DISContinuum DISCussion

It's easy to participate:
-Be a PDGA member.
-Play Illinois PDGA tournaments.
-Win an Illinois Disc Golf Tour Obelisk.
-There is no fee and you do not need to sign up!
-Check www.idgtour.com (http://www.idgtour.com) for standings throughout the year.

Here are the rules:
-You MUST be a PDGA member to qualify.
-Play as many Illinois PDGA tournaments as you can.
-Men earn 10 points for each event played plus 1 point for every player they beat in their division.
-Women earn 10 points for each event played plus 1 point for every woman that they beat at the event (split day events will count both days' women players including herself if she plays both days).
-The player with the most points in their division at the end of the year wins an Illinois Disc Golf Tour Championship obelisk with their name engraved on it. Obelisks will be distributed in early 2007.
-Only one competition obelisk will be awarded to any player in one year. If a player wins in more than one divison (ie Advanced and Advanced Masters), the player with the second most points in the smaller division will win.

Tie Breakers:
1] Most Illinois events played in the year
2] Most wins
3] Head to head results
4] Disc flip

The following divisions will be offered initially:
*Pro Men
*Advanced Men
*Intermediate Men
*Recreational Men
*All Women

-The points for players playing in divisions that don't have an obelisk will be applied to the divisions offered. So a player earning points in Pro Masters will have their points applied to Pro. Advanced Masters points will be applied to Advanced or Intermediate, etc.

-Player points will be applied to the division that the player is eligible for at the end of the year based on rating. If a player plays 2 events in Recreational, 3 events in Intermediate and 2 in Advanced and their rating is 914 at the end of the year, then all their points will be applied to the Intermediate division. Amateurs who earn points playing pro will have those points applied to the appropriate amateur division. Pros that play amateur will have their points applied to the pro division.

-No points are earned at PDGA Majors in Illinois (currently only Women's USDGC).



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Contact:
Jon Brakel
jonbrakel@comcast.net
(847) 670-1757

so, any sanctioned illinois tournament is fair game?

So a woman get points off every woman she beats, regardless of what division she plays, so like Marie or Kelsey playing Men's Rec will get points off Int and Rec women? 

If a sponsor steps up for Am Master, how will points be calculated?  Will and Advanced Master playing Advanced get points off Advanced Masters he beats, or does he have to play Advanced Master to get Advanced Master points?  Or is it the sponsor's choice?  ;D

Quote from: mirth on April 01, 2006, 07:34:01 PM
so, any sanctioned illinois tournament is fair game?

That's correct!

Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 01, 2006, 08:14:30 PM
So a woman get points off every woman she beats, regardless of what division she plays, so like Marie or Kelsey playing Men's Rec will get points off Int and Rec women? 

If a sponsor steps up for Am Master, how will points be calculated?  Will and Advanced Master playing Advanced get points off Advanced Masters he beats, or does he have to play Advanced Master to get Advanced Master points?  Or is it the sponsor's choice?  ;D

Yes on the women.

My intention on the Masters (if it gets sponsored) would be that they can play any division that they want to and are entitled to play and they earn points based on the division that they play but if they are masters eligible then their points would be applied to Masters. I don't want to hold people down (just to win an obelisk) if they want to play up. However, I would listen to the sponsor and as long as it wasn't something too weird would probably go with what they want.

Quote from: Zudong on April 01, 2006, 08:46:23 PM

Quote from: mirth on April 01, 2006, 07:34:01 PM
so, any sanctioned illinois tournament is fair game?

That's correct!

One modification to that. Points will not be awarded for PDGA Majors in Illinois (currently only the WUSDGC).

Note, I added another rule to the top post and added tie breakers.

I've had a few inquiries lately on the IDGT. All systems are go and the elves and I are checking points totals even as I type this. I appologize that I have not been updating the IDGT site during the year like I promised. I had Tyler working on the spread sheet but I told him that the IOS points came first since I won't be handing out the obs until 2007. I also figured that this would be a building year for next year but since I'm not the State Coordinator and Brett is planning on doing something for a state wide tour this is just going to be a one shot deal and the need to build momentum wasn't as important anymore. I would be happy to work with Brett on his Tour ideas and if he likes anything that I have done for the IDGT he is more than welcome to use whatever he wants, but I don't plan on running a competing IDGT vs. Brett's tour plans. That would be counterproductive to both of our goals.

The one thing that I plan on continuing to offer is an Illinois Player of the Year Obelisk and I am asking again for nominations. I have a few ideas myself but I'd like to hear from players that have had more exposure to different players and areas in the state. "The obelisk will be awarded to the Illinois disc golfer that best embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." There are many people that should be nominated. I'd like to hear who you think should be on that list.

So, back to the IDGT and points. I'm not planning on updating the points publically at this point. People could figure them out for themselves but I think since they haven't been published yet then I might as well keep it unpublished until the obelisks are given out. Maybe some people will be surprised!

