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Disc Golf Related => Illinois Open Series => Topic started by: CEValkyrie on April 02, 2006, 02:54:23 PM

Title: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 02, 2006, 02:54:23 PM
I've been playing around getting names updated on PDGA.

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5686

Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5685


There is enough room for 100 players each day. Please preregister!!!

Make check out to DISContinuum Disc Golf Club
Send to
Allan Short
17515 W Bridle Ct
Gurnee, IL 60031


2. You may also preregister online at -> http://store.discontinuum.org/index.php?cPath=24
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 04, 2006, 09:21:00 AM
Has the decision been made to the pin placement locations for the tournament? There is a work day this weekend (Saturday) and we'd like to make sure we start to get things looking pretty. There is a good chance that some of the holes could be moved on this day as the guys with the keys will be out there. Please be advised, Hole #4 around the corner is not an option at this time.

If someone could let me know the locations I'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 04, 2006, 09:27:55 AM
Sergio,
    Is #4 an equipment problem? Just wondering if we'd be able to set up a temp basket.


Here is a link to the thread. I've attached a document that has the pin positions.
http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php/topic,2347.0.html

Thanks Serg!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 04, 2006, 09:49:53 AM
A temp basket would work.

This the basket that had the attempted theft. The basket w/sleeve was taken out of the ground. We need to re-anchor the sleeve.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 04, 2006, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: SERG on April 04, 2006, 09:49:53 AM
A temp basket would work.

This the basket that had the attempted theft. The basket w/sleeve was taken out of the ground. We need to re-anchor the sleeve.

Thanks for that info Serg! I'll have a temp out there both days. That saves my butt of the Safari holes ;D.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 07, 2006, 11:24:43 AM
I just realized that the new pre-reg rule might apply to this tournament, so I'll tell everyone what it is:

If you pre-reg for this event and then new ratings come out within two weeks before the event that put you in a different division, you can play this one under your old rating. 

Yes, another new rule you did not know about!   ;D
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 08, 2006, 06:54:46 PM
The 15-day weather guess is optimistic:

Mostly sunny. Winds from the E at 6 mph. High: 54° F RealFeel: 56° F
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 09, 2006, 03:03:57 PM
Two reminders:

1.  Brass Sidebet.  On Saturday Diana will be running the Brass Sidebet for all advanced amateur eligible players who want to get in.  This is for players who want to put their 15 Brass to work in a brass payout sidegame.  It will be 100% payout.  If you spend your player pack and then say, "Ooof!  I wanted in on the sidebet," I can sell you another 15 Brass player pack for $10.  The payout is going to be all brass because we aren't looking to rock the PDGA boat.

Cool dyed trophy discs are being prepared for all divisions with pre-reg'd players.  We don't have any juniors pre-reg'd.  Our junior girls are all planning on playing in the women's divisions except Kelsey who is playing rec men.  If there are any junior boys out there planning on playing in a junior division, it is not too late to pre-reg.  Same for grandmasters. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 09, 2006, 04:50:08 PM
During the 1st Rd of both days there will be a CTP for a Marshall Street DVD. There will also be a CTP for a 2006 DISContinuum membership for anyone who has never been a member of DISContinuum.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: whofarted on April 10, 2006, 08:20:22 AM
stupod question that is dufficult to gauge - but id we get started at 10am, what time would you expect the second round to get wrapped up?

Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Younk on April 10, 2006, 08:39:18 AM
 :help:
I'm planning on going to this IOS event this year but I haven't been there before.  On this website it gives you an option to get driving directions so if you're like me and haven't been there, I hope this helps:  http://www.uwp.edu/departments/union/discgolf/parking.html

For those of you that have been there before, is it easy to find once at the campus?  If there are any specific directions that would help me find it that would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Josh
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: stpitner on April 10, 2006, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: chains on April 10, 2006, 08:39:18 AM
:help:
I'm planning on going to this IOS event this year but I haven't been there before.  On this website it gives you an option to get driving directions so if you're like me and haven't been there, I hope this helps:  http://www.uwp.edu/departments/union/discgolf/parking.html

For those of you that have been there before, is it easy to find once at the campus?  If there are any specific directions that would help me find it that would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Josh

I've been there once, and it was not difficult for me at all to get there.  I came in on East on E from 94 exit 339.  I think it's 5 miles or so from there to G (Wood Rd).  It's at a stop sign.  Turn left from there and head north.  Respect the speed limit (35mph) because I saw at least 1 car pulled over when I came in, and 1 or 2 when I left.  You'll see lots of signs that talk about the campus.  Go up to the second road on the left, Outer loop Rd... it's not too hard to find, and then the parking lot will be on your left.  There's a BIG sign for the course, so it shouldn't be too hard to miss.

Actually, this will help even more http://www.uwp.edu/departments/union/discgolf/uwpcourse.html  Match up Outer Loop rd with what you have on your map from their driving direction map, and you're set.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 10, 2006, 09:33:25 AM
Quote from: whofarted on April 10, 2006, 08:20:22 AM
stupod question that is dufficult to gauge - but id we get started at 10am, what time would you expect the second round to get wrapped up?




Of 11 events so far that we've run (1 in 2003, 3 in 2004, & 7 in 2005)  Rockford is the only event that has gone past 5pm. There has been many times that we've been done by 4pm. It is unpredictable though. If you have plans that night that are important i'd say do not play but if you are worried about getting home late, we've never had any problems except that insane day with that many players at Rockford. The field is limited to 100 players at Parkside. The worst case scenario that i'd see would be 5-somes on all 20 holes which would probably take 3 hours for a round.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside - What time are we done
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 10, 2006, 10:57:22 AM
I'd just add that on the upper day, as soon as the pros are in from their Final 4 we are ready to go with awards.  Also, while the pros are playing their Final 4, if anyone needs to leave early, we are o.k. with doing some early payouts once we have everything else ready to go.

