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Disc Golf Related => Illinois Open Series => Topic started by: Bruce Brakel on June 27, 2006, 08:06:29 AM

Title: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 27, 2006, 08:06:29 AM
The ace pool is currently at 580 or something.  Jon has the exact number.  It will get up to $750 Saturday at Rockford and then we'll cap it and start a reserve ace pool.  These are the cap rules:

No Aces:  Both ace pools roll over to Sunday
One Ace:  $750.  Reserve rolls over to Sunday.
Two Aces: $375 each. Reserve rolls over to Sunday.
Three or more aces: Both ace pools are combined and split equally by shares.  A player with two aces would get two shares. 

The ace pool splits all day on multiple aces.  A morning ace splits with an afternoon ace. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 27, 2006, 08:23:48 AM
we got mulch laid around every single tee pad on the old side and the baskets should be changed into their tournament position within the next two weeks.  if you folks want a particular hole in a certain position say the word, nothing is written in stone yet...
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 27, 2006, 08:30:13 AM
This is how the USADGC qualifying will go at Rockford:

The top 20% in Advanced who are not already qualified will qualify.  You must play in the Advanced division to qualify.  A lot of our really good am players are going to qualify at Michiana, so qualification could drop pretty deep.  

We are averaging 54 advanced players per tournament, but we just promoted a dozen northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin intermediate and rec players to advanced, so that number is going up.  Rockford will qualify 12 to 14 Advanced players going maybe to 16th or 17th place in the field, maybe deeper.  It looks to me like 930 rated disc golf will qualify.  

If you qualify, remind Jon that we have to e-mail in the results by Monday after the tournament to guarantee your spot.  
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 27, 2006, 09:07:46 AM
More Rockford Stuff.

We are planning on setting up the old course with four extra holes.  The new course will be played in whatever configuration Greg arranges for the tournament with no extra holes.  So the tournament will be 22-18 or 18-22 depending on your division. 

We are limiting the field to two pools of 72 players each day, 144 - 144.  No fivesomes!!!  We may need a longer lunch hour than normal to process that many players, but we want to let in as many players as possible.  There will be a 72 player limit in the Advanced division.  I would not be surprised if we hit that cap since we are likely to draw players from Peoria, the Quad Cities and Madison who don't normally come to our Chicago events.  On Sunday we will divide up the divisions in a way that gets as many players as possible on the courses.  Rec and Intermediate men will be opposite pools.  Women and Juniors may be in either pool. 

The two pools will finish their morning rounds at different times.  Therefore, they will start their second round player meetings at different times. 

We had 167 players last year.  We are seeing about 50% growth in our events this year over last year, so 250 players this year could happen.  Pre-registering helps us get scores on-line faster and it helps us with making trophies in advance.  We may do something special each day for one pre-registered player.  Stay tuned on that. 

Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 27, 2006, 09:52:28 AM
one thought i had for the new course is taking out alot of the short holes in the back nine and placing them in different parts of the park to extend the course, reduce congestion, and ultiamtely have better golf shots.  so this is going to require the four extra baskets for the old side and probably six for the new side, 10 baskets all together. 

would this effort be worth it or would you all rather play the new side as is?

feedback is appreciated!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 27, 2006, 10:18:16 AM
here's the first draft of this years stamp...
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mike S on June 27, 2006, 10:53:50 AM
That style was definitely my favorite stamp from last year.  I like it.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 27, 2006, 11:13:50 AM
QuoteThat style was definitely my favorite stamp from last year.  I like it.

thanks alot.  it was a triple effort between a friend, myslef, and a some brews. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 27, 2006, 11:15:02 AM
I'm ready to go with that artwork.  Send it to Erich or Keith at Discraft.  I'll be calling them today.  They need a hi-res version.  

Greg, consult with Brett on the extra holes or course redesign.  Brett usually sets up extra holes.  He brings baskets.  Extra holes are a lot of work and they present opportunities for things to get effed up.  Brett sounded like he was volunteering to do four extras for 18-22.  You and Brett need to figure out what you are doing over the next couple of weeks so that Jon can do scorecards.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 27, 2006, 11:18:01 AM
QuoteI'm ready to go with that artwork.  Send it to Erich or Keith at Discraft.  I'll be calling them today.  They need a hi-res version. 

they got it.  i told erich you'd be in contact with him before the day's end...

Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: white_rhino on June 27, 2006, 11:46:44 AM
That's a sick design for a disc!  It looks like the Celtic Tree of Life...Nice!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: El Mexicano on June 27, 2006, 12:05:43 PM
Just a reminder that Am Worlds ends on that Saturday, so the turnout may not be as expected.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 27, 2006, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: El Mexicano on June 27, 2006, 12:05:43 PM
Just a reminder that Am Worlds ends on that Saturday, so the turnout may not be as expected.

Actually, Am Worlds is one of the best weekends to run an event around here. There are very few that are attending Worlds in Tulsa. Next year we will not try to compete with Worlds though ;).
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 27, 2006, 02:09:01 PM
What we have found, and I really hate to give away our trade secret information for free like this, is that a lot of TDs avoid "Big Event" weekends, like Worlds and USDGC and some of the NTs that fill up.  That leaves players with fewer options and us with fewer tournaments splitting the player base.  Those are our best weekends. 

I went through the Worlds pre-reg list.  For Rockford we're losing Jim Bassett and Neal Swanson.  That is about the same number of players we lost to the Great Lakes Open.  For Rockford we might need to lose Swanson and Bassett to accomodate 288 other players who want to play.
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Rockford stamped discs will include D, Soft X and Elite X Challengers, D and Cryztal Z Buzzzes, Flashes, Avengers and GT Drivers.  The Elite X Challengers will be the trophy discs.  The D-Challengers and D-Buzzzes will be available as D-discs in the Throw Discraft Player pack. 
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To Jon and Jo-Jo:  I'll have the IOS Overall trophy discs by Peoria.  These will be uncolored Z-Buzzzes with the 2006 IOS stamp.  Dumb me:  Keith said, "These are part of the sponsorship deal right?"  I failed to say, "Right."  I reflexively gave him an honest answer.   ::)  I said, "All you were sponsoring on these was the whiteness."   
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: smyith on June 28, 2006, 06:14:33 AM
which course is old(east?) and which is the new(west?)?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 28, 2006, 06:26:54 AM
old is east - more open, rolling faiways, longer holes, great baskets

new is west - tighter, more wooded, more shade
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Chainmeister on June 28, 2006, 06:39:59 AM
Quote from: whofarted on June 27, 2006, 08:23:48 AM
we got mulch laid around every single tee pad on the old side and the baskets should be changed into their tournament position within the next two weeks.  if you folks want a particular hole in a certain position say the word, nothing is written in stone yet...

I was there yeesterday.  The mulch was very helpful.  Thanks.  Some of the A, B signs were wrong, but you guys are changing baskets soon anyway. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 28, 2006, 06:46:48 AM
QuoteI was there yeesterday.  The mulch was very helpful.  Thanks.

when i talked to the park distrcit last i left off with them under the impression that they would dump a yard behind every tee pad and we would be responcible for spreading it.  it was a nice suprise to see that they took the initiative to do some of that work.  i think i still may ask them to lay a yard by some of them though, because over the years some of those teepads have really eroded the surrounding area.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 28, 2006, 12:34:42 PM
Greg and Brett are working on course design for the Rockford IOS, Forest City Frenzy II.  I heard that they were thinking maybe 22 holes on the old course and 20 on the new.  We will still be limiting the field to foursomes.  I'll let you know more as I know more.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 28, 2006, 02:24:08 PM
yea, we both felt that changing the new side drastically would confuse some, piss off others, and generally make more work for what will could potentially be a very active weekend.  so what we have decided on so far is adding four to the old side and adding two to the new side, leaving the new sides 18 baskets the way they are.  this could change again but i think that it wont deviate too far from what we decided on yesterday.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 29, 2006, 07:38:47 PM
I got the word today that Marshall Street is going to sponsor 18 CTP's for this event. They are sending a mix of DVD's and T-Shirts. SWEET!!!

http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/home.asp?PARTNER=discontinuum
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 29, 2006, 08:48:49 PM
Excellent!  I was dying to announce, but it was all Brett's doing so I was biting my tongue.  We're going to do them like this:

9 -- Saturday Morning
2 -- Open Pros
1 -- All other pros
5 -- Advanced
1 -- All other amateurs

9 -- Sunday Morning
4 -- Intermediate
3 -- Rec
1 -- All Juniors
1 -- All women

The fact that you guys faithfully patronize our events in huge numbers is what makes sponsorship happen.  The IOS is literally the biggest thing in the Midwest right now, as far as I know.  Might be the biggest thing in the PDGA. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on June 30, 2006, 07:07:56 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on June 29, 2006, 08:48:49 PM
The fact that you guys faithfully patronize our events in huge numbers is what makes sponsorship happen.  The IOS is literally the biggest thing in the Midwest right now, as far as I know.  Might be the biggest thing in the PDGA. 

