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Disc Golf Related => Illinois Open Series => Topic started by: CEValkyrie on September 18, 2006, 03:52:47 PM

Title: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 18, 2006, 03:52:47 PM
Wow! Can't believe the seriels finale is coming soon. This event filled on the Int/Rec/Jr day last year and has been one of our largest events since we started the IOS in 2003. Please preregister. We will play 2 rounds of 20 holes so we'll have a limit of 100 players each day. I've already started uploading names of preregistered players on the PDGA Tour page. Some of the names on there have not yet paid but they have played every event this year so i'm assuming they willl be there for #7. It saves me that hassle of uploading them since i've already have a document with them entered.

Pro/Adv
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5694

Int/Rec/Jr
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5693
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 18, 2006, 03:59:11 PM
Brett, please put me in Pro Masters.  It is more likely I'll play Pro Master than Am Master.  Do the Bears play on Monday night next week?   ;)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tree on September 18, 2006, 11:53:35 PM
Preregister for IOS#7 today!!
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mukey on September 19, 2006, 06:57:21 AM
Rex Grossman? He better save the arm for the important throws..... ;D
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: plasticfiya on September 19, 2006, 07:45:21 AM
you can add my name i prereged this morning
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tacimala on September 19, 2006, 07:53:41 AM
Hmmm Western Michigan University homecoming weekend or my first IOS event....this is definitely a tough decision. :(
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 19, 2006, 08:55:50 AM
At some point in time you'll have to make the emotional move to Illinois that would correspond with the geographical move you've already made.  You should play the Channahon tourney this weekend.  That's a pretty good course. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tacimala on September 19, 2006, 09:01:28 AM
Haha yea I know I need to. Homecoming is always something that will be revisited though.

I think I will be playing on Sunday as long as some of my clients pay me this week. It's on my list of tournies.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on September 19, 2006, 05:25:51 PM
Looks like there are a couple that need to be bumped up with the new ratings:
Currently pre-regd in Int
Ben Schwinn      22836     Yes     919      Madison     WI     USA
Doug Walker    25428    Yes    916     Vernon Hills    IL    USA
Currently pre-regd in Rec
Mike Packer      29772     Yes     910      Rockford     IL     USA
John Reese    29773    Yes    885     Machesny Park    IL    USA
Marie Schwinn    21297    Yes    876     Madison    WI    USA
Tim Steward    28106    Yes    876     Round Lake Beach    IL    USA
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: INNOVAtion on September 19, 2006, 07:40:26 PM
Did Rex Grossman really play?!?!?! was he any good?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: INNOVAtion on September 19, 2006, 07:41:12 PM
sorry i spoke in past tense.. do you think he'll be good?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 19, 2006, 08:42:11 PM
I think halway through the second round he'll see that a whole bunch of Chicago area players are winning, so he'll have Griese play the rest of the round for him. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: DougEDawg on September 20, 2006, 05:57:47 AM
Yeah.  Bump me to advanced, Brett.  I'll cover the diff. when I see you next.

Goodbye Int.!  You were good to me!  :'(
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: discmonkey on September 20, 2006, 07:30:49 AM
Sure, the one tournament I actually had a chance to win in rec (I play Fairfiled every day) and I get bumped up.....by one lousy point!!!  Looking at my round ratings, I can't figure how I moved up, but oh well.  Hopefully Aurora gave me enough points to pass Joe Stephens for IOS overall and I won't need Fairfield in rec.  We'll see.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Schwinn2 on September 20, 2006, 07:39:45 AM
I don't know how my rating went up.  I thought it was headed down a few points.  I'll be playing int for Fairfield, and Ben will guard the merch table/play video games with Maddisen.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Chainmeister on September 20, 2006, 08:03:32 AM
Or play open women so you and  Ben can both play on the same day.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mitch on September 20, 2006, 08:15:15 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on September 20, 2006, 08:03:32 AM
Or play open women so you and  Ben can both play on the same day.
Congatulations Marie on the rating increase.
You should consider Chainmeisters' suggestion. Play Trophy only, it's an inexpensive option and you won't threaten your Am status. Besides you would probably score well and get to play with Barrett if she shows up.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Schwinn2 on September 20, 2006, 09:09:25 AM
Unfortunately, Saturday at Fairfield won't work for us.  Anyhow, Mukey needs a Schwinn to compete against. But, next year I'll probably play trophy only pro so Ben can play advanced.  Even if I drop back down to rec, Ben most likely won't drop back down to int.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mukey on September 20, 2006, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: Schwinn2 on September 20, 2006, 09:09:25 AM
Anyhow, Mukey needs a Schwinn to compete against.

LOL!   And I was gonna post: Yes, Marie, please play Trophy-Only Pro Women!

Maybe I just need to come up to Wisconsin to play good golf. The Warmup this year was the only event I felt good about. Now I REALLY have my work cut out for me to try & catch Ben...     :s-bluecap:



Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 20, 2006, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: Schwinn2 on September 20, 2006, 07:39:45 AM
I don't know how my rating went up.  I thought it was headed down a few points.  I'll be playing int for Fairfield, and Ben will guard the merch table/play video games with Maddisen.


