Attached is the information for Fall League 2003. Could someone check it over for mistakes.
Note-> Time Change (Fall League Starts @ 10:00AM)
I felt that really had to be in bold....
Are we intending on playing the 9th basket?
I have to agree with Pat, that is how we decided it at my house...
The way I recall the discussion at the meeting, the $1 or $2 fee is more of an administrative cost...
It could be for someone who shows up on a Sunday morning but doesn't want to compete in the league for overall standings or wants to maybe get their feet wet with competitive disc golf. Or perhaps they just don't have the $6 to get in.
If you want to be eligable for EOL prizes, then you should be able to come up with the $6. If you just want to play along & see what best shot is all about, then $2 gets you on a card & with a partner.
That's really why this new rule was motioned, seconded, and passed - Primarily for newcomers and also to cover situations where a league regular shows, doesn't have the cash to cover the $6, and can't get the difference for whatever reason. This way we can offer an alternative to them so they can play and not just have to go home or whatever, albeit they are penalized for not being prepared.
I see how the trophy only option works well for a tournament, but not for a series-based event like a league.
How often are we going to have to enforce this new rule? Hopefully not often in the case of a league regular, but I'd hope that we DO get disc golf and/or league newbies out more often...
Also, and this is really digging deep, wasn't $1 of the $2 supposed to go into the ace fund or weekly CTP cash & the other went toward EOL like everybody else's buck?
Now, I'd like to propose that any additional discussion on this thread be moved to the relevant thread -
http://discontinuum.org/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=7&TID=526&SID=22200
So I have all the paperwork & schedule ready to go for Fall League 2003. The question is how many holes do we want to play each week? 18, 20, 22, or 24.
We are intending on playing the 9th basket. Hopefully the collar will be ready to move the basket in case soccer is still going on.
Attached is the information about the 2003 FALL LEAGUE. It has been corrected.
Fall League starts September 21st
13 weeks @ Bevier
Start time is 10:00AM
End of League Prizes will be HUGE. $ was donated from an unknown source. We have yet to determine the exact prizes but the talk was a Skillshot to first place. I'll keep you posted.
The $2.00 Option was discussed at the meeting today. Players can pay $2.00 to participate. They can collect weekly points & win overall prizes. They however do not win daily cash prizes. Anyone partnered with a $2.00 Option player that finishes in a daily payout position, they will receive the full payout amount.
I don't really see a lot of people playing the $2 option. I mean, for a while we had a $1 option and almost no one used it. We all wanna play for money and prizes, so we usually do. If someone wants to play for $2, that's fine.
Now that I realize that it's already been discussed by the club officers and was already voted on, it should stand. How do we know we need to change it? It hasn't even been used yet.
Ah...
Under the old $1 rule, the person didn't get points either. I assumed that this new $2 rule would be the same. Points shouldn't be calculated for a $2 guy because what if someone decides to pay $2 each week instead of paying the full fee, and that person makes 1st place in points at the end. Do they get the prizes and such associated with it? I should hope not. I mean, they really didn't payin for those prizes either. So if they don't win prizes, why keep track of their points?
36 :D
Seriously though I'm up for 24
Since the $2 dollar option has been started for this league, I propose that we track points for those that opt for the $2 option as well as have them eligible for overall. Since they would be contributing more to those than anyone else ($2 vs. $1 for a cash player) it is only fair that they be included in those as well.
Quotemirth (09-05-2003 11:18 a.m.):
I have to agree with Pat, that is how we decided it at my house...
I didn't realize that meant it couldn't be changed in the future...
If someone is paying twice as much to the club as someone else, that person is entitled to be in for the same stuff the half price person is paying. Plus, they are playing for the club. If that person gets into the money, the club gets their payout. We will never have half the field using this option. At most it will be an occasional person up to maybe a couple. For someone who doesn't want to gamble, this is a great option. For someone who is short on cash for the week, the same. I don't understand why we would want to penalize someone who is paying to the club twice what the cash players are paying plus they are playing for the club. Explain it to me, and then I'll shut up about it. :)
I think since the rule hasn't taken effect yet, that this is the appropriate time to discuss tweaks of the rule.
QuoteBC (09-05-2003 12:50 p.m.):
Now that I realize that it's already been discussed by the club officers and was already voted on, it should stand. How do we know we need to change it? It hasn't even been used yet.
