This info is preliminary:
DISContinuum presents
a Sun King Discs sponsored
PDGA C-Tier Disc Golf Tournament
and non-sanctioned Ace Race
THE 2003 BEVIER BLAST & ACE RACE
Saturday, September 20th
Henry Pfau Callahan DCG, Bevier Park, Waukegan, IL
Divisions / Entry Fees / Payouts:
Pro - $42 - cash
Advanced Amateur - $32 - premium prizes
Intermediate Amateur - $22 - premium prizes
Recreational Amateur - $15 - premium prizes
Junior (17 & under) - $12 - premium prizes
*we will open more divisions as space allows
**minimum 3 players per division
Sun King Discs is adding at least $200 added cash to total purse!
All players receive a Players' Package:
a custom-embroidered Sun King disc golf towel
All players play 3 rounds of 12 Holes!
Field is limited to 60 players!!! Pre-register early!!! Don't be left out!!!
On-site Registration: 7:30am - 8:45am
Mandatory Players' Meeting: 9:30am
Tee-Off Round 1: 10am
Tee-off Round 2: 12:30pm
Tee-off Round 3: 3pm
Awards: 5pm
ACE RACE
$5 Entry Fee
Upper and Lower Pool divisions
Prizes: cash and premium prizes
12 Holes - Each player gets 2 drives per hole ONLY
Points: 5 points for each ace / 3 points for hitting metal
Approximate start time: 5:30
Ace Race Awards: 6:30
We are trying to provide a FREE LUNCH for all players, stay tuned......
Flyers should be done soon........
The BLAST is not yet sanctioned; PDGA approval pending
COME ON OUT AND HAVE SOME BIG FUN AT BEVIER!
Try out our 3 new holes (Hole B nearing completion)!
Nice picture, but did ya really have to make me look like an axe murderer?
Typo -
Quote
Three new holes have been added this year by the Discontinuum
QuoteDR DYE (08-14-2003 08:49 a.m.):
Will the axe murderer iin the picture be there???
I am scared!
I think so, however said axe murderer isn't planning on competing, rather being the 3rd (yet unnamed) volunteer.
I think right now you two would be playing for 1st & 2nd in the division. I'd guess that field would grow by at least 3 more by the time the tourney comes.
whats with you and tuna, jay?
Ah Bruce....
I have some 24" stakes left from a recent garage sale...
It's not a mistake... I had no clue what division to put you guys under, you just said 'Brett preregistered on blah-de-blah date' 'Damon registered on blah-de-blah date'.
Now that I know.... I'll try to get it fixed tomorrow.
Weird, I can get to PDGA.com fine....
QuoteJon Brakel (09-09-2003 09:26 a.m.):
Is the pre-reg page going to get updated and corrected soon?
Yeah, if I can ever get out of the burning inferno that surrounds my desk....
in the meantime, why not start a thread so there's a reminder for myself and the other webmasters that this needs to get done.
Premium prizes will range from dyed discs, custom discs, towels, Orbies, minis, much more! Nothing cheap. This will be just like every DIScontinuum event: nuthin' but quality, baby!
Some Gateway discs will prob be in the mix.
doofus.
:p
Here's the flyer. We may need to make some changes, but we hope not. Please post a copy of this flyer at all local courses ASAP!
Jay, can you please set up the Online Pre-Registration page this week?
THANKS for the help!
Thanks for the proofreading! I'll make changes and re-post it tomorrow, if Jay will be kind enough to replace the incorrect version at his convenience. ;)
Thanks, Jay! Looks great!
Does anyone think that we might achieve 100% pre-registration for this one? Only 60 slots!
And Mirth, I thought I made you look BETTER!
:)
Thanks, that was cool Shawn.
We approximated the times and were generous. I think each round of 12 will take no more than an hour and fifteen minutes.
With two people checking scores and one person entering them into the laptop and printing them, the downtime should be limited to 20 minutes after the last group comes in. A quick CTP announcement, then start 'em off again.
I'm hoping the Ace Race will have an actual start time of 5pm.
Here's the corrected flyer (PDF format).
Please post them everywhere! Thank you!
WOW, that was fast!
Thanks Jay!
Thanks Pat!
Thaks also to Axe Murderer for being our second assistant TD.
That is, unless he wants to play.
;p
Another Happy Dance, Xander?
I think that Danny, Billy, Adrian Jr, and perhaps three other Jrs will be there.
If there's enough, we'll break into Jrs (13-17) and Jrs (12 and under). We'll see how many show up (or pre-register).
Everyone over the age of 6 must play PRO or Jay will kick your butt.
Jay, can you please add Barry Gilbert to the Men's Open division? He paid cash. THANKS!
I have secured a photographer for the Blast. John Bates (not Kirsten's uncle who made the CDs) will be doing it for a small fee (perhaps paid in plastic). We pay for film and developing. We are setting this up as a professional deal. Myk, read your pm please.
Cool!
Thanks, Brett! That's the first I heard of it. PDGA did not contact me.
Mirth/Jay, can you please webify the status?
THANKS!
WPD has officially nixed the moving of Basket #9. Why? Because their map/legend at Tee #1 would then be wrong. They see that as a priority over safety (not usual for WPD).
I will work on it more, with help from other members.
In the meantime, for the Blast, we will rope off an area between Basket #9 and the soccer field, just in case casual soccer players gather there. But I am expecting no conflicts.
