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This is not an IOS points tournament, but it is a brass cash event that will feel like an IOS.  Jon and I will be there bitching at each other, and it will have all the other familiar elements of an IOS event except perhaps not as many Waterford Junior Girls.

It is definately happening.  I need to get some information from Oldman to fill out the sanctioning request, but the BHMO guys have given us the green light. 

July 15 and 16
The Peoria Open
Adv and Pro play Saturday from long tees
Int, Rec and Jr. play Sunday from USWDGC tees
At McNaughton (a.m.) and Northwoods (p.m.)

Prices: [subject to change if Jon has any issue with these prices]

Division ........... Full .. Trophy-Only (Includes player pack and CTPs)
All Adv & Pro .. $40 ....... $20
All Int & Rec ... $30 ....... $20
Juniors ........... NA ........ $15

Pro Divisions paid 100% of entry fees less $2 PDGA player fees
Amateur Divisions paid generously in Brass Cash
Our Amateur payout are usually close to 150%
(Thank you Discraft for free stuff!!!)

i've heard nothing but good about these courses - should be a great time! 

I thought I would answer some questions in advance:

Why are you guys running a tournament down here on our courses?  Because they are great courses!  Oldman liked the idea and said he'd arrange things with the park districts.  We're coming on Oldman's invitation.  If he thought for any reason it would be bad for PFC for us to run the tournament this year, we'd stay away. 

Why split day and no Bradley?  We have a limited number of non-playing volunteers, Jon and I for sure, and maybe Mom [Oldman's wife] and maybe Becky for one day [Jon's wife].  We are hoping to run one pool each day, but if Becky and Mom are available, we can open up an overflow pool. 

So what is a brass buck really worth anyway? [I saw this on the Peoria message board.]  It is kind of like Canadian!  In the U.S. lunch might cost me $7 plus a tip.  In Canada lunch might cost me $7 Canadian plus a tip too.  But in Peoria I can't get anything for Canadian money unless I sneak it by you, 25 cents at a time.  Brass cash is good for the wide selection of stuff we have, just like money.  It is not good if you want to stay at Jumers or eat at Avantis.  It is not good if you want a club member discount either.  Brass pays full sticker price. 

So I heard your merch is over-priced? [I saw this on the Peoria message board too.]  At our tournaments our Innova is priced at the prices I personally promised Harold Duvall we'd stick to: Suggested Retail Price.  Generally 18 Star, 16 Champ, 12 Pro Line, 8 DX.  I used to be an evil deep discounter and everyone got mad at me.  When I started doing business direct with Innova, Harold made me promise to do Innova his way.  So I'm bound by my word.  For cash sales Harold says I can give club members a discount.  Discontinuum, Waterford Junior Girls, QC, PFC, Kiwanis -- join a club and get a discount!  If you say you are a PFC member I'll take you at your word.

Our Discraft has great prices.  12 ESP, 12 Cryztal, 12 Z, 10 X, 8 D.  Some of the D is marked 6 right now, if you hurry.  Discraft gives us great deals and we pass those along to our players. 

We also carry hats, towels, shirts, birdie bags [by IOS #3 anyway], disc golf bags and stuff you've never seen at a disc golf tournament. 

I'm requesting off for the Peoria event :) Hopefully I'll be off. Stay tuned!

whoo hoo!  i'm coming out early for a business trip to play this event.  i'm flying into midway at noon on friday and will head to peoria.

anyone up for a round?  i'd really appreciate a tour guide.

thanks

paul, 21954

i've got your back, paulie.  do you need to be picked up from midway? 
do you need lodging in chicago?

pm/email me, and i'll give you my phone number; we'll discuss specifics...

spike (born and raised a baltimoron)

Has the Peoria Open been PDGA sanctioned yet? Thanks, Scott

The sanctioning agreements have been sentt and the check is in the mail.

Quote from: Guest_Tree on May 25, 2006, 12:34:33 AM
I'm requesting off for the Peoria event :) Hopefully I'll be off. Stay tuned!

I'm in for Peoria :) Will it be just Maddisen and I manning the registration table? Will there be any other Brakel females around?

seeing as how its not even on the pdga tour page, i know that not many people even know about it.

Dave Gentry is playing the Japan Open and no one is doing his work.  The sanctioning agreement and check were sent some time ago. 

Bruce, I just sent you and email at brasscash before reading this thread. I agree with Dan, that unless some information is sent out at your next tourney and to area clubs such at Quad Cities, St. Louis River City Flyers, etc. The turnout will be low. Thanks in advance for your help. I look foward to playing at the tourney.

