IOS #5 @ Aurora, IL--09/15&16/07
Saul Esquivel just turned 10 years old. He played in the Summit Open in the "10 and Under" Division. Will there be a similar division that he can play in, at IOS #5?
I believe that there is a 13 and under division that is usually available for the IOS tournaments? I think there is about 4 or 5 young men that have been showing up for each of the IOS tournaments.
Quote from: glasspipe on July 23, 2007, 09:36:49 PM
Saul Esquivel just turned 10 years old. He played in the Summit Open in the "10 and Under" Division. Will there be a similar division that he can play in, at IOS #5?
He can still play 10 and under. It is based on the year of birth not the date of birth.
I want to offer Fox Valley Metro t-shirts as CTPs for this tournament. Who's the contact person for that, or what are the specifics?
bump
Quote from: glasspipe on July 26, 2007, 10:07:19 AM
I want to offer Fox Valley Metro t-shirts as CTPs for this tournament. Who's the contact person for that, or what are the specifics?
You can contact me. All of my contact info is at www.brasscash.com. Thanks!
long tees both rounds?
Same as last year.
Pro/Adv--Long both rounds.
Int/Rec/Jr--Long/Short
Same alternates?
Google Mapof Longs (w/ Alternates) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=41.738833,-88.384774&spn=0.005412,0.007113&t=k&z=17&om=1&msid=109692845228533224709.0004370a6863066e9afb6)
It seems forever since the last IOS...
We didn't run an August leg because of the 2 weeks of Worlds.
It does feel like a long time.......
thinking of playing on sunday
Quote from: CEValkyrie on August 06, 2007, 08:57:14 AM
Quote from: krupicka on August 06, 2007, 05:26:05 AM
Same alternates?
That is the plan.
The green for last year's hole 7A is under water and will probably stay that way for a while.
I can't imagine how wet the course is right now.
Good thing we aren't playing the tournament right now! :D
I'm picking up my Discraft tomorrow. If anyone needs anything special, let me know. Becky, I'll get your Glides.
It had been a while so I finally enter the prereg's on the PDGA Tour page.
Hopefully the course will dry out over the next few weeks. I would hate to miss out on hole 7A.
The water in front of the 17 basket/18 teebox is the only place that has standing water. All the other holes/fairways are fine.
After a heavy rain, water used to collect in front of 1, 2, 3, and some other holes. But they are all dry. You can walk straight to the basket on all of them. No water. I don't know if the park district did something with drainage into the creek, but they are all very playable.
7A is flooded though, being next to the lake. That's a temp hole we all talked about after last year's tournament was over. It was the best hole at Jericho Lake. Wish it could have stayed.
In the masters division Ron Miller pdga no. is 28678 from Aurora illinois not from Ohio please correct the info
Quote from: Ron Miller on August 23, 2007, 08:10:38 AM
In the masters division Ron Miller pdga no. is 28678 from Aurora illinois not from Ohio please correct the info
Jeez, you crotchety old guy ;D
Quote from: Ron Miller on August 23, 2007, 08:10:38 AM
In the masters division Ron Miller pdga no. is 28678 from Aurora illinois not from Ohio please correct the info
Sorry about tha Ron. I'll fix it when I get home tonight.
Quote from: Ron Miller on August 23, 2007, 08:10:38 AM
In the masters division Ron Miller pdga no. is 28678 from Aurora illinois not from Ohio please correct the info
I'm sure Ron meant to start this post with a "If you get a chance could you...." or "This is a minor thing, but I saw..." Instead of the no-punctuation (can't even wait to log in under his screenname because he's so angry) Guest Ron Miller.
