This is an event from Lazer 103 in Milwaukee. Most people know about the Bob and Brian Open with ball golf. Fish is the afternoon guy on Lazer during the week. It will sell out quick come August 13th, so they are letting the disc golf community sign up before the rest of the world. The contact to save a spot and sign up is Terry Miller his e-mail Terry@prodiscgolfer.com
Here is the info, should be a fun one..
Hey, It's Exercise.... Kind of.
Click Here To Register Starting August 13th!
Now that Fish has been at LAZER a while he wanted to have an event where his listener could get together and have a good time. After throwing out several ideas (mostly because they would have resulted in lawsuits, jail time and quite possibly the end of civilization as we know it), the Fish Fly Open was born. Then our Sales staff heard about it and The Torque Center Fish Fly Open was born.
On Saturday, September 13 at Dretzka Park Fish invites disc-golfers from around the land to throw down. No matter if you're hard core or a newbie, all are welcome.
Never played disc golf before? No biggie, a "Course Pro" will accompany first-time
foursomes, offering tips and techniques to enhance the experience. There
will also be loads of prizes, the Beat Your Fish hole - where you can beat Fish and win prizes, and event swag along with instructions and freestyle demonstrations from the area's top disc golfers.
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The Basics Of The Fish Fly Open
What? The Torque Center Fish Fly Open
Disc Golf Tournament
When? Saturday, September 13, 2003
AM wave, PM wave
What do I get for my hard-earned money? $35 per player ($140 for a foursome)
includes lunch, free beer, players package including 2 discs
Event Schedule
(times approximate and subject to change):
Morning wave
8:30am - 9:15am Check-in
9:15am - 9:45am Orientation, instruction
10:00am Tee Off - Shotgun
12:00pm Lunch for ALL participants
Add'l games & deoms
1:15pm Awards & prizes
Afternoon wave
12:00pm - 1:15pm Check-in, then Lunch
1:15pm - 1:45pm Orientation, instruction
2:00pm Tee Off - Shotgun
4:00pm Add'l games & demos
4:15pm Awards & prizes
So how do I register?: CLICK HERE TO REGISTER YOUR FOURSOME!
STARTING AUGUST 13TH
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Need a disc or other gear, The Torque Center will have it at the Fish Fly
A photo of your group is included in your signup package (having Fish in it is optional)
Premier Cigar
When you need a good smoke, they'll be there for you
Starship
Get some ink done or get a piercing at the Fish Fly
A portion of the proceeds will go to Bob and Brian's 2004 Leukemia Radiothon
I may come out to play Parkside regardless of what time the safari is but I know for certain that I won't be making it up for the Fish Open.
That being said, life is all about choices... When the 2003 safari calendar was set up it was done in such a way that everyone was able to choose which events they wanted to play. With the safari series now past the make-or-break seven events some people have the luxury of not 'needing' to make any specific event in order to be in the running for the big prize.
If the time's moved earlier then the club risks some people not playing because of having to be at Parkside so early that morning in addition to folks who want to play the morning round of the Fish.
If the time's kept where its currently scheduled then the club risks people not playing because they will be at the Fish, regardless of if they're only playing the morning or afternoon round or both.
Sounds kinda rock & hard place to me...
I for one am bowing out of the Safari race anyhow so I suppose my view is fairly impartial.
An all-day safari for you != all-day for someone else...
You're right though... different debate for another day (which I agree with, in principle).
QuoteJOsh (08-06-2003 04:33 p.m.):
Fine. Understood. I might not even play the stinking Fish open
Josh, you're not getting bitter are you?
I'll check to see if I'm spoken for. One week before the Blast, you know!
Sounds like fun! But if I go, I'll be getting a phat tat, baby!
I'd like to second the motion to switch Safari time so that folks could attend both if they want.
I know that's a little early for some people, but that's another choice to be made.
Both.
There are 9 in the upper division & 7 in the lower division that can still make 7 events. The same prizes will be paid out. 2 baskets & a ton of discs. I'll be attending the Safari.
I will not be playing both. We haven't made any changes for the 1st 7 Safari Events & I think we should keep it the same for the last 5. These have been scheduled since Dec of 2002.
Safari still happening? Is it the same 5 people? Whatever... be one of the people who will say, "I should have went to that event and got my nipples pierced."
This is a new event that is most likely going to be the funnest wild wierd event of the year...screw safari, just about everyone else has. Has the payout changed or is everyone still playing for the BIG prize?
Yes, I am harsh. I always feel inclined to say what I feel, I guess that is why I am called an asshole once in a while....go figure. Sorry, didn't know the numbers of attendance, just guessed by who posts about it. If anyone could not figure it out, yes, I am still pissed about the Token Creek safari not being changed. Really guys, there was 3 area events going on that day and you would not budge on not changing the date or location.
This is not the forum for this chat. Blast me some where else....I knew Jon would be the first too on my last post..he's funny.
"The Flying Fish Open will Rock....Dudes"
I'm one of the guys that has 0 chance of winning anything in the Safari because I haven't/can't make seven events. I would be willing to play the Fish Fly if anyone else is going.