Everybody turn to the disc golfer on your right and the disc golfer on your left and ask them if they know about the Peoria Open on July 15 and 16!   ::) 

i'm coming all the way from sunny baltimore just to play this event   ;)

Preregister online!

http://store.discontinuum.org/product_info.php?products_id=87

Good news!  I have enough volunteer officials to run a B-pool on Saturday if necessary.  If we split into two pools, the B-pool will have enough players to get ratings but few enough that the volunteers are not overwhelmed.  We will most likely put the Open Pros in the B-pool first, because they never give us problems.  Everyone will meet at McNaughton for registration or check-in and a player meeting, and if we have to run a B-pool, they'll head over to Northwoods after a 1-minute player meeting. 

I'm hoping now that we will be able to run foursomes on Saturday. 

If there are any tournament volunteers out there that would like to play on Saturday and be available to run the Sunday B-pool if one is needed, let me know.  I'd rather keep the Sunday players together to ensure that the Recs get ratings, but if attendance is like an IOS, they'll have enough gators. 

If there are enough players to open up a B-pool, the B-pool volunteers will receive a small stipend related to the entry fee they paid or were going to pay on the day they were playing. 

Here's some more good news:

We'll be doing the Throw Discraft Player Pack again at Peoria and Rockford.  For both tournaments the player pack will be 15 Brass good for $15 off anything you want OR any Discraft disc of your choice plus a Pro D disc from the designated D boxes.  In Peoria the Pro D discs will include whatever was left from Crystal Lake plus Buzzzes, Drones, Challengers, Bangers, and some glow Magnets I found in the basement!  They are are a few years old, but they've never seen the sun so they still pack a lot of glow.  So, for example, you could take an ESP Buzzz and a Glow Magnet.  This would normally be like a $26 value?  This deal is outrageous. 

I'll let you know how many total I can do for both tournaments.  So I don't forget, it is however many discs are left in the designated D box plus 62.  These will be first come, first served, while supplies last. 

We'd like to continue thanking Discraft for supporting local tournaments.  If I were a touring pro I would totally be behind Innova, but I'm not.  I'm totally behind the mule that's pulling my plow!

I will have 110 total Throw Discraft player packs available for Peoria and Rockford.  When they are gone, they are gone.  Of course, when they are gone I'll be ordering more Discraft and they'll load me up with more Throw Discraft Player Pack stuff.   ;D

anyone up for a friday practice round?  i'd really appreciate it if someone who knows either of these courses would be up for a game.  i should be in the area by 2 or 3 on 7/14, unless i get lost on the way from chicago.

if i were to play only one of the courses, which one do you think is more important to see before the tourney?  if equally important, which is more fun?

thanks

paul, 21954

I think McNaughton is more important to practice before hand.  If you go to Illinoisdiscgolf.com and from there go to the USWDGC site, you should be able to find course maps.  The Adv/Pro pool will be playing long tees.

From another thread:

QuoteThe person with the best score at The Peoria Open on the Advanced/Pro day who informs me that they are committed to attend the 2006 USDGC will receive the state coordinator exemption. They must then immediately send in their registration. If no one who attends Peoria is committed to going then the exemption will go to Rockford. If no one is committed to going from Rockford or the person who qualifies does not register, then I'll give it away to someone who is committed to going.

What does the turn-out look like for Sunday? 

Very hard to say.  I was passing out flyers at the Illinois State Championships.  A lot of players know about the tournament and say they are coming but pre-registration has been very slow.  Peoria does not have a large local player base of lower rated PDGA members because Peoria has not had many sanctioned tournaments offering lower divisions. 

i'm looking for a game at mcnaughton on friday around threeish (or later).

pm me if you're up for it.

thanks!

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We have arranged for a port-a-potty for McNaughton for the weekend! If someone will be out there Friday during the day and wouldn't mind telling the Drop Zone guy to put the port a potty in the turn around area at the end of the park drive, then please send me an e-mail or PM and we can exchange cell phone numbers. I won't be down there until probably 5pm at the earliest on Friday but the guy is going to call me if he doesn't understand where to put it.

On-line registration should be closed now.  Not to worry.  There are plenty of spots and volunteers for an overflow pool if needed. 