As TDs, the charming and personable Messers Klem and Deardorf shall take care of all things disgruntling. We shall have a letter (oooh, a missive) from the right honorable deity, the "Trigg" which shall wipe away all soccer conflicts.
BTW, who speaks Spanish.....?????
Yes, a temp will be on hand just in case. Should be fine.
All players ARE welcome to try and play above their rated division. :)
I understand that Alex Bingman probably will NOT be playing the Blast, so that might open up the Pro division a little......
Brett, thanks for the tape and paint. EXCELLENT! The yellow marker rope for Basket 9 area are appreciated.
Also, I cannot find the document with the re-measured distances for all the holes. Can you please get me your recent results? Sorry. I'm a big dork. Also need the distances for ABC. THANKS! Please email them to me ASAP.
We will also need help from at least one person immediately after or during the awards/prizes presentation. Myk and I will be busy totalling scores and presenting awards. We need someone to set up temporary tees for the Ace Race. THANKS!
I'd like a minimum of three players in any division, even womens divisions. It sucks that there still aren't many female players, especially locally.
But I am not comfortable having a 2-woman division because the payouts will be so low that, to me, is demeaning.
Having a 1-player division is just plain silly.
So, if say Barrett White and Becky show up, I will ask Barrett to play with the Pro men and Becky to play with the Am or Adv men, whichever she wants. In this case, I would want to make sure they did receive prizes for being brave souls.
I will have to re-check the PDGA's rules and advisings about this.
Also asked BC for his input.
Cannot check the PDGA website because its been down for 2 days now, so I will check the literature when I get home.
PDGA.com was acting weird around noon; pdga mess board was down for over an hour.
As for opening up an Am Womans division, your soapbox jibberish makes sense, especially after relating Becky's story in the IO. I did not know she was a division.
Question/Scenario:
Say we do open up an Am Womens div, and only Becky shows up.
Then SallyJo shows up and asks us to open up a Pro Womens div. Do we?
What if BobbiSue then shows up and wants a Womens Rec div opened up.
Do we accommodate all as requested? I understand that their entry fees would be their payout base, so we wouldn't lose any money, but is that SOP for sanctioned-events?
Just wondering.
My goal (all of ours, I'm sure) to to accommodate all players and to attract more women players. Will doing this have any adverse effect?
It was supposed to be funny.....
:)
I will email BW and see if she's planning on coming. Heck, I'll email Juliana and Des for that matter.
Will Becky and /or other Brakel women be attending?
We just confirmed that
HYZERHURTHS.COM
will sponsor our event once again with a couple of CTPs!!! WOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOO! :)
Thanks, Josh!
you're bumped, dillhole.
justkidding :)
Myk, can you please tackle this? THANKS!
Also, ROCKENBACH CHEVY of Grayslake has become our newest club sponsor!!!! More info on their tourney-specific portion of sponsorship to come.....
MUCH THANKS TO AL FRIELLO and ROCKENBACK CHEVROLET!!!!!!!
Gimme a HUGE Wooo-hooo!
Also, Barry Gilbert has donated a new Epic for a CTP! Thanks Barry!
Also, Pat Wood will NOT be playing, but I cannot call him names because he has donated his entry fee to the club! We will add another CTP with that cash! THANKS PAT, even though we'd rather have you there to play with!
Things are really coming together!
Jonn, unless Jay set up electronic registration on auto-destruct, pre-reg is fine.
yep, I'm planning on it.
And we got ANOTHER sponsor!
My wife, Kirsten, is donating three (about $70 worth) yummy Tastefully Simple gift packs. One is a dessert box, one is a spices box, one is a sauce box. All very good stuff. We'll use 'em as CTP prizes.
Sponsors so far:
sunkingdiscs.com
Rockenback Chevy
discgofworld.com
hyzerhurths.com
Tastefully Simple
Barry Gilbert
Brett Comincioli
Pat Wood
Pizza Hut of Wkgn (pending)
drdyed.com (pending)
Thanks to EACH and EVERY person who is supporting the efforts of our club!!!
CTP UPDATE:
10 CTPs total!!!! That's a record for Bevier! Three in every round!
2 CTPs for Jrs
2 CTPs for Recs
2 CTPs for Ams
2 CTPs for Adv
2 CTPs for Pros
Yeah Yeah Yeah!!!
DrDye has confirmed sposnorship!
We will be having two (2) separate raffles.
Raffle #1 will be for several various prizes including rare autographed discs, super-premium discs (black Wasps), glow Champion stuff, license plate frames, birdie bags, Orbies, and more.
Raffle #2 will be for two (2) DrDyed discs, which are unique, supercool, and highly-prized.
THANKS JOE!
Tickets will be $2 each /or/ $5 for 3 tickets.
We'll also be having an optional 50/50 Ace Pool. $1. Good for all three rounds. Not good for the AceRace. There will be no Ace Pool for the Ace Race. There will be great prizes.
Myk, Mirth, Mike Barnett, and I are totally stoked about this tourney! We want to give everyone a fun, well-run event. Please pre-register or get to Bevier really early Saturday morning.
If you are planning on attending the BLAST, please either pre-register or email myself, Myk, or Mirth.
The recent squabbles will not interfere with the BLAST. The BLAST is one place for us to come together and have FUN - that won't change.
Why attend the BLAST this year?