Quote from: Jon Brakel on October 18, 2006, 11:39:46 AM


The one thing that I plan on continuing to offer is an Illinois Player of the Year Obelisk and I am asking again for nominations. I have a few ideas myself but I'd like to hear from players that have had more exposure to different players and areas in the state. "The obelisk will be awarded to the Illinois disc golfer that best embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." There are many people that should be nominated. I'd like to hear who you think should be on that list

Hands down Steve Slater deserves this award.

Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 18, 2006, 02:12:58 PM

Quote from: Jon Brakel on October 18, 2006, 11:39:46 AM


The one thing that I plan on continuing to offer is an Illinois Player of the Year Obelisk and I am asking again for nominations. I have a few ideas myself but I'd like to hear from players that have had more exposure to different players and areas in the state. "The obelisk will be awarded to the Illinois disc golfer that best embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." There are many people that should be nominated. I'd like to hear who you think should be on that list

Hands down Steve Slater deserves this award.

I figure I should expand on this since many might not know. Steve is doing something that no one has ever done before. He is going to break Feldberg's record of sanctioned tournaments played in 1 year. Dave Feldberg played 48. I believe Steve is around 45 or 46 right now and will probably go over 50 by the end of the year. He is also going to win the PDGA points race for amateurs.

slater is a good choice.  rob strasser also seems like a good guy who does things for disc golf and he has had a breakthrough type year and has become one of IL's elite players.

Being new to the game, I don't know much about the people mentioned or who has won this award in the past.  It seems to me that Frank Grimes deserves consideration both for his recent World Championship as well as his truly unbelievable contribution to disc golf with the Channahon course.

Yeah, Frankie & Rob are both good guys, but I didn't know Slater was gonna break Feldberg's record! That's freakin amazing! I'd vote Slater...

Both Slater & Frank immediately come to mind.  Slater skipped ONE weekend in six months!  Frank has his world title, has played in 5 different divisions, and is the nicest guy I played with all year.

Chase Roberts in Moline has also done a lot this year, hosting two new events and opening a disc golf store.

Slater will get the PDGA tour obelisk. Isn't that a way bigger deal than the Illinois Disc Golfer of the Year? I'm not saying anything about what I'm thinking, I just would like to hear what you guys are thinking. If you won the points tour obelisk would it mean anything to win the Illinois award for doing the same thing? It might...might not. Just curious.

I don't think what other awards somebody might win should have any bearing on who wins this particular award.  Should IL not recognize somebody's accomplishments just because the PDGA already did?

I agree, one should not have any influence on the other.  But I still think that there are some other very worthy candidates to consider along with Steve.

How about online nomitations for candidates followed by a vote for the winner, again online?

Quote from: DougEDawg on October 23, 2006, 09:18:23 AM
How about online nomitations for candidates followed by a vote for the winner, again online?

I'll take nominations from anyone until the end of the year. I wouldn't do an online vote because the Disc Golfer of the Year Obelisk is to award "...the Illinois disc golfer that best embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." and not a popularity contest. This is the kind of award that could go to someone that not everyone knows.

I am currently ironing out the details on how to continue the Disc Golfer of the Year Obelisk award and I think the best way is to have a small committee that could include the past winner(s) to review the nominations.

Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 18, 2006, 03:38:32 PM
I figure I should expand on this since many might not know. Steve is doing something that no one has ever done before. He is going to break Feldberg's record of sanctioned tournaments played in 1 year. Dave Feldberg played 48. I believe Steve is around 45 or 46 right now and will probably go over 50 by the end of the year. He is also going to win the PDGA points race for amateurs.

At last I heard, he had 49 under his belt.

I hope that because the scores got posted for IL State and Channahon, Steve's still in the running for breaking the record.  To date, neither event has been submitted to the PDGA, so technically they are not official.   ???

Quote from: adoni on December 03, 2006, 06:28:05 PM

Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 18, 2006, 03:38:32 PM
I figure I should expand on this since many might not know. Steve is doing something that no one has ever done before. He is going to break Feldberg's record of sanctioned tournaments played in 1 year. Dave Feldberg played 48. I believe Steve is around 45 or 46 right now and will probably go over 50 by the end of the year. He is also going to win the PDGA points race for amateurs.

At last I heard, he had 49 under his belt.

I hope that because the scores got posted for IL State and Channahon, Steve's still in the running for breaking the record.  To date, neither event has been submitted to the PDGA, so technically they are not official.   ???

So are they going to get added? Today is the deadline.If not that would suck

I don't think it's going to happen Tom. It does suck.

Yeah, I e-mailed Gary Lewis prior to Turkey-Day through the PDGA page, but didn't get a response.