I think it will be Ben, Maddisen and I playing Mario DS at the merch table. Bruce and Brett will never have three more useless volunteers on Sunday!!! "Excuse me, can you tell me what disc I would buy to go to the right?" "Hold on...Ben's throwing bananas at me...be with you in a sec...hey Brett, can you help this dude?"  ;D
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 21, 2006, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: krupicka on September 19, 2006, 05:25:51 PM
Looks like there are a couple that need to be bumped up with the new ratings:
Currently pre-regd in Int
Ben Schwinn      22836     Yes     919      Madison     WI     USA
Doug Walker    25428    Yes    916     Vernon Hills    IL    USA
Currently pre-regd in Rec
Mike Packer      29772     Yes     910      Rockford     IL     USA
John Reese    29773    Yes    885     Machesny Park    IL    USA
Marie Schwinn    21297    Yes    876     Madison    WI    USA
Tim Steward    28106    Yes    876     Round Lake Beach    IL    USA


Once the points are updated in the next few days i'll go thur the Non PDGA members again to check ratings. Joe Stephens is now bumped up to Int & Brian Custer is now Advanced.  It looks like Roger Esquivel gets to play Int with a 911 rating which included 5 IOS events & IL States.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Cannon Boy on September 21, 2006, 10:17:29 PM
Going to be some stiff comp. in the open div.  with "Happy Gilmore" atending this event.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: can't putt on September 22, 2006, 05:09:03 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 21, 2006, 06:54:20 PM
... which included 5 IOS events & IL States.

Is it fair to include IL States since it is not included in the PDGA updates?  The reason I ask is that I'm pretty sure some PDGA members would be bumped had IL States been included.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 22, 2006, 07:46:23 AM
Quote from: can't putt on September 22, 2006, 05:09:03 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 21, 2006, 06:54:20 PM
... which included 5 IOS events & IL States.

Is it fair to include IL States since it is not included in the PDGA updates?  The reason I ask is that I'm pretty sure some PDGA members would be bumped had IL States been included.

That's a good point.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on September 22, 2006, 07:55:17 AM
It also helped prevent people from being bumped. It goes both ways. If the goal is to accurately get people in the correct divisions, include it. If the non-PDGA folk don't think it's fair, become a member so that you have an official rating.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Dan Michler on September 22, 2006, 08:10:22 AM
if u want to be accurate then how can you include IL States.  as we have seen, the preliminary ratings are often alot different than the official ratings.  that being said I would include it in case somebody has been tearing it up and has no business playing in a lower division.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on September 22, 2006, 08:33:30 AM
At least for the IOS tournaments, the unofficials were lower than the officials. Never higher.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on September 22, 2006, 09:01:50 AM
One thing that surprises me is the number of people that have shelled out $5 PDGA non-member fees for more than 5 tournaments over the year. These guys really need to be encouraged to join the PDGA before they show up at Fairfield.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Chainmeister on September 22, 2006, 09:11:46 AM
Much ado about nothing here.  You include ratings from the last official update-- period.  Ill States is slow and is not official.  Its not included. Some poeple go up and some go down when the late tourrnaments are included.  It all comes out in the wash.  Look up your rating on PDGA and use that figure for the next tournament. Yeah, the unofficials for IOS seem lower than official.  It doesn't matter as we should only group people based on official ratings. Its similar to when Nick and Kenny were non-PDGA and shooting lights out but nothing counted until they joined.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 22, 2006, 10:55:18 AM
My thought on IOS non-PDGA bumping is that if they had been a member for the past year and would be bumped by rating, then they should be bumped by rating, so I would only look at tournaments that count for members.  But I'm not doing the math.  I don't know if you are talking about someone in particular or what. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 22, 2006, 06:50:34 PM
I looked thru every IL event and any close WI events for rated rounds. You won't find too many TD's doing this. Tell your friends to play the IOS  ;). If you know these guys tell them to join the PDGA. If they purchase a PDGA membership prior to IOS #7 we have to allow them to play any division they choose if age & gender appropriate.


Brian Custer will definitely making the move up to Advanced.
IOS #1 916, 888
IOS #2 960, 970
IOS #3 911, 957
IOS #4 965, 912
IOS #5 955, 909
9343/10=934.3

Joe Stephens will definitely making the move up to Intermediate.
IOS #1 842, 888
IOS #3 939, 921
IOS #4 892, 893
IOS #5 899, 939
DGCI--- 955, 905
9073/10=907.3

Greg Guther will be able to continue to play Recreational
IOS #1 858, 835
IOS #2 872, 932
IOS #3 882, 891
IOS #4 892, 882
IOS #5 862, 799
8705/10= 870.5
IL States 784, 840
IOS #6 902, 832
12063/14=861.6

We will get back to you about Roger & Raynaldo.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 22, 2006, 07:06:16 PM
Yeah, it also makes sense that PDGA rules trump local rules on bumping.  The PDGA rules specifically provide that members cannot be bumped under local rules. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 22, 2006, 07:33:09 PM
Bruce and I talked via IM tonight. It is only fair that the ratings be calculated off the same ratings that every player has been rated off. This is why it's important for TD's to get reports sent in on time. See the breakdowns below & you'll see why.  Roger will be asked to bump up to Advanced for IOS #7. Raynaldo gets to play Int again. Of the top 15 points earners in Intermediate only 4 will have ratings that allow them to play in Intermedate after the update.