New holes, baby!
The layout is smoother.
The flow will be smoother.
The prizes rock!
The players rock!
Awesome raffle prizes!
Ace Race for $5!!!
Bevier's first C-Tier ever!
Please help out the TDs and confirm your registration today! THANKS!
Flyer went up at Round Lake today.
Jim,
On the PDGA thread, you posted under PDGA Issues. You may want to change it to the 2003 Tournament Thread.
Blast is officially a C-Tier. It's on PDGA.com
You may want to add that it is $5.00 more to non PDGA members. What are you going to do with the pre-registered players that are not PDGA members?
You are correct Jon! May want to add that to this page.
http://discontinuum.org/Events/blast2003/index.html
Jon,
I think they have games every Saturday & Sunday. I would love to resume play on #9 but it's such a pain in the butt. There have been tons of people haning out by #9 basket. Also, some kid threw Bingmans firebird in the water too. I don't want that to happen.
Yeah, that is true. Maybe we should just start chucking at will at these people. Maybe them & the park district will get a clue. We did pay $400.00 for insurance :)
Diron,
In the past, the largest # that we have had at a Bevier Tournament was 69 players. Usually our tournaments have drawn 30-40 players. The sanctioning was a last minute deal & will draw more players. I have no doubt that all 60 spots will be filled. With everything that the club has done this year, it's hard for members to set aside 2 full days to run tournaments. This has been a very busy year for DISContinuum. We are starting to build up a pretty good base & are finguring what works & does not work. At our upcoming meetings we will be discussing these situations. Be patient, 2004 will be HUGE!
Jim & Myk,
I will be going out to the park tomorrow & putting on new flags & orange tape on all 12 baskets. On the 19th, i'll go out after school & put flags & paint lines for all the alternates. I have 2 cans of oragne paint left. I also have a roll of the yellow caution tape to mark off around the #9 basket. I have 1 stake as well. We'll probably need 2 or 3 more. Just figured i'd help out a little.
Predictions on scores.
Well, I went back & checked out the scores from the HPC Memorial. Pretty much the same format. 3 Rounds of 12 Holes. I can't remember what alternates we played.
Pro 94 (-14)
Adv 101 (-7)
Am 109 (+1)
Here is what i'm predicting for the Blast
Pro 95 (-13)
Advanced (-8)
Am (-3)
On the PreReg page it list me as playing Pro. I am playing in the advanced division.
Sorry for being a little late on this one but it will be dark by 7:21. Should not be a problem, hope we can get the ace race started by 6... If it runs later we should think twice about throwing it. 4rth round ironman glow 1 disc event? just kidding.
Found this info interesting.
Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Waukegan, Lake County, Illinois (longitude W87.8, latitude N42.4):
Saturday
20 September 2003 Central Daylight Time
SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:08 a.m.
Sunrise 6:36 a.m.
Sun transit 12:45 p.m.
Sunset 6:53 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:21 p.m.
MOON
Moonset 3:24 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 12:05 a.m.
Moon transit 8:11 a.m.
Moonset 4:14 p.m.
Moonrise 1:05 a.m. on following day
Phase of the Moon on 20 September: waning crescent with 32% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.
Last quarter Moon on 18 September 2003 at 2:03 p.m. Central Daylight Time.
Love it!! Although I was thinking of going with a cream background instead of the black. But it's like they say, once you go black you never go back.
In that case, you gonna play Advanced Jay? I mean, you wanna play better, don't you? :P
One more pre-reg today.
John Brakel - Int Am
Thats a shame Jim, that means no Gateway plastic :(
Hey in my eyes all Gateway plastic is premium, in Jim's eyes however, that's a different story :(
One day you all will see the light
Okay here we go....
-Index2 updated with Link
-Schedule page updated with Link
-Created a Bevier Blast & Ace Run Page
-Pre-Registration Online
-Tournament Flyer downloadable
Give it a look and tell me if any changes are needed!
Changes have been made and are online including our first pre-register, thanks to our own Pat Wood
I would love to help, but I would love to take first as well, so looks like I'm playing :D
Diron (and maybe Todd) I have seen you thrown a few throws and have seen some scores you put up. After doing this I am here to inform you I will beat you with a tuna if you play the junior division. Don't bag your a am player not a junior. You may not win, whereas you would in junior, but you will get better, by being forced to make better shots, and by watching players around you that are better, and learning from the mistakes of the worse players.
Heres a fyi btw, Steve Rico won his first pro even at the age of 16, Garret Gurthie, a Gateway sponsored player, is 14 and plays pro.
errr you meant you would be [17 right??? :D
I know your no Steve Rico, but your rating in the pdga is used to determine the lowest division you could play in. So basically play Am so I don't have to call you a bloody bagger :D
At Bevier, sure I'll play advanced why not, even though half the players in Am still play better than me anyways.
Quotemirth (08-15-2003 11:20 p.m.):
whats with you and tuna, jay?
Sorry next time I'll say trout :D
Okay smart ass, don't make me hurt you :D
Two more pre-registerd received today...
Am]Kevin Lenth and Sergio Correa
I have no life
On the registration page they are told they will have to pay $5 on the day of the event provided that the sanctioning was approved.
QuoteJim (08-27-2003 10:21 a.m.):
WPD has officially nixed the moving of Basket #9. Why? Because their map/legend at Tee #1 would then be wrong. They see that as a priority over safety (not usual for WPD).
