Preregistrations have already started to come in for this event. I'll start getting them on PDGA in the next week or so. It's never to early to save your spot. Last year we had 140 players over 2 days. With the recent explosion of attendance across the midwest, please save your spot.
$340.00 is rolling over to start the Ace Pool at Lombard!!!
Sorry Steve Meizener who hit an ace the 2nd round at Parkside.
Had lots of fun at IOS #1 this weekend and I was wondering if there was anyway to have a side bet on a putting or longest drive contest? or play a game of ring of fire?
Quote from: UMphreak on April 24, 2006, 11:05:37 AM
Had lots of fun at IOS #1 this weekend and I was wondering if there was anyway to have a side bet on a putting or longest drive contest? or play a game of ring of fire?
I think it would be a lot of fun to have some side games. We would need a volunteer to organize it and run it. For a jumbo toss, that person would also have to raise funds or get donated prizes. Jumbo toss prizes can't be reported to the PDGA as prizes so if we took prizes out of the process we might not make our mandatory tier prize payout minimums.
What is the date of Lombard. I know its on the forums somewhere but im to lazy to look for it. :)
May 20th and 21st.
We did some jumbo tosses at the original Illinois Open in 2003. I can't remember where the stuff came from or why we did not do it as CTPs. They were consolation prizes for the ace pool throw off. It was ace to win the pot or CTP to win the crappy disc, on every throw. Maybe we had some yummy pies donated by Diana, too.
At Club Kensington leagues back in 2001 and 2002 I used to offer $1 jumbo tosses that would work like this: I'd define the throwing line and have everyone stay two steps back. I'd announce the item, "This awesome dyed Z-XS!" and the people who wanted in would step up to the line with a dollar. I'd run down the line collecting the dollars, and if there were too many dollars in, I'd announce a prize for second closest. Then it was "1, 2, 3, Throw!"
At IOS events I am always fully occupied during times when a dollar jumbo toss could be a useful diversion. I could trust this game to a volunteer, but you really need to have a bit of huckster in you to pull something like this off. Once we get the brass sidebet game going, I might have an idea for a jumbo toss side game. But I would need a volunteer to run it.
This is my favorite jumbo toss memory. We were out at Willow Brook Country Club for one of our golf course events. We had a bunch of consolation prizes for losers in the ace pool throw off, including a pie made by Diana. Todd Branch won the last consolation prize and it was either going to be a pie or a disc depending on what the next to last guy took. Back when Todd, Al, Sue and Dave were the Winnie Crew Diana and I used to meet them at midwest tour stops sometimes and bring them homemade pies pies and breads. So this guy is agonizing and Todd is yelling, "Take the disc! Take the disc!" The guy takes the disc and Todd yells, "YESSSSS!!!!!"
1st preregistrations for IOS #2 have been uploaded on the PDGA Tour Page.
If you plan on playing please preregister. We cannot thank those players enough that preregistered for IOS #1. About 160 of 203 players preregistered. That saves a lot of time and frustration for both players & TD's.
Parkside
2005-> 101 players
2006-> 203 players
Lombard
2005-> 140 players
2006-> 200+???
i turn 40 on may 20
i will be there
adv masters
You've been eligible to play Am Masters all year long. You are eleigible the entire year starting the year you turn 40.
Am Masters is the most fun division, but there are a lot of good IOS players in that division too: Adrian Sr., Tom McManus, Elliott Fu, Jim Bassett, to name some. KVN played up at IOS #1, but he might come back. I don't know. When he's relaxed and having fun, he's really good.
i got tix to sox vs cubs on sunday so i gotz to play on sat
on the topic of side games:
i think that side games should be just that, they should be done on the side like during the lunch break or something. even though you guys do a great a job with running the awards ceremony quickly and getting everyone on the road at a reasonable hour i feel like side games would just be more, unneccesary, work for you guys.
I just got a crazy deal from Erich at Discraft. :-* I hope they don't go bankrupt on what Erich is doing.
For the first 30 players at IOS #2 who want the Discraft Player Pack, it is a tournament stamped ESP Surge and the stock stamped Pro D disc of your choice. I'm going to see if I can get this up to 25 each day. I would like as many Innova-only players as possible to be saying, "What the hell was that?!" at IOS #2. O0
The ESP Surge is awesome. With Adrian and Elliot as my witness, I out drove holes 6 Long and 7 Long at IOS #1 with a Surge. It is like a Star Wraith except they will be marked 12 instead of 18! 12!!!
Is that going to be an am only players pack?
is that for the first 30 pre registered or the first 30 to actually be at the course?
a trophy only advanced gets a surge and d-disc for 14 dollars?
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 28, 2006, 01:01:32 PM
I just got a crazy deal from Erich at Discraft. :-* I hope they don't go bankrupt on what Erich is doing.
For the first 30 players at IOS #2 who want the Discraft Player Pack, it is a tournament stamped ESP Surge and the stock stamped Pro D disc of your choice. I'm going to see if I can get this up to 25 each day. I would like as many Innova-only players as possible to be saying, "What the hell was that?!" at IOS #2. O0
The ESP Surge is awesome. With Adrian and Elliot as my witness, I out drove holes 6 Long and 7 Long at IOS #1 with a Surge. It is like a Star Wraith except they will be marked 12 instead of 18! 12!!!
I think that's a very smart move by Discraft. Take a slight hit early on, hope that the player gets hooked, and then reap the benefits later when the player wants to buy more discraft. Sure the numbers don't look pretty at first, but they hope that people that only throw Innova or something other than a discraft disc will finally realize that Discraft has some pretty sweet stuff!
Wait is there still the let it ride? Or do you just get the discs.
O.k., I can confirm that I can do 25 Throw Discraft player packs each day. Each one will be a tournament stamped Hot Rags' Surge and a stock stamped Pro D disc. The selection on stock stamped Pro D discs includes Buzzzes, Wasps, Rattlers, Challengers, Strati, Cyclones, Crushes, and maybe some others, while supplies last.
Is that going to be an am only players pack?