Awesome!   :icon_salut:
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on June 30, 2006, 07:31:03 AM
thats huge!  hats off to the brakels, brett, and all the others making things happen.  i can assure you all that it doesnt just fall in their lap - they are out there working for it, and working hard.  so next time you see one of them make sure you give em a hearty handshake and let them know thier efforts are apperciated.

on the rockford end of things i am seriously looking forward to a big event.  i went out last night and ran into some recreational players that have started coming out on wednesday nights.   hearing them get all stoked makes me think that alot of locals will be participating and having these marshall street treats, a huge ace pool, a well run event, and all that just makes that total package look so good.  cant wait!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 05:48:01 AM
Old Side IOS Hole Positions
Hole/ Position/ Distance in Ft./ Long or Short

1.  B 289 L
2.  B 274 S
3.  B 327 S
4.  A 260 L
5.  B 407 L
6.  A 305 S
7.  A 466 L
8.  A 306 L
9.  B 286 R
10. A 256 S
11. A 334 L
12. B 397 L
13. A 350 S
14. B 310 L
15. B 433 L
16. A 285 S
17. A 195 R
18. B 355 L
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: tjdub42 on July 03, 2006, 08:01:32 AM
Greg,

Have you placed all pins in there tournament positions yet?  If not, when do you expect them to be there?

What does "R" mean in the long or short column?

Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 03, 2006, 08:06:16 AM
maybe it means "regular" because I don't remember where an alternate would be placed on 9 or 17... although I've only played once.

ditto on the "are they in the tournament positions yet" question because my family is going to have a "Rockford Outing" and go play East and West tomorrow! :)
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 08:12:53 AM
Not sure exactlly when they'll be moved, hopefully within the next week here, but it all depends on what the key holder for the baskets has planned.  If I run into him today then hopefully they'll moved by the afternoon, but he has a way of putting these things on the back burner so it is really all up in the air.  I will get them in asap though because I too want to practice them.

Two holes, 9 and 17, are exactlly the same distance so the 'R' indicates if they are in the right or left position.  9 is a anhyzer, 17 is the absolute ace shot.  Bring your 3 bucks!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 08:24:39 AM
spitner - if you are intrested we will be playing for lincolns at 10am (this could also mean 11am depending on how people are doing in the morning) and probably messing around the rest of the afternoon.  look for my blue VW if you are intrested.  also, if you run into a guy selling discs out of a big truck ask him about the hole positions for the tournament - that may prompt him to start moving those baskets sooner than later.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 03, 2006, 09:06:32 AM
Quote from: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 08:24:39 AM
spitner - if you are intrested we will be playing for lincolns at 10am (this could also mean 11am depending on how people are doing in the morning) and probably messing around the rest of the afternoon.  look for my blue VW if you are intrested.  also, if you run into a guy selling discs out of a big truck ask him about the hole positions for the tournament - that may prompt him to start moving those baskets sooner than later.

not sure how early we are going to be out there, but I think we'll probably just stick to our group.  My dad just started playing last month, and my wife and my mom will be walking the course with us but probably not playing... so playing with the rest of all of you probably won't work out.

I'll be on the lookout for the guy selling discs :)
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SD Pat on July 03, 2006, 01:49:55 PM
Quote from: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 08:12:53 AM
Not sure exactlly when they'll be moved, hopefully within the next week here, but it all depends on what the key holder for the baskets has planned.  If I run into him today then hopefully they'll moved by the afternoon, but he has a way of putting these things on the back burner so it is really all up in the air.  I will get them in asap though because I too want to practice them.

Two holes, 9 and 17, are exactlly the same distance so the 'R' indicates if they are in the right or left position.  9 is a anhyzer, 17 is the absolute ace shot.  Bring your 3 bucks!

I take offense to your terms here, 9 is a hyzer shot, do not be racist to us lefties!  Just going to have to kick your but at the tourney.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 03, 2006, 02:08:19 PM
Quote from: SD Pat on July 03, 2006, 01:49:55 PM
Quote from: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 08:12:53 AM
Not sure exactlly when they'll be moved, hopefully within the next week here, but it all depends on what the key holder for the baskets has planned.  If I run into him today then hopefully they'll moved by the afternoon, but he has a way of putting these things on the back burner so it is really all up in the air.  I will get them in asap though because I too want to practice them.

Two holes, 9 and 17, are exactlly the same distance so the 'R' indicates if they are in the right or left position.  9 is a anhyzer, 17 is the absolute ace shot.  Bring your 3 bucks!

I take offense to your terms here, 9 is a hyzer shot, do not be racist to us lefties!  Just going to have to kick your but at the tourney.

lol, lefties rule!  3 out of 4 disc golfers in my family are lefties (including myself!).  I'll just have to make sure I have my Roadrunner and Stratus at the ready...

Scott
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 03, 2006, 03:26:19 PM
the alternates got mapped out today.  it will be four on the new side between holes 9 and 10.   the first one is a 300 foot semi open shot and a very attainable duece.  the fairway is about 60 wide and there is one small tree in the middle that kind of makes the route more favorable to the lefties.  the second is another 300 foot shot that first goes slightly uphill until about 80 feet fromt the basket where there are four trees that make about a ten foot ceiling that you have to shoot under to park the hole.  the third is a 400 foot graduall uphill shot.  the basket is tucked into a cove of bushes and small trees and to get in there your upshot, or really long drive, has to hit a 10 foot gap (but punching through shouldnt be a problem for most).   the fourth is a open fairway shot that is long and has two giant shrubry formations near it that will be very hard to make a three out of if you go in there.  walking away par from the alternates will be better than average i am guessing. 

the old side will have two alternates.  the first comes off 18s basket.  it is a 250 foot shot that is a tight righty hyzer.  the fairway is about 30 wide, curves in both directions and goes up and downhill in parts.  its a neat looking and playing shot.  the second alternate is from the back of the field where the practice basket is located to the practice basket.  set up for lefties, it will play about 450 give or take.

Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 04, 2006, 09:43:55 PM
I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but is everyone on Sunday playing from the pro tees on the west course?  Those are marked with the tee signs.  We didn't even bother looking for the am tees since they weren't marked.  For the first time out to west I threw... meh... I guess lol.  I had a 72 on West and 71 on East (second time I've played East).  I know that so many of the baskets will be changed that I can't use that as a good basis, but man will it ever be tough.  I came very close to scoring a 3 on hole 10 on west (600 footer), but the 3rd shot was just barely to the left.  I'll happily take a 4 on it though considering I'm just now starting to hit 300' on my drives (on a good day lol)  I'm generally around 250-280... which is one of the reasons I play Rec hah.

And Rob ... if you read this ... Rob with a green camaro and front end damage.  Thanks so much for returning my brother's cell phone!  That was very awesome of you.  The first guy that found it?  Not a good idea to leave it on the picnic bench since someone else picked it up.  Thankfully it's back in my brother's hands once again :)  Man were we worried about that.

Always nice to have decent folk out on the disc golf course!  ;D

Scott

Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 05, 2006, 05:25:00 AM
everyone will be playing from the pro pads on the west course on sunday unless it rains over the weekend in which case the tee pads will be moved slightly to reduce wear and tear on the ground.   as for the score - i dont expect many to shoot under par for the day.   in fact, looking back on last years scores for the rec division a plus 24 for the day still paid out so take those fours with a grain of salt and rack up those dueces up when you can.  if you have a chace to play here again i would recommend practicing holes 13 through 18 on the west side - alot of dueces in there!  the old side will be a bit more foregiving.  the long holes will be long but the duce holes are out there too.   
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 08, 2006, 01:28:29 PM
Here's how to get to Anna Page by taking 'the bat cave' - you basically will have avoided Rockford all together, saved about 30 minutes worth of stop lights, and it is a few miles shorter than taking either State Street or Riverside.

from I-39/90 exit to US 20 and take US 20 West and exit at Meridian Road
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 08, 2006, 01:31:47 PM
From the exit ramp take a right, going North bound on Meridian Road.  The first set of lights you'll approach will be West State Street, then Auburn Rd.  Go past both these streets and take a right, heading East onto Safford Rd.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 08, 2006, 01:35:38 PM
Stay on Safford for about two miles until you get to the first stop sign, that will be Springfield Road - take a left there, going North bound and take an immediate left into the park and you are there!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 08, 2006, 01:42:53 PM
Heres what 'tournament central' will look like for the saturday players - we got 8 grills right there, a few electrical outlets, running water, bathrooms, a playground, enough room for at least 80 under the gazebo, and enough room arounf the gazebo for multiple practice areas and whatnot.  so bring a cooler and some food to grill up - it should be a pretty deluxe set up!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: tree on July 09, 2006, 02:52:46 AM
Are the Waterford Jr. Girls coming to Rockford? If so, what division is Kira playing?

Pre-register today!!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: mirth on July 10, 2006, 07:20:47 AM
dude, greg.... resize.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 10, 2006, 07:23:17 AM
The Waterford Brakel girls are all coming.  I'm not sure how the death of Emily's father and the disruption that caused to everyone's vacation plans will affect which of the rest are coming.  