Here's a smilie of Ron when he checked out the prereg today: :angry9:
And whatever you do, don't bother ending it with a "thank you," or mentioning how much you're looking forward to the tournament. You tell 'em, Ron! I agree, politeness is overrated. :whip2:
OK, let's not turn this thread into a politeness bitch thread. Everything's cool. Let's just all chill out and try to think of dryer weather! O0
Ok, everybody chill and thank you Brett and whenever is fine to correct it> I did not want a problem on the day of the tournament and again thanks and everybody have a nice day except Mukey ( get a life bud )
Glasspipe I will discuss protocol with you later and get ready to get your a$$ kicked at Jericho
I got my Aurora discs today. Diana, Kelsey and Kira all liked the custom stamp. It is just a carp jumping out of the pond [jumping off the menu of a Chinese restaurant, actually!] to see what is going on. So I'll be starting on tournament trophies tonight. Time to pre-register.
If anyone wants a Bears Flick, I've got a lot of orange Z Flicks, both in the 150 and the normal, heavier weights. I'm not sure what else I have because there was a little mix up on the order. I saw the heavier Flicks and am assuming that the 150s will be there too. Hoping, anyway!
Whoever was asking about D-Buzzzes, I have twelve or so. Stock stamped, no fishes.
Brett, if 7A is still flooded, do you have another alternate in mind already? I was trying to think of where another hole would fit, but wasn't coming up with anything great.
Even without 7a, there are still 3 other alternates.
I thought the 12A Aaron laid out for the Ice Bowl played well, even though you had to walk back up the fairway to exit. It threw north from just north of the 13 long tee. OB fence line on the left, creek on the right. 280ish distance, I think.
How I remember it (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=41.739121,-88.384648&spn=0.001421,0.002484&t=h&z=19&om=1&msid=103823172632293815936.00043871ad63b3d9360a4)
It's too bad they don't allow swimming in that lake. If they did we could play that hole with the water IB! >:D
I agree with Kurt, I really liked the alternate that was played at the ice bowl. I wonder how close the creek/river gets to that area with all the added rain right now. That came into play for a couple people on my card.
I don't know if there's anything you can do about having to walk back up that fairway to move on to the next hole. That would be the only reason I could see it not working for an IOS (presuming there's enough people that you can't put many gaps in between cards).
last year the IOS had around 72 each day. That' s 18 foursomes. No room for many gaps.
If I remember correctly there is gap in the fence about 3/4 of the way back towards the hole that goes into the garden area where the gardeners go to get water from the stream, but I am not sure if you can get back to the course from the fields, I will check into it when I get back from vacation ext week.
Oops, that link was supposed to include the fairway and pin placement. Should be fixed now. Updated Link (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=41.739121,-88.384648&spn=0.001421,0.002484&t=h&z=19&om=1&msid=103823172632293815936.00043871ad63b3d9360a4)
Walking back up the fairway was not a huge deal 'cause the hole was fairly short. It might be possible, however to go counter-clockwise around the garden area to where the other temp holes were laid out, thereby avoiding crossing 14 like we did last year.
Brett or John,
I am thinking of having my 5 yr old play at Jericho, what is the lowest age division you will be having?
Will you have an adult to go with him in case he runs out of gas or decides to quit for any reason?
Jr >10 is our lowest division. I agree with Bruce that an adult should be with that group.
not that he can't post for himself but i think scott usually plays adv so he'd be walking with the phenom
Quote from: tree on August 24, 2007, 09:18:05 PM
Jr >10 is our lowest division. I agree with Bruce that an adult should be with that group.
Actually it is 10 and under not over 10! :P
Quote from: tjdub42 on August 22, 2007, 06:29:22 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on August 06, 2007, 08:57:14 AM
Quote from: krupicka on August 06, 2007, 05:26:05 AM
Same alternates?
That is the plan.
The green for last year's hole 7A is under water and will probably stay that way for a while.
I heard that the creek has risen. High. Go figure. Michael E told me that you can't cross the bridge to the back nine & that hole #3's basket is almost entirely underwater. Three weeks until IOS #5, keep an eye on this course, & start putting together a back-up plan!
3 weeks is a long time. Just be glad the tourney isn't next week.