For ten dollars more, any pro can get the "$10 value" amateur player pack at any IOS. You have to see me at the merch table for that during registration. So for $10 any pro can get the Throw Discraft player pack, while supplies last.
is that for the first 30 pre registered or the first 30 to actually be at the course?It will be 25 each day; the first 25 to check in and ask for it.
a trophy only advanced gets a surge and d-disc for 14 dollars? Yeah! :o
Wait is there still the let it ride? Or do you just get the discs. If you want the Throw Discraft player pack and you want to Let It Ride, I'll sell you a second player pack for $10. If you want the brass player pack and don't want the Throw Discraft player pack, that is cool too.
I'm pretty excited about this. It just came together this afternoon. Whether we can get more deals like this from Discraft is just going to depend on how much Discraft players take for prizes and player packs.
Thanks for the info Bruce. Do not really throw discraft but that Surge I have thrown and I like it.
Someone I played with at Madison the other day clued me in to the short tees for hole #19. They're behind hole #14 tee and the bench behind it. Throwing out over the pond at the basket. Not a long shot, but the water makes it interesting. Might be nice to throw that tee into the mix on Sunday.
Although it the over water shot isn't that far, for Rec/Jr/Women divisions, there may be quite a few that won't throw over that much water as they might lose a disc. I wouldn't recommend using it for those divisions (at least not without a safe route that doesn't take them over the water).
it's also marked as a red tee, and the cement tee is blue/white. From what Brett has posted before about the tees there, they won't play at any of the reds. I've always been afraid of throwing from that tee. I've already lost one disc that I really liked to hole 19, and I don't want to lose another!
Still can't get that hole in less than 4 from the blue/white tee though... and I've only had 4 twice. I usually throw 5 or 6. Painful.
Bruce
If I play Lombard, I will have to play on Saturday as advanced masters. Does Discraft have any discs that float in that Pro D plastic? ;D :P
Quote from: krupicka on May 05, 2006, 10:39:30 AM
Although it the over water shot isn't that far, for Rec/Jr/Women divisions, there may be quite a few that won't throw over that much water as they might lose a disc. I wouldn't recommend using it for those divisions (at least not without a safe route that doesn't take them over the water).
Jon and Brett are primarily responsible for decisions about tee assignments. We try to play all players on a particular day from the same tees so that all players can get ratings. They pick tees that they want to play and that they think most other players on their day want to play.
If there is a tee that Jon wants to play that might not work for rec women or junior girls, and we have some of them playing, we'll probably give them some kind of bail out option on that hole. If the short tee on hole 19 just does not have a go-around route, we could create a drop zone for discs that land o.b. in the pond AND for discs that land in a special o.b. area behind the tee. Anyone who does not want to sacrifice a disc can take her penalty and go to the drop zone.
I don't know what they have announced for tees. Once Jon prints the scorecards it is kind of carved in stone.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on May 05, 2006, 01:02:34 PM
If the short tee on hole 19 just does not have a go-around route, we could create a drop zone for discs that land o.b. in the pond AND for discs that land in a special o.b. area behind the tee. Anyone who does not want to sacrifice a disc can take her penalty and go to the drop zone.
I don't know what they have announced for tees. Once Jon prints the scorecards it is kind of carved in stone.
It's listed as everyone playing the long tee on #19, all divisions, all rounds.
Unless it's really windy, it shouldn't be hard to just go way left of the short tee and avoid the water. It's actually more of a danger going into the water on a subsequent shot from the long tee.
I'm not clear on the 'special o.b. area *behind* the tee' though.
The o.b. behind the tee is just a way to legally allow someone to not sacrifice a disc to the Lady of the Lake, but still advance to the drop zone as if he had. I don't know what the short tee position looks like on 19 because we did not play it any of the times I've played the course. If a lefty junior girl had no way to get over or around the pond and we were using that tee, she could drop her drive o.b. behind the tee and advance to the drop zone with a penalty, just as if she had thrown it in the pond.
I really hate it when a dude who sells discs designs the course to sell more discs. I know last year having that pond right near tournament central sold some discs, but from the long tee anyone can play safe and save $8 - $18.
OK, maybe not the greatest idea for some divisions on Sunday, but how many courses around here have a water shot?
I'm not against the idea. You really have to get Jon and Brett's attention, though. Course routing is their call.
If it was a true risk/reward shot then I'd be for it. I'd rather just play the regular long #19 tee. There aren't very many par 4 holes around and I'd like to keep it on the course. The shot across the water is just a regular shot. If you happen to shoot very poorly then you get extra penalized. Playing around the water from short 19 is an option for people that can't make it over but for 90% of the Sunday players it won't really be a risk/reward type of situation.
It could just be a sat. 2nd round thing.
Quote from: stpitner on May 05, 2006, 11:22:47 AM
it's also marked as a red tee, and the cement tee is blue/white. From what Brett has posted before about the tees there, they won't play at any of the reds. I've always been afraid of throwing from that tee. I've already lost one disc that I really liked to hole 19, and I don't want to lose another!
Still can't get that hole in less than 4 from the blue/white tee though... and I've only had 4 twice. I usually throw 5 or 6. Painful.
White tees both rounds for Sunday (Int/Rec/Jr). There will be no shots over the water for Sunday players.
Adding any extra holes? I'm also assuming we are playing at least one round from the Blue tees on saturday.
Is hole #20 the same as last year...behind the pine trees?
Adding 1 hole possibly 2.
Adv/Pro White/Blue
Int/Rec/Jr White/White
Prereg pages have been updated.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on April 28, 2006, 05:38:50 PM
O.k., I can confirm that I can do 25 Throw Discraft player packs each day. Each one will be a tournament stamped Hot Rags' Surge and a stock stamped Pro D disc. The selection on stock stamped Pro D discs includes Buzzzes, Wasps, Rattlers, Challengers, Strati, Cyclones, Crushes, and maybe some others, while supplies last.
Is that going to be an am only players pack?
For ten dollars more, any pro can get the "$10 value" amateur player pack at any IOS. You have to see me at the merch table for that during registration. So for $10 any pro can get the Throw Discraft player pack, while supplies last.
is that for the first 30 pre registered or the first 30 to actually be at the course?It will be 25 each day; the first 25 to check in and ask for it.
a trophy only advanced gets a surge and d-disc for 14 dollars? Yeah! :o
Wait is there still the let it ride? Or do you just get the discs. If you want the Throw Discraft player pack and you want to Let It Ride, I'll sell you a second player pack for $10. If you want the brass player pack and don't want the Throw Discraft player pack, that is cool too.