I really don't understand this. I was in favor of the rule. I still am in favor of the rule. This doesn't change the rule. All I am saying is that someone who pays for something should get the same thing that anyone else is paying for. We voted that someone would have the option of paying $2 instead of the full fee and they wouldn't be eligible for payout. Makes sense since they didn't payin for the payout. All I'm saying is that they ARE paying for their points to be calculated and for overalls, so they should be eligible for points and overalls. THIS part was NOT discussed at the meeting, unless I was inside grabbing a slice of pizza at the time. But again, I'm not asking for the rule to be changed at all.
QuoteBC (09-05-2003 01:31 p.m.):
I mean, they really didn't payin for those prizes either. So if they don't win prizes, why keep track of their points?
People who play league, pay $1 that goes toward overall prizes. If someone takes the $2 option, those $2 goes to overalls. Not only are they paying for overalls, they're paying twice as much. It is only right that they get points and a chance to win overalls. Now the reality is that anyone who is taking the $2 option is probably not going to do well enough to win overalls, but they deserve to have a shot at what they are paying for.
I think $2 players should have their points tracked too. Look at it this way: if everyone played the $2 option, the league would make about $24 per week and $264 over a twelve week league. That pays for overalls. There is no downside to letting $2 players in for points and overalls.
NEW RULE-]You may pay $2.00 to participate. You will not collect any winnings if you finish in a payout position, CTP, or ACE Pool. You do not collect league points as well.
Call me greedy, cause I am. But if half the field on a given league day plays the $2 opion and I should happen to stumble into a finish that pays in cash and I only get 1/2 of what I would have had everyone payed up in full I am not a happy disc golfer. Sorry, but I am playing leagues for the $$$$ or prizes, not the groupies. ( I can't imagine there actually are disc goupies but I suppose there could be).
If a person wants to play along for $2 fine play along. But they only play along. No points, no payout. They pay just so they can play along with other disc golfers. That's the way the rule is written.
Just my $.02.
It just seems to me that the rule was discussed, voted on and passed by opperations commitee, club officers or who ever did vote on it (John were you there). Now before it even takes effect some want to change it. Give the rule that was worked out a chance, see if it makes any difference in league attendance, before it is changed.
I doubt that 1/2 the player on any given Sunday will opt for the $2 plan either. Just like I doubt that all of them will take the $2 option and the club will make a killing as Bruce stated in his post.
But if it should happen I would then have to decide if it is worth my time and gas to get to leagues and possibly not win enough to pay my expences occationally. Then the club is out a dollar a week.
QuoteCE-Valkyrie (09-03-2003 11:47 a.m.):
So I have all the paperwork & schedule ready to go for Fall League 2003. The question is how many holes do we want to play each week? 18, 20, 22, or 24.
I think 20 is really long enough for a doubles round; seems like we used to finish around noon or 12:15 and now it's usually closer to 1, though that'll get pushed back with the earlier start I guess.
Dr. Dye,
Could you give me Trisha's last name. PM me.
Thanks
Results after Week 1
Maybe, trying to figure out how to attach files.
Heh. Guess you haven't figured it out yet.... :P
Points after Week 1
Table of results after Week 1
Points after Week 2
Table of results after Week 2
Holy schnikes! Only two people on Sunday?!
What happened to all the golfers?
Guess none of us wanted to play once we found out you wouldn't be there! ;)
But seriously...between women's nationals, channahon and those people who went up north, it didn't leave many people left to play. I'll be there this Sunday.
Did anyone go to Channahon on Sunday? I'd thought about it but didn't have the energy, slept in too late for league and wound up playing Streamwood in the afternoon. Hit the top of the basket on #11 drive.... also hit the top of the basket on several putts <_<
Rumor has it that a certain keeper of penguins will be at league this Sunday.
Perhaps he can confirm this?
Indeed mirth, I'm going to try to break myself free of this mental prison that me and life have put myself in.
Glad to see that you are going to make it Jay, I will bring some cash for you this week.
Points after Week 3
Table of results after Week 3
Was there doubles league this past Sunday?
yes. brett's picking up the stuff from me tomorrow.
No results?
Umm... I'm sure results will get posted as soon as Brett has the info.