If I have David play, I will definately be walking with the group, and I will be putting in updates on the course conditions this week as well.
Accuweather is calling for two weeks of mostly good weather. Maybe things will dry out.
Hey, hey, holy mackerall! I traded a sweet Cubs Big Bead Aviar today at league for three ordinary but new discs. Go Cubs! I also drew a contender for biggest bagger of all time at league today and we finished first.
Quote from: Top Banana on August 26, 2007, 08:22:15 PM
Accuweather is calling for two weeks of mostly good weather. Maybe things will dry out.
I'm quite sure the course will be playable within a week or so. The rivers around here crested on Friday night into Saturday so Aurora probably crested today.
It's mainly just 2, 3, and 4 that are the problems in the front right now:
The problems in the back are 10, 11, 17, 18, and I couldn't see beyond that:
Everybody bring discs that float. Anything on dry land will be OB.
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Quote from: can't putt on August 27, 2007, 09:33:07 AM
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I am not an expert on these things and don't know how long it will take for the water to recede much less dry, but what are the odds that Jericho will still be a flood or mucky, marshy, muddy, mush in three weeks? The pictures are pretty impressive. Is it worthwhile to consider a backup?
Flooded? It shouldn't be flooded by the IOS, but it will take some time for the ground to be dried out. The best scenario would keep the course closed for the next few weeks so that the turf is not completely destroyed. My guess is that the locals are like the rest of us and just want to play. It will probably be a mess still for a while.
Hole 3 and holes 17 & 18 never really completely dried out from this past winter but were very playable. Earlier this spring, rainwater made 2,3,4 and most of the back nine unplayable, but the ground recovered nicely. The real question in my mind is how much silt washed in from the creek. If a lot, then those holes could be a mess for a very long time. If little, then I think there will be no problem. Provided of course the wet weather does not continue. As an alternate, Eagle Ridge should be considered as it's close geographically, holds up very well to rain, and is a decent course. Although the tee pads are not concrete, they are certainly better than Crystal Lake.
The only problem with considering Eagle Ridge is that when our club spoke with the park district in Oswego as they were putting in the new 9 holes, it was stated to us that they would not allow the course to be closed for a tournament; it is a public park. I can check into the possibility of reserving it, if wanted.
there should be a tournament at eagle ridge anyway, i like that course
How is everyone doing i went to aurora for the first time today. It appers to be drying up well i only had problems with two holes i believe they were 17 and 18. The course is nice, a bit easy from the shorts though. I will definitly be there though both days.
I went out there today after our club meeting and as above, 17 and 18 are wet, but playable. Holes 3 and 4 are no longer under water, but muddy. With some decent weather, they should be fine. I am not so sure about the fairway for 17 though. It took unntil June for the hole to originally dry out from the wet spring, so I would imagine it will take a while for this bout to do the same. Our VP has contacted the head of the Rec Dept at the Park District and asked to get the water pumped out b4 the tourney, but have yet to get a response. Will update as I get more info.
I once played a tournament at Riverbends where 75% of the course was ankle deep water. They had a special rule: you could play the water out of bounds or casual, whatever worked for you.
I once took a hike in the Smokey Mountains, four miles, uphill the entire way, ankle deep water the entire way, 18 kinds of rain.
Water is pretty benign stuff. You can have a lot of fun even if there is a little water here and there.
Does anyone know what the different categories are? I know there is recreational and amaetur, but is there any definite difference between them or should I just enter the one that I think my skill level is at?
Actually there is 3 divisons.
1. Recreational (players with ratings under 875)
2. Intermediate (ratings under 915)
3. Advanced
Since you are new to the tournament scene, you should play the Recreational division and not worry about what division you belong in. There is nothing wrong with any new player deciding to play in Rec. See how you feel after that and at the next event you can decide if you want to move up a division.
Just to note as well. The Recreational And Intermediate Divisions (the two lower amateur divisions) play on Sunday. The advanced Amateur and Pro divisions play on Saturday.