On the lower day, if there are no playoffs for trophy spots, we are ready to go with the awards about five minutes after the last card comes in. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 11, 2006, 10:14:39 AM
Baskets are in their placements.

A little more wood chips need to be added to hole #8. It's been really wet around that hole so we couldn't get in there without causing a big mess.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 11, 2006, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: chains on April 10, 2006, 08:39:18 AM
:help:
I'm planning on going to this IOS event this year but I haven't been there before.  On this website it gives you an option to get driving directions so if you're like me and haven't been there, I hope this helps:  http://www.uwp.edu/departments/union/discgolf/parking.html

For those of you that have been there before, is it easy to find once at the campus?  If there are any specific directions that would help me find it that would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Josh

stpitner put it perfectly. Follows his directions and you'll find it fine. You even drive past hole #3 and #4. Once you see the course you'll know to turn left.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 11, 2006, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: SERG on April 11, 2006, 10:14:39 AM
Baskets are in their placements.

A little more wood chips need to be added to hole #8. It's been really wet around that hole so we couldn't get in there without causing a big mess.

Thank you Sergio! I played there Sunday & it looked great out there.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 11, 2006, 12:31:31 PM
They burned the prairie today! Shouldn't have a problem looking for lost discs.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 11, 2006, 01:02:42 PM
Must be the season for it.  They burned the prairie at Kensington last week. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike S on April 11, 2006, 01:19:37 PM
When is the deadline for preregistration online? Sorry if its clearly posted somewhere and I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 11, 2006, 01:27:25 PM
online prereg will get turned off sometime during the Friday the day before the event.

In the case of IOS#1, I'd recommend you prereg before Noon on the 21st.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 11, 2006, 03:45:37 PM
Thanks Sergio!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 11, 2006, 07:09:29 PM
I've updated the PDGA Tour page for IOS #1.

29 players for Saturday so far.
19 players for Sunday so far.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: discmonkey on April 11, 2006, 08:54:36 PM
I'm sure this is posted somewhere, but I'm too lazy.  What tees is rec playing from.  I'm going up to practice this week and next and would like to play what I'll be playing on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 11, 2006, 08:56:02 PM
In the aptly named 2006 IOS Tees thread:
http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php/topic,2347.0.html
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: discmonkey on April 11, 2006, 08:59:34 PM
Thanks, like I said, I am lazy.  I assume lower means Sunday and short/long means the holes are divided somehow?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 11, 2006, 09:02:02 PM
Quote from: discmonkey on April 11, 2006, 08:59:34 PM
Thanks, like I said, I am lazy.  I assume lower means Sunday and short/long means the holes are divided somehow?

On that thread there is an attachment that has all the holes & distances.
Sunday=Int/Rec/Jr
Rd 1-Long
Rd 2-Short
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 13, 2006, 08:06:33 PM
There are 64 players registered combined for Sat/Sun for IOS #1. Please preregister if you plan on attending.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 13, 2006, 08:11:43 PM
Pre-Registration in the mail:

Sergio Correa ADVANCED
Carla Gomez REC. MEN
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 13, 2006, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: SERG on April 13, 2006, 08:11:43 PM
Pre-Registration in the mail:

Sergio Correa ADVANCED
Carla Gomez REC. MEN

Sweet!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 13, 2006, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 13, 2006, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: SERG on April 13, 2006, 08:11:43 PM
Pre-Registration in the mail:

Sergio Correa ADVANCED
Carla Gomez REC. MEN

Sweet!
Go Carla!  Start your own Book of Names
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 14, 2006, 08:55:25 AM
And let me say this before Jon does:

"IT'S A B-TIER!"   ;D
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 14, 2006, 11:55:54 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 14, 2006, 08:55:25 AM
And let me say this before Jon does:

"IT'S A B-TIER!"   ;D

OK, then let me respond before Brett does:

"SWEET!"  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on April 14, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 14, 2006, 08:55:25 AM
And let me say this before Jon does:

"IT'S A B-TIER!"   ;D
FOR ADV. & OPEN ???
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 14, 2006, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: MR.AVIAR on April 14, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 14, 2006, 08:55:25 AM
And let me say this before Jon does:

"IT'S A B-TIER!"   ;D
FOR ADV. & OPEN ???

IOS #1 is a B tier for Amateurs (Advanced and lower divisions) and a C tier for all Pros.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 14, 2006, 06:06:23 PM
"IT'S A B-TIER!" is what Jon always says when we have enough am players registered to make the B-tier minimum.  Used to be he'd be saying it sometime Saturday morning.  Now we're saying it a week in advance. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: discmonkey on April 14, 2006, 07:28:04 PM
Played 4 rounds out there today.  The place looked awesome.  Just wanted to say thanks to Sergio and everyone else who obviously put in a whole lot of work.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 15, 2006, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 14, 2006, 06:06:23 PM
"IT'S A B-TIER!" is what Jon always says when we have enough am players registered to make the B-tier minimum.  Used to be he'd be saying it sometime Saturday morning.  Now we're saying it a week in advance. 

Sweet!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 15, 2006, 09:52:12 PM
15 day extended forecast is looking pretty good. Saturday & Sunday are predicted to have highs in the low 60s w/plenty of sun & light winds!