If they purchase a PDGA membership prior to IOS #7 we have to allow them to play any division they choose if age & gender appropriate.

Roger Esquivel
IOS #1 899,920
IOS #2 911,904
IOS #3 882-966
IOS #5 909, 919
Prarie 0. 911-957
9178/10= 917.8
IL STS 864, 906
10948/12=912.33
IOS #6 930,928
12806/14=914.7

(Ray)naldo Esquivel
IOS #1 916,899
IOS #2 881,913
IOS #3 920, 975
IOS #4 869,939
IOS #5 918, 879
Prairie O. 922, 936
10967/12=913.9
IL STS 908, 906
12781/14=912.9
IOS #6 883, 874
14538/16=908.6
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 22, 2006, 08:57:26 PM
To any non-members who are being bumped up:

I hope everyone understands that you are being bumped up based on the same tournaments that the PDGA is using to bump up PDGA members.  Many, many members got bumped up this last ratings update, including most of the points leaders in Rec and Intermediate.  Nobody is being worked here; this is the only fair way to deal with non-members.

If we missed any of your out-of-state PDGA scores, be sure to tell us. 

Finally, PDGA rules are quite clear that if you join the PDGA you can continue to play in your prefered division until the PDGA gives you a rating and moves you up.  Our bumping rule only applies to non-members. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: stpitner on September 22, 2006, 09:03:34 PM
I appreciate all of the effort you guys are putting into this!  Not many people would be willing to take the time to look at all of those ratings.

I do have a question though: for the guys that are bumped to the earlier day (eg. Brian Custer) and moving from intermediate to advanced, are you going to try to email them or send them a letter to let them know?  I would feel bad if they don't come to these boards, don't pre-register, show up on Sunday expecting to play and then told that they had to show up the day before in order to play.  You guys do such an awesome job already, it would stink to see someone get ticked to find out they missed the correct day and then start bad-mouthing the IOS tournaments.

Just a thought-
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 22, 2006, 09:16:03 PM
Brett is going to be personally contacting some of the bumped players.  So I'm hoping Brett is on that.  Brett: Intermediate non-members whom we are bumping to advanced -- make sure they are told personally. 

Also, I was on the phone with Jon tonight and he agrees with all of this too. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Abelardo Arenas on September 23, 2006, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 22, 2006, 07:33:09 PM
Roger will be asked to bump up to Advanced for IOS #7. Raynaldo gets to play Int again.

I'll let Roger & Ray know.

They're playing the Channahon Classic today; but I'll probably get with them on Sunday.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tacimala on September 23, 2006, 08:40:32 AM
So how would this affect the point standings for those people having to change divisions in the middle of a series?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 23, 2006, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: tacimala on September 23, 2006, 08:40:32 AM
So how would this affect the point standings for those people having to change divisions in the middle of a series?

Many PDGA players have been bumped. Pretty much the top 10 to 15 in Int & Rec. That was another factor we took into consideration when bumping these players.

SERIES POINTS
This series is set up for fun and competition. Overall champions win a trophy and bragging rights. If you play any day of the 2006 Illinois Open Series you are automatically entered into the series. It costs no extra fee to enter the series. There will be no deductions from tournament payouts to pay for overall series champion trophies. See trophy payouts below.
Points only count in the division in which they are earned. For example, if Bruce plays Advanced at the first event and receives 12 points then plays advanced masters at the next event and earns 12 points, he does not have a total of 24 points. He would have 12 points in advanced and 12 points in advanced masters.
Participants will be awarded one point for each tournament entered and one point for each player they beat in their division.
A player who DNFs (Does Not Finish), will receive 0 (zero) points for that tournament.
Overall points will be calculated from best 5 of 7 events.
Any ties for first place at the end of the series will result in a sudden death playoff at the Fairfield Fairwell. A player who is tied for first but is not present automatically loses the playoff.




Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tacimala on September 23, 2006, 09:40:39 AM
OK makes sense then. No money being taken out to go to the series winner so not a big deal to do that. Some series events take way too much money out of each event and in the end the person who improved the most over the season wins. I like this way better for sure.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 23, 2006, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: tacimala on September 23, 2006, 08:40:32 AM
So how would this affect the point standings for those people having to change divisions in the middle of a series?
Just to make it entirely clear, their points are frozen.  If a player earns enough points in Intermediate to win a season trophy disc, he gets his season trophy disc even if he gets bumped up to advanced for the last leg. 

Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
Went up there today, first time this year. Course looks good and the limestone isn't even that beat up - did you redo it before the doubles?

14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.

I even hit the basket on #9 - sounded like it hit the top, and managed to stay only about 10 ft away  8) Actually the way the wind was blowing it was a good thing it hit something...