I will work on it more, with help from other members.
In the meantime, for the Blast, we will rope off an area between Basket #9 and the soccer field, just in case casual soccer players gather there. But I am expecting no conflicts.
If there isn't a problem with soccer according to the PD, then I think we should resume playing hole nine for all leagues and events.
QuoteDiron (08-27-2003 10:48 a.m.):
Is this PDGA sanctioned? Can Kevin Lenth shoot Am?
I don't think Kevin has a PDGA rating yet, so there's nothing stopping him from playing Intermediate Am.
QuoteCE-Valkyrie (08-27-2003 11:07 a.m.):
Jon,
I think they have games every Saturday & Sunday. I would love to resume play on #9 but it's such a pain in the butt. There have been tons of people haning out by #9 basket. Also, some kid threw Bingmans firebird in the water too. I don't want that to happen.
But there's no problem with keeping the basket where it is according to the PD. Hit some kid in the head? NO PROBLEM! Knock some fisherman into the pond? NO PROBLEM! Some kid throws Bingman's disc into the pond? NO PROBLEM!
(okay, I MIGHT be a little bit disgruntled)
LOL
QuoteBC (09-07-2003 04:48 p.m.):
One more pre-reg today.
John Brakel - Int Am
But feel free to use MY name. :)
Becky was going to register in the next day or two, but the flyer and on-line info price list does not specify what divisions you are running for women. It just specifies the prices for jr, rec, int, adv, etc.
What am women's divisions are being offered?
Maybe I answered my own question. Each registration option has a "women" option. So all women's divisions are available, apparently.
In that case, which division(s) will you have a trophy/plaque for? Or aren't you doing trophies/plaques? I can't remember. I'm assuming you will run a minimum of one Am Women's division even if you don't get 3 registered, would that be correct (as long as you get at least one, of course)?
[standing up on soap box]
You don't have to run a division if you advertised that you wouldn't run it, or if you don't get 3 people attending. I run at least one am women's division no matter what to reward the woman or women who do show up. This at least builds the start of a player base. Becky wouldn't be competitive in Adv or Int. She might be competitive in Rec depending on how many truly rec players there are. Her rating would allow her to play in any non-age protected division.
Women know that Gary will run at least one women's am division at all of his tournaments, so they know they can show up and play. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't.
The problem with not running women's divisions at all is that then whatever women or woman you had, probably won't show up next time. Payouts are not demeaning as long as they are based on the pay-in. Becky won a trophy and two discs at the Midwest Open where she was the only Sunday woman. Becky was fine with that payout. It was close to what she had paid in.
If you want to help build a women player's base, giving them a divsion to play helps. They won't come if there isn't a division for them.
[getting off soapbox now--it was really more like a liquid detergent bottle anyway]
I can't wait for the Blast! After doing all the work we did it'll be great to play those holes in a tournament.
QuoteJim (09-08-2003 01:51 p.m.):
As for opening up an Am Womans division, your soapbox jibberish makes sense, especially after relating Becky's story in the IO. I did not know she was a division.
Question/Scenario:
Say we do open up an Am Womens div, and only Becky shows up.
Then SallyJo shows up and asks us to open up a Pro Womens div. Do we?
What if BobbiSue then shows up and wants a Womens Rec div opened up.
Do we accommodate all as requested? I understand that their entry fees would be their payout base, so we wouldn't lose any money, but is that SOP for sanctioned-events?
Just wondering.
My goal (all of ours, I'm sure) to to accommodate all players and to attract more women players. Will doing this have any adverse effect?
My soapbox jibberish made sense? That sentence was so funny I won't even try to figure out if I should be insulted. :)
Until you have enough Am women to make one division, I wouldn't think about adding another Am women division. And this is allowed and expected. As for the pro side, I'm not sure if I have a strong opinion. I ran a pro woman division for the Illinois Open for Barrett White. I would do that again if she's the only pro woman who shows up. She said she had a great time and thanked me both in person after the tournament and with a follow-up e-mail. So, I think she appreciated that I ran the divsion even though a divsion didn't show up. Unless Barrett says she is coming I think you can pretty much assume that you won't have any pro women at an Illinois c-tier event, so you don't really have to worry about that SallyJo girl. :)
Becky was fairly certain last night that she would be registering in the next two days. I don't think you'll see any other Brakel women here for it though.
Is the pre-reg page going to get updated and corrected soon?
Apparently my credit card is not compatible with paypal, whatever that means.
Jim, can you extend pre-registration one more day and let Becky register at the Safari on Saturday?
So you will be at the Safari to take pre-reg for the Blast, Jim?
Bear in mind that since it is sanctioned, all of the advanced rated players won't being playing pro.
Maybe if the Gateway discs were DR DYED just right, they may be considered premium.
Will the axe murderer iin the picture be there???
I am scared!
QuoteJim (08-12-2003 01:07 p.m.):
The BLAST is not yet sanctioned; PDGA approval pending
Since the PDGA office is closed til Aug 21st, I'm guessing this won't get confirmed until at least then...?
typo - "Tee off Round - 3pm"
QuoteJon Brakel (08-27-2003 11:19 a.m.): Some kid throws Bingman's disc into the pond? NO PROBLEM!
oh man, I hope he wasn't wearing an orange shirt....