I'm pretty excited about this. It just came together this afternoon. Whether we can get more deals like this from Discraft is just going to depend on how much Discraft players take for prizes and player packs.
I checked with Jon to figure out how to make this work, so this is what we're going to do. We're going to make the Throw Discraft player pack available by pre-registration. This is what you have to do to pre-register for a Throw Discraft player pack consisting of a Surge and a Pro D disc of your choice:
1. Pre-register for the tournament.
2. Watch the pdga.com tour page for when Brett processes your pre-reg.
3. When you see your name on the PDGA pre-reg list, send me an e-mail titled "Throw Discraft"
4. Give me your name, PDGA number and division in the e-mail.
The deadline on this is the Wednesday before the tournament.
I'm going to make 50 Throw Discraft Player Pack vouchers and they will be attached to your registration cards when you check in. I'll let you all know when each day is out.
how hard will it to be to find long tees ?
for Sat - we play short first then long ?
i think this sat ill play long first then short so what will i burn time looking for tess
do they need to be marked - maybe ill bring some field paint
is there a place for flyers there ?
Quote from: airspuds on May 09, 2006, 04:05:36 PM
how hard will it to be to find long tees ?
for Sat - we play short first then long ?
i think this sat ill play long first then short so what will i burn time looking for tess
do they need to be marked - maybe ill bring some field paint
is there a place for flyers there ?
They are already marked on the ground with blue posts (flush with the ground). They are all on the tee signs, with distances marked. A lot of them are the same.
What was the par last year for Intermediate? 60 if it was 20 holes that were played right?
Brett will probably flag the longs the day before the tournament. They are not hard to find. Last year we played two rounds of 20 holes each day. We play every hole is par 3. Usually when we do longs and shorts, we do longs first so the TD can have more time in the morning to do the morning TD stuff.
Thanks, I was asking because I wanted to compare my results with last years. Was it a bad day because scores don't seem to be thaaaat hot.
17 Adv/Pro & 25 Int/Rec/Jr players have preregistered for IOS #2 so far.
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5698
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5697
I'm thinking about signing up for a PDGA membership this week. How soon would I know my number so that I could pre-register with that number? Would I be able to say "applied for" and then post the number here somewhere when I find out my PDGA number?
I know I'm not the greatest player, and I'm always trying to improve. I probably would throw something like an 800 round, not sure though. How long is that score going to hang around and haunt me in my statistics? Is it dependant on how many tournaments I play before it might go away?
Thanks :)
Scott
It will be part of the average that determines your rating for a year. It is better to get your membership when you are rated low anyway. If you wait until you are winning in Rec to get a membership, boom!, you skip right over intermediate and go straight to advanced. If you get some rec rounds in, they slow down your average a little.
heh, ok, thanks for the advice Bruce. I wouldn't really look forward to skipping straight to advanced... but it's going to be a while before I even have a chance at winning at rec. I still need to shave off about 10 strokes in each round to have a chance at the rec numbers that were put up last year! But at the same time, I've only played for 8 or 9 months now (if that), so I still have lots of time to keep learning :)
Speaking of Hot Rags, I got a call from Hot Rags today. They wanted to know how many t-shirts they would have to do if they wanted to do a tournament t-shirt for every player. I said 200.
I don't know whether they are doing 200 or some smaller number, but if you like a tournament that does a free tournament shirt, here you go. Some of you are going to get free shirts.
adv master
trophey only
long tees will take toll
but i ve played good course mgt here before (once - lol)
going out sat early to play 830
83 white lesabre
i want to play longs and only have time to play 1 round
Pre-reg is at 50 already. Weather is looking good on the long range accuweather foreguess.
I've been dying some white Star stuff and taking care of some special orders. [I think I can get that Spider done and maybe the Aviar too.] I've dyed 30 discs in the last two evenings. Friday night I'll go to work on the trophy discs.
We've tagged and sorted the new Innova merch. I loaded up on hats and shirts because those are always popular, but I'm almost out of the stuff I bought at the disc golf store going out of business sale so a lot of the cloth merch is a little more expensive than it has been.
I'm supposed to be getting tournament stamped white Trackers to dye for trophy discs. The new brass is in the mail, should be arriving tomorrow.
Getting excited too soon again.
there were 2 guys in the pond with one guy on the shore yesterday at Lombard taking an absolute ton of discs out of the pond. When I approached them and asked if they planned on calling the original owner the response was "more than likely..." shortly followed after that by saying "well, it IS in the pond......" so translation : "yeah right we're going to call. Why would I want to call when we're walking away with a couple hundred bucks in our pocket?" They walked away with *at least* 30-40 discs. Probably had some of mine in their arms too.
gah.
Do you guys have anything that would help retrieve discs that might be lost in the pond? I have something for getting a disc if you can SEE the disc, otherwise it does me no good. You can't see squat in that pond.
Quote from: stpitner on May 11, 2006, 06:44:22 AM
there were 2 guys in the pond with one guy on the shore yesterday at Lombard taking an absolute ton of discs out of the pond. When I approached them and asked if they planned on calling the original owner the response was "more than likely..." shortly followed after that by saying "well, it IS in the pond......" so translation : "yeah right we're going to call. Why would I want to call when we're walking away with a couple hundred bucks in our pocket?" They walked away with *at least* 30-40 discs. Probably had some of mine in their arms too.
gah.
Do you guys have anything that would help retrieve discs that might be lost in the pond? I have something for getting a disc if you can SEE the disc, otherwise it does me no good. You can't see squat in that pond.
I take a different attitude when it comes to the guys who get the discs out of the pond. If the people who threw into the pond wanted it back they would be in there getting them. If that guy wasn't in there getting discs the discs would still be in there. That guy is willing to do the work that the original owner of the disc is not. He ought to be able to profit from his effort.
I would go in there and get my 4 discs that are in there if there wasn't a big "NO SWIMMING" sign in front of the pond. They don't want you in the water. If it was park district people that went in there and took them out and put them up for sale somewhere, I wouldn't have a problem with that. I also wouldn't have a problem if the guys that did go in would contact the people that have name/numbers on the discs, and kept the rest. Even if they had a $5 finders fee or something, they can still make plenty of money.