Kiralyn, Jenny and Emily are all intermediate women now so that is where they will be playing, as many as are attending.  Sarah has been playing league.  If she's coming she is intermediate too.  The Rachels and Alyssa will play Rec women if any of them are coming. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 10, 2006, 10:49:27 AM
alrighty folks, i saw a bunch of you out here this weekend - i hope you all enjoyed the park and the nice weather.  if that was your one chance to practice here before the tournament i apologize for not having the baskets on the old side moved for you - but i did get a confirmation as to when they will be moved and that will be this wednesday night arounf 6pm, or whenever the keymaster gets to the course.  hopefully a handful of you can come out this wednesday for our 6pm get-together and see the hole configurations, if not, anytime between then and the tournament they should be in place and ready to be played!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: esau on July 10, 2006, 07:34:15 PM
does anna page get ridiculously crowded on saturdays?

last wednesday when i was there from about 2-5 the park was pretty quiet

plan on makin the trip this sat with some friends


Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 10, 2006, 07:43:18 PM
Quotedoes anna page get ridiculously crowded on saturdays?

its not horrible - you may have to play through some larger groups but it wont get much worse than that.  the old side gets played alot more than new side and as the day goes on more people populate the park, so if you want to avoid the crowds you may want to play the old side first.   
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 11, 2006, 08:45:27 PM
I explained the USADGC thing incorrectly, here or in e-mail, I'm not sure where.

According to Pad at Discraft the invitations go to the top 20% in advanced, no more than 20 players, irrespective of previous qualifying.  So spots don't bump down.  That's too complicated.  We're probably qualifying ten or 15 players, but if you good intermediates take a shot at it, some of you will get hot and qualify, and some of you will serve as qualification fodder for the rest.  $15 for trophy only and a $750 ace pool so why not try?  I qualified a couple of years ago and it still gives me warm feelings.   ;D  Brett, on the other hand, still has nightmares.  He wakes up screaming, "Turn right dammit!!!"   :o  I don't have nightmares because I was not foolish enough to actually play the tournament.   ::)

Also, they will be giving us some free USADGC stuff which will go to the highest scoring qualifier.  He was vague on how much stuff or what I should do with it.  "You know, whatever Todd put in the package, its what you get.  Its free.  Give it away."  I think it is two Super Color discs and some Qualification Certificates, but whatever it is, someone is going to get it. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: smyith on July 12, 2006, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 11, 2006, 08:45:27 PM
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Also, they will be giving us some free USADGC stuff which will go to the highest scoring qualifier.  He was vague on how much stuff or what I should do with it.  "You know, whatever Todd put in the package, its what you get.  Its free.  Give it away."  I think it is two Super Color discs and some Qualification Certificates, but whatever it is, someone is going to get it. 

at wham bam it was 2 or 4 super color discs and a bunch of ultra stars(i'm pissed i didn't get one)
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 12, 2006, 06:51:24 PM
Pad said today at the factory/office that if the Wham Bam bumped spots down and they should not have, those players are in. Then Pad and I read the USADGC stuff slowly, giving especial emphasis to the nouns and verbs.  We came to the conclusion that spots do bump down.  Because this IOS is coming late in the season, we might have some pre-qualified players bumping spots down. 

If by playing Advanced I make for a multiple of 5 + 1 more, I'll play advanced so we can give away one more spot.  If by me not playing but just helping out all day we can let in a lot more Advanced players, I'll not play and help Jon with the extra players. 

I've played the Tobbogan at three tournaments, maybe four, plus several cash doubles rounds.  I've won there playing bs doubles with Juliana as my partner.  I've been humbled by the course many times.  It is one course that will test you in every way. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Schwinn2 on July 13, 2006, 07:28:22 AM
At Wham Bam, spots did bump down.  There were 60 players which meant 12 would qualify.  Ben and like 5 other people finished 19th.  7 players in front of Ben already qualitifed, so Ben and the other people he tied received invites.  If there is a tie for the last spot, everyone who ties gets in.  Seeing how so many people had already qualified by Wham Bam, I'm guessing that at Rockford, the bump will go way down.  That means it's a really good tourney for people to play if they haven't qualified but want to!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 13, 2006, 08:36:13 AM
oh yea!  those baskets got moved on the old side last night and thereafter we had about 20 people for our weekly wednesday night 6pm get-together.  i shot it singles last night with another buddy on a bag tag challenge and both of us as well as everyone else liked the positions that were set up - hope you folks do to.  the front nine has a handful of easy dueces, both for right and left handers.  the back nine is simply par golf with 11, 14, 15, 16, and 18 in the long positions - so get those two's when you can! 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: discmonkey on July 13, 2006, 04:22:49 PM
Went out there today to practice.  First time playing those courses.  WOW.  What a geat place to play.  I played the cement tee course twice and the dirt once.  Hide baskets much???  Played with a local who showed me some of the routes.  Shot +3 twice on the cements and +1 off the dirt.  Was really happy with that.  These have got to be the best courses I've played.  Challenged every part of my game.  I can't wait for the tournament.  It's too bad it's 1.5 hrs away from me.  btw  was the course designed by a lefty or is it just me?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 17, 2006, 08:41:24 AM
QuoteWent out there today to practice.  First time playing those courses.  WOW.  What a geat place to play.  I played the cement tee course twice and the dirt once.  Hide baskets much???  Played with a local who showed me some of the routes.  Shot +3 twice on the cements and +1 off the dirt.  Was really happy with that.  These have got to be the best courses I've played.  Challenged every part of my game.  I can't wait for the tournament.  It's too bad it's 1.5 hrs away from me.  btw  was the course designed by a lefty or is it just me?

thanks for the compliments on the course - its not like i designed it or anything but i do like hearing that people like it!  a few of us spent some hours trimming and maintaing both sides.  both sides will be looking the best they have ever been - i garuntee it.  i am guessing that we moved about a 1000 pounds an hour of loose limbs, dead tree debris, and other things.  so expect all the fairways and brush to be void of nasty and rotten wood, litter, and all the other things that arent fun to step on or look at.   

as far as the lefty friendly design - i wouldnt go as far as saying that it is super lefty friendly although there are several simple lefty hyzers to play.  if you want a score for the day it'll require every shot you got.  singles scores have been hoovering around even on either side for most players if that says anything.

in these next two weeks expect more and more course maitnence.  the park district has basically said that they are donating their entire crew that resides in anna page to disc golf related work.  nealry all the big things have been done so from here on out it is going to be mainly making the course look top notch - laying more wood chips, a fresh coat of paint on the kiosk, raking the new sides tee pads flat and removing any rocks from the area, etc... 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Cannon Boy on July 17, 2006, 09:25:30 AM
Everytime I play with a righty group and kick their ass, it is always a lefty course in their eyes.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 17, 2006, 09:27:33 AM
Quote from: Cannon Boy on July 17, 2006, 09:25:30 AM
Everytime I play with a righty group and kick their ass, it is always a lefty course in their eyes.

& every time you lose you say the course sux.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Dan Michler on July 17, 2006, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on July 17, 2006, 09:27:33 AM
Quote from: Cannon Boy on July 17, 2006, 09:25:30 AM
Everytime I play with a righty group and kick their ass, it is always a lefty course in their eyes.

& every time you lose you say the course sux.

everytime u play with a righty group and get ur ass kicked, its an anti-lefty course.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Dan Michler on July 17, 2006, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on July 17, 2006, 09:27:33 AM
Quote from: Cannon Boy on July 17, 2006, 09:25:30 AM
Everytime I play with a righty group and kick their ass, it is always a lefty course in their eyes.

& every time you lose you say the course sux.

thats actually a very good excuse though if you save it for select times.  i have used it a couple times this year and i plan to use it atleast once more.

for Neal it doesn't work though cuz he thinks Fairfield is worthy of holding the USDGC.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Chainmeister on July 17, 2006, 12:01:23 PM
I don't know what excuses Neal has.  I think a good brass sidebet will be the Michler/Swanson derby.  We could either bet their score or by who talks the most ferocious trash.  I wonder if the trashtalk winner will get headbutted by the trashtalk loser.  It could be the World Cup of disc golf.  Nothing against you Dan, but I have to bet the short lefty.  That being said, this is a very tough course for a lefty.  The first four holes on the original course are all big annie's.  It tempts me to use a forehand off the tee, but I know better. As tough as it is for lefties, its a great course. I hope to play a round there tomorrow.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Tom McManus on July 17, 2006, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Chainmeister on July 17, 2006, 12:01:23 PM
  I think a good brass sidebet will be the Michler/Swanson derby.  We could either bet their score or by who talks the most ferocious trash. 

My money is on Dan.  I'd like him to write some material for me that I could use on my opponents.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Dan Michler on July 17, 2006, 12:56:40 PM
i don't think its really a righty or lefty course.  there are a couple deuce holes easier for righties and there are some that are easier lefty hyzers (hole 9, 10).  hole 1 is pretty  str8 forward no matter who u are, and 2 is a par hole for everybody so lefty/righty doesn't matter.  3 is obviously a righty hole, but 4 is a crapshoot no matter who u are.

i'm not really a trashtalker though, no reason to put more pressure on yourself than is already there.