How many holes for this? Is there a hole going to the new practice basket? there's probably a listing of the layout but I can't find it.

Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 02, 2006, 04:02:44 PM
Quote from: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
Went up there today, first time this year. Course looks good and the limestone isn't even that beat up - did you redo it before the doubles?

14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.

I even hit the basket on #9 - sounded like it hit the top, and managed to stay only about 10 ft away  8) Actually the way the wind was blowing it was a good thing it hit something...

How many holes for this? Is there a hole going to the new practice basket? there's probably a listing of the layout but I can't find it.

The limestone has not been worked on since last summer. It's holding up pretty good this year. It's going to be 20 holes. Yes, there will be a hole plyaing to the practice basket. The 19th hole will play from the path leading from 11 to 12. There should have been some paint & dirt marking the spot from yesterday.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tree on October 03, 2006, 05:10:22 AM
Quote from: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.


I'll bet the swamps aren't dry after last night!!! Did the farther North suburbs get the flash flood of Arlington Heights/Wheeling last night? Several streets were so flooded that cars were getting stranded!!
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Tom McManus on October 03, 2006, 06:06:35 AM
Quote from: tree on October 03, 2006, 05:10:22 AM
Quote from: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.


I'll bet the swamps aren't dry after last night!!! Did the farther North suburbs get the flash flood of Arlington Heights/Wheeling last night? Several streets were so flooded that cars were getting stranded!!

It rained hard in Gurnee, but no where near what Arlington Heights, Streamwood and many of the suburbs in Cook, Kane, and Dupage counties received.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: WkeBrd3 on October 03, 2006, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on October 03, 2006, 06:06:35 AM
Quote from: tree on October 03, 2006, 05:10:22 AM
Quote from: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.


I'll bet the swamps aren't dry after last night!!! Did the farther North suburbs get the flash flood of Arlington Heights/Wheeling last night? Several streets were so flooded that cars were getting stranded!!

It rained hard in Gurnee, but no where near what Arlington Heights, Streamwood and many of the suburbs in Cook, Kane, and Dupage counties received.

It came down pretty good in Algonquin. Lots-o-hail and the wind was so strong, it broke my flag pole in half!
  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 03, 2006, 08:08:26 AM
Are we doing yellow rope this year?   :huh:  We have one spool less yellow rope than last year!   >:(

Trophy discs are under dye.  Overall plaques have been ordered for first in the divisions where there have been competitiors playing the series.  If you are curious about your division, ask. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on October 03, 2006, 08:34:52 AM
I was thinking today, that in addition to people being bumped up, there are a couple that can play down. As a service to the players, if Becky sees an int player playing advanced on Saturday she may want to mention that they can come back and play again on Sunday.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Chainmeister on October 03, 2006, 08:44:42 AM
Quote from: tree on October 03, 2006, 05:10:22 AM
Quote from: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.


I'll bet the swamps aren't dry after last night!!! Did the farther North suburbs get the flash flood of Arlington Heights/Wheeling last night? Several streets were so flooded that cars were getting stranded!!

I saw on the news this mnorning that Wheeling got 3" + of rain last night.  Do we need to send a rescue boat? I drove through serious hail last night  @845 pm to come home to some seepage.  Fortunately, we got home in time to arrest any tide and to minimize any damage. I love shopvacs! Of course, I forgot to look out the back window to see if my skillshot is still in the backyard.  ??? ??? Hope its still there and in one piece.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 03, 2006, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on October 03, 2006, 08:44:42 AM
Quote from: tree on October 03, 2006, 05:10:22 AM
Quote from: damonshort on October 02, 2006, 03:56:34 PM
14a is a nice new little hole, and the swamps are reasonably dry.


I'll bet the swamps aren't dry after last night!!! Did the farther North suburbs get the flash flood of Arlington Heights/Wheeling last night? Several streets were so flooded that cars were getting stranded!!

I saw on the news this mnorning that Wheeling got 3" + of rain last night.  Do we need to send a rescue boat? I drove through serious hail last night  @845 pm to come home to some seepage.  Fortunately, we got home in time to arrest any tide and to minimize any damage. I love shopvacs! Of course, I forgot to look out the back window to see if my skillshot is still in the backyard.  ??? ??? Hope its still there and in one piece.

Becky and I were stranded on high ground in a church parking lot last night on our way home from class. Maddisen was at home alone in the dark because the power had gone off a little after 8pm. After the rain slowed to a drizzle we drove on thru a subdivision looking for a way to Buffalo Grove Road that wasn't under several feet of water. We kept getting within a block and then having to turn back because of high water. Arlington Heights road was a river in parts, class 5 rapids in other parts and a lake in still other places. We finally found our way to a higher section of Arlington Heights Road that lead us to Dundee. There was a part of Dundee that was only passable in the left turn lane which made a big backup but we finally made it home. I've never seen rain come down that hard for such a sustained amount of time.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tacimala on October 03, 2006, 09:52:47 AM
Yea the Edens was interesting too...driving north in the southbound lane between lake and willow was the only way out!
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: plasticfiya on October 03, 2006, 01:30:17 PM
i was on a emergancy job lastnight on a roof gettin pelted by hail trying to caulk a 5" hole. it was fun till the wind blew my ladder down and i had to call and wake up my boss to come save me. but at least i drive a big ol pickup truck and was able to drive thru all the flooded streets and i have to say sorry to this lil red honda who i swamped while passin him in a 3' deep puddle.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 04, 2006, 09:54:44 PM
The AccuWeather foreguess is highs in the 60s and partly sunny weather.  I hate it when the foreguess is that rosy ten days out! 