I agree completely, Bruce, but the problem we are running into is the loss of the grass in that area, it is becoming a bog and we would like to actually like to keep it grass if possible, with maybe next year keeping a defined area as a water hazard, not both fairways.
Course condition, 9/6 (before the rain):
- Lots of mosquitos.
- 3 & 4 are a little soft, but gentle footsteps do no damage and your shoes do not get muddy.
- 7A is still under water, but the water is receding nicely. Possibly playable by next weekend, but not as far out on the peninsula.
- 17 & 18 fairways are a muddy mess and still have some standing water. Heavy traffic would really damage these areas IMO.
- All other holes are just fine.
- 6 along the creek is marked for JULIE to inspect. New fence going in?
Thanks for the report, Bug spray is going to be even more necessary than it was at Crystal Lake.
Quote from: can't putt on September 06, 2007, 11:25:11 AM
Course condition, 9/6 (before the rain):
...anybody go out there today (Friday)?
Conditions have really not changed much, there is still ankle deep water on most of the fairway for 17 and the beginning of 18's fairway. The rest of the course is pretty good, with the fairways for 3 and 4 a little muddy, but very playable. Right now the worst problem is the smell from the anaerobic mud of the creekbed being deposited all over the course.
The course is in good shape. With another week of good weather 17 & 18 might be playable but i'm not planning on it. 17 still has quite a bit of standing water on it.
Here is the course plan.
Play holes 1 thru 13. There will be no temp hole 7A.
All the alternate holes are now marked as of today.
After hole 13 there will be a par 4 that plays from the path near #14 short tee straight west across the open area with the basket near the road. On & over the road will be OB. That hole will be 13A. It's 610 ft.
13B will be similar to last year. The basket will be in the same place. The tee will be slightly shorter and is farther to the east near the trees. The open hyzer route is blocked. The fence & road is OB. It's 325ft.
13C will be quite a bit different this year. The tee is farther east this year. The basket is placed between the cluster of pine tees. It's a straighter shot with several obstacles in the fairway. It's 285ft. Those pine trees are big time catchers!!!
13D will be exactly the same as last year.
You wil then play holes 14 thru 16.
Hole #17 will have a temp tee pad in the grass playing to the basket of #18. This hole is 295ft.
2 Rounds of 21.
That sounds great Brett. Thanks a lot for figuring out the course routing!
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 08, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
That sounds great Brett. Thanks a lot for figuring out the course routing!
I was hoping you you didn't make the score cards ;).
Here is my best attempt at a Google Course Map for IOS#5
Note The Google Satellite images are old and missing many of the tress for the alternates.
The tees/lines marked in red are not in play for 2007. 13A is out of order in the list.
Google Map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004370a6863066e9afb6&ll=41.738993,-88.384452&spn=0.007365,0.017338&t=k&z=16&om=1)
Mike,
Thanks for the update. 13A basket is north 2 more trees. Everything else looks good!!
Thanks.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 08, 2007, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 08, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
That sounds great Brett. Thanks a lot for figuring out the course routing!
I was hoping you you didn't make the score cards ;).
I don't think scorecards are done yet.
Some stuff has come up, and I unfortunately might not be able to make it out on Sunday. I'm considering doing something insane and going to play TO-Advanced on Saturday lol. My goal would just be to just try not to be in last - and not because someone DNF's!
Occasionally getting your ass totally kicked is good for your character. I know. Especially today. My character is feeling really good right now. :P
13a on the google map has been moved the requested 2 holes north.
Played a round this morning and the new layout sounds great. DO NOT FORGET BUG SPRAY! I reapplied at least four times.
Brett is the new t-pad that throws to basket 18 near 17's teepad or 17's basket?
Quote from: DougEDawg on September 11, 2007, 07:11:30 AM
Brett is the new t-pad that throws to basket 18 near 17's teepad or 17's basket?
Yes, It's near #17's long tee. Walk about 20 feet in front of it.