Scorecards are done.  I'm doing an optimistic number of scorecards.  Course notes, o.b.s, rules reminders, course maps and a map from McNaughton to Northwood are done.  I'm not doing one per player on these because you only want to kill so many trees.  Every group will get one packet and there will be some extra highway maps avaqilable.  Deaf disc golfers can request a personal packet and get one.  If Saturday players would return that stuff, we'll recycle it. 

Trophies are ready but not done.  We are using Kira's trophies for this one because I have no idea what to expect.  They are, in my opinion, cheap but cute.  Dan's opinion will vary, but Dan is not coming.  I think it is nice to have a permanent momento of a win commensurate in value to the significance of the win.  This isn't the Olympics and the copper kind of goes with the brass. 

I have to leave tonight.  Calls and e-mail should be directed to Jon. 

The Colormax is getting mixed reviews.  Marty likes it.  Erich doesn't but he was trying to avoid saying it.  He sees a lot of disc art work and has high standards.  Marty is a lot like your average disc golfer, only a little moreso, so tell me what you think this weekend or in Rockford.  Mark Ellis always tells me when my dye work is awesome or crap, so I can take it. 

He'll go through a stack of discs like this, "Crap, crap, good, good, crap, hmmmm, good, good, real nice.  O.k., how much for this one?  That's nowhere near enough!  You're giving this away?  Here's a twenty.  You should have said 30."  The stuff Mark calls crap usually sells the first day I take it out to the course.  The really good stuff often does not make it to Illinois.

Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 13, 2006, 11:04:08 AM
The really good stuff often does not make it to Illinois.

Phooey :protest:

Well everything dyed made it to Illinois this time except the stuff I was doing for someone else.  It is all paint and spin stuff.  No sticker art. 

I'm down in Morton right now.  i flagged all the blue tees and made notes on holes that did not have blue tees. 

THE COURSES LOOK AWESOME.  The blue tees have all been trimmed and groomed so they are fairly easy to find.  The storm did not take anything significant down but it rocked the van a little.  The creek at Northwood has a lot of puddles, muck and ambiguous water in it right now so it is casual on 5, 17, 18, and any other hole it sneaks up on.  For casual you get relief straight back from the basket or you play it where it lies.  Because it has a mud bottom and the banks are a little treacherous in some places, I'm allowing infinite relief straight back from the basket.  I have the power to overrule the 5 meter limit and I'm doing so.  Otherwise, the rain drained really well.  The courses are green, trimmed, and really tidy. 

Final scores are up for Adv Pro

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6108&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

The Peoria Open was lightly attended but worth doing.  The Peoria club did an awesome job of getting the courses cleaned up and well groomed.  If we go down there next year, we'll do it as an IOS tournament and bring enough volunteers that I can play one day or the other. 

Since you have two courses and had a light turnout this year you could consider running it as a one day event so you can get home earlier.

We were actually thinking of putting it on the schedule earlier and promoting it into something bigger.  The problem with one-day events is we cannot play.  We had that problem anyway since my volunteers went to camp and Jon hurt his back. 

Setting up and tearing down tournament central four times for 64 players was an unusual ratio.  Twice for 200 works better for me.  I got my exercise this weekend.  Many thanks to Chris, Adrian, Adrian, and Maddisen for helping out with that. 

just got back to baltimore last night.  thanks for the hospitality, folks.  the tourney was fun and the courses were both first rate.  nice meeting everyone and i look forward to coming back.  give me a shout if you find yourself in MD (www.md-discgolf.com).

i'll try to make it out again next year to redeem myself at northwoods.  i added at least 12 strokes to my round from the day prior.  ::)

I'm racing the gun to get the TD report in for ratings.  I have to get it done before I go play tomorrow, so I'm guessing it will be in the e-mail by 1:00 a.m.

Our upper day pro event value was 103%!  I must have forgot to deduct for the trophy or something.

Our upper day amateur event value was 132%. 

Sorry I did not do these earlier.  I've been low-grade sick all summer and doing trophies and other dued discs for tournaments, leagues and vendors almost continuously. 

I picked up some errors in the TD report and my Advanced payouts came up to 135%.  My int/rec payouts were 154%.  They get a bigger number on the percent because they pay a lower entry fee.  Otherwise, they get the same deal: a 15 brass player pack for which we only deduct 10 and 3 brass per player in CTPs. 

Both TD reports are sent.  They should get included in the ratings update. 

Oh, I noticed some other mistakes.  Becky, I overpaid you 10 brass.  I'll get it in Aurora.  And I put out one too many CTPs for Advanced so Mike Clark, I'll need that 12 brass back. 

Ha, ha, just kidding.