Anyway we have about 70 players on the list at PDGA.com.  I think Brett said he was putting some names on the list just to save time later, and not all of them are pre-registered.  If you pre-registered, you are pre-registered.  If Brett just put you on the list to save time later, you are not pre-registered.  If you forgot, ask Brett.

Dr. Dye tells me that what he is doing is on schedule.  The trophy man tells me the plaques will be done on time.  Looking forward to it. 

Last year we almost filled the lower day.  The Bears have a Monday night game this time, so we might fill.  Also, what with all the funky Illinois tournaments I keep reading about with no payouts and strange payouts, some players might be hungry for some well run sanctioned disc golf with generous am value.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mukey on October 05, 2006, 06:59:09 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on October 04, 2006, 09:54:44 PM
Also, what with all the funky Illinois tournaments I keep reading about with no payouts and strange payouts, some players might be hungry for some well run sanctioned disc golf with generous am value.

Yeah we are, not that I've done that well so far this year....

Thanks to the Brakels & Brett and everyone else that makes the IOS great!
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: snellum on October 06, 2006, 06:58:14 PM
Brett for some reason my name was removed from the prereg. list for Ios 7 .
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 06, 2006, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: snellum on October 06, 2006, 06:58:14 PM
Brett for some reason my name was removed from the prereg. list for Ios 7 .

Sorry about that. I'll get it back up on Monday when I get home.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mike S on October 08, 2006, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: Drathe on October 05, 2006, 06:59:09 AM
Quote from: bruce_brakel on October 04, 2006, 09:54:44 PM
Also, what with all the funky Illinois tournaments I keep reading about with no payouts and strange payouts, some players might be hungry for some well run sanctioned disc golf with generous am value.

Yeah we are, not that I've done that well so far this year....

Thanks to the Brakels and everyone else that makes the IOS great!

I dont know what you guys are talking about.  A full set of OdysseyTM discs is more than adequate for a first place finish (super-gyroscopic technology!!).  Definitely worth the entry fee.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: INNOVAtion on October 09, 2006, 09:04:53 AM
i signed up for the 16U division, and my name still doesnt show up on the PDGA registration page for the tournament. Is that bad?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2006, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: INNOVAtion on October 09, 2006, 09:04:53 AM
i signed up for the 16U division, and my name still doesnt show up on the PDGA registration page for the tournament. Is that bad?

Check again. I just finished updating the tour page.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 09, 2006, 01:27:38 PM
I would like all of the players who normally have only Discraft in their tournament bag to see me on SAturday or Sunday for their year end thank-you gift.  I never really announced the year-end bonus before because I never thought we'd get there in one year.  I talked about it with Jon, Brett and a few others, but they didn't see it happening either.  The bonus is not so big as to call it a bonus but it is big enough to call it a thank-you gift.  Here's my list of suspected Discraft-only bags:

Barrett
Jon
Apostolou Sr.
Myself

If there are others, let me know so I can divide up the bonus more generously.  If you are like one disc away, join the IOS Discraft Team!  Thank you for supporting the people who support our series. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: snellum on October 09, 2006, 06:41:02 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 06, 2006, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: snellum on October 06, 2006, 06:58:14 PM
Brett for some reason my name was removed from the prereg. list for Ios 7 .

Sorry about that. I'll get it back up on Monday when I get home.
brett im still not on the pre reg list .
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on October 09, 2006, 06:59:52 PM
Is there a course layout document yet with hole lengths, OB notes, etc for IOS #7? I think it's been a great thing to have posted ahead of time. I know it helped having it printed in my bag with all the different OB, drop zones, etc at Aurora.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2006, 07:02:35 PM
Quote from: krupicka on October 09, 2006, 06:59:52 PM
Is there a course layout document yet with hole lengths, OB notes, etc for IOS #7? I think it's been a great thing to have posted ahead of time. I know it helped having it printed in my bag with all the different OB, drop zones, etc at Aurora.

I do not have one for Fairfield. There is little OB out there.