After the whole Chin-Chin incident I've been a little frustrated with people at Lombard.
Quote from: stpitner on May 11, 2006, 07:52:11 AM
I would go in there and get my 4 discs that are in there if there wasn't a big "NO SWIMMING" sign in front of the pond. They don't want you in the water. If it was park district people that went in there and took them out and put them up for sale somewhere, I wouldn't have a problem with that. I also wouldn't have a problem if the guys that did go in would contact the people that have name/numbers on the discs, and kept the rest. Even if they had a $5 finders fee or something, they can still make plenty of money.
After the whole Chin-Chin incident I've been a little frustrated with people at Lombard.
Seriously. I would be more than willing to give someone 5 bucks for one of my lost discs, or even trade them a different disc for it. It isnt just losing a piece of plastic, its losing a part of your bag that youve gotten used to and know how to throw. It took me a few weeks to find a good replacement for that orc that I lost the first time. Now I make sure to keep backups in the same state of wear for all my main discs. Luckily Ive had nearly identical backups for the last 2 discs Ive lost.
I'm kind of in between on the whole pond thing but leaning Jon's way. If I go pond diving or creek wading for my precious, I'll call people on the other discs I find, or I'll post on pdga.com, or leave them at the lost and found for the courses that have one. But I feel like I'm being a great human being for that, and that's why I do it, not because I feel like I owe it to anyone. I would feel like pond scum if I sold the good ones, but the cheap unmarked Innova crap that they bought at Sports Authority, sometimes I'll just leave that in the next basket!
At this tournament in Grand Rapids there are always these kids in the pond on the holes where a lot of discs go in the pond. They come to the tournament equiped with long handled garden tools and are pretty efficient at what they do. Some of them will return your disc for a tip, and pretty much everyone is good about tipping them. A couple of them will only return your disc for a price and they don't negotiate. This one guy in my group could not come to terms with the kid at $2 for a Z driver. He was one of your typical disc golfing socialist types who thought these kids should do this out of the goodness of their hearts and for whatever else someone else might tip them even though he was not going to give a penny. The kid recovered the disc in the deep part of the pond and came all the way to three feet from shore with it. The guy was set on his principles that it was his disc and he did not have to pay anything for it to get it back. Finally the kid agreed with him. He said, "If its not worth $2 to have it returned to you, I'll put it back where I found it," and he tossed it back into the deep part of the pond!
Most "No Swimming" signs are posted for liability reasons.
I always try and differentiate between a "lost" disc and an "abandoned" disc. No sign or pond would stop me from getting back a couple of my discs (of course I wouldn't throw those near the water). If you know where it is, but simply don't go and get it, it is abandoned and fair game by definition of that word. If I find something in the reeds at Streamwood, though, that is lost and I know the person looked for it and didn't find it. I will always return discs with names if possible, but that is me - I'm one of those tree hugging karma nuts. If I leave a disc in the drink, and it doesn't get returned, I've got no right to be mad at all because I left it there, not lost it there.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on May 10, 2006, 05:46:47 AM
It will be part of the average that determines your rating for a year. It is better to get your membership when you are rated low anyway. If you wait until you are winning in Rec to get a membership, boom!, you skip right over intermediate and go straight to advanced. If you get some rec rounds in, they slow down your average a little.
Well, I went ahead and did it, I signed up to be a PDGA member (eep!) hehe. How soon do I get to be turned into an automaton and get assigned a number? I saw that new members are in the 30k numbers now. I don't know if it would have been cooler to be in the 29,000 numbers or the 30,000's. Ah well :) It's the rating number that is more important... and hopefully after my first round I'm hoping for just something over 800. We'll see though.
Am I allowed to write "applied for" on my preregistration? or do I need to wait until I know my number?
applied for is good enough. you should have a number by the time IOS#2 rolls around.
I was just looking at pre-reg and looking at the Throw Discraft player pack list. It looks like the $500 ace pool and the Throw Discraft Player pack are making trophy-only Advanced an attractive Saturday option for a few Rec and Intermediate players. That's cool. That's why we do the trophy-only thing, so players can play up and no Advanced rated players have to come in last! :rolleyes:
Quote from: bruce_brakel on May 11, 2006, 11:14:48 AM
I was just looking at pre-reg and looking at the Throw Discraft player pack list. It looks like the $500 ace pool and the Throw Discraft Player pack are making trophy-only Advanced an attractive Saturday option for a few Rec and Intermediate players. That's cool. That's why we do the trophy-only thing, so players can play up and no Advanced rated players have to come in last! :rolleyes:
I plan on playing trophy-only ADV and then playing INT for most of the IOS tournaments. Saturday is a basically a warm-up for Sunday then, and I can work on my routes for the trickier holes. I like playing rounds with people that are better than me anyways, I usually feel like I'm playing better also.
edit: Also, the bonus this time is that I can take the discraft players pack on saturday and still be able to put into the brass sidebet on sunday. Thats why I waited until my ADV registration went through to send in my email for the discraft pack.
Quote from: stpitner on May 11, 2006, 09:51:43 AMWell, I went ahead and did it, I signed up to be a PDGA member (eep!) hehe. How soon do I get to be turned into an automaton and get assigned a number? I saw that new members are in the 30k numbers now. I don't know if it would have been cooler to be in the 29,000 numbers or the 30,000's. Ah well :)
I wish I would have bought a membership back in '91 when Gale Vaughn was trying to sell me one. I think they were doing 4000 - 5000 back then. This gives me an idea to run by Lorrie!
what did you play last year
long tees then short
or short then long
which order are we playing this year
Most likely longs then shorts on Saturday and longs followed by longs on Sunday. Jon is doing scorecards. He'll have the final say.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on May 13, 2006, 06:00:26 PM
Most likely longs then shorts on Saturday and longs followed by longs on Sunday. Jon is doing scorecards. He'll have the final say.
Saturday is white/long(blue?), Sunday both white. At least that's what Brett's doc says.
I'm sorry. I've got my Saturdays and Sundays swapped there.