QuoteCE-Valkyrie (09-06-2003 11:15 p.m.):
Predictions on scores.
Well, I went back & checked out the scores from the HPC Memorial. Pretty much the same format. 3 Rounds of 12 Holes. I can't remember what alternates we played.
Pro 94 (-14)
Adv 101 (-7)
Am 109 (+1)
Here is what i'm predicting for the Blast
Pro 95 (-13)
Advanced (-8)
Am (-3)
....hmph. This from an 'advanced' player who shot 97 yesterday. ;p Brett, you gonna turn pro for this one?
I'll say -15, -10, -5. Unless the weather's lousy.
I'd venture that on the whole the new holes ABC will prove slightly tougher than the ballfield alternates used for HPC. You'll see a fair # of deuces on Hole A and the shortest Hole B, several from middle B and maybe all placements of C, but it'll be interesting to see if even the pros can make long B in two throws.
there's also a mistake on the tournament pre-registered page. I'm playing intermediate, not advanced.
Quotemirth (09-08-2003 01:15 p.m.):
Weird, I can get to PDGA.com fine....
msg board was corrupted/screwy last night, entire site was down for awhile this morning, now the site's back up but msg board is 'down for maintenance'...
Sounds like it'll be a blast at bevier.. a BEVIER BLAST!!
Okay I'm done.
Premium prizes include discs, minis, stuff like that I'm assuming?
Sounds cool, can't wait!
This sounds like more and more fun everyday, can't wait!
How is the competition looking for 17&Under? Can't decide to shoot there or int am. Will you guys be making a chart for payouts?
Can't wait to pre-register!!
QuoteMyndCraft (08-15-2003 11:05 p.m.):
Don't bag your a am player not a junior. You may not win, whereas you would in junior, but you will get better, by being forced to make better shots, and by watching players around you that are better, and learning from the mistakes of the worse players.
Heres a fyi btw, Steve Rico won his first pro even at the age of 16, Garret Gurthie, a Gateway sponsored player, is 14 and plays pro.
I know, which is why there is a dilemma as to which to shoot. If I shoot am, your right, I probably won't win. But If I was to signup for the PDGA I would be 17] aka, Junior..
Also, I'm no Steve Rico :P
whatever, who cares. It sounds like alot of fun and I can't wait to play
I turn 17 October 26th, so technically I'm still a "junior". It's stupid to argue. I'll probably lose reguardless of what divison I shoot in considering the way I've been tossin' lately.. :(
Myk, I like how you think :)
This just hit me, do you guys think it may be necessary to do a two-day event?
I was unaware the field was limited to 60 players, I was just making a suggestion out of ignorance..
lol.. duck or bleed Bruce
In the meantime, for the Blast, we will rope off an area between Basket #9 and the soccer field, just in case casual soccer players gather there. But I am expecting no conflicts.
jim that makes me laugh
my 2 cents hedge your bets bring temp basket just in case
hand out/post flyers week in advance
that park will be used by disc golfers
i remember a streamwood t that we had to skip two holes
because of the pick up soccer league with 100 people milling around
two duecable holes 14 15 LOL
communication is key maybe soccer dude will think
maybe this is a day that i leave the family at home the park is
going to be crowded no parking and the such
bump
Jay/Mirth, can you please add the following to the list of pre-registered?
Matt Wozniak - Junior
Grant Wozniak - Junior
Kelsey Glabowicz - Junior
Kevin Glabowicz - Junior
Todd Kozlencer - Pro
THANKS!
QuoteJay/Mirth, can you please add the following to the list of pre-registered?
Matt Wozniak - Junior
Grant Wozniak - Junior
Kelsey Glabowicz - Junior
Kevin Glabowicz - Junior
Todd Kozlencer - Pro
THANKS!
This is done. Try to post update requests in the relevant forum next time... :)
couldn't until you fixed it. THANKS!
Now I can't find the thread, so please pardon my thread combinations.
For Blast registration, please add:
Sean Gilbert, Intermediate Amateur, paid cash, no pdga, no acerace.
Talked to Mike Trigg today. He likes the bridges. he likes Hole B. He's letting us use the big tent as well as the picnic pavilions. woo-hoo.
I received the discs/prizes from Sun King yesterday. One or two minor issues, but no biggies. Many of the prize discs are AWESOME!!! I mean truly AWESOME!!! The regular raffle will have no fewer than 11 winners!!!
We will also be vending for Sun King. Many of the discs for sale are at good prices, some very good. We'll also be selling some Innova DX plastic (Aviar X-outs, some Leopards, some Rocs) for $5 each.
Much more to say, but y'all will have to wait for the players' meeting!
Are you reserving spots for folks who say they are coming but didn't get in on Pay Pal, like at the Illinois Open?
Quotecouldn't until you fixed it. THANKS!
Now I can't find the thread, so please pardon my thread combinations.
You're pardoned, but you could just make a new thread in the Website Issues topic like we have been doing in the past. After all, that's why it is there.
As far as Barry's reg. and updating the site is concerned, we're not keeping track of that stuff on the club site... Just a running total of who is in what division.
Weather looks good for tomorrow. Sunny around 70. Wind Under 10MPH all day.
:D I'm on vacation and I can't wait to begin my 9 day :lol: (maybe up to 12 days) disc golf adventure, beginning with a blast at the Blast! The weather is looking good! :D
QuoteAre you reserving spots for folks who say they are coming but didn't get in on Pay Pal, like at the Illinois Open?