Parking Lot is OB
Fence on North side of park is OB & does not come into play unless it's a really, really brutal shot.
Might be some rope OB around the swamp.
Creek on hole #14 or over is OB
That is it.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: mirth on October 09, 2006, 07:05:42 PM
farmers on the south of 18's fairway grow corn or soybeans this year?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2006, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 09, 2006, 07:05:42 PM
farmers on the south of 18's fairway grow corn or soybeans this year?

never has been. just casual ob since it's not clearly marked.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 09, 2006, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2006, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 09, 2006, 07:05:42 PM
farmers on the south of 18's fairway grow corn or soybeans this year?

never has been. just casual ob since it's not clearly marked.
:huh:
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2006, 07:40:01 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on October 09, 2006, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2006, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 09, 2006, 07:05:42 PM
farmers on the south of 18's fairway grow corn or soybeans this year?

never has been. just casual ob since it's not clearly marked.
:huh:
The field has never been ob in the past. It was always announced as casual ob if in the field.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tacimala on October 09, 2006, 07:52:52 PM
I think his question was asking if the field was corn or soybeans this year.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: damonshort on October 09, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: tacimala on October 09, 2006, 07:52:52 PM
I think his question was asking if the field was corn or soybeans this year.
I heard it was soybeans, and easier to find discs because of it  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: discmonkey on October 09, 2006, 10:19:42 PM
Soybeans.  Actually, it was harder to find discs this year as the entire view of any ground was blocked by leaves.  At least with the corn you could look up and down the rows.  The beans are dried and brown now and it shouldn't be a problem.  It'll be a little tougher hole this year simply because the swamp wasn't wet last year and this year it is all the way over to the edge by 18's fairway.  I'll bet there are a number of second shots on 18 this year thrown from ankle deep water.

Brett, any thought of making 11a an island green with the long grass being OB and the short grass around the practice basket being in bounds?  That is assuming we're playing the new tee to the practice basket.  It's a big enough area to be fair to all divisions, but would break up at least one of the 300ish straight and open holes with something different and a little more challenge.  How far is that hole anyway?  It's definitely longer than the other 11a, but I can't tell.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on October 10, 2006, 04:30:56 AM
For the field south of the park, when you say casual OB I assume you mean some sort of out-of-bounds sans penalty stroke special conditions area? I can't see how the casual obstacle 5m back helps.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 10, 2006, 06:05:11 AM
Quote from: krupicka on October 10, 2006, 04:30:56 AM
For the field south of the park, when you say casual OB I assume you mean some sort of out-of-bounds sans penalty stroke special conditions area? I can't see how the casual obstacle 5m back helps.

Right. We tell the players that if they are clearly in the crops (this year being soy beans) to take their disc and bring it in to where they will no longer be playing in the crops, no penalty. This is because the fence is only partialy there and there is no feasible way to mark the line. It would be 10 times more yellow rope than we have and would be a nightmare to put in there and take because its such a jungle. Plus, most places where you might get into the soy beans it is not too much help to bring back out of the soy beans. You're still in deep doo doo. My suggestion is to just not throw in there.  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Cannon Boy on October 10, 2006, 12:06:16 PM
I threw a couple of drives on 18 today and one went in the soybean field.  It is extremely easy to find your disc in the soybean field right now. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Schwinn2 on October 10, 2006, 01:24:36 PM
Just lookin' at the pre-reg list and noticed that Ben and I are registered for Saturday.  We'll only be playing on Sunday...me in the int men's division, and Ben in the MarioKart DS division.  Trophies ready for that, Bruce?  Looking forward to playing with Mukey.  I think I tanked well enough at USWDGC that I should drop down to Rec Men next year... 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mukey on October 10, 2006, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: Schwinn2 on October 10, 2006, 01:24:36 PM
Looking forward to playing with Mukey.

God knows why..... 

Actually I've been playing better lately. Crap! Just jinxed myself.   :tongue3:
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 10, 2006, 06:14:12 PM
Quote from: Schwinn2 on October 10, 2006, 01:24:36 PM
Just lookin' at the pre-reg list and noticed that Ben and I are registered for Saturday.  We'll only be playing on Sunday...me in the int men's division, and Ben in the MarioKart DS division.  Trophies ready for that, Bruce?  Looking forward to playing with Mukey.  I think I tanked well enough at USWDGC that I should drop down to Rec Men next year... 
Forgot all about that one.  Doing it now.  I'll also check the divisions against the trophies to make sure we have trophies for pre-registered disc golf divisions. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: DougEDawg on October 11, 2006, 05:50:58 AM
No scorpions, but it looks like it could be a unpleasant for both days.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Chainmeister on October 11, 2006, 06:38:32 AM
Quote from: DougEDawg on October 11, 2006, 05:50:58 AM
No scorpions, but it looks like it could be a unpleasant for both days.

Per the Weather Channel:

Oct 14  Saturday
Sunshine. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the upper 30s.
Oct 15  Sunday
Showers. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s.


Overstable discs, raingear, gloves, boots, extra socks.  Be a boy scout and be prepared.  Good weekend to  play pro or advanced.  I'll bring equipment to deal with the elements on Sunday. It still beats working. I don't know about playing video games in the rain, but will leave that to Jon to figure out. Will the park district let us build a bonfire to keep warm between rounds? ;D
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 11, 2006, 07:50:30 AM
Accuweather has a better forecast.  I'm going with Accuweather!   8)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 11, 2006, 07:52:23 AM
Chicago weather this morning called for 55 on Saturday & 59 on Sunday with no rain.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: stpitner on October 11, 2006, 08:01:48 AM
We all know that weathermen are only 30% right 70% of the time, so the chance of the forecast being correct is 50/50, either it is or it isn't :)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mukey on October 11, 2006, 08:13:27 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 11, 2006, 07:52:23 AM
Chicago weather this morning called for 55 on Saturday & 59 on Sunday with no rain.