Trophy discs are mostly under dye. I did them for all the divisions that are pre-registered. If you are signing up to play Junior Boys under 13, any kind of Grand Masters, or any age restricted female divisions, those are the trophies I have not done, but I have two white discs left. The trophy discs will be X-Trackers that have a hot stamp that will make our sponsor happy.
I think Brett has something going on that is going to keep him busy for a few days so he might not update pre-reg at PDGA.com. So if the numbers stay the same until Wednesday or something, that's why. If you have pre-registered and you want in on the Throw Discraft player pack, you can e-mail me before you see your name up at pdga.com.
Re: 2006 IOS #2 @ Hot Rags-Lombard-Madison Meadows
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2006, 11:17:04 AM »
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Adding 1 hole possibly 2.
Adv/Pro White/Blue
Int/Rec/Jr White/White
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guess i have to read better (my bad)
that makes sense, it seems the scores from last year reflect that
Last year adv/pro played both rounds of the blue tees (longs). It was wind that day.
Saturday-Cements(White)/Longs(Blue)
Sunday-Cements(White) Both rounds.
I will have the preregistration page updated tonight. I have 6 names to add to it. Not sure if Mirth has received any in the mail this week or not.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 14, 2006, 11:38:01 AM
I will have the preregistration page updated tonight. I have 6 names to add to it. Not sure if Mirth has received any in the mail this week or not.
I mailed mine last Wed. Hope Mirth has it by now.
Hi, Discontinuum! This is DougEDawg's Mom. Doug asked me to let you know that he won't be able to make it due to last minute surgey. :( Nothing serious. He will be back soon. Please postpone his payment to IOS#2, to be used in a 2006 IOS tournament, to be named later.
Doug says "Hi to all! Looking forward to a quick recovery!"
DougEDawg's Mom.
yes, damon, I got yours. having been gone for a week plus trying to get my new house ready for a wood floor to be installed this week has left me with very little time for anything else. I will try to get the mailed preregs entered into my spreadsheet this evening.
I'm mailing out my pre-registration information today :) I waited a couple of days to see if I could get my PDGA number, but still don't have it yet. I'll post it here or email somebody when the info hopefully comes in sometime this week.
My goal: not last place lol. We'll see though :) My other goal is trying to throw under 70 for each round. Easy for all of you, but not quite as easy for me.
Scott
Quote from: damonshort on May 14, 2006, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 14, 2006, 11:38:01 AM
I will have the preregistration page updated tonight. I have 6 names to add to it. Not sure if Mirth has received any in the mail this week or not.
I mailed mine last Wed. Hope Mirth has it by now.
Damon, What division are you playing? I'll add you to the pdga tour page when I get home.
Quote from: DougEDawgs Mom on May 15, 2006, 08:48:42 AM
Hi, Discontinuum! This is DougEDawg's Mom. Doug asked me to let you know that he won't be able to make it due to last minute surgey. :( Nothing serious. He will be back soon. Please postpone his payment to IOS#2, to be used in a 2006 IOS tournament, to be named later.
Doug says "Hi to all! Looking forward to a quick recovery!"
DougEDawg's Mom.
Doug, I hope all is well in the dawghaus. Whatever the malady, I hope you recover and are out throwing soon.
Quote from: DougEDawgs Mom on May 15, 2006, 08:48:42 AM
Hi, Discontinuum! This is DougEDawg's Mom. Doug asked me to let you know that he won't be able to make it due to last minute surgey. :( Nothing serious. He will be back soon. Please postpone his payment to IOS#2, to be used in a 2006 IOS tournament, to be named later.
Doug says "Hi to all! Looking forward to a quick recovery!"
DougEDawg's Mom.
surgery! that sux bro. how soon before u can git ur game up again?
Sorry to hear you can't make it Doug. Hopefully the road to recovery is fast!
There are going to be a bunch of guys playing the Lombard Doubles on Wednesday night. Hope to see some of you out there.
40 players signed up for Saturday
41 players signed up for Sunday
81 Total
More & more preregistrations are coming in.
is there a cap on # of players ?
Quote from: airspuds on May 16, 2006, 09:25:19 AM
is there a cap on # of players ?
Yes, 100 each day.
Put my registration in the mail today.
I have 6 more to enter when I get home. I'd say it's safe that there will be over 100 players registered by Friday afternoon. Mirth usually shuts down the preregistration around noon on the Friday before every event.
Rats, I wanted to answer the question, "It's not supposed to be that cold. You players can leave your caps at home."
I still think the tournament will fill, but not on pre-reg. I'm hearing from players who are coming but are not pre-reged. Usually I don't hear nothing. I'm not taking any pre-reg without money this time. If you want to pre-reg with cash at the course on Friday, I'll take it, but have exact change.
Registrations are quickly coming in. We have a max of 100 each day. Weather is looking good for the weekend.
48 Saturday-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5698
45 Sunday-> http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5697
93 Total
At IOS #1--UW Parkside--Kenosha, WI there were 41 Intermediate, 48 Advanced, & 49 Recreational players. There are already 29 Advanced players registered for IOS #2.
A lot of people are headed to Lombard tonight for their 6:00pm doubles to prepare for the tournament.
i actually practice at an open field last night
hope it helps
Yay, I'm a number! lol. If someone could so kindly update my pre-reg information on pdga.com with my new, fancy PDGA # of 30192, I would appreciate it, thanks :)
If this one scanned well and you have a good monitor, the spiral kind of looks like red, orange and yellow braided together. If not, this is one of many varied trophy discs for IOS #2. You'll just have to see them when you get there.
There is a possibility that a few of the white tees that are dirt will be moved for the tournament. Those include holes 5, 10, 15, & 16. They won't be drastic changes but they need to be moved if the ground does not dry out by Saturday. They will be moved to the grass somewhere near each tee sign. The dirt tees were pretty muddy & not fun to throw from last night. The plan is to play the blue tees on Saturday but if they are muddy the white tees will be played both rounds.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 18, 2006, 07:12:33 AM
There is a possibility that a few of the white tees that are dirt will be moved for the tournament. Those include holes 5, 10, 15, & 16. They won't be drastic changes but they need to be moved if the ground does not dry out by Saturday. They will be moved to the grass somewhere near each tee sign. The dirt tees were pretty muddy & not fun to throw from last night. The plan is to play the blue tees on Saturday but if they are muddy the white tees will be played both rounds.