This is my first IOS. I pre-registered online at the club store. How do I know that everything went through ok and I am all set?
Welcome to IOS play!
As long as you have your receipt, just check the Pre-reg list on PDGA.com. They update it pretty regularly in the days running up to the actual event.
When does online prereg close?
Highs in the 60s, lows in the 40s. Might help keep the mosquitos at bay. Sounds like a great weekend!
Quote from: damonshort on September 11, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
When does online prereg close?
I believe that it closes on Friday at Noon.
A good frost would help knock out the mosquitoes, but I don't want my hot peppers to die quite yet.
Ryan - you did the echeck, right? I'll assume it will clear w/o incident. You're all good for this weekend.
Quote from: can't putt on September 12, 2007, 06:40:02 AM
Highs in the 60s, lows in the 40s. Might help keep the mosquitos at bay. Sounds like a great weekend!
That should help keep the bees a little sluggish also.
Yesss! I love sluggish bee days in September! :D
coming up on sunday
Mirth-
Yeah, I paid using Paypal. It has already shown paid at my bank so I assuming it will clear with you any day now. I think I may have registered as intermediate but I am not sure if I should be there or recreational. What do you think? I don't have a rating yet because this will be my first sanctioned tournament with a PDGA number. After playing with you a few times what do think would be the best division for me? Let me know. Thanks Mirth.
I can vouch for Ryan, his payment cleared a couple weeks back for the ace race, so he's all good :)
I think that you have me mixed up with someone else. It all good, mirth knows who I am, but hey its always nice to have someone looking out for ya. Thanks :)
Mailed in registration yesterday. You should have it today or tomorrow at the latest. TO Advanced.
Bruce: are the Discraft/DGA packs still available?
We may have a limited number. I have not done the accounting on that. I'll try to do that tonight. I spent our sponsorship this time on overall trophy discs.
Ryan - For your first tournament do whatever feels right to you. Recreational is fine unless you a) kill the competition by a huge margin or b) eventually get a rating that places you into Intermediate or Advanced.
Quote from: DiscCrazy on September 12, 2007, 09:18:40 AM
I think that you have me mixed up with someone else. It all good, mirth knows who I am, but hey its always nice to have someone looking out for ya. Thanks :)
Wow, that's what I get for not looking it up before hand and then just trying to go off memory. Ok, so if a guy named Kyle pre-reg's with an eCheck I can probably vouch for him haha.
Sorry about that Ryan.
Not a problem...
played out there today
same info as above 7 a doesnt look playable
17 & 18 muddy as hell
we played 17 tee to 18 baskets though
i had a pine eat a disc - it took a long time to get it down
i had to duct tape 3 sticks together
We will have 40 Throw Discraft player packs of 20 Brass each. I have to go make them now. I'm not going to apportion them. The lower day players are getting more overall trophy discs than the upper day players. So if the upper day players scoop the Throw Discraft Player Packs, it's even.
I'll tell Maddisen that you have to ask for a Throw Discraft Player Pack on the upper day.
As posted, we have no intention of playing 7A and we'll be playing from a temp tee to 18 basket. With the extra holes that we are adding it will be 2 rounds of 21 holes each round.
Quote from: airspuds on September 13, 2007, 03:00:15 PM
played out there today
same info as above 7 a doesnt look playable
17 & 18 muddy as hell
we played 17 tee to 18 baskets though
i had a pine eat a disc - it took a long time to get it down
i had to duct tape 3 sticks together
are paths in or out ?
also due to construction there is no sign for Jerico Rd
Quote from: airspuds on September 13, 2007, 03:22:29 PM
are paths in or out ?
If you have something on your computer that will read Word files you can see all the course routing and rules here: http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3222.msg48200#msg48200
Here it is cut and pasted...it's probably gonna look ugly though.
IOS #5 @ Aurora
Aurora, IL
HOLE # DISTANCE
Short DISTANCE
Long NOTE
1 260 322 In or over creek OB
2 190 190 On, over, or in center island of parking lot OB. Parking lot OB.