No point in betting on dan vs. neal, Neal will be in Tulsa.  otherwise i would dominate him physically, mentally, and emotionally.  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 17, 2006, 02:20:29 PM
woohoo, just submitted online 2 rec pre-registrations for my brother and myself.  Hope the weather isn't too hot and sticky on Sunday!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 17, 2006, 03:33:40 PM
The long range accuweather foreguess is for middle to upper 80s and sunshine.  A bit cooler than yesterday or today. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 17, 2006, 10:03:23 PM
I went through the Am Worlds roster and it looks like we are losing three, maybe four, of our regular Illinois players, and none of our regular Wisconsin players to Am Worlds.  I saw Allen Hermosillo, Jim Bassett and those pro juniors.  So you all are going to need to pick up the slack and invite replacement players.   ;) 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 18, 2006, 10:10:32 AM
the PDGA webiste shows the 50th player preregistered!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: El Mexicano on July 18, 2006, 05:23:34 PM
Hey Brett, Mirth or whomever takes care of the preregistrations. I paid through Paypal for the IOS#$ and forgot to add my PDGA# in the comments Box. When you receive a payment without a PDGA# please use 24032. You can PM me if you have any questions. I appreciate the help.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: smyith on July 18, 2006, 07:09:15 PM
anybody have a digital camera? if so we should try to take footage and send it into discgolftv. always good publicity.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 18, 2006, 07:58:01 PM
Could someone explain on the qcdiscgolf.com message board that we are limiting the field to 144 each day because we don't have enough volunteers to do much more than that?  I cannot remember my password.   

It is possible that we will have enough volunteers to let in more players.  Last year Greg recruited a couple of very helpful volunteers.  You cannot really count your volunteers until you can see the whites of their eyes. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 19, 2006, 05:21:04 AM
QuoteIt is possible that we will have enough volunteers to let in more players.  Last year Greg recruited a couple of very helpful volunteers.  You cannot really count your volunteers until you can see the whites of their eyes. 

i got a few volunteers lined up that have been through the trenches of phish tour, college, and beyond - i think they'll be able to hang for the weekend. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 19, 2006, 06:48:15 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 18, 2006, 07:58:01 PM
You cannot really count your volunteers until you can see the whites of their eyes. 

Hey Bruce:    :icon_cyclops_ani:

You know I'll be there!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 19, 2006, 08:45:26 AM
Quote from: smyith on July 12, 2006, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 11, 2006, 08:45:27 PM
I
Also, they will be giving us some free USADGC stuff which will go to the highest scoring qualifier.  He was vague on how much stuff or what I should do with it.  "You know, whatever Todd put in the package, its what you get.  Its free.  Give it away."  I think it is two Super Color discs and some Qualification Certificates, but whatever it is, someone is going to get it. 

at wham bam it was 2 or 4 super color discs and a bunch of ultra stars(i'm pissed i didn't get one)

The SuperColor discs and UltraStars were for CTP's. Mike purchased the USADGC SuperColor discs to give to qualifying players, they didn't come the USADGC group directly.

So the decision has been made that spots "DO" bump down?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 19, 2006, 09:47:04 AM
Quoteanybody have a digital camera? if so we should try to take footage and send it into discgolftv. always good publicity.

i'll be getting my video recorder out for the safari holes.  i know some footage was shot at IOS 2.  What ever happened with that?  If it hasnt been submitted maybe someone could edit all the cumulative footage from the IOSs and send it in at the end of the year as an 'IOS picumentary'.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 19, 2006, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: SERG on July 19, 2006, 08:45:26 AM
Quote from: smyith on July 12, 2006, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 11, 2006, 08:45:27 PM
Also, they will be giving us some free USADGC stuff which will go to the highest scoring qualifier.  He was vague on how much stuff or what I should do with it.  "You know, whatever Todd put in the package, its what you get.  Its free.  Give it away."  I think it is two Super Color discs and some Qualification Certificates, but whatever it is, someone is going to get it. 
at wham bam it was 2 or 4 super color discs and a bunch of ultra stars(i'm pissed i didn't get one)
The SuperColor discs and UltraStars were for CTP's. Mike purchased the USADGC SuperColor discs to give to qualifying players, they didn't come the USADGC group directly.

So the decision has been made that spots "DO" bump down?
Spots do bump down. Here is a list of previously qualified players who will be graciously bumping spots down if they play.  Players from Illinois and the states we draw from are highlighted.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 20, 2006, 09:57:18 AM
I haven't seen anyone ask this question yet:  Which group plays which course first?  I care more about Sunday Int/Rec, but I'm sure people would want to know Pro/Adv as well.

My guess is that Pro's (Sat) will play East rd 1 and West rd 2.

Intermediate (Sun) East Rd 1 / West Rd 2.

And Adv (Sat) and Rec (Sun) would both be West Rd 1 and East round 2.

Or do I have the whole thing reversed?

Going to be interesting finding my starting tee on West heh.  All of those baskets are all over the place in the woods.  We had trouble at times trying to figure out which basket was the one to throw towards!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 20, 2006, 10:07:39 AM
Whoops! Quoted Brett on the tees but then re-read the post & the quote didn't address which course comes first.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 20, 2006, 10:26:31 AM
its probably a decision that will be made the day of the event - just like it was last year.  i feel that the old course is the better of the two courses so i'd like to have the upper divisions both days finish on that side.  but if one field is radically larger than another field than i would suggest that the smaller of the two fields play the new side first to minimize impact on the dirt tees, then have the large field mess em up in the afternoon.   for what it is worth, the dirt tees on the new side are nothing to be afraid of - honeslty, they are some of the nicest naturals that i've played on.  if precipitation plays a role like it did last year then we'll move the tee off area to another location - probably behind the tee pads ten feet, or to the side if fairway is a wide one.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: tjdub42 on July 20, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
Taking Greg's train of thought: 

If the max on starting at any one hole is 4, is there a cap on "plain" Adv/Rec/Int at 80 players?

   Old side round:  20 holes @ 4 players/hole

If so, better watch the registration lists to make sure no single division has more that 80 pre-registrants.  I guess the overage could change divisions (if their player rating allowed it on Sunday).
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 20, 2006, 11:34:12 AM
We will probably decide the order in which the divisions play the courses before the day of the event so that we can get CTP flags ready to go in advance.  We will be doing the Marshall Street CTPs in the morning each day. 

The Advanced Men's division will be one pool and all other divisions will be the other pool on Saturday.

Right now, nine of our pre-registered Advanced players have previously qualified for Am Nationals.  Spots are bumping waaaaaaaay down.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: smyith on July 20, 2006, 07:51:25 PM
If i play trophy only on the advance day and if i happen to qualify for the USADGC do i still get it?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 20, 2006, 08:22:59 PM
Quote from: smyith on July 20, 2006, 07:51:25 PM
If i play trophy only on the advance day and if i happen to qualify for the USADGC do i still get it?

Yes. As long as you play advanced men you are eligible.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: shawn on July 20, 2006, 09:12:48 PM
just found out that I have a wedding on the same day as this event and I registered...  can I change my registration to round lake's event?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 21, 2006, 08:55:35 AM
Quote from: shawn on July 20, 2006, 09:12:48 PM
just found out that I have a wedding on the same day as this event and I registered...  can I change my registration to round lake's event?

all I can say is that I hope you're not the groom lol
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: shawn on July 21, 2006, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: shawn on July 20, 2006, 09:12:48 PM
just found out that I have a wedding on the same day as this event and I registered...  can I change my registration to round lake's event?


If not just use the entry fee for lunch or something...
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 21, 2006, 11:20:11 AM
Rolling it over to Round Lake is no problem.  Mirth, Jon, make it so. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Chainmeister on July 21, 2006, 11:54:51 AM
Its kinda cool you can see the concrete teepads on the old course from 1355 ft
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: mirth on July 21, 2006, 12:03:28 PM
shawn/jon/bruce - done on my end. brett - update the pdga!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 22, 2006, 04:59:16 PM
Thank you. 

I'm working on trophies now.  I've decided to go a little deeper in Advanced.  If pre-reg picks up in any other divisions, I'll go deeper there too.  Right now I'm not doing Jr.s < 16 , 13 and Adv. Women because no one has pre-registered.  The trophy deadline is Tuesday at 5:00 or so. 

All of the trophies are under dye now.  I did a lot of inverted fire patterns. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 22, 2006, 08:43:00 PM
Could someone fix the spelling on my brother's name please?  It use to be spelled correctly, but unfortunately now it is not.  It should be Keith Pitner.  He's registered under Rec for IOS #4.

Thanks!