No scorpions close on either side of the weekend. w00t!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 15, 2006, 10:01:59 PM
I saw that.  60s both days.  Looks like the tournament is coming up all daffodils and forscythia. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: airspuds on April 16, 2006, 05:47:11 AM
u better have an I-Pass if you are taking  the tri state
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 16, 2006, 01:34:05 PM
More & more preregistrations are coming in every day. There are now 52 players signed up for Saturday & 38 signed up for Sunday for a total of 90 players. There were 101 players total in 2005. WOW! The WI Tour Warm up sold out & the River City Rumble sold out aready this year. There is a max of 100 players each day. Don't miss out. Prereg ASAP.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Brian on April 16, 2006, 06:35:46 PM
if someone isn't rated can they play any division they want?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 16, 2006, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Brian on April 16, 2006, 06:35:46 PM
if someone isn't rated can they play any division they want?

Yes
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 16, 2006, 07:11:54 PM
On Saturday & Sunday there will be 2 first round CTP's.

One will be for a 2005 Marshall Street DVD.
The other will be for a 2006 DISContinuum Bag Tag. This will be for new members only. Thanks Mitch Wallace for the donations.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 16, 2006, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: Brian on April 16, 2006, 06:35:46 PM
if someone isn't rated can they play any division they want?

If someone isn't rated because they have never played a tournament then they can play any division they are otherwise eligible (by age and gender). If someone plays sanctioned tournaments but doesn't have a rating because they are not a member, they will be asked (at our events) to play in the appropriate division if they are obviously playing down. Anyone is welcome to play up.  ;)
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 16, 2006, 08:00:37 PM
Sending in registrations for the following in the morning:

Sunday:
Katrina Kozar (Pro Women T.O.)
Joe Weitzel (Advanced)
Jim Runge (Advanced T.O.)

Saturday:
Katrina Kozar (Intermediate Women)
Jim Runge (Intermediate Men)
Tony Gomez (Recreational Men T.O.)

You accept renewal/new applications day of tourny, correct?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 17, 2006, 05:40:58 AM
Quote from: SERG on April 16, 2006, 08:00:37 PM
Sending in registrations for the following in the morning:

Sunday:
Katrina Kozar (Pro Women T.O.)
Joe Weitzel (Advanced)
Jim Runge (Advanced T.O.)

Saturday:
Katrina Kozar (Intermediate Women)
Jim Runge (Intermediate Men)
Tony Gomez (Recreational Men T.O.)

You accept renewal/new applications day of tourny, correct?
Awesome.  Barrett is looking at 200% payout!  We'll nprobably have more pre-registered by the end of today than played last year.  Yeah, we can do renewals and new members at the event.  Ask Jon for the form. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2006, 07:31:27 AM
Please tell your buddies that they better register early for this event. Preregistrations are coming in swarms. I will be updating the list when I get home tonight. 4 more came in & we'll be over 100 players by the end of the day. We fill at 100 each day.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 17, 2006, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 17, 2006, 05:40:58 AM
Awesome.  Barrett is looking at 200% payout!  We'll nprobably have more pre-registered by the end of today than played last year.  Yeah, we can do renewals and new members at the event.  Ask Jon for the form. 

That's assuming she wins...She lost to an Advanced woman, Kim Keen, at the WI Tour Warm Up. She only beat Sarah Korinek by two. Sounds like Kelsey has been doing pretty well too. I think it'll be a close decision for the first and second place in this division. Carla sprained her ankle last week and has lost some mobility. She's throwing using just a quick two step approach right now.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 17, 2006, 08:27:24 AM
I'm pretty sure all the women except Barrett are playing trophy-only, so Barrett does not have to win, she just has to finish! 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 17, 2006, 09:02:20 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 17, 2006, 08:27:24 AM
I'm pretty sure all the women except Barrett are playing trophy-only, so Barrett does not have to win, she just has to finish! 

Yes, Barrett is a good player.  But, ladies, if you are feeling strong; have practiced well this week; just feel lucky; why not upgrade?  A few shekels more gives you a 50/50 to win the cash if you are the only other player playing for real money.  Of course, there ain't much cash in the pool.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 17, 2006, 09:47:15 AM
If they accepted cash they couldn't compete as am's anymore...would they be able to earn brass cash instead of cash?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 17, 2006, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: SERG on April 17, 2006, 09:47:15 AM
If they accepted cash they couldn't compete as am's anymore...would they be able to earn brass cash instead of cash?

Nope. A loophole opened up for a short time this year that seemed to allow that but the PDGA corrected their mistake and reinstituted the policy that ams can not accept any prizes in a Pro division or they ARE a pro.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 17, 2006, 10:16:16 AM
If they accepted cash, they could not compete as amateurs at PDGA majors, which are Worlds and the US_DGCs.  They could still compete as amateurs at ABCD-tiers based on their rating.  I think most of them are planning on playing USWDGC or Worlds, this year or next, in the advanced division. 

One of them has amateur aspirations that go beyond women's competition and may never turn pro.  So she says. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 17, 2006, 11:12:59 AM
Well I guess that siren's song didn't tempt anybody.  Just proves that as the Dead sang,"the women are smarter."  If we had the typical siren's song a bunch of us dunderheaded men would exclaim, "Hot damn, I ken make me some money.  Heeeeyah!" and lose our amatuer standing.

Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 17, 2006, 10:16:16 AM
One of them has amateur aspirations that go beyond women's competition and may never turn pro. So she says.
Olympic disc golf?  No amatuers anymore. Olympic athletes are pro  fesh oh nails.
Am-That's an obsolete concept.  No, I expect Kelsey to be teaching lessons to AM men for many years.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 17, 2006, 11:38:14 AM
I bet Brett's doubles thing last weekend was playing rhythm guitar for those singing sirens. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2006, 08:01:11 PM
This post is to inform you of IOS #1 @ UW-Parkside in Kenosha, WI. We have had massive preregistration for this event. Currently there are 110 players preregistered with 59 players on Saturday and 51 on Sunday. We have a max capacity of 100 players each day. If you plan to play please sign up ASAP. Please forward this e-mail and pass this information to your friends. We have quite a few women registered for this event and would like to see more. The preregistration list will be updated daily. Check the PDGA Tour page for IOS #1.