(Round 1 Tee to right(South) of sign & Round 2 Tee to left(North) of sign.
3 250 250 In or over creek OB (Only 1 tee)
4 185 227 In or over creek OB & on or over parking lot OB.
5 226 330 In or over creek OB—On or over road OB
6 222 295 In or over creek OB—On or over road OB—Past fence OB
7 292 402 Over fence OB—On or over road OB
8 370 443 Water OB—Road & Parking lot OB—*Service road is not OB*
9 222 335 In or over creek OB—Water OB
10 222 322 Creek OB
11 194 272 In or over creek OB
12 110 147 In or over creek OB
13 290 345
13A 610 610 On & over Road OB
13B 310 310 Road & Over fence OB. White paint line is cutoff from road to fence.
13C 285 285
13D 260 260 Over Fence OB—Do not trample vegetation on the other side of the fence. DROP ZONE if OB on Drive only!
14 258 453
15 212 254
16 233 254
17 295 295 Grass tee. Play to #18's basket. In or over creek OB
Saturday—Adv/Pro—Long Tees both rounds. Only Hole #2 has two different tees that will be played. Round 1 to the right of sign & Round 2 to the left of sign. Hole #3 only has 1 tee.
Sunday—Int/Rec/Jr—Long Tees Round 1 and Short Tees Round 2. Hole #2 has two near identical tees that will be played. Round 1 to the right of sign & Round 2 to the left of sign. Hole # 3 only has 1 tee. The 4 temp holes and hole 17 do not have 2 tee pads.
2 meter rule is in effect.
Completely surrounded by water.OB
On or over roads OB
On or over parking lots OB
>>Completely surrounded by water.OB
If there's still standing water on 17/18, is it casual water? (it's definitely nasty water...)
There was standing water on it yesterday. You really don't want to go over there. If you do grip lock it there, I recommend reapplying bug spray before venturing in. I would recommend asking about it at the players meeting morning of the tournament. My guess is that it will be casual as it is really not well defined. The creek is definitely OB and even worse from a bug point of view.
Mukey - got your check. Serg et all who have mailed recently - nothing received today.
Quote from: mirth on September 13, 2007, 08:02:23 PM
Mukey - got your check
Wakka wakka, land of the mosquitoes here I come! Darn that rain, both for the bugs & making 7A unplayable this year.
It'll be good to see all you fellow plastic nuts & get what looks like a mini fly/swap mart going on. I think several of us are selling discs & other extra disc gear. End of season blowout, prices slashed! :Whdatk:
Just a reminder that ONLINE PREREG CLOSES AT NOON TODAY!
Those of you with checks in the mail that do not arrive today will be contacted and given either the choice to apply it towards IOS6 or have me put your check in my shredder.
Online prereg is closed. Thanks for playing!
Quote from: mirth on September 13, 2007, 08:02:23 PM
Mukey - got your check. Serg et all who have mailed recently - nothing received today.
If I ended up paying at the event is it still $15 or would it be $20?
How will I know if you received it today?
Thanks.
I'll post after the mail comes with the names of the people whose checks come today.
There were no prereg checks in today's mail. Everybody who sent one in & it hasn't been reported as received needs to tell me what to do with their check.
Options are - roll it to IOS6 or shredder.
Please shred mine. I won't be able to make #6. Mike Wagner PDGA# 32486
Mike - I got your check & your online prereg. I'll refund the online one.
OK, thanks.
Could you please shred mine also.
So I should assume it's going to be $20 to play TO Advanced instead of $15 since my check wasn't received?
Katrina Kozar is not playing. I believe she was planning to roll it over to the next IOS. I'll confer with her/Carla and report back.
She's not.
Yup, I got that one. She's already set up for #6.
Serg - I believe that it will be the $20 for you for day of registration. You may or may not be able to plead your case w/Brett/Bruce/Becky/Jon, tho. YMMV
Light frost out by me this morning (Elburn)!