Scott
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 24, 2006, 09:27:01 AM
Sent in registrations for myself and Joe Weitzel today.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 24, 2006, 11:19:52 AM
I rinsed the trophy discs today at lunch time.  I really like the Adv Grandmaster trophy.  The lettering stretches pretty much from ear to ear on that one!  I'll see if I can get some pictures up of some of the ones I like.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: tree on July 24, 2006, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 22, 2006, 04:59:16 PM
Thank you. 

I'm working on trophies now.  I've decided to go a little deeper in Advanced.  If pre-reg picks up in any other divisions, I'll go deeper there too.  Right now I'm not doing Jr.s < 16 , 13 and Adv. Women because no one has pre-registered.  The trophy deadline is Tuesday at 5:00 or so. 

All of the trophies are under dye now.  I did a lot of inverted fire patterns. 

Bruce-I have an advanced woman-Katrina Kozar. Mirth-her fees were paid for IOS#1 but she cancelled the week of. She called us and wants to play Rockford. Call or PM me if you have any questions about her.

Tree
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 24, 2006, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: tree on July 24, 2006, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 22, 2006, 04:59:16 PM
Thank you. 

I'm working on trophies now.  I've decided to go a little deeper in Advanced.  If pre-reg picks up in any other divisions, I'll go deeper there too.  Right now I'm not doing Jr.s < 16 , 13 and Adv. Women because no one has pre-registered.  The trophy deadline is Tuesday at 5:00 or so. 

All of the trophies are under dye now.  I did a lot of inverted fire patterns. 

Bruce-I have an advanced woman-Katrina Kozar. Mirth-her fees were paid for IOS#1 but she cancelled the week of. She called us and wants to play Rockford. Call or PM me if you have any questions about her.

Tree
Just in time.  I'll get on it. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: tree on July 24, 2006, 03:09:44 PM
Adrian Sr is playing Advanced on Saturday? I thought he usually played Adv. Masters.

Sr. also mentioned that he and Jr. were going to be there both days-what division is he playing on SUnday?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: shawn on July 24, 2006, 04:48:11 PM
Adrian Sr. is trying to qualify for Am Worlds....  Jr. got his and since he has to go, he wants to play..  So, yes he is playing with the young guns..
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 24, 2006, 05:24:53 PM
If Adrian Sr. plays steady Adrian Sr. golf he'll qualify.  I might switch over and try to qualify. 

Jon, Becky, anyone who's not exhausted from playing on Saturday or who cares, we are supposed to pass out invitations at the tournament.  I'll print the list of pre-qualified players and try to remember to pick up some gold stars for their leaderboard cards. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 24, 2006, 08:30:28 PM
Quote from: shawn on July 24, 2006, 04:48:11 PM
Adrian Sr. is trying to qualify for Am Worlds....  Jr. got his and since he has to go, he wants to play..  So, yes he is playing with the young guns..

I think you mean Am Nationals...

Sr. has been playing some good golf. He would have qualified at Wham Bam if he would have played Advanced.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 24, 2006, 09:11:10 PM
Illinois Open Series #4 @ Rockford, IL
PDGA Sanctioned B-Tier, $250 added to pro purse
July 29th--Adv/Pro
July 30th--Int/Rec/Jr
Anna Page Park--East & West Course
www.brasscash.com

This event is the premier event of the Illinois Open Series. We are expecting well
over 200 players for the weekend. Both courses will be played. 6 temporary holes
will be added for a total of 42 holes played. There will be a final 4 safari for the
top 4 Open players.

Marshall Street has supplied 21 CTP items. Thank you Marshall Street!!
http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/
Combined with the usual IOS 2nd round CTP's there will be easily 50 CTP's during the
weekend.

IOS #4 is an Amateur Nationals qualifying event for the advanced division. There are
already 43 advanced players registered. At least nine will qualify for Am Nationals
and spots will go deep because of previously qualified players. This is one of the
last chances to qualify for one of the best amateur events. Check
www.amnationals.com for more information.

The Ace Pool will be $750.00. Last year Shane "Sleepy" Rose hit an ace on hole #4 of
the East course for $750.00. There has already been a $750.00 ace this year at
Crystal Lake.

There are currently 94 players registered for this event. There are 5 states
represented so far. There are 9 women registered in various divisions. You can check
links below for daily updates of registered players.

Saturday 7-29 (Adv/Pro)
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5687

Sunday 7-30 (Int/Rec/Jr)
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5688

You can listen to some information about the IOS and Rockford on PDGA Radio. Week of
July 17th. http://www.pdga.com/pdgaradio/index.php

We are strongly encouraging pre-registration. Check website for details.
www.brasscash.com

We hope you join us for an exciting weekend of disc golf.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 25, 2006, 06:16:47 AM
http://www.swedenhouselodge.com/

rooms are going to be pretty hard to come by this weekend because a huge annual convention that takes place here - the sweden house was the best deal i could find at 56 plus tax a night.  they only have 4 single rooms available so you may want to jump on one soon.   the ramada inn in south beloit is a great place too but i am not sure what their availibility is like.  if any of you out there have any questions about accomodations or anything rockford specific i'll be more than happy to help you out.  see you all this weekend!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 25, 2006, 06:50:10 AM
how far is the sweden house from the course?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 25, 2006, 07:01:36 AM
Google maps says about 8 1/2 miles or 20 minutes.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 25, 2006, 07:14:19 AM
QuoteGoogle maps says about 8 1/2 miles or 20 minutes.

thats sounds about right - just go east on state street (about 5mi) until you get to sprinfield rd.  take a right, going north, on springfield (about three miles) and the park will be on your left hand side. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: spike on July 25, 2006, 09:14:41 AM
i just pre-registered for myself in open masters and steve waters in advanced (men, i think).  can't wait to play on saturday...
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mike Clark on July 25, 2006, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: spike on July 25, 2006, 09:14:41 AM
i just pre-registered for myself in open masters and steve waters in advanced (men, i think).  can't wait to play on saturday...

lol

O0
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 25, 2006, 02:06:53 PM
Well, I heard thru the grapevine that Justin Bunnell from the St. Louis area might possibly be making the trip.
http://www.gdstour.com/team/kid.html
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mike S on July 25, 2006, 02:50:12 PM
Registered for sunday.  See you all there.  Anyone else interested in carpooling let me know - I'm leaving sunday and might be driving with a few people (depending on whether they are also playing Saturday or not).
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Younk on July 25, 2006, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: Mike S on July 25, 2006, 02:50:12 PM
Registered for sunday.  See you all there.  Anyone else interested in carpooling let me know - I'm leaving sunday and might be driving with a few people (depending on whether they are also playing Saturday or not).

I registered today for Sunday as well.  I'm out in Schaumburg.  I'll send you a PM
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 25, 2006, 09:21:24 PM
WOW!!!

118 preregistered so far.

6 States so far. IL, IA, WI, MI, CA, & KY. I have a feeling MO, MN, & IN will be represented as well.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: esau on July 25, 2006, 09:36:47 PM
ill be there on sunday, here are the discs ill have up for trade if the price is right...
most of these are in used but good condition unless otherwise noted...

174 Yellow Pro Beast (Slightly warped from the heat)
174 Red Orc
174 Blue Z Magnet
167 Yellow JuJu
173 Yellow Z XL
175 Tye Dye CE Teebird (Great Condition)
171 White Cheetah (Dog bite marks)
174 Yellow Pro Banshee
??? Orange #3 Driver
166 Light Blue Elite Pro XL (decent amount of wear)
??? Organge Z Xpress
172 Dark Blue Wraith (thrown about 30-40 times, no dings)
168 White Cyclone 2
173 Yellow Z Avenger (brand new basically)
171 Tye dye X XS
174 Orange Scream DT (brand new basically, feels like it might have been a proto run of sorts)
178 Yellow Wolf (Fair condition, small gouge on rim)
177 Red Bottom Print Roc
180(i think) White Star Stingray
176 Yellow 1999 In Flight Open Stingray(90% positive its a stingray)
172(i think) Light Blue Pro Wraith
??? Red CE Valkyrie (the older design, and this one is slightly warped from heat)
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 26, 2006, 01:59:07 PM
Two tournaments I use for a benchmark for Rockford are the Gayle Vaughn and the No Foolin'.  Both of those tournaments have two good 24 hole courses so they can accomodate as many as want to play.  For both tournaments the courses are in the same park or in the same green belt even if the parks are a couple of miles apart.  Both of those tournaments are ones that people come from all over to play, but they are only one-day or split-day B-tiers.  And they are both in the middle of a really big disc golf population.

We already have as many as the Gayle Vaughn.  Every other IOS has been bigger than the No Foolin.

Woo-Hoo! 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 27, 2006, 05:45:57 AM
quick question - if half the field is playing on one course and half on the other, will the round ratings be skewed or is there a way of differentiating between the two fields on both rounds?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: DougEDawg on July 27, 2006, 06:02:41 AM
Each round on each course will be rated separately.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Chainmeister on July 27, 2006, 06:19:28 AM
Bruce? Greg?

Its gonna be one of those types of weekends.  You know, jalapeno hot, tabasco hot, devilishly hot >:D, back of my neck feeling dirty and gritty hot, really @#$& hot.