Don't expect them to dry out anytime soon. Those things like to take their time to dry out. All 4 of those tees can get pretty bad. How was the tee for 14? I've seen the cement tee under water before when it's has rained a lot. Also, expect a lot of soppy conditions on 3 (if you go far left), 4, and 12.
Who wants to invent temporary tees to cover muddy ground :)
Whoever updated my info on the pre-registration, thanks :)
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 18, 2006, 07:12:33 AM
There is a possibility that a few of the white tees that are dirt will be moved for the tournament... They will be moved to the grass somewhere near each tee sign.
good news and an excellent idea, but it wouldn't surprise me if you'll have to move 'em again after Saturday. 8)
I was just out there this afternoon. Part of the tee started to dry on 15, but it's still muddy. There is standing water on 16 right in the middle of the tee area. That really stinks because it's a very tight fairway. I tried throwing from behind the mud and well, I stink anyway, but my throw was terrible. Hole 4 was practically a marsh, but it was definitely playable. Since it was during my lunch we played the short version of the course (1-4, 13-19) so I didn't look at 5's or 10's tees. I wouldn't expect much change from last night. It's not that big of a deal moving 10 or 15's tees, but 5 and 16 both have a lot of trees. Will be interesting to say the least.
Wind took my drive on 13 and put me behind a tree on 14 and then the back of my left hand hit a tree after I threw my disc... starting to swell up around my knuckles. Not cool, but I'm going to play through it (I'm a leftie so it's my throwing hand). I just have to hope for no wind. I threw a 44 for 11 holes, not good. But that's why I'm in rec :) C'mon not last place haha.
I am not sure I follow the changes and problems but figure its pretty wet out there. I am playing Saturday due to scheduling problems and will likely be the lowest rated player on the course. If we have to play more of the concretes, hey I'm not complaining.
im buying new spikes tonight
the 14.99 pair i bought on sale lasted only 1 round
going to treat myself to some nice spikes for my birthday
bring the mud on baby
my mother was a mudder
How do you work the spikes for the concrete tees? I've thought about buying some baseball cleats because they are rubber cleats, but I wasn't sure about how my footing would be on the teepad. I dont' think my old pair of baseball cleats would fit anymore...
It'll dry out some more over the next 36 hours. Crystal Lake and Streamwood are probably worse so there's always a bright side: there's nowhere dryer to play this weekend!
Weather looks great for this weekend.
75 & sunny on Saturday
68 & partly cloudy on Sunday
106 players registered. Mirth will be closing online registration sometime early tomorrow. Get R Done!
i'm not sure if i'll be able to go or not yet. think there'd be a spot open if i don't pre-reg?
Quote from: K-Biscuit on May 18, 2006, 07:51:42 PM
i'm not sure if i'll be able to go or not yet. think there'd be a spot open if i don't pre-reg?
I would assume it is not going to fill in the next 12 hours. There will be spots open. Just get there early!
I played around 7:00 tonight, but only made it through hole 14 before going back.. my back was getting sore and didnt want to mess with it. The teepad for 5 is fine. Completely dry. White tee on 10 is pretty bad but moving to the side doesnt change the hole at all. Blue tee on 10 is good enough. I put my drive a little bit to the right of 10's pin and that was definitely the muddiest part of the course that I walked through. I would imagine 15 and 16 are really bad, especially the area left of 15's pin. There is always standing water there.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on May 18, 2006, 06:25:28 PM
It'll dry out some more over the next 36 hours. Crystal Lake and Streamwood are probably worse so there's always a bright side: there's nowhere dryer to play this weekend!
That's true, Lombard is definitely the best place to play this weekend compared to those other 2.
Mike- yes, there is standing water on the left side of 15. It's probably what, a good 75' away from the basket though? My judgment of distances are never great. It's in the area near the baseball field, and comes out a good 20'. It's not so friendly if your disc lands in it. At least you'd be able to get your disc back in that water lol. Stupid pond.
How was the area around 5's basket? That's usually pretty nasty too... although it's good to hear that the tee was dry. 15's tee was muddy, but I did see some dry parts.
I might be out there again after my office league Friday night (rain delayed night lol), so maybe around 7pm or so. We'll see. It depends on how my elbow and my bruised knuckles feel. I've never bruised knuckles before...
Just a friendly reminder that....
PREREG FOR IOS#2 ENDS SOMETIME AFTER NOON ON 5/19!!!!
(I will not be near a computer at exactly noon so I can't say really when I'll be cutting it off....)
looks like no rain this weekend. 68 saturday
59 sunday
It was fine around 5's basket. It wasnt sloppy or anything.
ended up with light hiking boots 35 bux at sports authority
the spikes will cause some slippage on the cements i have found out a couple times
i think that s what happened last weekend with the cheap spikes i had
I've been getting calls, e-mails, pm's, & im's like crazy this week. A car load of 4 other than Brakels are making the trip. If you plan to play please arrive early. I cannot save spots. I'll be out on the course from 4 to 8 today. If you want to register please have the correct change and something written with your info on it.
so how many are prereged for tomorrow?
Quote from: whofarted on May 19, 2006, 10:54:17 AM
so how many are prereged for tomorrow?
Around 65. I need to upload them tonight. I'm sure i'll pick up a handful tonight as well. There is a car of 4 other than Brakels driving from MI.
yowzers - probably be another full field tomorrow. better leave the house early to get one of those spots...
i am going to listen to 'rush' and 'yes' very loudly the whole drive to prepare. gonna kick some tail in lombard!~
PREREG IS CLOSED!
Quote from: whofarted on May 19, 2006, 11:08:20 AM
yowzers - probably be another full field tomorrow. better leave the house early to get one of those spots...
i am going to listen to 'rush' and 'yes' very loudly the whole drive to prepare. gonna kick some tail in lombard!~
What? No Cheap Trick Rockford boy? I actually heard them on 'XRT on the way to a tournament a few weeks ago. I was thinking how I was in high school I listened to Surrender. Now, when they say mommy and daddy are a little weird, I guess they are talking about...well never mind. Drive safely.