Great weather! The cool down kept the biting and flying insects at bay but it was still plenty warm enough to play comfortable. Here are Saturdays results: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6613&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Open
76 players - 4 more than last year!
nice job on getting the scores up so quickly.
looks like its going to be a wonerderful day !
scores looked good from yesterday
see you soon
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6614&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
1st round results.
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 15, 2007, 06:16:10 PM
Great weather! The cool down kept the biting and flying insects at bay but it was still plenty warm enough to play comfortable. Here are Saturdays results: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6613&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Open
76 players - 4 more than last year!
I thought Travis Rose was a current PDGA member?
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 16, 2007, 01:55:20 PM
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6614&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
1st round results.
2nd round results are up. I'm only driving home winners! ;D
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6614&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Intermediate
Nice shooting Krupicka! Sorry I couldn't be there to witness it. We had 1881 riders for the North Shore Century. It was quite a day.
Great weather! Great turnout! NO ACES!!! Big ace pot rolling over to IOS #6.
Thanks Dave, Neither you nor Diana were on my card second round. Just didn't seem right. Its a good thing AM4 is 850 and under next year or I'd be fighting from the bottom of AM3.
Quote from: Tenny Schimo on September 16, 2007, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on September 15, 2007, 06:16:10 PM
Great weather! The cool down kept the biting and flying insects at bay but it was still plenty warm enough to play comfortable. Here are Saturdays results: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6613&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Open
76 players - 4 more than last year!
I thought Travis Rose was a current PDGA member?
He is. Someone else filled out his card and didn't put a number. I figured I'd look it up later. Anyway, that's fixed. Putting in his PDGA number brought everyone's round ratings down 1 or 2 points...including his own!
Thanks to everyone who helped out, the other Brakels, Brett, Mukey, Krupicka, me, and anyone who might have helped Brett get out and bring in baskets, Dan maybe. Thanks to the Aurora club for getting the word out. Attendance was excellent.
We got home at 4:00 a.m. Today I have to do inventory and go to work on the next one. I'll try to do even more Cubs and Bears discs, and some Yodas, and a few other specials I have in mind. The Sunday players did not get to see too many of the Cubs and Bears discs. But hopefully a lot of them will play Saturday for the $500 ace pool at Round Lake and they can grab one for their player pack.
Jon,
I noticed a few things on the Adv/Pro day.
Nate Yemm #26549. He's currently listed as Neil Yemm with no PDGA #.
Matt Welter #28076 has a pdga but is not current.
Bob Gorbold #29428. I missed this one during prereg. Not current.
Brett- you may want to add to your file for the course routing sheet for Aurora two things as a reminder for next year.
1) swap which tee is played at hole #2. Use the left (North) tee for Rd 1 and the right (South) tee for Rd 2. When playing two rounds of longs it doesn't really matter, but when you play long and then short, it matches up better.
2) We should block the incorrect tee pad for that hole for both rounds. I felt bad for the 12 or so players that received +2 on Sunday.
I don't feel sorry for the ones that tried to argue that the course routing sheet wasn't clear (when it was) and especially when they were only 300 feet from tourney central to make sure they did the right thing.
Quote from: krupicka on September 17, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
1) swap which tee is played at hole #2. Use the left (North) tee for Rd 1 and the right (South) tee for Rd 2. When playing two rounds of longs it doesn't really matter, but when you play long and then short, it matches up better.
I'm not sure about that - I believe it's a little easier from the left side for some reason - but I think maybe most people 'think left to right' and it's easier to remember that 1st rd is left, 2nd rd is right.
Those that think but don't read, that is.
I think part of it is the locals call the obstructed left side tee the long tee and the straight shot right hand tee the short tee.
it also follows the pattern that the "short" tee box is always to the right of the sign post (and also is the side with the distances posted) - I can't remember if there are exceptions to this on this particular course, but in those exception cases it's obvious what tee is the short and what tee is the long.