Will either the Waterford girls or some locals be hawking liquids?  I think they would make some money on this. Frankly, this would be the type of event where a golf cart running around with a cooler would be a great idea. In any case, I will pack lots of ice and a few extra shirts and see you this weekend.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 27, 2006, 06:22:45 AM
maybe that questions was poorly put together.  lets say 50 adv are on the old side and 50 pros on the new side.  half the players round 1 scores will be different than the the other half that is on the other side.  so when it is entered into the pdga website will the old side be differentiated from the new side or will round 1 just be entered in as if everyone were playing the same course? 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Chainmeister on July 27, 2006, 06:28:34 AM
I thought the players on each course are playing different rounds.  There will be four rounds for the day:

round 1 old
round 1 new

round 2 old
round 2 new

Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 27, 2006, 06:32:14 AM
QuoteInsert Quote
Bruce? Greg?

Its gonna be one of those types of weekends.  You know, jalapeno hot, tabasco hot, devilishly hot , back of my neck feeling dirty and gritty hot, really @#$& hot.

Will either the Waterford girls or some locals be hawking liquids?  I think they would make some money on this. Frankly, this would be the type of event where a golf cart running around with a cooler would be a great idea. In any case, I will pack lots of ice and a few extra shirts and see you this weekend.

oh yes - there will be hawking of liquids.  i am 99% that the waterford girls will be swinging lemonades, ice tea, and all the other stuff.  my little brother will be peddling $2 32oz Gatorades of all varietes.  all liquids will be ice cold and ready to be served!

also, i am trying to talk a friend of mine into making a ton of shish-kabobs (probably spelled way off - so sound it out).  shes a great cook and what i am hoping is that the price per stick will be like 70 cnets or so (think cherry tomatoes, onions, peppers, animal flesh, etc...).  our idea was just to take donations for them, hopefully at a buck a piece so she can a make a few dollars for the efforts and everybody gets fed well with some real food at lunch.  we'll be talking tonight about it so i should know by the morning if she'll do it or not.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 27, 2006, 06:44:21 AM
QuoteThere will be four rounds for the day

exactlly!  the typical tournament doesnt have to factor in two seperate courses within one round's time for different players - so is there a way to register that so that it shows that the players that played the one side dont get weighted into the players that played the other side during the same rounds time? 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 27, 2006, 06:50:19 AM
We are bringing a couple of coolers that we are going to stock with bottled water and gatorade on ice.  I'm not sure where they will be on the courses or who will be at the popstand.  

Everyone will get accurate ratings.  The TD just has to set up the template correctly before uploading the scores.  Jon has that covered.  We may have too many players for same-day ratings.  Or we may have enough volunteers that Jon can do only that and the volunteers can cover everything else.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: adoni on July 27, 2006, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on July 27, 2006, 06:28:34 AM
I thought the players on each course are playing different rounds.  There will be four rounds for the day: ...

FOUR ROUNDS in one day???   :o

How will that be possible?  A casual 18 hole round is between 1 to 1.5 hours.  A tourney round can double that, add 1.5 hours lunch that's 7.5 hours of golf for two rounds, then do another break ... and so on and so on and so on .................

What's the final format?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 27, 2006, 10:42:14 AM
First round, some will play old & some new. Second round the same. 2 rounds, 1 on each course.

Quote from: Chainmeister on July 27, 2006, 06:28:34 AM

round 1 old
round 1 new

round 2 old
round 2 new



This isn't bible from my mouth by any means, though, but besides an Ironman-style event, I haven't seen many "4 rounds in 1 day" tournaments.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 27, 2006, 10:48:01 AM
sorry for any confusion - it is still two rounds each day.  what the four rounds is about is that one group will play the old side first then the new side, while anoter group plays the new side first then the old side - so there are four different sets of round ratings even though there are only two rounds played.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 27, 2006, 11:42:24 AM
Two rounds per day for any particular player.  One day tournament.  Saturday pre-registration has reached the point where we will be running two pools per day, one on each course, then you'll switch courses for the second round.  Advanced Men will be one pool.  Everyone else will be the other pool. 

We will keep Sunday in one pool if Sunday stays below 80 players.  Otherwise we'll split.  I don't mean split into two pools.  I mean take the money and run.   ;D

I'd tell you where we stand with pre-reg but pdga.com is taking a nap. 

I have a ton of merch, by the way.  I ordered for two tournaments.  Peoria was almost a half tournament.  There will definately be no shortage of Star Wraiths this time, either.  I have 60 of them. 

Diana is running the am sidebet
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on July 27, 2006, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: whofarted on July 27, 2006, 10:48:01 AM
sorry for any confusion - it is still two rounds each day. what the four rounds is about is that one group will play the old side first then the new side, while anoter group plays the new side first then the old side - so there are four different sets of round ratings even though there are only two rounds played.

let's add a 3rd course and make it really confusing.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 27, 2006, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 27, 2006, 11:42:24 AM
Two rounds per day for any particular player.  One day tournament.  Saturday pre-registration has reached the point where we will be running two pools per day, one on each course, then you'll switch courses for the second round.  Advanced Men will be one pool.  Everyone else will be the other pool. 

We will keep Sunday in one pool if Sunday stays below 80 players.  Otherwise we'll split.  I don't mean split into two pools.  I mean take the money and run.   ;D

I'd tell you where we stand with pre-reg but pdga.com is taking a nap. 

I have a ton of merch, by the way.  I ordered for two tournaments.  Peoria was almost a half tournament.  There will definately be no shortage of Star Wraiths this time, either.  I have 60 of them. 


How's the stock on the Thumb Grip Z-Surge?  Anything under 170?  I'm thinking about picking up another, but don't set one to the side for me becuase I'm not 100% sure yet.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 27, 2006, 12:40:24 PM
Clueless.  I have a lot of Surges but not sure which kinds.  Sold some thumb-grippers in Peoria.  Probably have some left. 

Looks like we are at 142 total on pre-reg, counting what is in the store but not processed yet.  I did not go through player by player to figure out days and divisions on that. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Dan Michler on July 28, 2006, 06:25:08 AM
62 prereg'd advanced!?!  holy shite!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 28, 2006, 06:28:19 AM
Quote62 prereg'd advanced!?!  holy shite!

any predictions on what it will be come tee off time?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: UMphreak on July 28, 2006, 06:34:38 AM
ehhh 10:17:42 how bout that
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 28, 2006, 07:00:10 AM
You have very little time to register online for IOS #4 @ Rockford, IL. Go to this link and register now. It will be closed soon!!  http://store.discontinuum.org/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=35

We will be accepting walk-ups but please get there early to register. If you have pre-registered please check in by 9am.

Don't miss out on this huge event. It is likely more that 250+ participants will be there.

B-Tier
$750.00 Ace
Tons of CTP's
2 great courses


Saturday--07/29/06 (Currently 100 players)
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5687

Sunday--07/30/06 (Currently 44 players)
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5688

Check www.brasscash.com for more information.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: pickax on July 28, 2006, 07:41:27 AM
I might be able to get over to Anna Page early Sunday. What time are you setting up? I'm sure you can always use more hands to volunteer.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 28, 2006, 08:52:22 AM
Quote from: krupicka on July 28, 2006, 07:41:27 AM
I might be able to get over to Anna Page early Sunday. What time are you setting up? I'm sure you can always use more hands to volunteer.

We usually arrive around 7am to start setting up. If Bruce doesn't sleep well or Diana forgets they are on Central time then they get there around 6am. Brett is usually setting up the extra baskets sometime around 7am as well.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 28, 2006, 09:56:58 AM
I'm really excited to see so many people pre-reged for this event. I've done more pre-work for this event than any of the others so I hope it goes smoothly.

At registration if you could have your 2006 PDGA card ready (if you are NOT pre-reged) it will help speed the registration process. We will have enough volunteers to have a pre-reg line and we'll try to keep it moving as fast as possible.

If you are pre-registered please check-in by 9am.

Can't wait to see you all at Rockford and I can't wait to play a round on Sunday! My back is at about 75% healed so assuming that we don't fill (is that even possible with two courses?!?!?!?) I'm going to play the first round and see how it goes. If somehow we fill I won't play because I don't want to DNF the second round and kick someone out who could have played the whole day.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 28, 2006, 12:17:47 PM
Since I didn't start playing until late September/early October of last year, I haven't played disc golf in the mass heat like the forecast mentions for this weekend.  Anyone have some recommendations on what to do to keep yourself cool?  Does water or Gatorade seem to help you going?  I brought Propel at IOS #2, and that seemed to work well.  Perhaps I'll do that again.  At least the west course has a lot of shade!  I'm too big of a guy for one of those little stools that people carry with them, although that would seem like a good idea.  Maybe even an umbrella?

Look forward to a great day Sunday!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 28, 2006, 12:30:24 PM
Just make sure to keep drinking liquids, stay in the shade if it's available when other people are shooting,  and don't make my mistake a few weekends ago in Peoria & drink something REALLY cold when you're blazing hot. Bad things can ensue.