I'm game, anyone else want to join and make a 4-some?
Ohh yeah Safari, opps never mind....
Sorry Damon, but ya haven't one yet!
As much as I would like to make it to the Fish I agree with Brett. Its been posted this way since the beginning, leave it that way for the end.
QuoteJOsh (08-06-2003 03:09 p.m.):
I want to be able to play both. It seems like a bad idea to not switch times. You are forcing people to make a choice to where you might lose some people playing instead of making sure you get everyone. If I'm not mistaken, and there's a good chance I am, the argument about switching the Safari was regarding the date not the time. Yeah 8:30 is early but no earlier than most tournaments, if you ask me, I think 1pm is WAY too late for the Safaris. It takes up the entire day for some of us. I'd rather have it earlier as a norm, but that's another topic for another time. Just giving my .02 and usually I get change back :-)
True we would be forcing people to choose, but when we didn't switch the date of the Safari in the past we were forcing people to choose as well. Time or date its the same thing, changing one event to accomodate another. If people are unhappy with how late in the afternoon a event occurs then its start time should be reconsidered for the next series.
QuoteThose who are planning on playing the Safari have already set the day aside as a day for disc golf.
Not exactly, Safari doesn't take up the whole day.
QuoteThat means making plans around it with family, friends, spouses, significant others, etc. If we just move it up earlier the other people involved are already expecting you to be gone that day. It's not like anyone would have to re-arrange thier life for it.
So if my family or anyone elses expects me to be gone in the afternoon, so they plan to do their stuff then and leave their mornings free to spend time with me, how would that not cause them to re-arrange their life around it?
Fact is, this wouldn't be a problem for some people, for others it would. Personally I would like to play both and I don't know if it would be a problem for me or not, but fact is it we have said it was going to start in the afternoon and thats what people have been planning it around, to change it now I don't think is fair to people that can't change plans on a whim.
I agree. If possible I'd love to make it to both. I think it would be a fun day plus after playing UWP I wouldn't need a warm up round before playing horribly at Dretzka like I usually do :-)
I want to be able to play both. It seems like a bad idea to not switch times. You are forcing people to make a choice to where you might lose some people playing instead of making sure you get everyone. If I'm not mistaken, and there's a good chance I am, the argument about switching the Safari was regarding the date not the time. Yeah 8:30 is early but no earlier than most tournaments, if you ask me, I think 1pm is WAY too late for the Safaris. It takes up the entire day for some of us. I'd rather have it earlier as a norm, but that's another topic for another time. Just giving my .02 and usually I get change back :-)
QuoteMyndCraft
True we would be forcing people to choose, but when we didn't switch the date of the Safari in the past we were forcing people to choose as well. Time or date its the same thing, changing one event to accomodate another. If people are unhappy with how late in the afternoon a event occurs then its start time should be reconsidered for the next series.
I agree about discussing the start time for next year's safari at a later time. I do, however, see a huge difference in switching dates vs. switching times. Those who are planning on playing the Safari have already set the day aside as a day for disc golf. That means making plans around it with family, friends, spouses, significant others, etc. If we just move it up earlier the other people involved are already expecting you to be gone that day. It's not like anyone would have to re-arrange thier life for it. Moving it to another day would screw me up a lot, moving the time wouldn't. And I don't care if that means it's in Rockford or Kenosha. The powers that be will ultimately make the decision so I might as well shut up, I'm just telling you that I would like to play both and there is a way to do it and make everyone who wants to play, happy. I guess I just don't see what harm would come of it. But maybe I'm just blind.
Damon-the IO has registraton from 8-9AM.
And the Morning wave doesn't even have the awards until 1:15.
Another suggestion-What if we did two groups. One morning group for those who want to play the Fish and one Afternoon group for those who don't. Someone from the morning group could call someone from the afternoon group with the scores and go from there.
I've only been able to play in 4 Safari events so far this year but every one of them has been pretty much an all day thing. If you incorporate travel time and playing time plus some time for a warm up round or a part of one at least, and if I am driving an hour and half or more for some of these events, I'd ilke to get more than one round in instead of wasting 3 hours of driving time for 2 hours of playing time. I guess I'm just one of those people who feel that an event at 1pm is right in the middle of the day and it's tough to plan anything else before or after that due to the unknown end time of the safari. BUT like I said that is another topic for another day(or at least another thread)
What about possibly splitting up into two groups? Any ideas on that. I mean it's clear we are not moving the Safari time because some people have conflicts. Fine. Understood. I might not even play the stinking Fish open but I would like the opportunity if I do, so two groups would be a temp solution to the problem, I would think.
Quotemirth (08-06-2003 04:38 p.m.):
Josh, you're not getting bitter are you?
