going to sky rocket once we start playing tournaments, and then the recreational division that we all love so much is going to disappear? that would suck :'(
also Bruce, I don't think that 1% of the disc golf public knows what the word moribund means.
i looked it up and its
Approaching death; about to die.
On the verge of becoming obsolete: moribund customs; a moribund way of life
for those of you wondering at home.
Neal Swanson's disc golf skills are moribund. O0
I did not know that but my body felt like it was moribund this weekend, my d golf game is only going to escalate.
Bruce likes to stir the coals and get people talking. It's hard to say how much ratings inflation there has been but it gets more talking saying his 920 rounds are rated 950-970 than to say that his 940 round was rated 950. What I think is interesting in all the ratings debates over the last 4 years or so, that Bruce talks about things that he sees that could be improved, then Chuck claims those problems don't exist and then Chuck fixes them 6 months later and announces a great improvement for the ratings system. ;)
It is possible that I did not know what moribund meant when I said it. And it is possible that my perception of my rounds is colored by low self-esteem. My last eight rounds have averaged 950, six in the database and two unofficial. That seems high compared to my perception of how I'm playing.
Maybe my poor health and lack of practice are starting to show in my rating! ;D
Or maybe everyone else around you is just playing worse.
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Some memorial highlights. Takes a while to play. Click the 2006 Memorial News link.