Yeah, I watch Channel 9 and Tom Skilling was calling for rain on Sunday last night, but his counterpart in the morning called for sunny skies.

The weatherman is just a news reporter that didn't make it. Check the night before & then get up & look at the sky.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 11, 2006, 09:13:49 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on October 11, 2006, 06:38:32 AM
I don't know about playing video games in the rain, but will leave that to Jon to figure out.

It's not going to rain, but I believe our entry fee gives us casual rights to the trailer (when Bruce and Brett don't need it for official business). We will also have Brett's tent (I hope!).
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: drdye on October 11, 2006, 05:23:04 PM
Hey, even if it rains we will still have some cool trophys for the overall points winners!!!

Check em out... http://www.drdyed.com/gallery/album24?page=1

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 11, 2006, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: drdye on October 11, 2006, 05:23:04 PM
Hey, even if it rains we will still have some cool trophys for the overall points winners!!!

Check em out... http://www.drdyed.com/gallery/album24?page=1

;D ;D ;D
Holy cow!  Those are more than awesome. 

For first in every division that has not been exempted for lack of players, we'll have a plaque to mount it to.  For other places that are receiving overall awards, we'll have a black enamel and brass tag you can put on the disc, if you want to use it for a trophy. 
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: discmonkey on October 11, 2006, 08:46:38 PM
Those are all sweet.  Great job.  And thanks, that must have been a lot of work.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: drdye on October 11, 2006, 10:02:30 PM
Thanks guys!!!  I tried to make sure and dye up 25 unique designs O0
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tree on October 12, 2006, 07:05:37 AM
Quote from: drdye on October 11, 2006, 10:02:30 PM
Thanks guys!!!  I tried to make sure and dye up 25 unique designs O0

Very nice work, Dr. Dye  8)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mukey on October 12, 2006, 07:14:04 AM
Schweet dyes Joe!
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: drdye on October 12, 2006, 02:19:23 PM
Thanks guys ;D
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: UMphreak on October 12, 2006, 04:31:10 PM
Those are all sweet, can't wait to get mine!
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: pickax on October 13, 2006, 06:39:51 AM
Sunny and 50/54 for Saturday/Sunday. Nice, though the mornings are going to be a tad chilly to start out (overnight temps are around 30). We need that fireplace from Aurora.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: mirth on October 13, 2006, 10:11:54 AM
prereg is closed.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 13, 2006, 11:46:56 AM
We will have two Marshall Street DVD CTPs this weekend. One on Saturday and one on Sunday. We'll probably do them both morning round only, all divisions.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: plasticfiya on October 13, 2006, 12:01:35 PM
i hope the wind dies down for this weekends play cause i tryed playin acouple holes at fairfield today and it was brutial. on my first drive on 1 the wind took my disc back to the parking lot.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: adoni on October 13, 2006, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 13, 2006, 10:11:54 AM
prereg is closed.

Mirth,

You listed me as PDGA# 12004, which is Daniel J. Conklin.  My PDGA # is 24009.

thank you,
adoni
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: mirth on October 13, 2006, 02:31:38 PM
no, that would be brett's error. I have your pdga number correct in the prereg list.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mike S on October 13, 2006, 02:32:45 PM
I think I'm probably gonna miss out on this tournament.  Ive been really sick this week, missed a few days of work and havent been myself at all.  Just starting to feel good enough to get through a day without taking half a box of cold medicine.  Thanks for a good series, see everyone next year.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 13, 2006, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: Mike S on October 13, 2006, 02:32:45 PM
I think I'm probably gonna miss out on this tournament.  Ive been really sick this week, missed a few days of work and havent been myself at all.  Just starting to feel good enough to get through a day without taking half a box of cold medicine.  Thanks for a good series, see everyone next year.

I hear ya there. I've missed two days of work this week with a bad cold. My back is also acting up so I'm back on the Norco and Valium--I am so out of it I don't even know where "it" is. I am very big on trying not to spread colds, so I won't be shaking anyone's hand this weekend. At home I wash my hands after everytime I sneeze or blow my nose while I'm using the computer or any other "community" property. Becky will be doing my TD duties on Saturday while I sleep in the van (I've been training her this year on how to do everything that I do just in case).

I hope you continue to feel better Mike.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 14, 2006, 02:10:23 PM
First round scores from today are up.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5694&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mitch on October 14, 2006, 05:24:27 PM
Any Aces Saturday?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Tom McManus on October 14, 2006, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: Mitch on October 14, 2006, 05:24:27 PM
Any Aces Saturday?