I'm almost positive that this did not happen at the Illinois Open. We only held spots for people that pre-registered at the IO, and we will be doing the same in this case. If you didn't get a chance to pre-register, you can come to Bevier and register at the course. Registration for the event begins at 7:30 in the morning. I would suggest getting there early, as we are planning for a full field. Good Luck, and Happy Discing.
QuoteIf you are planning on attending the BLAST, please either pre-register or email myself, Myk, or Mirth.
Please help out the TDs and confirm your registration today! THANKS!
Jim, Paul's insulation project just got postponed at the last minute, so he will be attending the Blast. We should be there about 7ish.
Good luck to everyone on Saturday!
Except Jay, maybe... B)
What's for lunch at the Blast?
QuoteWe will also be vending for Sun King. Many of the discs for sale are at good prices, some very good. We'll also be selling some Innova DX plastic (Aviar X-outs, some Leopards, some Rocs) for $5 each.
:D "We will also be vending for Sun King. Many of the discs for sale are at good prices, some very good. We'll also be selling some Innova DX plastic (Aviar X-outs, some Leopards, some Rocs) for $5 each."
Please please please buy me TWO DX firebirds. One at 170(ish) and one at max weight. Also, Kyle would like a DX eagle at about 168, no heavier than 170. Colors for any of the DX do not matter, though I would prefer bright colors, orange, day-glo yellow, whatever. Jim or whoever, I will pay you back right away.
Jim, I also found one of your Talons at hole #9 tonight. I will try to get down there to get it back to you, but it doesn't look good. Unfortunately, I will not be able to play the Blast.
Thanks guys! If someone could do this for me, I would really, really appreciate it!
Steve, I believe we have one or two Firebirds. We had none until Kurt from Tourist donated a few. I'll rummage through the boxes and grab what I can. THANKS!
THE 2003 BEVIER BLAST IS HISTORY
Thanks to all our sponsors:
sunkingdiscs.com
discgolfworld.com
Rockenbach Chevorlet
Pizza Hut of Waukegan
Tourist Disc Golf Gear
hyzerhurths.com
drdyed.com
Kirsten Klem's Tastefully Simple
Waukegan Park District
the Callahan family
Brett Comincioli
Barry Gilbert
Pat Wood
Thanks to all who played - and congrats to all who won! I hope you enjoyed the tournament and Ace Race! I appreciate that many players drove from pretty far away to make this event and that you found the tourney worth the trip. Thanks to the Juniors and all who support them. The kids are the future of this sport - let's keep teaching them the right things!
THANKS to Myk Deardorf and Al Short for their great first-time assistant TD roles! Their dedication, hard work, and quick thinking were invaluable to the event. Plus, they're just plain FUN! THANKS also to John Bates for being a great photographer! He donated his time, film, and developing for the event once again! We may put together another (bigger, better) CD of the event. We'll see what we have to work with after film is developed.
THANKS to all the people who came out to Bevier these past several months and have helped to make our course so much better! All the volunteer sweat and money has truly changed to course for the better! I've had more fun working at Bevier this year than I have had playing. It means so much when people give back to the sport. DISContinuum members and friends continue to impress and have make me proud to be a part of our group!
There were some mistakes made at the event. EVERY event has some. I regret that some double-checking was overlooked and that some people were slighted. In fact, I am pretty concerned about it and will look to rectify this one situation in mind. as TD, I assume full responsibility for this one grouping mistake. However, there were two other small situations which were handled quickly, properly, and smoothly by the staff. These could have been daunting issues, but Myk and Mirth were on top of things and overcame potential ickiness.
The Ace Race was a lot of FUN! But after all the verbal and emailed complaints, I now know much more about running an Ace Race, or even two events in one day. We received many good suggestions and appreciate the input.
Scores will be checked and sent to the webmasters for posting later today. I hope. THANKS AGAIN everyone!
I had a ton of fun at the Blast & Ace Race. What great weather for disc golf. It doesn't get much better than it was yestarday. Thanks Jim, Myk, & Mirth for all the work you did to make this event happen.
I hope players keep in mind that DISContinuum is going thru a transition from a very small club & events to some medium to large club & events. It is trial & error. DISContinuum tries to offer a variety of events that are not the norm in other areas. I hope you continue to come back & support our events. We would like your opinions of what you liked & disliked. This will help us grow.
Thanks again guys!!!
:) I had a great time at the Blast! Next year I hope to have a larger women's division!
goodness me, i totally forgot to thank a very important dOoD:
Jay Neirodzik. He busted his butt for about 6 hours making our new club banner. which ROCKS by the way! Thanks Jay. I know you do not have much time lately and it means a lot that you got this long-overdue project done so fast. THANKS!
Blast Stats
Total Attendance: 46
Juniors -5
Recs - 6
Int Amateurs - 17
Advanced Am - 8
Advanced Am Female -1
Open - 9
Payout was at a solid 117% ($1147.00).
Ace Pool ($29) was split between Chris Heeren and Kerry Fuston! Nice, guys!
Raffle Winners: Shawn Fallon.