Mike is correct that the locals call the right hand tee "short". Before the longs were poured it was the right hand tee that was concrete. Nobody really knew where the "long" tee for that hole actually was.
Quote from: krupicka on September 17, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
Brett- you may want to add to your file for the course routing sheet for Aurora two things as a reminder for next year.
1) swap which tee is played at hole #2. Use the left (North) tee for Rd 1 and the right (South) tee for Rd 2. When playing two rounds of longs it doesn't really matter, but when you play long and then short, it matches up better.
2) We should block the incorrect tee pad for that hole for both rounds. I felt bad for the 12 or so players that received +2 on Sunday.
I don't feel sorry for the ones that tried to argue that the course routing sheet wasn't clear (when it was) and especially when they were only 300 feet from tourney central to make sure they did the right thing.
I will make sure to update the bottom of the flyer for next year. I'll change them to make it easier for the local players but I disagree with any logic that one tee is harder than the other. Did any of the local players play it wrong? Last year the sheet was identical to this year and no one played the hole incorrectly. No one played the hole incorrectly Saturday. I do not feel bad. During the player meeting I made sure to state very clearly and repeated several times about playing the right tee while facing the basket.
I believe it was a local that convinced his card (and the next card) to play the wrong tee.
The instructions were clear. Not only were they stated during the players meeting, they were printed on the course routing sheet included with every card. Anyone who played the wrong tee, especially if convinced by others to do so deserved the penalty. Hopefully it will teach them all a lesson to pay attention and not rudely talk to their friends during the players meeting.
One thing that might be considered, however, is to update the routing to declare the soccer field next to 14 o.b. I know of at least one person who threw into the field while a soccer game was in progress.
The instructions were clear, both (1) when stated at the players meeting & (2) on the hand-out.
That being said, on the upper day why not play "the pro tee" both rounds? (The left tee on hole #2 was the second tee installed and is considered the long/pro tee for that hole by us locals.)
Every other hole was played from the same tee both rounds on Saturday. While the two tees on #2 are slightly different, why add any possible confusion by making #2 different?
plain and simple:
PAY ATTENTION AT THE PLAYERS MEETING!!! :o
i agree - the sheets were available prior to the T and were made available to every group
the local in our group commented on the difference
but if we were in IN you could spark up every hole and not take a penalty
but if we were in WI you could crack a beer on every hole and not take a penalty
guess the people who were stroked should count it as a learning experience rather than complain about it
i dueced from the long and hit the first tree on the short (saved the par though)
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 17, 2007, 08:09:12 AM
Jon,
I noticed a few things on the Adv/Pro day.
Nate Yemm #26549. He's currently listed as Neil Yemm with no PDGA #.
On Saturday there was a Nate and a
Niel Yemm. Neil is not PDGA.
My son, David and I wanted to just say thank you again for such a smoothly run tourney (as always). We had a great time aand David cannot wait to get up to Round Lake to spend the Brass he has left!
Regarding tees for Hole #2:this same kind of thing happened at Indiana States regarding the temp. holes, and it bils down to the same thing, pay attention & learn to read! How can you go wrong with a printed handout?
It was even worse in IN because the SCORECARD had the holes listed correctly, so when you got to 13? I thin k on the Red course, you should've noticed when you put scores for 12 that the next hole was "A".
Another great run, really fun IOS. Was nice to have a really fun group for the 2nd round and see a buddy from WI make it down. I didn't win prizes but got bragging rights and free food from my other friend, so I came out a winner anyway. Thanks to Brett, the Brakels, Krupicka, and everyone else that helped out.
steve kept it light for sure when we were all par'g
I noticed today that Chris Jordan's PDGA # is listed as 29500 for Aurora's tourney on Saturday. His correct pdga# is 29506.
Pictures from IOS #5 are up on our site:
http://foxvalleymetrodiscgolfclub.com
A couple hundred more will be up in a week or so.