You can register online at ->
http://store.discontinuum.org/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=30

You may also mail checks to->
Allan Short
17515 W. Bridle Ct.
Gurnee, IL 60031
*Checks must arrive by Friday April 21st*

Check out www.brasscash.com for more tournament details. We hope you join us to kick
off the 2006 Illinois Open Series.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: discmonkey on April 17, 2006, 09:31:36 PM
Is there a list of people preregistered somewhere?  Just want to check and make sure my online prereg went smoothly.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 17, 2006, 09:35:46 PM
I edited the hard returns out of Brett's post.  I did not change any of the words. 

You can check pre-reg at pdga.com on the tour page for April when they get it running again.  It has been running sporadically ever since they uploaded new ratings.  Maybe it is overloaded with hits. 

Not all 110 got uploaded tonight.  Brett could not get in. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mitch on April 18, 2006, 08:54:58 AM
My online registration for Sunday Intermediate has been sent.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 18, 2006, 09:14:27 AM
Just noticed that we've got a 942 rated player playing Intermediate. I checked out the Bowling Green thread, & I guess the rule is that the player gets a 2 week extension on their old rating if they pre-registered. I guess we'll all get to see how we stack up against an Advanced player. (even if the rating was only from 1 tournament) :nike:
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: tjdub42 on April 18, 2006, 09:21:30 AM
That guy also won the River Cities Rumble.  Only one round, rated 973.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 18, 2006, 09:29:47 AM
I have updated the PDGA Tour page. 102 players.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 18, 2006, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: Drathe on April 18, 2006, 09:14:27 AM
Just noticed that we've got a 942 rated player playing Intermediate. I checked out the Bowling Green thread, & I guess the rule is that the player gets a 2 week extension on their old rating if they pre-registered. I guess we'll all get to see how we stack up against an Advanced player. (even if the rating was only from 1 tournament) :nike:

He is also playing advanced on Saturday.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 18, 2006, 10:01:12 AM
Quote
He is also playing advanced on Saturday.
Quote

It's all good. I plan on playing up a few times this year as long as my game isn't totally crap anyhow.

Bring it on! :fxloc:
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 18, 2006, 10:42:15 AM
It is the rule this year. :bs:  Maybe they will think up a better rule for next year.   
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: whofarted on April 18, 2006, 11:24:18 AM
i noticed kenny g is signed up for the rec division - i would evaluate how much of a rec player he is before he crushes the competition
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 18, 2006, 12:19:14 PM
With the PDGA.com working like government-employed janitors, it's kind of hard to evaluate anything.  [Please don't take offense if you are a hard-working government janitor.  I was talking about myself circa 1978-1982.]  Last year we paid attention to the non-members at the top of rec.  We discussed that if anyone was bagging we could always give them a PDGA membership as part of their payout.  No one was actually bagging, though. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Whinning Rec player on April 18, 2006, 12:39:20 PM
When a person registers as Rec, wins Rec, and then beats the best score in Int. as well.   :unsure:

Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 18, 2006, 01:28:38 PM
now now chains...
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Younk on April 18, 2006, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 18, 2006, 01:28:38 PM
now now chains
d'oh...you caught me...

and I misspelled whining ::)
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 18, 2006, 01:34:24 PM
Quote from: chains on April 18, 2006, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 18, 2006, 01:28:38 PM
now now chains
d'oh...you caught me...

and I misspelled whining ::)


not hard when you're the only person to have posted from that IP address in the last year...

(sorry about the edits to your post, I ment to quote & hit modify instead. I think I got your words back right....)
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 18, 2006, 01:44:15 PM
I wouldn't call Kenny a bagger.  I think he's a good guy and a pretty good player. Also, I really was not looking for any conflict, yet, I found...I looked at the last three IOS tournaments, Fairfield, Waukegan and Streamwood.  Kenny is not a PDGA member and has no rating.  His rounds, compared to rated players were:
Fairfield         921    911
Waukegan     883    875
Streamwood   891    918

His average for these three would be:   899.83

I didn't bother to look further back.

He would be a pretty solid intermediate and is pretty consistent.  There is not a lot of variation.  He had no round below 875 which is the rec/int border.  Of the registered int players for this year's IOS#1 he would be 5th of 17 in rating.  Of the registgered rec players he is currently Numbah #1.  

Can I enter the Brass side bet pool and put my money on Kenny?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike S on April 18, 2006, 01:52:10 PM
After the new ratings come out, mine should allow me to play in the Junior Girls division without anyone calling me a bagger.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: badger1190 on April 18, 2006, 01:55:23 PM
good research dave, maybe the club can take a dollar out of the rec players course fee, or one of those other  fees that adds up to 13 dollars to buy kenny a pdga membership, but until then i think he can play where he wants, just because there isnt really a rule forbidding it
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 18, 2006, 01:55:53 PM
You can only bet on yourself in the brass sidebet game.   ::)

The club officers discussed this issue in a general way a lot last year but never needed to do anything.  Last year's biggest rec bagger [cough=nick] Cough! [/cough] never would have had a PDGA rating over 875.  We'll probably discuss it some more.  