QuoteWhat? No Cheap Trick Rockford boy? I actually heard them on 'XRT on the way to a tournament a few weeks ago. I was thinking how I was in high school I listened to Surrender. Now, when they say mommy and daddy are a little weird, I guess they are talking about...well never mind. Drive safely.
No garuntees on driving safe - I always get a little excited when 'roundabout' comes on. That song reminds of driving through Ontario on Hwy 401 at 110km per hour - pretty intense stuff! Never got into Cheap Trick's music that much but I love the stuff that they do for the community. Bun E Carlos recently donated 2000+ CD's to the library and most of them rock.
I was back out there today playing the "back half" (starting at 9-13, then coming back 4-8), and there were a LARGE number of people out there playing. Always nice to see :) A couple people mentioned they were getting ready for the tournament. One guy I couldn't understand at all... but I knew he was practicing for the tournament lol
I have a question on marking a lie... yesterday I had a disc land in one of those short shrubs on 15, and it didn't come down. It was right around 2 meters up. Since it's not OOB, how do I mark that? Do I just stand under it and throw from there? Or do I somehow put my marker down in some approximate location to where the nose of the disc is at?
Also, there was something in the list of holes and special OOB lines and there was going to be a painted line on ... 11 I think. Is that going to be on the right side on the other side of the path? The baseball field I know is already OOB (and man was I close to that today!)
Mark your disc on the playing surface directly below where you disc is. If it is over 2 meters and it's during the IOS then take your stroke penalty.
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 19, 2006, 12:47:27 PM
Mark your disc on the playing surface directly below where you disc is. If it is over 2 meters and it's during the IOS then take your stroke penalty.
Thank you for that clarification.
I have another question lol (tournament newbie). I remember a while back talk about throwing Discraft only on some CTP holes. Is that still happening, first of all. Second, how does a player notify that they are going to throw discraft only on a particular hole? Third, can I carry a mix of Innova/Discraft in my bag?
Just curious as to how that works out. I've been practicing a lot with my discraft stuff, and while I'm not 100% sure on how the CTP thing works (hole to hole basis, who wins if there is a tie, etc) I think it might be fun to do.
Thanks for everyone with the patience to keep answering all of my ?'s
You can carry and throw whatever you want but you can only win the discraft ctp if you throw discraft on that hole. You don't have to declare it, you just have to do it.
That 2 meter rule will definitely come up this weekend. Saw many discs stuck in trees during my 3 rounds today (only once mine, though - those pines on hole 20 are like living disc catchers - my new valk was in the very top branch of one and I had to climb all the way up to get it). Neal aced 18 with a lefty wizard turnover shot, very sweet. Should be a great weekend!!! ;D
Thanks Tim, but it was actually a glow element. I am pumped and ready for tomorrow, weather looks sweet and I am ready to play some golf.
73 players signed up for Saturday
55 players signed up for Sunday
128 total
Should be a good weekend!
I went to Lombard today to purchase some stuff from the club. Whoever was selling was playing. So that being said whoever has the club merch at Lomabard please message me a time that I can meet you there tomorrow to make purchases.
Were there any aces Saturday?
Yeah 3.... :rolleyes: just kidding mitch no there werent,
Nathan, sorry merch wasn't open when you were at the park. Hope you hung out for a while to watch the pros play.
As far as merch on Sunday, our voluteer is not playing tomorrow so they should be more accessible.
Pro final round is up making all results for today up at pdga.com.
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 20, 2006, 08:33:41 PM
Pro final round is up making all results for today up at pdga.com.
Thanks Jon! Results for the A-Tier are not up yet :unsure:
another great turnout and another fun, well run tourney. hope to see everybody back again at Crystal Lake.
Can anyone tell me how to contact the merch volunteer I'de like to talk with them about a good time to meet because unfortunately I broke my ankle yesterday and its a little rough for me to get areound....but I still want my wizard.
had fun
well run
see u all at west park then cystal lake
NM about my super soft putter went there got no help, so I'm just gonna buy one from an online vendor
Nathan, PM me what you need & I'll hook you up with a good deal. When were you at the T?
Bruce,
I thought the "fly life" contest was pretty cool. Interesting to have something to play for within your group to motivate you to play a little better regardless of your score the previous round. Thanks for a fun day.
Quote from: white_rhino on May 21, 2006, 02:46:20 PM
NM about my super soft putter went there got no help, so I'm just gonna buy one from an online vendor
I apologize that you did not get what you wanted. I was not able to get out the club merchandise until right before lunch time. We need a volunteer to watch merch at events. Yesterday we did not get out the merchandise since we had no non playing volunteers. We had a few non playing volunteers take turns today at lunch & after the 2nd round watching merchandise. Registration time is the busiest time and we did not have a helper to watch merch this morning. I did not see your post about meeting until just now. I was at the course pretty much from Friday afternoon until now only stopping at home to sleep Friday & Saturday nights.
What a monster weekend again! 200+ players again. Thanks for all that attened and helped out. The ace pool was not hit. It will go down at Crystal Lake.
Last year Crystal Lake had 155 players. 92 on the Int/Rec/Jr day & 63 on the Adv/Pro day. We have seen a HUGE increase in attendance this year.
Parkside 2005->101, 2006->200+ with 3 players turned away.
Lombard 2005-> 140, 2006-> 200+ with about 7 players turned away.
PLEASE PREREGISTER If you don't please plan to get there around 8am when registration opens. Any preregistered players need to check in by 9am or their spots will be given away to other players.
Don't worry about it it wasnt that big of a deal, I just wish I would have known cause I broke my ankle on Saturday and had a tough time getting there on Sunday, to no avail. And in the forum post is said that someone would be available pretty much all day. I was told that after lunch items would be available, but with the ankle I just couldn't wait around. But don't worry about it I understand that its more important that the tournement get run.
Had a good time despite shooting pretty much my worst ever tournament golf on both days. Thanks again to everyone.
How I actually won some brass on Sunday, I dont know. There is no way I deserved any kind of reward- I should have had to pay in at the end of the day. I shouldnt be allowed near any flying objects for at least a week.