Also, even though it seems like a good idea to bring lunch (it usually is), if you go somewhere like a Subway it helps to eat there, even if you're kinda hurrying to get back for the 2nd round, just to let the A/C cool you down.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: El Mexicano on July 28, 2006, 12:51:18 PM
Carry an extra water bottle (32oz) with you. It always seems to run out around the 9th hole ;D.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Chainmeister on July 28, 2006, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: Drathe on July 28, 2006, 12:30:24 PM
Also, even though it seems like a good idea to bring lunch (it usually is), if you go somewhere like a Subway it helps to eat there, even if you're kinda hurrying to get back for the 2nd round, just to let the A/C cool you down.

The problem is there really isn't anything close to Anna Page.  I think there is a bar about a mile away but I have never been there.  Greg, can a disc player walk in that place?  You might eat your sandwich in your air conditioned car.  

I am bringing a complete change of clothes for the second round.  I will bring a pair of Tevas.  I have played casual rounds in them and have no problem other than fighting brambles.  I might consider using them if its rediculous out there. I will freeze a few water bottles and propels the night before. These will act as ice cubes in the cooler and keep the cooler colder longer.  I will pull the one I want to use for the first round out for the drive up so the ice melts. I can't drink gatorade b/c of too much sugar but its very good for replenishment in hot hot weather.  If your body is ok processing sugar, use the gatorade. If you taste salt on your lips or if you wipe your brow and its caked with salt, you are starting to bonk-- drink more fluids and some type of sport drink like gatorade.  pack some type of energy bar and/or a piece of fruit in your bag for each round as well.  If the bar has chocolate you will have a mess.  Bring an extra towel and keep it in the car.  You may need to get it wet and just throw it over your head to get your temp down.  
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 28, 2006, 01:58:51 PM
I didn't find the Subway that far away but I have to concede the fact that:

1) I've never played a tourney at Anna Page & tried to drive there & get back in time

&

2) I kinda have a lead foot, especially when I know I'm on a time constraint.   ::)

If you take Riverside to the park the Subway is on the South side of the street, I'll check tomorrow morning how long & far it is from Subway to the park & let people know.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 28, 2006, 02:25:57 PM
The nearest Subway is at 3902 W Riverside.  It's 1.8 miles away from the intersection closest to the Park (Springfield & Safford).  You turn left and head north out of the parking lot and follow the road around the corner.  It's just East of the intersection of N Central Ave & Riverside.

I'll post if I can find out more info.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 28, 2006, 02:27:08 PM
Thanks! I knew it was close, just didn't make it a point to mark the mileage & I was too lazy to look it up online.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 28, 2006, 02:32:43 PM
Too bad the IN State Championships are the same weekend or I know we'd have more IN players per-registered. Looks like none at this point.  :-\
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 28, 2006, 02:33:28 PM
Here's the easiest way to look up some of this stuff (thank you google!)

Go to http://maps.google.com

Change the type of search under the search area to "find businesses", and then you can type in the restaurant name or search for "category: Restaurants" or "category: Restaurant fast food" and then enter "N Springfield Ave & Safford Rd,rockford, il" for the second box.  Then it will give you all of the stuff that is closest to the park.  I noticed that Subway didn't come up, but there was a number of items that come up in those searches that are also by Subway (eg. Arby's)

It's a great feature to use for other tournaments too!

Scott
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: UMphreak on July 28, 2006, 04:07:34 PM
sorry but its a tradition, must eat at Beef-a-roo E. Riverside Dr. I used to go to Sportscore for soccer every weekend back in the day.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 28, 2006, 06:36:59 PM
I haven't checked tonight but earlier today Intellicast was saying 96 high for Saturday but "only" 92 on Sunday. In my book 92 isn't too bad...just bring extra water.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on July 28, 2006, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 28, 2006, 06:36:59 PM
I haven't checked tonight but earlier today Intellicast was saying 96 high for Saturday but "only" 92 on Sunday. In my book 92 isn't too bad...just bring extra water.

Sunday: 97 (weather.com), 96 (accuweather). Intellicast is now 93 for Sunday, 92 for Sat. It's just hot. Once you're over 90 it really doesn't matter.

Firebirds indeed.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on July 30, 2006, 06:33:58 PM
Thanks for the great afternoon guys!  I'm glad to be a pround new member of Discontinuum as well  ;D
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: whofarted on July 30, 2006, 06:41:08 PM
a real big thanks to everyone that made it out this weekend.   the advanced field was massive, possibly one of the largest in the country outside of bowling green.  having 220+ players over the weekend with a 100 degree heat index just blows me away!  huge thanks to discontinuum and the brasscash crew for putting in the leg work to make these events possible.  

i gotta go now and wash the stank off before i call it a day.  

once again, thanks again to all the players and volunteers - its a treat to be a part of this and see folks from all over the midwest enjoy it.  looking forwad to next year!

open winner adam olsen's appraoch shot on safari hole 1...
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Dan Michler on July 30, 2006, 06:56:13 PM
wow, that was a huge event!  very fun time on some nice courses.  glad to see so many club members out there representing.

nice shooting Rock Pebbles, coming from way back with a hot 2nd round to win Intermediate today.  also congrats to brett for shooting well and picking up Tag #1, which i will be collecting shortly   8)

tourney couldn't have been much smoother, we got out of there at a pretty good time both days considering the number of people.  can't wait for IOS 5 @Streamwood in only 2 weeks, where the Ace will be worth $1000!!!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 31, 2006, 08:21:54 AM
Mea culpa:  I made a small mistake with the Men's Rec division which resulted in us paying out third place twice in order to make up for the mistake.  The people who tied for last brass in Men's Rec are owed two more brass each.  We pay out so much more than we have to, you all ought to just say, "Hey, no problem," but if you want your two brass, I'll make it good at Streamwood. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mukey on July 31, 2006, 08:35:22 AM
Thanks to the Brakels, Brett, Adrian Jr. & Sr., Michler, Mike K., Damon, and everyone else that helped out!

Lot of fun despite my score, but I got a CTP! Was on my first hole & first throw, all downhill after that.

See you all in 2 weeks!
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Mike Clark on July 31, 2006, 08:41:54 AM
Another great tournament. What an incredible turnout! Wish I could have stuck around for Sunday. Thanks for the fun.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 31, 2006, 08:53:52 AM
Quote from: Drathe on July 31, 2006, 08:35:22 AM
Thanks to the Brakels, Brett, Adrian Jr. & Sr., Michler, Mike K., Damon, and everyone else that helped out!

Lot of fun despite my score, but I got a CTP! Was on my first hole & first throw, all downhill after that.

See you all in 2 weeks!
I really like that at our tournaments you can lose the playoff for first resulting in finishing DFL in your two-girl division, but win the CTPs and go home a winner! 

I won 1/2 a CTP!  Ron and I were both about 75 feet out.  He paced it and could not say, so we split it. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Schwinn2 on July 31, 2006, 09:59:10 AM
Hey guys, Ben and I had another great time at one of your tourneys.  The weather blew, but that's not your fault.  I just need to get over the mental thing of  thinking I can't play in the heat, and I need to stop leaving my upshots short.   Bad, Marie!  >:(

But, on a more positive note, I won an all-division CTP on a +300 foot hole.  What's up with that guys?  You let a skinny girl beat you on a hole you should be able to park??!!   ;D

Anyhow, I had fun and look forward to #5.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 31, 2006, 12:02:27 PM
I have some pictures from the Safari Holes that I'd like to put up...can an album be made or should I post them here?

I've decided I'll just post here. I'll do my best with the downsizing.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: DougEDawg on July 31, 2006, 01:48:11 PM
So, who won what?  Any notables?  Maybe Jon will get the scores up online before the answer.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 31, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: DougEDawg on July 31, 2006, 01:48:11 PM
Any notables?

Sergio played his worst disc golf in a long time...(+6 for the day)...Courses were still awesome to play and I had a good time; too bad my putters were mad at me  ;D
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on July 31, 2006, 01:57:20 PM
Sorry about slow scores.  Jon and Becky do a lot of that during the tournament but were not able to this time. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 31, 2006, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: DougEDawg on July 31, 2006, 01:48:11 PM
So, who won what?  Any notables?  Maybe Jon will get the scores up online before the answer.

Becky stayed inside in the AC today and input all the day of registration and the scores. As soon as I get home I'll upload them. I'll also teach Becky how to do the upload thing so next time she can just get 'r done!

I actually forgot my computer this weekend which is why the scores weren't up. This actually turned into a blessing in disguise because I realized that the pressure to get the scores up the as soon as possible was stressing me out and I didn't get so stressed out this weekend. So, in the future I'm going to bring the laptop, but let have the tournament come first--then get the scores up when time permits.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on July 31, 2006, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 31, 2006, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: DougEDawg on July 31, 2006, 01:48:11 PM
So, who won what?  Any notables?  Maybe Jon will get the scores up online before the answer.

Becky stayed inside in the AC today and input all the day of registration and the scores. As soon as I get home I'll upload them. I'll also teach Becky how to do the upload thing so next time she can just get 'r done!