[I'm an officer of the other club that helps put on these events.]  
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 18, 2006, 02:06:02 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 18, 2006, 01:55:53 PM
You can only bet on yourself in the brass sidebet game.   ::)

Now why in the world would I want to do that.  It would be like betting on the Cubs.  I'm not good but  I'm not stupid.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 18, 2006, 02:08:58 PM
The non-member winner of Rec is going to win himself a new PDGA membership as part of his winnings!  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: badger1190 on April 18, 2006, 02:17:56 PM
thats good news
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: whofarted on April 18, 2006, 04:38:37 PM
QuoteI wouldn't call Kenny a bagger.  I think he's a good guy and a pretty good player.

i like the guy too, a few weeks ago we hung out all weekend long and shot several rounds of golf together, but he is way better than a rec player.  honestly, i bet if someone pulled him aside and suggested that he play int he wouldnt take it to heart and its not like he has a bad chance there anyway.  beyond that, if he is looking to accumulate points for the whole IOS series he may as well go to intermediate from the begining because he'll end up there after this weekend. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 18, 2006, 09:07:40 PM
This tournament is filling fast. If you are planning on playing please preregister.

As of 04/18 at 11pm we have
67 Adv/Pro (Saturday)
59 Int/Rec/Jr (Sunday)
126 Total.

We can handle 100 players each day.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 19, 2006, 08:06:23 AM
Advanced division looks like it will be pretty fun...

...just found out today that I have to have surgery to repair a torn meniscus. Looks like the IOS #1 will be the last tournament for me for at least a month... :-[
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: whofarted on April 19, 2006, 08:08:34 AM
sorry to hear about that - what is a meniscus and what is the recovery time?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 19, 2006, 08:22:04 AM
If you fill a glass beaker with water and hold it up to eye level, around the edge of the water it will rise up just a little to meet the glass because of surface tension or something.  That's a meniscus. 

"The curved upper surface of a nonturbulent liquid in a container that is concave if the liquid wets the container walls and convex if it does not." www.dictionary.com

It is also the cartilege in a joint. 

"A cartilage disk that acts as a cushion between the ends of bones that meet in a joint."   
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 19, 2006, 08:40:55 AM
Its the shock absorber between Serg's femur (upper leg) and Tibia and Fibula (lower leg).  Assuming ithe surgery is a scope, Serg should be back to many activities in a few weeks.  The problem is that with disc golf there is a lot of twisting and he may need to stay away longer. A guy in my spin class is having meniscus surgery on Saturday.  He will be back to biking pretty soon because biking is good therapy. He will just have to hold off on standing on the bike.  Disc golf might be a little harder on the knee.  Good luck Serg!! :walk:
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 19, 2006, 09:10:33 AM
Any surgery is no joke. Hope everything goes OK & your recovery time is short.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 19, 2006, 09:23:26 AM
Good luck with the recovery Serg! Injuries stink.



So far today there have been 7 online registrations that I have not uploaded. All those will be uploaded tonight when I get home.

70 Saturday Players. 30 Spots Available
64 Sunday Players. 36 Spots Available
134 Total.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 19, 2006, 09:52:33 AM
Thanks guys....now back to the regular scheduled thread....

....I should be available most of the day on Sunday for help as needed. If there is anything that needs to be done I'll be around. I was hoping to go through the course and take some photos for part of the day.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 19, 2006, 09:33:40 PM
Photo taking would be cool.  If you take digital photos someone can work with you on getting them up in a tournament gallery on discontinuum.org. 

143 pre-reg.  Crazy.

I'm guessing we get 179 pre-reg by Friday noon when the store stops taking them. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: stpitner on April 19, 2006, 10:56:38 PM
it's awesome watching the numbers go up and up and up.  I won't be there :(  It's my first anniversary!  But my wife and I WILL be out in Rockford playing those courses to check them out lol.

I'll just keep gearing up for IOS #2 :)
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 20, 2006, 10:46:07 AM
Is there anyone with equipment to take video of the tournament this weekend to submit to Discgolf TV?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 20, 2006, 11:10:26 AM
So do you ever go to a tournament wondering, "If I finish in the prizes, are they going to have any good stuff?"

I just finished loading the merch wagon.  I'm bringing approximately 1,000 discs, including a lot of the new Star plastic.  I have a cube full of shirts, towels, hats, visors and a couple of bags.  I've got Golo!  I have one of those awesome discatcher mini baskets for the Advanced Merchlord who has everything else. 

Jon, don't forget the dyed Star that you have. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 20, 2006, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 20, 2006, 10:46:07 AM
Is there anyone with equipment to take video of the tournament this weekend to submit to Discgolf TV?

I could use a video camera (and digital) on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on April 20, 2006, 12:12:55 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 20, 2006, 10:46:07 AM
Is there anyone with equipment to take video of the tournament this weekend to submit to Discgolf TV?
Great idea Brett,but I have no hi-tech equipment like that.I wish that I did
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Dan Michler on April 20, 2006, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: MR.AVIAR on April 20, 2006, 12:12:55 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 20, 2006, 10:46:07 AM
Is there anyone with equipment to take video of the tournament this weekend to submit to Discgolf TV?
Great idea Brett,but I have no hi-tech equipment like that.I wish that I did

i was making some tye dye shirts at KVN's house the other day and I noticed that he has a state of the art video camera system.  maybe give him a try.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 20, 2006, 02:17:08 PM
Prereg's have been updated.

Sat-78 (22 Spots Available)
Sun-67 (33 Spots Available)
Tot-145


Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 20, 2006, 04:03:30 PM
I got none in the mail today that weren't already preregged online.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 20, 2006, 09:00:57 PM
164...biggest...IOS...EVER!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 21, 2006, 08:08:46 AM
Just a friendly reminder that....


ONLINE PREREGISTRATION FOR IOS#1 ENDS AT NOON TODAY!!! GET 'EM WHILE THEY'RE HOT!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: whofarted on April 21, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
well, i have exhausted every possible way of getting out of work tomorrow and it doesnt look like it is going to happen at this time.  i wish the best of luck to all of you that are playing - the weather looks good and the field will be crowded.   enjoy it!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: whofarted on April 21, 2006, 10:52:53 AM
sooo, what is the finally tally for pre-reg players?  did saturday get filled up yet?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 21, 2006, 01:32:59 PM
Weather looks to be about perfect for this weekend. Possibility of some showers on Saturday, but I doubt we'll actully get any rain. (golfer optimism)

It's gonna be a GREAT weekend!

