Awesome course! This is one of the best courses I've played yet. It's 27 holes of discatcher baskets with inner chains. I only played the first 19 due to a time commitment, but they were great. This is one of the best kept courses I've seen. They had mostly rubber tees, with a couple nicely laid brick teepads thrown in there. At least every other hole had a bench there for a quick rest if needed. There were also garbage cans at almost every tee. This was a very clean course that I can tell somebody puts a lot of time into. They make very good use of the elevation that they have. There are a couple holes out in the open (including the first few), but most of the holes run through the trees. There is also every kind of shot out there - righty, lefty, short, long, you name it. They also had one of the hardest holes I've seen. It's a 320? foot hole. You tee off surrounded by trees (extremely tough to throw a tomahawk) with a 10 foot wide path going straight ahead. However, this path ends in about 150 feet. It then makes a 90 degree right turn for the remaining 170 feet to the hole. It took me 1 hr 45 minutes to get home in Hoffman Estates from this course in NE Indiana. The park charges a $2 parking fee. This fee and the drive are definitely worth it as I plan on returning to this course in the future.
The Indiana State Championships are at this course August 2 and 3. It is a great course. There is quite a bit of poison ivy in the rough. Light weight long pants are recommended for folks who are allergic.
played valpo sunday
21 baskets
Bart has a number of us on his mailing list. Lemon Lake is now 18 X 2 and will soon be 18 X 3! :) Today we received the following:
HI GANG,
I asked Santa for more holes at Lemon Lake and I got my wish. There are currently 2- 18 hole courses at Lemon Lake and by next summer we will have THREE Permanent-18 HOLE COURSES!!!!
A couple of the new holes are still rough but Mike Triumph is out there busting his ass so with a little help they should all be ready for play. Right now there is only one hole that we don't recommend playing even tho the basket and tee are in....if you get out there you will know it when you get to it.....
Look for the third course installation commencement this Spring.....
I will try and post some pics on the website of the new holes when I can and will let ya'all know they are there...
Thanks for posting that Dave. I'm on the mailing list too, but somehow I didn't get that e-mail.
3 courses there is going to be da shizzle!
Quickest way there from Illinois?
I've usually taken 41 S but if I went East more to 65 would that be quicker even though I'm going past the park & then back? Thanks
I take 94 to 394 south to route 30 east to 41 south.
derrr, don't know why I didn't think of that. Thanks Mitch. Avoids IN tolls too >:D
My boss lives just north of Lemon Lake in St. John, and she told me the way she takes is 94 to 394 south to Steger Rd (just south of 30), south on sheffield, and then turn left onto 93rd. 93rd isn't marked very well at all (residential), but it's at least at a stop sign, and then turn right onto 41 south. That's the way she takes to avoid rush hour, so since you're not going during rush hour, you may not need to take that route.
Other than first missing 93rd when I took that route, it went pretty fast when I went out for the Homie.
The route I'd take during rush hour would be Watkins Lake Rd to Saginaw Trail to a left on Hatchery all the way over to Williams Lake Road for a michigan left ... this probably isn't going to be helpful for too many of you, is it? :D
2 courses of 18
red and blue
any one who has played the temp holes in T's will recognize some of the blue holes
but but but there are several new holes
some look just cut out of the woods (hint - spotter city for sure)
i kind of muddled thru the whole course not scoring real well at all
$ 3 fee
red scorecard
blue score card
I played here Saturday. Spuds is right about the holes on Blue, some of them are the same (in the open front area of the park) while the holes after the signature "lake hole" are completely different. Also, both courses start & end at the 1st pavillion on the left vs. at the top of the hill.
Also, they were in the process of painting the baskets, so playing Red course = Red baskets & Blue course = Blue baskets.
Going out here Saturday to get some practice with my bro for next weekend & take some pictures. Will get around to uploading them once I get finished uploading McNaughton, I been slacking ;)
Too hot to take time for pics this weekend. Course looks to be in good shape for the Homie.