Oh Yeah, many others as well. :)
DrDye Raffle Winners: Myk Deardorf & Paul Christensen
Photographer: John Bates of the Bates Motel Photography STUDio
Scores (by Division, in descending order)
Pro
1. Chris Heeren - 84
2. Terry Miller - 94
3. Kurt Raff - 95
4. Todd Kozlencer - 96
5. Jon VanDeurzen - 100
6. Tim Davis - 102
7. Tom Schodtler - 107
8. Paul Kuffel - 114
9. Barry Gilbert - 118
Advanced Amateur
1. Shawn Fallon - 101
2. Bruce Brakel -103
3. Brett Comincioli - 103
4. Kevin Smart - 106
5. Nathan Baron - 108
6. Dan Michler - 110
7. William Conover - DNF
8. Adrian Gutierrez Sr. - DNF
Advanced Amateur Female
1. Becky Brakel - 144
Intermediate Amateur
1. Kerry Fuston - 105
2. Shawn Comstock - 108
3. Sergio Correa - 108
4. Jeff Simunic - 108
5. Jon Brakel - 109
6. Mike Kutella - 109
7. Damon Short - 110
8. Jay Neirodzik - 111
9. John Jordan - 113
10. Darryl Hoffman - 125
11. Bobby Liang - 127
12. Max Robbins - 129
13. Colin Roper - 132
14. Kent Hengels - 136
15. Sean Gilbert - 137
16. Matt Stagl - 137
17. Kevin Lenth - 190
Recreational
1. Jon Bornoski - 108
2. Paul Christensen - 119
3. Mick Cullen - 127
4. Matthew Cullen - 138
5. Michael Cullen - 143
6. Ryan Walters - 162
Junior
1. Adrian Gutierrez - 115
2. Todd Fanning - 124
3. Danny Wheeler - 146
4. Matt Wozniak - 153
5. Grant Wozniak - 213
CTP Winners
Juniors - Matt Wozniak &Danny Wheeler
Recreational - Jon Bornoski & ?
Intermediate Amateurs - Colin Roper & ?
Advanced Amateurs - Sissy Pants Brakel & Mr. Knickers Brakel
Pros - Chris Heeren & his evil twin
More stats to come after some sleeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppp
I thought the tournament ran very smoothly. The correct distances on the scorecards and the bulletin were a very nice touch. Having all the alternates flagged and painted was great. There were a couple of learning curve items but this was their first sanctioned tournament, and cat piss happens sometimes!
Jim, before you submit your TD report, if you submit it as three rounds of 12 holes no one will get ratings off the event. But Chuck Kennedy says that you can submit it as two rounds of 18, even though we played 3 of 12, and then we'll get ratings. Chuck says that the PDGA is fine with this.
To do this, simply take the middle round, divide it by two, and add each half to the other round.
For example, if Duff Burger shot 37 / 36 / 35 for a 108
that would become 55 / 53 for a 108.
If the middle number is odd, put the odd stroke on the higher end.
For example, if Duff Burger shot 38 / 37 / 35 for a 110
that would become 57 / 53 for a 110.
Under the course information section of the report you will need to take the distance for holes 10-18, including letter holes A2-C2, divide that by two, and add half to 1-9 and half to 19-27.
It will be a little extra work, but the PDGA members who played the tournament because it was sanctioned will appreciate it.
Bruce Brakel
Excellent suggestion Bruce! I agree that the PDGA members who played the event would like to have it included in their ratings.
Yep. Thanks. i thought that method would be unacceptable, but since chuck suggested it on the messboard, i'm jiggy with it.
I checked the ratings data on the players. We have enough ratings generators [eleven by my count] to get ratings if the scores go in as two 18s. More to come.
Quote...Chuck Kennedy says that you can submit it as two rounds of 18, even though we played 3 of 12, and then we'll get ratings. Chuck says that the PDGA is fine with this...
It will be a little extra work, but the PDGA members who played the tournament because it was sanctioned will appreciate it.
Bruce Brakel
I think it's pretty amusing logic that the PDGA will sanction 12-hole rounds but not rate them, and then be fine with the concept of constructing scores off of them. :huh:
Awesome!
I definitely would like to get a rating off of this tournament. If this one goes thru, i'm only 2 rounds away from becoming a ratings generator.
There is a problem which may affect ratings and overal scores for the Ams and Recs.
I was just given some very grave news by a player who was in the Am division, and I have since asked for a ruling/determination on this issue from Dave Nesbit, the PDGA Competition Director.
If we all played the same course on the same round, what difference should it make?? Can't get to the Officers' area so I really have no idea what you're referring to....
it makes a lot of difference if a player writes down "2,2,2,2,2" instead of the actual "3,3,4,3,5" or whatever he actually threw.
generally called cheating.
Quoteit makes a lot of difference if a player writes down "2,2,2,2,2" instead of the actual "3,3,4,3,5" or whatever he actually threw.
generally called cheating.
oh.
Still, I don't get why that would affect anyone else's *score*, which was the earlier implication.
And as for ratings, aren't they calculated by everyone's score, not just those in your division?
I'm a bit sleep-deprived and cranky today, but the original post just gave the impression of "someone cheated on their score so we may have to throw out everything in Am and Rec...." :blink:
Its a little further reaching than that....
Also, I believe you have to have a minimum number of scores in a division for it to be used for rating purposes. Jon and/or Bruce can answer that question better than I tho.
Awsome event, thanks for the good time and great payout. I won more at this event with 9 players in my division then I did at Standing Rocks with a 2nd place out of 72 players.
