Along with Aaron Scott and Jason Rose, I am proud to announce the Illinois Winter Series 2008 - a 3-event series hosted by 3 different TD's.
While all of the information is not 100% finalized, we know enough information to start telling everyone about it!
Event 1 - 2nd Annual Jericho Lake Ice Bowl (Aurora) - Sat, January 12th - TD: Aaron Scott
Event 2 - The Abominable Snowman @ Madison Meadows (Lombard) - Sat, February 2nd - TD: Jason Rose (C-Tier)
Event 3 - Irish You the Best of Luck @ Community Park (Channahon) - Sat, March 8th - TD: Scott Pitner (sanctioned)
There will be series points awarded at each of the 3 events. The events will be percentage based so that it does more of an equalization factor of different field sizes. A first place finish will always be worth 100 points, and if there are say - 15 people in the field, 2nd would receive 93 points (defeating 93% of the field 14 out of 15 players), 3rd 87 points, 14th gets 7 points, 15th gets 0 points, etc. The max you could score for the 3 events is 300 points. There will be trophies for the series winners - what we're doing for these trophies is still to be determined.
We hope to have even more information coming out soon along with some flyers to help spread the word, but the plans are to have 2008 Ice Bowl custom stamped discs at the January tournament and then Winter Series custom stamped discs for the other 2 events!
Hope to see plenty of people out there for each event!
Interesting concept :)
there was a request to move the 3rd tournament for this event from Sun, March 9th to Sat, March 8th to allow more people to go to the Lumberjack Open in Battlecreek, MI. They have MPO and MA1 on Sunday, with MA2 and MA3 on Saturday. I would think that probably more MPO and MA1 players would be willing to travel and play both events, and since I haven't submitted sanctioning yet, I can still move dates.
Would there be others interested in this plan or would it cause more people to no longer be able to attend this tournament?
Don't hold me to it - but the current consideration is to hold the event in Joliet at West Park. We haven't secured the park location yet.
I just worry about spring thaw. If there is a lot of rain, the course will be really muddy. And West Park has natural tee pads. Maybe Chanahhan would be a better choice? Multiple teepads that are concrete and alternate holes are easy to add at this course. Just an idea.
why not lockport ?
doesn't lockport have like 6 missing baskets?
I was at Lockport a couple months ago and all the baskets had been installed...
As far as i know they are still all in the ground..
I have not played Channahon yet, are all of the tees concrete now? Is there a fairly easy spot to reach to set up merch in relation to the parking lot and hole 1?
I just figured that down in that region would be a good spot to bring a couple more tournaments.
Channahon has all concrete tees except for one or two longs. There are a couple of good options for merch. setup -- you won't be disappointed there. HOWEVER, if it's spring thaw that is the concern, Channahon has several holes that become lakes in the spring.
It's a crap shoot doing a tournament in this area in March (really any month--look at Aurora this year, we were lucky to be able to play that one!) but I think Channahon would be more playable when wet than West Park. You'll get your feet wet at either course but you won't be slipping in as much mud at Channahon and I think you'll do less damage to the course at Channahon if it is wet.
Quote from: Silicon Avatar on December 27, 2007, 08:36:28 PM
It's a crap shoot doing a tournament in this area in March (really any month--look at Aurora this year, we were lucky to be able to play that one!) but I think Channahon would be more playable when wet than West Park. You'll get your feet wet at either course but you won't be slipping in as much mud at Channahon and I think you'll do less damage to the course at Channahon if it is wet.
I agree w/ Jon, and I'd also strongly suggest making a courtesy call to Frank Grimes if you do a tournament there when the conditions are questionable, considering the time he's put in on that course. ;)
I really enjoy winter tourneys and playing in less than ideal conditions. For some reason it feels like a bigger success when you play well and can be more fun. With that it can also be not fun at all when you are playing bad AND playing in the cold. Cracked Plastic and Lumberjack Open over in Kalamazoo/Battle Creek have been staples of winter disc golf tourneys for years from everything I've understood and last year I played in both and had a blast all weekend long. I'll be playing in both again this year and recommend anyone else that is thinking about it to do so as well. Looking forward to some winter tourneys here locally!
Any more info on event #3? I dont see it on the PDGA tour page i'm trying to decide on playing that or going to MI.
The event will be moved to the 8th so that pro/adv players can go play the lumberjack open on the 9th. The course should be decided upon at the ice bowl, and an announcement will be out next week along with sanctioning agreements going in. I want to make it a B-Tier, but since once again I'm cutting it short on time before tournament it's going to be a C-Tier.
sounds good, thanks
3rd event - some news - I met Frank Grimes yesterday, and he and I discussed holding a tournament. I am pleased to announce that as long as the park district has no problems with the date, the 3rd event in this series will be held on Saturday, March 8th, at Community Park in Channahon, IL. We haven't figured out the specific details, but some of the money per player's entry fee will be given to Frank to be used towards continued work on course improvements.
The Irish You the Best of Luck tournament will be a PDGA-sanctioned event.
Awesome, Channahon is a really fun course and Frank does a great job there! I just worry that the water will rival yesterday's outing, if not more.
yeah, he and I discussed that - and he had a few ideas on what can be done. So we'll keep an eye on the conditions and go from there!
I will have point standings up sometime today (if the kids allow). Just haven't had a chance to get to the numbers yet.
Here are the standings after the first of 3 events in the Illinois Winter Series.
hmm, since Taylor and Marcos did a playoff on the tie for first, should Marcos actually take 2nd place points (93) instead of 100 since Taylor won the playoff?