I just hear the club complain that not enough members are showing up to club events and we are often going to have different events that aren't planned over a year in advance, like the safari is, pop up so I don't understand really why the club wouldn't want to make it a possibility to get as many people at UWP as possible. (Man that is one LONG run-on sentence!) I just feel that there can be a little flexability. if it means that 4 or 5 people(and I'm just pulling that number from the sky as an example) don't show up to UWP for the safari, everyone loses. I guess I'm a little more attached to this one because it is at UWP. If it were at Joliet that weekend, I might just skip the Safari all together and head to Milwaukee but since it is right here, I'd like to do both. I'm kinda biased because it is my home course and I think both events could be a lot of fun and to miss out on either one would be a shame. And that is IF I even play the Fish. I might just decide that I don't feel like shelling out the cash, but it's not just me interested in playing.
QuoteDamon (08-06-2003 04:37 p.m.):
Registration, not tee-off.
The fact is it's still early. Whether it be tee off at 9 or 10, it's still early and people make exceptions for tournies, that's all I'm saying. And really nobody ever really said that we had to have it at 8:30 I'm sure we'd have enough time if we teed-off at 9:30-10:00.
QuoteShawn (08-05-2003 10:26 p.m.):
Safari still happening? Is it the same 5 people? Whatever... be one of the people who will say, "I should have went to that event and got my nipples pierced."
This is a new event that is most likely going to be the funnest wild wierd event of the year...screw safari, just about everyone else has. Has the payout changed or is everyone still playing for the BIG prize?
That seems overly harsh Shawn. A lot of us are having fun playing the Safari. If the Safari isn't your kind of fun, that's fine, but doesn't seem like you need to slam those of us that are having fun with it.
Before we change the time let's get a show of hands of people who will be playing both. If anyone is, then lets consider it, but if people who are going to play the fish thing aren't going to the Safari no matter what time it is, then there's no reason to change it.
Since we don't have a concensus either way, I'd say we should keep the time the same. I have a conflict with that morning, so from a personal side I'd like to keep the time the same.
As for the Safari in general, I think the Safari was designed to be an all day event. Some of them are scheduled at courses that are 1 to 3 hours away. If we start at 1pm, then not only do you have time to get up there, but you have time to play a practice round and time at the end to play some more or check out another course. But we can discuss it for next year.
I don't like the idea of splitting into different groups. The people I play against should have to play in the same conditions as I do. A really early round is likely to have much less wind.
QuoteMyndCraft (08-05-2003 08:25 p.m.):
I'm game, anyone else want to join and make a 4-some?
I heard about this, but 2 problems:
1. I might be working
2. Safari that day (but Jay and Steve, go ahead!! ;)
QuoteJon Brakel (08-05-2003 10:33 p.m.):
QuoteShawn (08-05-2003 10:26 p.m.):
Safari still happening? Is it the same 5 people? Whatever... be one of the people who will say, "I should have went to that event and got my nipples pierced."
This is a new event that is most likely going to be the funnest wild wierd event of the year...screw safari, just about everyone else has. Has the payout changed or is everyone still playing for the BIG prize?
That seems overly harsh Shawn. A lot of us are having fun playing the Safari. If the Safari isn't your kind of fun, that's fine, but doesn't seem like you need to slam those of us that are having fun with it.
well. I'm still playing for the big prize...my pvc Dr. Fred basket is getting pretty beat up...
a-sing along with me now...
Seems like there were heated discussions a few weeks/months ago about not messing with the Safari schedule, e.g. "there will always be conflicts", etc. etc. and the majority of posts were all for leaving the schedule and locations alone.
I'm not sure I can make it to Parkside that day anyhow, but 8:30 is not early only if you live within 20 minutes of the course.
Not everyone wants to play the Fish Open. If the Safari wasn't to be rescheduled before, why now?
...and now that I've read some of the posts in the last hour or so, in response to the survey: Safari, if anything...
QuoteJOsh (08-06-2003 03:09 p.m.):
I want to be able to play both. It seems like a bad idea to not switch times. You are forcing people to make a choice to where you might lose some people playing instead of making sure you get everyone. If I'm not mistaken, and there's a good chance I am, the argument about switching the Safari was regarding the date not the time. Yeah 8:30 is early but no earlier than most tournaments
but you're forcing a different choice on those who may not be able to hit an 8:30 start (some of us have a long way to go). And name any other tournament where you've started at 8:30 ;)
Part of the logic was moving the Safari early so 'everyone' could go to the afternoon Wave or whatever it is. Why not just go to the *Morning* Wave and come down for the Safari in the afternoon? It seems just as feasible either way to me.
QuoteJOsh (08-06-2003 03:59 p.m.):
Damon-the IO has registraton from 8-9AM.
Registration, not tee-off.
Perhaps if we moved the Safari to 8:30AM at Parkside we could all head up for the Afternoon Wave of The Torque Center Fish Fly Open?
Just a thought.
Before anyone flames me, hear me out.
[thread drift]
If we don't move it, people competing in the Safari will still need to make a choice and will be disappointed if they go to one event but not the other. But that is their choice. If the start time is moved (with, what, 6 weeks advance notice?), they can play both if they want to go to the Frog Open Afternoon Wave. And, if we don't move the time, we are going to be competing with casual players in the area and possibly players from Dretzka who aren't willing to pay $35 to play the Fish Open. Anyway, like I said, it's just a thought. [/thread drift]