:occasion14:
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 21, 2006, 01:58:56 PM
We're still waiting for final numbers to come in...
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: mirth on April 21, 2006, 02:27:27 PM
there are 15 or so spots available for walkups on saturday and 20 ish for sunday. Pretty sure we'll fill.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 21, 2006, 07:33:34 PM
There are now 4 for Saturday and 15 for Sunday. Bruce took some registration at the course today.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Todd. Fanning on April 22, 2006, 01:30:53 PM
Well i couldnt make it all the way out there because i was hit from behind, very little damage and my dad said to bring the car home so i couldnt make it out, hope everyone has a good time
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 22, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
1st round scores are up at PDGA.com. We're expecting second round to finish around 6 or 6:30. Rounds are taking about 3 hours with 100 players on 20 holes.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 23, 2006, 09:12:35 AM
scores and unofficial ratings for Saturday are up. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5686&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: widiscgolf on April 23, 2006, 10:08:45 AM
Nice turn out!!  I wish I could of been there to see all those baggers.  hehe Don't even deny it people.....
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Cannon Boy on April 23, 2006, 05:26:27 PM
Dude does it just suck being you?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 23, 2006, 06:34:04 PM
What a weekend out at Parkside! Thanks to everyone who helped at the event. The course looked sweet & the smell of wood chips was great. Thanks to everyone who volunteer to keep that course looking fantastic. 100 players Saturday & 103 on Suday. WOW!!! Thanks for coming out & we hope you had a good time. We'll see you at Rockford.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: discmonkey on April 23, 2006, 07:22:40 PM
Since we went right back out and played a tag round to close the day, I never got to say thanks.  Thanks to Bruce and the Brakel entourage, Brett, Mirth, and everyone else.  This was my first tournament, I had the absolute best time, I only missed 2 6 ft. putts (sheesh  :-\ how does that happen???), I will play as many more as I can, and I can't wait til Lombard.  What a great day!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: amdiscgolfer on April 23, 2006, 08:53:25 PM
Congrats on a very successful event!!!

203 players over 2 days!!!

Way to go on showing How its DONE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 24, 2006, 05:44:43 AM
I posted Sunday's first round results yesterday afternoon but didn't have enough juice left in my laptop to post here that I had done it. I'll get 2nd round results up this evening. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5685&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 24, 2006, 07:01:51 AM
Quote from: Drathe on April 21, 2006, 01:32:59 PM
It's gonna be a GREAT weekend!

And I was right!

Big thanks to the all the Brakels, Brett, Mirth (Happy B-day again!), Chris Jordan for helping with the tags, and especially everyone who came out to play.

C ya at Lombard.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: widiscgolf on April 24, 2006, 02:58:59 PM
Neal great job but you're still a bagger.  AND Take it as a compliment dude!!  No reason to be a snappy about it.  We all know how fibs bag forever.....  Right Brett....??  J'k man.  Besides I'm in rehab mode.  I had a tendon repaired in my plant foot ankle but playing open and advanced this year.  Plus I already made my mind up that I'm playing Open next season regardless if I'm under 975 rating; my ankle will be 100% by then for sure.  Need to step up evenually.

I can't remember you Neal but if you met me you know I can hold my own.  Again calling you a bagger isn't a insult buddy.  I'm only joshin ya anyways.  I have to remember that you're only 19 so I was trying to insult buddy.

Hamm
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on April 24, 2006, 03:27:57 PM
What is up with the results listed on the pdga site.They are out of order and messed up,who got third place in open
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: damonshort on April 24, 2006, 05:40:09 PM
....looks like the other Brakel women may be starting their own lists...  ;)

At least I beat Kelsey on Sunday....  ::)
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 24, 2006, 06:33:49 PM
Quote from: MR.AVIAR on April 24, 2006, 03:27:57 PM
What is up with the results listed on the pdga site.They are out of order and messed up,who got third place in open

When I upload the second round results from Sunday in a little bit, I'll fix that. I just need to change round 3 to being a final round rather than a "3rd" round.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 24, 2006, 06:39:57 PM
Kelsey wanted everyone to know that she had the best time ever, which is what she says every tournament when she plays 900 rated disc golf!   -_- 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Schuboy on April 24, 2006, 07:13:31 PM
I was wondering if there would be better plastic at the next event. I cashed this time and I had to save all my brass because nobody throws the discraft junk.  I want some Teerexs and Innova stuff.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 24, 2006, 07:21:51 PM
What do you know?! All your brass just expired.   :P  For people whose brass has not expired, there is often a better selection on Saturday than Sunday. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Dan Michler on April 24, 2006, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 24, 2006, 07:21:51 PM
What do you know?! All your brass just expired. :P For people whose brass has not expired, there is often a better selection on Saturday than Sunday.

well that sux for sunday players!!!  maybe if there was more Teerexes or innova hats and whatever other star discs are hot right now, more people could be happy.  alot of players i know from sunday did save their brass because they didn't see anythying they wanted.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: badger1190 on April 24, 2006, 07:35:05 PM
id say just hold onto 10-15 of the more popular discs for sunday players, but then again, its your business
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Cannon Boy on April 24, 2006, 07:40:44 PM
I was just quoting a line from Baseketball. Love that Movie.  Anyways waiting till after AM Worlds.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Swanny-Style on April 24, 2006, 07:46:15 PM
yeah, most discraft discs do suck, i bought 3 discs all innova and saved teh rest of my cash, i need some new teerexes if u got some heavier ones at the next event, that would be great, also some star firebirds and what not.  THanks...
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 24, 2006, 08:24:07 PM
Results are up at pdga.com and I fixed the finals weirdness from Saturday. Go Discraft!  O0
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 24, 2006, 08:55:33 PM
Thank you Jon.  I didn't realize that Kelsey missed winning in the Pro Women's division by just one throw. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: tree on April 25, 2006, 01:00:04 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 24, 2006, 06:39:57 PM
Kelsey wanted everyone to know that she had the best time ever, which is what she says every tournament when she plays 900 rated disc golf!   -_- 
[/i]

I had greatest time ever, too (I shot over my rating!)