Points after Week 4
Table of results after Week 4
Points after Week 5
Ace Pool is up to $60.00
Don't forget about the time change next Sunday. We get to sleep in an extra hour next week. :D
Table of results after Week 5
Points after Week 6
Ace Pool is up to $76.00. Jon hit the basket on #6 today.
Table of results after Week 6
Points after Week 7
Table of results after Week 7
Just wanted to get this right before I posted.
3 questions.
1. Who won CTP $?
2. Kevin Smart played upper. Was it Kevin Length who played lower or a different Kevin?
3. What is Mark's Last name? All I need is initial.
Thanks Mirth for running the show!!!
Last Sunday
Parnters
1st
Tom S.
Kevin (Was this Kevin Lenth?)
2nd (playoff)
Dan M.
Midwest
3rd (playoff)
Jose D.
Jason W.
4th (playoff)
Luke M.
Jon B.
5th
Mark ? (anyone know his last name?)
Allan S.
6th
Kevin S.
Josh P.
7th
Shawn F.
Tony R.
Luke won the CTP $, Kevin Lenth played lower.
Mark Andrews
Thanks Shawn & Jon!!!
Danny tells me it was a Jojo day! Congrats!
Yeah, thats an understatement....
Points after Week 9
CONGRATS JOJO!!
Jojo walked away with some cash today :D .
Ace-> $103.00
1st-> $24.50
CTP-> $14.00
Total-> $141.50
Could be one of the biggest paydays in DISContinuum Best Shot History.
Table of results after Week 9.
Yeah I cant complain, it was a good day!!!! :D :D :D
Good going Joe!
THANKS!!! B)
Hey, Jojo-What hole did you ace?[/font]
#4 side arm, thats my 1st side arm ace!!!! :D
I couldnt stop smiling yesterday!
QuoteI couldnt stop smiling yesterday!
:D
That is something to smile about![/font]
Points after Week 10
Table of results after Week 10
Points after Week 11
Another Big Week!
Dan M. hit an Ace on #1 for $22.00. That hole was also a CTP Hole for a DX Firebird, DX Valkyrie, & mini. He also finished first & took over the points lead. Congrats Dan!!!
Only 2 weeks left for Winter Leagues.
Could someone double check the top 5 or so for points. Make sure they are accurate. Thanks :blink:
Table of results after Week 11
thanks brett. i looked at the points and it is amazingly close! I've enjoyed playing in this league quite a bit. The participation is alot better than where i played before i moved here a few months ago.
I forgot to mention that Pat donated the Firebird & Jon donated the Valkyrie & mini. Thanks Guys! :D
Dan,
Our leagues have grown slowly over the past few years. The point system has worked pretty good. I won by 1 point this summer & it has been very close every league since we've adopted this new points system. We've averaged around 11 players per day over the past year. Hopefully we'll continue to grow. This point system also rewards those who attend often. Thanks for attending!
Points after Week 12
Dan has pretty much wrapped up first. All he has to do is show up & finish in the top 5 to secure the position.
Brett & Mirth are battling for 2nd & 3rd.
We've averaged 11 for the Fall so far. Let's get a huge turnout on Sunday. Hope to see you there. There will be an upper & lower CTP for a disc as well.
Table of results after Week 11
Thanks Becky for donating an Aviar on Sunday!
Brett,
Just one correction. Pat Wood won the CTP$. You have his partner having won it.
ooops! :blink: Thanks Jon
Points after Week 13
Another great league in the books! 2003 Leagues have been a huge success & hopefully 2004 will continue to grow.
->Here are the results!
1st-> Dan Michler-> 65 Points-> $25.00 + plaque
2nd-> Brett Comincioli-> 64 Points-> $15.00 + plaque
3rd-> Allan Short-> 52 Points-> $10.00 + plaque
All cash amounts awarded in plastic from SunKing Discs.
Congrats Dan!!! :D
Table of results after Week 13
Some huge payouts went out during the Fall League ($710.00). 2 Aces Hit($125.00) & ($127.00) in Cash CTP's. There were also several CTP's for discs. Over $975.00 paid out during a 13 week Fall League.
For those of you that have never played DISContinuum Leagues, come on out. We have some of the most organized leagues in the states. If you like consistency, we have averaged around 12 players per week during 2003.
Thanks to those of you who have supported leagues! It has been a great year :D .
Stats for 2003 Fall Leagues
Thanks for the great job you have done running the Sunday Morning League Brett. It is always a good time. :D