...so who is up for some monday night doubles?
lol, I'll take your brass, I didn't win any :) j/k
It was definitely a lot of fun out there though. I'm just glad that I didn't choke on my first tournament day. For me I threw better than I had ever thrown before on that course, so I'm happy. I achieved my goal of not last place lol.
My sweetest moment was a 100'+ deuce on hole 20. That goes down as my longest putt shot that I've ever hit! :) Thank you Bruce for the awesome dyed Champ Spider!
Scott
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 21, 2006, 09:02:09 PM
Lombard 2005-> 140, 2006-> 200+ with about 7 players turned away.
PLEASE PREREGISTER If you don't please plan to get there around 8am when registration opens. Any preregistered players need to check in by 9am or their spots will be given away to other players.
FOR REAL, I was one of the 7 turned away...at least in the AM. Luckily for me, someone DNF'd so I took their spot in the second round. Had a pretty good second round too (66) :( so it
really sucked not to play in the AM.
Another word of advice bring some sunscreen if your are susceptible to burn as my neck is fried today ;D
200+ players: Attendance was huge. After trying twice to accomodate everyone [Saturday at Kenosha and Saturday at Lombard] we've come to the conclusion that 100 players per day is our limit. We have a great crew of tournament assistants, but 100 players is as many as we can handle, especially on the lunch hour when the 1/2 of our crew who are playing that day need to get fed and watered while the other half take care of the tournament. We're sorry for those who did not get in. The only answer is to pre-register or show up EARLY.
Flight Life was sponsored by Hot Rags. They wanted a lot of discs with their business information on them to get distributed widely to the players. The Throw Discraft player pack and Flight Life were a way of accomplishing that. Please check out their stores. Support the retailers who support the sport.
The Throw Discraft player pack was sponsored by Discraft. Discraft gives us great deals and we can pass them along to players who can find a place for some Discraft discs in their bag. If you throw an Aviar or a Wizard, you can probably find a place for a Challenger. If you throw a Roc or an Element, check out the Wasp and the Buzzz. For the long game, the Flash, Wildcat, Crush, Avenger, Surge, Talon and Predator offer a wide spectrum of stability and glide combinations. Every time I order Discraft we can do a Throw Discraft player pack. The more Discraft you choose for prizes, the more often we can do that.
Pre-register now for IOS #3. The "C" on the am side means nothing. We're running the same show we run everywhere we go: Pick-your-own 15 Brass player packs, generous payouts and CTPs, same-day PDGA on-line scoring for the Advanced and Pros, and hopefully the Intermediate and Rec scores get up by the next day. The "C" on the am side means if you all show up for it and pack the course, we save $150 on what we send to the PDGA. They wanted the C. They got it. We'll give the savings back to the players and volunteers.
had a good time at lombard despite having a horrible second round. the weather was great, tournament was well run, and the course was nice. looking forward to #3.
also, thanks to the unsung heros like brett who i am sure was marking teeboxes and putting up flags all afternoon friday, mirth for the pre reg and store, all the folks checking score cards and helping with merch, etc... your efforts are appreciated
Another great tournament! Had a good time despite shooting poorly :angry: . Looking forward to Crystal Lake. Make sure to pre-reg. Its gonna be packed.
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I believe I owe a big thank you to the Adrians for helping out with Merch on Sunday. Thanks a lot guys! I'll try to deliver my thanks in person to Jr as well.
Glad to see day 2 scores up :)
How in the world did that guy in rec throw a 140 in round one and then follow it with a 66 round? What in the world happened?
I'm guessing that was Chains' 2nd round after filling the spot of whomever DNF'ed the first round.
That is correct. He got all 7s for the first round for being "late to the tee." The score will be so low it will have no effect on his rating.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on May 23, 2006, 06:00:28 AM
The score will be so low it will have no effect on his rating.
Really, whew ;D
BTW: is "late to the tee" some kind of universal term?
Jon, Thanks for getting the scores up.
Andrew did not have a PDGA # listed. He is a PDGA member.
Rec
27698 Andrew Holzman
The rules really don't have a provision allowing a player to play just the second round of a two round tournament, but a player who shows up late for the tee off can take par + 4 for the holes he missed and still play. Also the TD report won't let you have a no-score for the first round. It will give Jon an error message until there is a score for that round. So that was what happened for purposes of the TD report. How did that 140 rate?
high 200's, bruce.
sunday the ams played 20 holes only ?
What were holes 21 and 22 for Saturday? I saw the tee for 21 and it looked like the basket shared 18's basket? But I never saw the tees for 22 when I was out visiting Saturday morning.
Quote from: stpitner on May 23, 2006, 01:15:07 PM
What were holes 21 and 22 for Saturday? I saw the tee for 21 and it looked like the basket shared 18's basket? But I never saw the tees for 22 when I was out visiting Saturday morning.
From that tee, the pin for 21 was further to the right than 18's basket. It was in the group of pines that is basically directly between 18's basket and the road. It was basically a 360 foot shot around a huge tree, with a protected pin. 22 was close to the road, right by what looks like a maintainance access gate/path. It played back through the trees that run along the street. It was a lot like hole 1 at Crystal Lake.
Jon finished the TD report last night and got it in under the deadline for inclusion in the next ratings update.
The TD reports calculate and show % payouts for pros and amateurs. Our advanced payout was 209%! Many thanks to Hot Regs for the free shirts and flight life prizes. Our intermediate and rec payout was 240%!! Their percentage is higher only because they have a lower entry fee. It's a math thing. They got the same added stuff over what we normally do as the advanced players. Pro payouts were pretty good for a C-tier, 105% or so, I forget the exact number. That was mainly from not deducting for the course use fee and for those little cash CTPs. We did not include t-shirts as part of the pro value, but we did include the trophy disc.
Our payouts were actually a little higher than that because Jon was treating everyone who took a Throw Discraft Player Pack as having received a $15 value. Based on the prices I'm seeing at other tournaments, that should be treated as a $21 value, minimum.
Advanced payout: 211%
Am payout: 240%
Pro payout: 115%
Hot Rags Free Stuff: Priceless!
Thanks Hot Rags!!!
1 out of 3 is not bad! ;D Jon tells me this stuff on the phone and later on i just make up numbers. ::)