Yes.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Mitch on October 14, 2006, 05:38:12 PM
Which hole did you ace?
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 14, 2006, 05:48:40 PM
All scores for Saturday are up.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5694&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

Neal Swanson hit #14 and Chris Jordan hit #7
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: plasticfiya on October 15, 2006, 09:54:22 AM
i hope it went well today i wish i could have been there but i dislocated my thumb working on my buddys demo car in lake geneva on saturday  :angry: i guess now i will have to wait till next year to play in the ISO's at least my pre register money went to something good.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tjdub42 on October 15, 2006, 05:17:03 PM
Somehow, Tom McManus didn't get his bag tag.  If you received bag tag #18 on Sunday at Fairfield, please let me or Tom know and let's get it back to him!

Thanks to all things Brakel and everyone else involved in the IOS events for another great year.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Tom McManus on October 15, 2006, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: tjdub42 on October 15, 2006, 05:17:03 PM
Somehow, Tom McManus didn't get his bag tag.  If you received bag tag #18 on Sunday at Fairfield, please let me or Tom know and let's get it back to him!

Thanks to all things Brakel and everyone else involved in the IOS events for another great year.


Thanks Tyler. Bryan Schumann was nice enough to trade me #18 for #111.  It was very, very generous of him.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 15, 2006, 06:12:41 PM
I didn't post that they were up, but results were up at pdga.com about 5 minutes before awards or about 5 minutes after the last card came in.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5693&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Cannon Boy on October 15, 2006, 06:48:48 PM
Thanks Jon, Bruce, Brett, Becky, and anyone else who helped with this years IOS series.  Also a thanks to Dr. Dye who made some sweet overall trophies, wish I won one but switching divisions halfway through made things difficult.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: mirth on October 15, 2006, 08:57:32 PM
heh. oops, I forgot to collect my tag today....
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Tom McManus on October 16, 2006, 01:21:43 AM
Today was great getting to play with some of the younger guys. In the Oct/Nov issue of DG Magazine Dave Feldberg says, "I just wanted to see the disc fly on its many angles."  For me, that is the most fun, watching guys grip it and rip it. Especially on somewhat windy days like today and yesterday; once in a while the disc looks like it is on a string and it gets pulled straight up or down. There are some monster arms and it so much fun to watch the flight of the disc.

We are all lucky to have guys like Brett and Bruce and Mirth put these tournaments together.  They work hard to make everything come together in the manner that it does.  From getting the dates up early, being able to preregister, getting out on the course early and setting up alternate holes,  having enough merchandise on hand, and giving people the opportunity to actually go home with something that they want.

The player packs are the best, not to slight any other tourney, because they are all great in their own way, but I don't need another tee-shirt, mini, key chain, bottle opener, cork screw, water bottle, towel, or sticker. But if I do need one of those items, Bruce has it for sale.

Small things everyone can do to make tourneys better:

1. Preregister, it is tough for TDs to get the right amount of merchandise if they don't know how many players they are going to have. show up.
2. Get to the course early and sign in. It helps the TD set up groupings.
3. Leave the course cleaner than when you first arrived.
4. Frequent the sponsors of the tourney. 
5. Give the other players the respect that you would like during awards ceremonies and during the round.
6. If you are going to criticize the tourney, try and do it through email in a positive manner, after the tourney is over and you have a had chance to think about what you want to say.  These guys work very hard to the enjoyment of many.  They deserve a great deal of credit and respect for bringing everyone out and together.
7. Volunteer.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: tjdub42 on October 16, 2006, 06:27:01 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on October 15, 2006, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: tjdub42 on October 15, 2006, 05:17:03 PM
Somehow, Tom McManus didn't get his bag tag.  If you received bag tag #18 on Sunday at Fairfield, please let me or Tom know and let's get it back to him!

Thanks to all things Brakel and everyone else involved in the IOS events for another great year.


Thanks Tyler. Bryan Schumann was nice enough to trade me #18 for #111.  It was very, very generous of him.

I agree, very generous, thanks Bryan.  All right, Bryan should have gotten tag #16.  Who's got it?

#111 should have gone to someone who played only the first round and then left.

Mirth, your name was not on the list of people who turned in their bag tags.  If you turned it in, did you have tag #66?  I think that tag was left over.  I don't know what happened to it.

Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: mirth on October 16, 2006, 07:29:07 AM
my name was certainly on the list. believe I turned in 56 (the super wrinkly one) that morning.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: Dan Michler on October 16, 2006, 08:03:46 AM
I remember giving Adrian 15, then Schumann 18.  they had the 2 best scores.  There was no Tag 16 at the table so that might be part of the problem here.  Tag 66 was not in Tyler's spreadsheet, so we dont' know who handed it in.  At the end, Tom did not have a tag so he took the only 1 remaining, Tag 111.  If Mirth also did not have a tag, then somebody took one who did not hand one in.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: mirth on October 16, 2006, 08:20:06 AM
ah well. I believe I have a spare tag#100 at home... ;)
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: DougEDawg on October 16, 2006, 09:38:05 AM
I took #66 that I forgot from Saturday.  At that time, there was an extra tag, so they gave it to me.  I will trade it for #100....not a big deal to me.
Title: Re: IOS #7 @ Fairfield
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 16, 2006, 09:40:32 AM
I have the extra tags in the car. I will give someone mine. I think I have a single digit after Fairfield but i'm not sure. I'll take 1?? and stick it with someone else ;D.