Bruce-What division is Kira playing at TWC? I'm playing rec.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 25, 2006, 06:31:11 AM
I think Kira is going to play Rec unless there are juniors. 

She plays up at IOS events because I'm paying her entry fee and telling her she's just as good as the women and girls in that division.  She's playing where her rating puts her in Texas because its a championship and she really can't keep up with the 780 and 790 rated women. 

You played well in Kenosha Becky.  You came within one putt of an 800 round. 
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 25, 2006, 07:04:43 AM
I was fascinated by the wide difference in the morning and afternoon rounds.  Yes, the morning round was tough.  Scores were high.  However, it didn't seem that the afternoon round was so signficantly easier.  The ratings seem to indicate a big disparity in the rounds.  The compression was 8 points/stroke in the morning and 11 in the afternoon.  This meant that players who basically shot the same rating shot very different scores and the difference was more pronounced with the lower rated players:

11 Tony Smith       72   904    61    907      9
19 Kevin Harkin 25184    830    77    863    65    864      12
30 Heath Hunziker 28853    80    838    67    842      13
48 Paul Ludwikowski       92    739    76    744      16
2 Nathan Loper 29770       107   614    87    624      20

Tony basically shot the same both rounds with 9 strokes differing.  By the time we got down to Nathan the difference was 20 strokes.  It would have been closer to 19 strokes to have the same rating for him.  SSA seems to be about 8 to 8 1/2 strokes apart for the two rounds.  Although strokes were much higher in the first round, it seems the variance between the top and the bottom was roughly the same-- 35-40 strokes.  I am not sure why the compression is so much different in the two rounds. 

This seemed to effect players in the lower half pretty much.  I was awful in the first round but felt that I was much better in the afternoon, even considering for the easier course.  Yet, the ratings for the two rounds weren't significantly different notwithstanding a 19 stroke improvement.  Interesting.

Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 25, 2006, 07:18:12 AM
Without getting into details that I don't fully understand I can tell you there were a couple of significant factors going on out there. There was a bit of flip flopping and place changing between morning and afternoon rounds. More than I normally see at our events. The morning round favored players who threw well in the wind and could play safe and limit their bogeys. The shorter and less windy second round favored players who could get the deuces off the short tees. Not a lot of players playing on Sunday had equal skills for the conditions of both rounds. So we had quite a few people jumping up a couple of cards as well as people dropping a couple of cards.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: damonshort on April 25, 2006, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on April 25, 2006, 07:18:12 AM
The morning round favored players who threw well in the wind and could play safe and limit their bogeys.
I think the weather Sun morning was worse than anything all day Sat; my biggest problem Sat, as usual, was brain function... maybe it was the extra practice on Saturday, but I felt that there was no other reason I couldn't have shot the same +6 either round Sat that I shot Sun morning. Still, I got killed on the open holes where we finished Sunday, when the wind might have been at its worst - I was actually at par before #4, and then I finished on #8 with a 6, where there seemed to be no earthly way to get anywhere near the mound, let alone putt from there.
Quote  The shorter and less windy second round favored players who could get the deuces off the short tees.
I was counting on that - I can usually get 5-8 down from the short tees, but I only got 1 measly birdie in the woods (whiffed on another) so my chances were over. Still, the fact that I could play at all after my misadventures on Saturday was a relief.
QuoteNot a lot of players playing on Sunday had equal skills for the conditions of both rounds. So we had quite a few people jumping up a couple of cards as well as people dropping a couple of cards.
So 2 guys from the 2nd card passed me. Looking for a golf lobotomist....  ::) On Saturday, euthanasia was more in order.  :'(

Oh, and a big salute again to Adrian Jr.! He got trapped in the trees on our 2nd hole with a 5 or 6 and a lesser player might have completely melted down. But he came back big time the rest of the way, and except for that and a possibly overoptimistic putt on #8 (nice comeback though) he outshot everyone.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike S on April 25, 2006, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on April 25, 2006, 07:04:43 AMI was awful in the first round but felt that I was much better in the afternoon, even considering for the easier course.  Yet, the ratings for the two rounds weren't significantly different notwithstanding a 19 stroke improvement.  Interesting.

Thats strange.  I shot exactly 19 strokes better my second round, and the rating was almost 100 points higher.  I fell apart the first round, my head wasnt there at all.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 25, 2006, 08:20:09 AM
A shorter, easier course will always have a wider spread than a tougher course.  If you take two players like Barry Schultz and Kelsey Brakel, at 10 ratings points per throw he would have to beat her by a stroke a hole to maintain his rating.  On a long course he probably will because he can throw so much farther.  If you put them both on short tees on a technical course, Kelsey might get four or five birdies but Barry can't get four or five aces to make up for that.  So the ratings points per stroke slope has to make up for it.  

The morning conditions were tougher, but not so tough as to invalidate ratings, just tough enough to give players with a good wind game the advantage they'd earned by going outside and playing on windy days.  Kelsey and I have been playing a lot on windy days intentionally.  She's been learning some things.  I'm not as teachable.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: discmonkey on April 25, 2006, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: Swanny-Style on April 24, 2006, 07:46:15 PM
yeah, most discraft discs do suck, i bought 3 discs all innova and saved teh rest of my cash, i need some new teerexes if u got some heavier ones at the next event, that would be great, also some star firebirds and what not.  THanks...