I think Brian Cummings just gave up the "slowest-reporting-TD-in-our-area" trophy!   ;D

I don't know that Gary checks email. He's more likely to pick up his phone.

Quote from: Tenny Schimo on December 04, 2006, 10:37:34 AM

Quote from: adoni on December 03, 2006, 06:28:05 PM

Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 18, 2006, 03:38:32 PM
I figure I should expand on this since many might not know. Steve is doing something that no one has ever done before. He is going to break Feldberg's record of sanctioned tournaments played in 1 year. Dave Feldberg played 48. I believe Steve is around 45 or 46 right now and will probably go over 50 by the end of the year. He is also going to win the PDGA points race for amateurs.

At last I heard, he had 49 under his belt.

I hope that because the scores got posted for IL State and Channahon, Steve's still in the running for breaking the record.  To date, neither event has been submitted to the PDGA, so technically they are not official.   ???

So are they going to get added? Today is the deadline.If not that would suck

Everyone who thinks that Steve's tournaments should count towards him breaking the record should call Gary today at 815-725-8964 and ask him if he can get the results in today. And tell him that you don't want to see Steve miss the record because Gary hasn't gotten the results in yet. And I'm not publishing anything that isn't already on the internet. You can get Gary's phone number yourself at http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=5874 any of his tournament links on pdga.com.

Today is the deadline for the December ratings update.  Last Friday was the deadline for the December points update.  Even if they are not in today, today is not the deadline for end-of-season stats.  That is in January sometime, but then sometimes they do a special February ratings update to pick up late stuff that comes in after they drop the hammer on the TDs who never turned in their stuff.

They will process the stats whenever they get the report and the money, even if it is next June.  There may be some hell to pay, and maybe some punishing of innocent bystanders, but Slater will get the tournaments in his stats.

even if they don't get on his stats until 2008, they will still be 2006 stats...............

So Tony, Brett, is there any new news on the Illinois State Championships? 

Gary has probably let this go on long enough that next year he'll have to post the performance bond.  If he lets it go on too long, he might have to find a straw man to TD his sanctioned tournaments, kind of like in 2004 when Naomi was listed as the TD for all of Brian's tournaments. 

Steve Slater has been unanimously selected, by the IDGT Committee to Select the Player of the Year, as the 2006 Illinois Disc Golfer of the Year!

I've been holding off on announcing the divisional winners of the 2006 Illinois Disc Golf Tour until all the tournaments were official and the points have been checked. The late posting tournaments and my being sick for most of the winter have slowed this down.

Drum roll please....

Here are the divisional winners of the 2006 Illinois Disc Golf Tour!

Open: Brett Comincioli #19325
Women's Overall: Kelsey Brakel #16007
Pro Masters: Rob Strasser #4672
Advanced Masters: Adoni Apostolou #24009
Advanced: Rocky Pebbles #27857
Intermediate: Adam Luxich #28157
Recreational: Heath Hunziker #28853

And, of course, as mentioned earlier Steve Slater has been selected the 2006 Illinois Disc Golf Player of the Year.

I'll be getting trophies finished asap. The trophy place and I have been working out the design. We had a couple of communication errors otherwise they would have been done for this weekend to start awarding. I look forward to awarding these highly deserved honors soon! Congratulations to everyone that played in Illinois tournaments in 2006!!!

well i tried hard to win this, but it turned out i had zero chance to win the ADVANCED trophy because i could not play in the INTERMEDIATE division.  hopefully the rules on that will be changed if we do this again in the future.  thanks for taking the time to set the whole competition up though Jon.  I do think its a pretty cool idea.  Illinois has alot of guys that support almost every Illinois event, so its not just a competition of who plays the most events, which makes it fun.

         Tourneys         Points
  Slater         15                 582
  Michler       13                 521
  Hermosillo  13                 517
  Matesevac  12                 474

  Rocky-Adv  10                 420
  Rocky-Int    5                  204

  Rocky-Total 15                624

Quote from: Dan Michler on May 18, 2007, 05:02:09 PM
well i tried hard to win this, but it turned out i had zero chance to win the ADVANCED trophy because i could not play in the INTERMEDIATE division.  hopefully the rules on that will be changed if we do this again in the future.  thanks for taking the time to set the whole competition up though Jon.  I do think its a pretty cool idea.  Illinois has alot of guys that support almost every Illinois event, so its not just a competition of who plays the most events, which makes it fun.

         Tourneys         Points
  Slater         15                 582
  Michler       13                 521
  Hermosillo  13                 517
  Matesevac  12                 474

  Rocky-Adv  10                 420
  Rocky-Int    5                  204

  Rocky-Total 15                624

I set it up kind of like the PDGA does points. That was a mistake. There would be a few things I would change if the disc golfers of Illinois had wanted me too. I will continue with the Illinois Disc Golfer of the Year but the tour is Brett's now.