I actually forgot my computer this weekend which is why the scores weren't up. This actually turned into a blessing in disguise because I realized that the pressure to get the scores up the as soon as possible was stressing me out and I didn't get so stressed out this weekend. So, in the future I'm going to bring the laptop, but let have the tournament come first--then get the scores up when time permits.
I think we've gotten a bit spoiled with getting the results up almost immediately after a given round! Given the size of the field on Sat and the ridiculous weather we've been having, there's certainly no reason to apologize. They'll still be up light years ahead of most tournaments anyhow.

I was happy to help out and not play on Sat - just as well given my back situation which magically disappeared on Sunday - and was again impressed with the entire operation. It's certainly a task I'd never take on on a regular basis and I salute youse guys.

Speaking of Sunday, just for the record: apparently my card in the morning was realllly late getting in - although I thought there was still one more after us. It was logical to assume that it was the old fart holding things up, but I actually had a pretty good round and it was the *other* guys that were making a few holes slow. 2nd round, well, that was a bit different, and I apologized to my group, but since Rocky was on my card and he jumped from 10th to 1st, he, at least, wasn't complaining.  ;)

I completely hated playing in the rain in Rockford last year, but I wouldn't have minded it yesterday.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 31, 2006, 07:52:16 PM
Results are up. Thanks to Becky for inputting scores and names and pdga numbers. Please help out and check for mistakes. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5687&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5688&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on July 31, 2006, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 31, 2006, 07:52:16 PM
Results are up. Thanks to Becky for inputting scores and names and pdga numbers. Please help out and check for mistakes. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5687&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5688&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
Great job!! Except that Mike Robinson's PDGA # (pro) must be incorrect; links to somebody else and he's certainly not rated 774.

And I wanted my 2nd round to be rated over 900. Please take care of that, I've suffered enough.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: SERG on July 31, 2006, 10:30:18 PM
Which courses were played each round on Sunday?

Adrian Jr. played a little better on Sunday. Congrats on the win.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Tom McManus on August 01, 2006, 02:31:55 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 31, 2006, 07:52:16 PM
Results are up. Thanks to Becky for inputting scores and names and pdga numbers. Please help out and check for mistakes. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5687&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5688&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Intermediate

There was one more advanced master.  His first name was Perry, I don't recall his last name but I believe he was from northern Wisconsin.  He played the first round and about 7 holes of the second round.  He then dropped out due to the excessive heat.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Younk on August 01, 2006, 06:52:00 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 31, 2006, 08:21:54 AM
Mea culpa:  I made a small mistake with the Men's Rec division which resulted in us paying out third place twice in order to make up for the mistake.  The people who tied for last brass in Men's Rec are owed two more brass each.  We pay out so much more than we have to, you all ought to just say, "Hey, no problem," but if you want your two brass, I'll make it good at Streamwood. 
This immediately popped into my head:

"I want my two dollars"
    -Better Off Dead (1985)
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on August 01, 2006, 07:16:21 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on August 01, 2006, 02:31:55 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 31, 2006, 07:52:16 PM
Results are up. Thanks to Becky for inputting scores and names and pdga numbers. Please help out and check for mistakes. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5687&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5688&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Intermediate

There was one more advanced master. His first name was Perry, I don't recall his last name but I believe he was from northern Wisconsin.

Perry Adams. I met him last yr and I think he's from WI but much closer to Rockford.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: stpitner on August 01, 2006, 08:09:25 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on July 31, 2006, 08:21:54 AM
Mea culpa:  I made a small mistake with the Men's Rec division which resulted in us paying out third place twice in order to make up for the mistake.  The people who tied for last brass in Men's Rec are owed two more brass each.  We pay out so much more than we have to, you all ought to just say, "Hey, no problem," but if you want your two brass, I'll make it good at Streamwood. 

I think my brother (Keith) would appreciate the extra $2.  Maybe it will help him forget more about the $10 coin he lost at Crystal Lake  :P  If he can't make it to Streamwood or something I'll probably need to pick it up for him.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 01, 2006, 08:32:10 AM
When PDGA.com is up and running, I'll post a list of the players who were shorted by that confusion. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: pickax on August 01, 2006, 08:45:06 AM
It should be Kelsey, Keith Pitner, Josh Younkin, and Colin Crockett
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 01, 2006, 09:13:06 AM
Correct.  Kelsey got hers.  The other three were gone by the time I realized how the whole shuffle changed everything.  Now i'm not even certain whether they should have got more or less.  I'm taking back anything I said about 2 brass until I talk to Jon and get the payouts and the trophy-only players. 

What happened was one of the 135s got added wrong as a 145.  No one caught it until we got up to paying out third place, the 135s.  Heat stroke!  So I made it up to the 135 guy, but that changes the number tied for last brass and how many spots they were tied for.  It changed from a five-way tie for the last three spots to a four-way tie for the last two spots.  I think when I thought I owed them 2 brass each, I was thinking it was changed to a four-way tie for the last three spots.  But pulling the one guy out and bumping the rest down would make it a four-way tie for two spots. 

Probably everyone who was paid for 4th - 15th owes me 3 brass, since they really finished 5th - 15th.  Keep it.  I'll take it out of the brass that gets lost. 
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 01, 2006, 09:54:25 AM
Table had errors, hmmmm
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 01, 2006, 09:56:33 AM
Anyway, here's some interesting unofficial stats:

Here is what everyone wants to know:  How does par rate for each pool on each course?

PoolOldNewPar Avg
Sat. Pro, etc.962942952
Sat. Adv947944945.5
Sun. Int949938943.5
Sun. Rec Jr.954922938
So pros DO get higher ratings!  Some of that is the conditions.  The old course has less shade in the fairway [where pros tend to throw] and was played in the heat strokey second round by the pros.  I'm just glad to have the 6.5 additional bragging points for having played in the pro pool.  
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on August 01, 2006, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on August 01, 2006, 09:56:33 AM

The old course has less shade in the fairway [where pros tend to throw] and was played in the heat strokey second round by the pros.

yeah, but the Ints played it Sunday afternoon and I think the heat was even worse then.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: mirth on August 01, 2006, 10:51:45 AM
Serg - the folder's ready to accept your photos in the gallery. PM / IM if you have probs.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 03, 2006, 07:24:54 AM
Yesterday we learned that PDGA non-members do not qualify for Am Nationals.  I'm sorry for the confusion.  I never saw that anywhere on their website.  The following players received an envelope but did not qualify:

Jason Creviston
Luke Michel
Robert Thompson
John McGeachy

Not qualifying those players bumps invitations down to the 128s.  The following players qualified but did not receive envelopes:

26  Rocky Pebbles 
26  David O'Keefe 
26  Steve Slater 
26  Travis Brown 
26  Jason Rose   
26  Nathan Walser 
26  Randy Bruemmer 

If you e-mail office@amnationals, they will send you an invitation.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Dan Michler on August 03, 2006, 08:25:46 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on August 03, 2006, 07:24:54 AM
Yesterday we learned that PDGA non-members do not qualify for Am Nationals. I'm sorry for the confusion. I never saw that anywhere on their website. The following players received an envelope but did not qualify:

Jason Creviston
Luke Michel
Robert Thompson
John McGeachy

Not qualifying those players bumps invitations down to the 128s. The following players qualified but did not receive envelopes:

26 Rocky Pebbles
26 David O'Keefe
26 Steve Slater
26 Travis Brown
26 Jason Rose
26 Nathan Walser
26 Randy Bruemmer

If you e-mail office@amnationals, they will send you an invitation.


some of those guys already qualified.  that sux for Luke, he was planning to make the trip to MI after he qualified.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 03, 2006, 10:20:32 AM
Bruce,
   I'm not sure if you turned in names or not. Luke said he would have joined if he had to. I'll see him tonight. Can he still join & get in?
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 03, 2006, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on August 03, 2006, 10:20:32 AM
Bruce,
   I'm not sure if you turned in names or not. Luke said he would have joined if he had to. I'll see him tonight. Can he still join & get in?
Tell him to talk to office@amnationals.com.  Todd is a reasonable human being.  I think if Luke tells Todd he would have joined if he had known it was a requirement, Todd might let him in.  Sorry for the screw up.  I've gone back to their website and cannot find anywhere that you have to be a member whan you qualify.  I had never heard that before.
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: UMphreak on August 04, 2006, 03:00:04 PM
Sweet deal for me!  I was all bummed cause I didn't qualify, but that is no more.  JOIN THE PDGA
Title: Re: IOS #4 Forest City Frenzy -- Rockford
Post by: damonshort on August 04, 2006, 03:11:13 PM


Quote from: CEValkyrie on August 03, 2006, 10:20:32 AM
I've gone back to their website and cannot find anywhere that you have to be a member whan you qualify. I had never heard that before.
....http://www.amnationals.com/Qualification/qualifiers.htm

...says "3 ways to qualify for *current* PDGA Amateurs...."

maybe not explicit, but a pretty strong implication...