On the issue of generating PDGA ratings, you need 10 ratings generators [players with eight rated rounds and and an 800+ rating] all playing the same tees during the same shotgun start round. By my count we had 11 ratings generators. Those generators will generate ratings for all players who played the same tees at the same time. If one of those ratings generators cheated on his score and a correct score could not be determined, we'd still have sufficient generators.
Moreover, sometimes when it is close, like nine ratings generators, they will fudge a little just to let players get their rated rounds. For the Sturgeon my short tee players had only two ratings generators, but we had a lot of players with a lot of rounds who weren't ratings generators because their rating was too low. The pdga calculated raings anyway. It looked to me like they got reliable results just by comparing their scores and ratings to scores and ratings from the Kensington Spring Thing.
QuoteOn the issue of generating PDGA ratings, you need 10 ratings generators [players with eight rated rounds and and an 800+ rating] all playing the same tees during the same shotgun start round. By my count we had 11 ratings generators. Those generators will generate ratings for all players who played the same tees at the same time. If one of those ratings generators cheated on his score and a correct score could not be determined, we'd still have sufficient generators.
...and since everyone played the 'same course' in the same round, the division you were in is irrelevant for rating purposes. That was my point earlier :rolleyes:
oh, these new smilies are just so doggone cute....
John Bates, the official photographer of the Blast, shot 9 roles of film. I saw them all today and couldn't stop gawking. So many of them are EXCELLENT!
Almost very player was shot, some more than others. There's one of Jay that makes his arm look truly bionic. There's one of Mirth that makes him look really funny, but not n a bad way. A few good ones of Shawn, Jojo, and others, but the best are of Terry Miller and Chris Heeren.
Go figure.
John is scanning them in and should be giving me the CDs on Monday.
I'll do some Photoshop magic on a few and ask Mirth/Jay to post 'em.
...so did the cheating controversy get resolved? will the scores get rated?
what were the results of the ace race?
Just wanted to thank Jim and everyone else who worked their A$$E$ off to make the Blast a success.
I'm proud to say that my second place finish is the best I've had.
You have a great course down there. Keep up the good work!
thanks serg! glad you made it!
cheating controversy was not a cheating controversy. just misunderstanding mixed with brainfarts. all ok.
terry miller won AceRace upper pool, that's all i remember off hand. gotta find scorecards and post 'em.
sorry for the delay, i've been laid up with major back problems and not online much this past week.
also, i received an email from lorrie gibson, brian hoeniger's right hand up on dacotah avenue, which thanked me for the timely td report and that it was one of the best first-timer reports she's seen these many years. woo-hoo! no problems with the pdga overlords!
i will get summary of $$$ to officers soon.
The Blast results are on the PDGA Page.
Jim, i've had a few people ask about the pictures & if they were going to be added to the web soon.
yep
i told jay and mirth i'd upload them last week.
i will try to get it done tonight or tomorrow.
sorry for the delay.....
Thanks Jim for reporting it as two 18s. Maybe we'll get ratings off it.
Ok, if you're reading this and you look at your scores at PDGA.com and see two rounds instead of three don't go asking the PDGA what's up with that. What's up with that is that we can't get rated off 3 12-hole rounds but can off 2 18-hole rounds. Either way you played 36 holes and shot the same 36 hole total. ;)
I think the Blast was 3 weeks after the Midwest Open. Still no results for the Midwest Open, but we have them for the Blast. Thanks for getting those in right away Jim!
Thanks. PDGA folks were extremely helpful, responsive, and friendly. Much more than I expected. Truly cool.
Jon, forget darvon
try Mobick
actually, try Mobick and Vicodin together
i'm amazed i can ytpe ta aal
;)
thanks. sorry about the delay in coming out wit the financials. i'm not done because i have no patience for doing books right now. basically, we broke even. we may have lost $50 in stolen discs, and the pizza hut deal was only "ok". payouts were on the high side, and i comped several helpful people a few discs, for which i am adding some cash to the pot.
i learned more about running events at this year's blast than all others combined. lots of lessons learned that day. if i run any future events, they'll be done from a different perspective.
Here's the first batch of Blast 2003 photos:
http://discontinuum.org/gallery (http://discontinuum.org/gallery)
The photo gallery still needs to have its color scheme customized to match the rest of our site, but functionality-wise it's all there.
Check it out!
Come be afraid, be amazed, on show now for a limited time only, "The Anazing Forearm"
LOL
QuoteCome be afraid, be amazed, on show now for a limited time only, "The Anazing Forearm"
LOL
What is an
anazing forearm like?
Jay, your forearm is ripped! :blink:
When are you sharing your workout to get that much definition in forearm area?
thats so cool slideslow is awesome
QuoteJay, your forearm is ripped! :blink:
When are you sharing your workout to get that much definition in forearm area?
...and how much did you pay Jim to touch up those photos?? :P
Damon>50 cents, Jims not that good of a phoochopper :D
Shawn>Bowling for 15 years, competitive arm wrestsling, and lots of lonely nights. :D You should have seen me about 5 years ago, my right fore-arm was about 2.5 inches larger in diameter than my left
Those are some great pics! :D
yes i AM a good photooooper! dabbit!
mirth, sorry about the dw confusion. layout and slideshow look GREAT! THANK YOU!
Very few photos needed much photoshopping; john bates did a tremendous job....