Nice job on posting the standings so quickly :)
Your'e right, but flip flop that. Marcos won the playoff. I'll get it changed.
oops, yeah, Marcos - I was a space cadet during that trophy ceremony trying to get ready for the onslaught of customers. It hurt not having my wife there to help. All I need is $3000 and the checkout process will go a lot faster :P
I know this may seem that I'm biased here, but as far as points are concerned, wouldn't we both get the same amount of points for tying in regulation? Just thinking about the way the PDGA points are done, but either way is fine with me in the end.
On the same note, ties for other spots were given the same amount of points as well.
for what its worth i believe that they should have the same amount of points...
Firstly they made the same score during regulation and typically the playoff is for a trophy or money. If i am correct, in most events ties count as ties in the points standings.
Per PDGA processes, all ties are the same, except for first place. First place ties are always resolved so that there is a distinct first and second.
Quote from: stpitner on January 09, 2008, 09:21:24 AM
The course should be decided upon at the ice bowl
Any word on the course for the third event?
Not sure if it was this thread or not, but Scott decided upon Channahon.
Here is an example (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6639#Recreational) of a PDGA tourney that ended in a tie in the Rec. division.
And notice there was a 1st and 2nd place, and that they received a different number of points.
Fair enough! I didn't know it was that way in the past for PDGA events, but as long as it's consistent then it doesn't really matter.
Channahon winter tourney is a great idea... We were trying to get frank to do one this winter... so this is perfect.. Plus Channahon will draw in players..
little over to weeks til the next event, The Abominable Snowman @ Madison Meadows
sanctioning agreement went in tonight for the Channahon tournament, still need to send Frank an email to discuss plans further, should be fun conclusion to the series.
Definitely don't want to overlook the abominable snowman though! I think I'll actually be able to play in that one :) I love to play Madison Meadows too. Just no insane winds please!
madison meadows,, that is lombard correct? will it be sanctioned?
Madison Meadows is in Lombard, correct. The event is C-Tier sanctioned. It's listed on PDGA.com right now.
Kool I will be there, and tell who i know... Assuming it is not 10 below or something like that..
Channahon Tournament is now B-TIER!!
Please do help us out! We're looking for more cash sponsors - wouldn't it be great to have the numbers be even higher than a $500 pro added cash payout??? Get your name on our flyers, mentioned at the players meeting, and who knows what else!
How much money to get a sponorship status?
$10 - get your name on the flyer and any other list of sponsors distributed (website, etc) - list will be sorted by dollar value, highest on top.
$20+ - get everything at the $10 level as well as your name mentioned during the player's meeting and any other perk I might come up with.
Cash equivalent items can be given away as CTP's, but right now I'm trying to focus on helping get that pro purse up there! Any cash sponsorships I would greatly appreciate receing the sponsorship money at least a week before the tournament. The less I have to worry about the week before the event the better!
Obviously sponsorships can be greater than the amounts listed here, and I certainly wouldn't turn down stuff brought in the same day of the event. Cash can also be used and turned into Rob 'em Rewards dollars sponsorships on CTP's.
Thanks!
One more sponsorship opportunity:
$50+ - get everything from the $20 level as well as your logo on printed materials (flyers, handbook, stuff like that).
Standings for IL Winter Series after 2 events:
Final Standings are below for the 2008 Illinois winter Series
Thanks to all who attended the events that made this series a success. Next year will be better as we will be planning it a little more ahead of time (not like 3 weeks before the Ice Bowl.) We are also looking at adding another event in December over at Olympia Fields as well. Stay tuned for more info.
Congratulations to all the winners of this year's series.
Trophies will be sent to 1st thru 3rd place in the following divisions:
OPEN
ADVANCED
INTERMEDIATE
RECREATIONAL
NOVICE
1st place trophies will also be sent out to:
OPEN MASTER
AM MASTERS (compiled of ADV MST and ADV GMST)
Any and all ties will be broken by the following factors:
1) # of events played.
if still tied,
2) highest best finish.
if still tied,
3) highest strength of victory (amount over/under par)
if still tied,
then those still tied will both receive trophy for that place/ finish.
Aaron, if I"m interpreting everything including the tie breakers correctly I think I'm getting the Am Master's trophy. If that's the case, I'm grateful, but please do not feel obligated to prepare a trophy for the winner of a single tournament in a micro division who had no intention of ever competing for series points. Obviously I'm only speaking for myself. Thanks.
Anything going on like this for 2009? Had a lot of fun with these last year, thanks again.
I don't think there's an official series - but there will be the Abominable Snowman on 2/7 (Jason please correct me if I'm wrong on that date), and the Jericho Ice Bowl on 2/21. Both are on Saturdays.
Quote from: tacimala on December 29, 2008, 10:03:42 AM
Anything going on like this for 2009? Had a lot of fun with these last year, thanks again.
hey taylor,
you should play the abomninable on saturday, then go to michigan! thats what i plan on doing....low on sleep after packing up tournament stuff
thats going to be a fun weekend... lombard then cracked plastic on sun..
It is a good call, definitely. I've made a weekend out of Cracked Plastic for a few years now though, so I'm not sure I want to break that tradition with friends. Stranger things have happened though! Either way, let's all rest easy on the fact that Matt Travis is going down.
exactly which course or courses are played at cracked plastic?
Coldbrook
taylor it is going to be fun this year beating you at every tourney.... you just practice that putting so you can have a chance at beating me... im gonna beat all the michigan boys...