I don't know a whole lot about anything and I kinda stink at this sport so take this for what it's worth.  I heard this kind of bashing all day.  If I listened to everyone, I guess that Innova, Discraft, and Gateway all suck and no one makes a good disc.  ALL THREE COMPANIES MAKE SOME GOOD AND SOME BAD DISCS.  We all have our preferences.  Discraft was a major sponsor of this tournament and I want to say thanks.  They make some really good discs (see Brett's Wasp, Dan's Buzz, most of Bruce's bag, and many peoples beloved bangers).  I doubt you've thrown any of Discraft's discs more than a few times so please reserve your negative remarks for people who aren't giving us money to support our habit.  Then go throw what you want.  Anyway, it's the thrower, not the disc IMHO.  If my shot sucked the big one (which many did that day  :-\), I wasn't blaming my disc.

And while I'm chiming in...Yes Neal is a bagger  ;D.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mukey on April 25, 2006, 08:31:30 AM
I think my first round got into my head during the second & I carded my first Snowman on hole #8. Stupid of me to go for the par putt vs. laying up, & the wind made me pay when coming back. My 2nd round was 50 points < my rating, GACK! I can't wait to play some tournaments on courses I've played more than 4 times, but that's no excuse.  :cwm10:
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike S on April 25, 2006, 08:36:27 AM
Quote from: Drathe on April 25, 2006, 08:31:30 AM
I think my first round got into my head during the second & I carded my first Snowman on hole #8. Stupid of me to go for the par putt vs. laying up, & the wind made me pay when coming back. My 2nd round was 50 points < my rating, GACK! I can't wait to play some tournaments on courses I've played more than 4 times, but that's no excuse.  :cwm10:

If it makes you feel any better, 3 out of the four rounds I played at Bowling green were more than 50 points below my rating.  And Ive played those courses a lot more than 4 times.  :huh:
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Dan Michler on April 25, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
I'm not sure if ur going by the ratings on the PDGA Tour page for Bowling Green, but if you are then those ratings aren't much more than random numbers right now.

Right now they are calculated assuming everybody played the same course each round, which we obviously did not.  They will change drastically once the real ratings come out.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike S on April 25, 2006, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on April 25, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
I'm not sure if ur going by the ratings on the PDGA Tour page for Bowling Green, but if you are then those ratings aren't much more than random numbers right now.

Right now they are calculated assuming everybody played the same course each round, which we obviously did not.  They will change drastically once the real ratings come out.

Awesome.  I cant wait to see that I really shot a 650 round at hobson.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on April 25, 2006, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mike S on April 25, 2006, 08:18:26 AM
Thats strange.  I shot exactly 19 strokes better my second round, and the rating was almost 100 points higher.  I fell apart the first round, my head wasnt there at all.

That's what I couldn't figure.  My second round was 43 points higher but felt like 100.  This was the compression factor. Still with 21 holes I was surprised to see 11 points/stroke in round two.  As I mentioned, the variance between the highest and lowest scores was roughly the same for both rounds.  The first round just took more strokes for everybody.  

Jon read the first round correctly.  We all can look to multiple places in the round where hubris made us go for the putt that had no chance of going in.  It was still very windy in the second round and I layed up a number of times and it was the smart play.  See, even the terminally brain dead are capable of learning. :P
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike S on April 25, 2006, 09:06:09 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on April 25, 2006, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mike S on April 25, 2006, 08:18:26 AM
Thats strange.  I shot exactly 19 strokes better my second round, and the rating was almost 100 points higher.  I fell apart the first round, my head wasnt there at all.

That's what I couldn't figure.  My second round was 43 points higher but felt like 100.  This was the compression factor. Still with 21 holes I was surprised to see 11 points/stroke in round two.  As I mentioned, the variance between the highest and lowest scores was roughly the same for both rounds.  The first round just took more strokes for everybody.  

Jon read the first round correctly.  We all can look to multiple places in the round where hubris made us go for the putt that had no chance of going in.  It was still very windy in the second round and I layed up a number of times and it was the smart play.  See, even the terminally brain dead are capable of learning. :P

I definitely took the less ballsy route on hole 5 during the second round when I was facing a 50 foot straight headwind putt.  Upside down putter, slid under the basket for a drop-in par.  Smartest throw I had all day.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 25, 2006, 08:14:52 PM
I uploaded pictures from Saturday. http://discontinuum.org/gallery/2006EventsandLeagues
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Cannon Boy on April 25, 2006, 09:29:03 PM
Mike next time dont be a pussy and go for it. on facewind putts just start off with a little more hyzer and throw more at the tray. Even if you are 15 to 20 deep it is a direct tail wind putt.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on April 27, 2006, 08:02:38 AM
I've posted some pics in the IOS #1 folder
http://discontinuum.org/gallery/album21

Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Dan Michler on April 27, 2006, 08:54:35 AM
nice pics serg!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 27, 2006, 09:08:30 AM
Thank you for taking the pictures, they look great! Do you mind if I use a couple on brasscash.com?
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Mike Clark on April 27, 2006, 11:02:13 AM
nice pictures. good job!
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: SERG on May 01, 2006, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on April 27, 2006, 09:08:30 AM
Thank you for taking the pictures, they look great! Do you mind if I use a couple on brasscash.com?

Use whatever you want.

If anyone wants full size images, email/PM me and I'll send to them.
Title: Re: 2006 IOS #1 @ Kenosha-UW Parkside
Post by: Chainmeister on May 01, 2006, 10:39:10 AM
Nice shots Serg.  I liked the movie of Rocky hitting the chains.
I took lots and lots of shots that day but you got a photo of the one that I parked!  B)