P.S. We stopped at Shoop's Hand-Made Hamburgers on the way back. OK, but nothing special.
ill be there on sunday
playing wednesday ( the unemployment tour ) in the morning
i want to build a little cabin in the woods to stay there and practice the courses every day, iron man doubles here on november 4th
new course going in out there... (http://www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com)
"...Hole eighteen next to the lake in the woods and on a hill slopping to the lake."
ah, disc golf in the spring..... and here I thought the mud at Bevier was bad.....
they are having in official work day on April 5 if anyone could help...or Kirk is doing some work this weekend
www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com
ill bring the beer
on the 6th
as i got dental appt on the 5 th
Went out to Lemon on Friday- it was a good time. There was a stream running through the course and it was very, very wet. Other than that, everything looks good. It was my first time out there since homie in 06. Got confused about the mando and what route you are supossed to go on the first hole after the 'lake hole' (Blue).
Shot a 56 on the Red and a 55 on Blue. Took 5's on both courses.
Can't wait to go back and get patriotic and play Red, White and Blue.
Last sunday chanced into a work day for the gold course and then got to play the first 10 holes or so and if you make it down to play be ready to be challenged there was a 900 footer followed by a hole that had to be every bit of 1100 feet then three holes down an easment where a pipe line was put in. from what I saw I believe the SSA for this course will be around 80
Sounds like fun, any idea when the gold course will be completed?
The game plan is to have the short tees complete and ready to play by tourney day... We worked from 9 till dark both days... We got 14 holes done in two days thats pretty good for the lengths of the holes... The plan is to have open and advance play the gold course for the opener... The course is amazing, it is a must play course... Hopefully you guys come out to the tourney its up on pdga now.... If you cant make it to the tourney you should atleast check out the gold course...
It's about time someone in this area designed a course that is not pitch & putt. WhooWhoo! I'll be at the opener.
me to this course will challenge anyone... Alls i have to say is dont get off the fareways or you are in a world of trouble.. These holes are crazy...
Played the new course today, I guess they're calling it Silver for the shorts and Gold for the longs. Mostly in the woods with a few in an open field. Made for a fun day playing all three courses there, worth a stop to check it out. They've groomed the Blue holes in the woods a bit, making the hole after the lake shot easier. Only bad thing was that they were out of course maps for the new course. If anyone has one or gets one, please post it, thanks
What did everyone who played the new course at Homie think of it?
I liked silver, but it wasn't as hard of a course as some had originally made it out to be. There are several tough holes that combine distance and accuracy, there are 6 or 7 short tunnel type shots under 350 and there are a couple long holes out in the open. Depending on the pin placement of the one long hole it is a very tough 3 and even a tough 4 if you get caught up in the shule.
I think what I like most about the course is that it's really not like the other two courses at all. The other two courses I have always found somewhat similar and I can never remember which hole belongs to which course. Not the case with silver. Good addition to Lemon Lake for sure.
I was not impressed with the silver course design. It was righty dominant, not even close to balanced. I saw one lefty hyzer hole. It was not designed with the safety of other park users in mind. There were places where you were driving across a bike path or a horse path. There are many places where the course design is going to cause erosion problems, unless they are planning on building retention walls and stairs. And, it was mostly conventional par 3 golf except for one long hole that was totally out of place with the rest of the course. The course will probably have an SSA of 47 or 48. There was nothing that seemed particularly clever, original or interesting.
They did a good job with hole seperation and routing. I cannot think of anywhere that players from another hole were in your fairway, or where the next tee was too close to the previous basket. And they did a good job of placing the course close to two other courses, so you can play all day there.
I would rate the silver course as average, but still better than most of the courses we use for the IOSeries.
i liked the silver course it definitely is a hard course not the hardest i have played but i would not say that that it is righty dominate because there are alot of short holes that play to a lefty bruce is just crazy it is a not an easy course for rightys . the creek bed that plays through most of the wooded holes can get anybody into trouble. i look forward to the gold course being finished longer tighter holes the the silver.
The silver course was designed to be challenging for all skill levels. There are a few more righty holes then lefty.. but i wouldnt say that the course is geared towards righties... I Cant wait to hear peoples comments when the gold course is finished...
I will resume this. I am short on time. My opinion on righty or lefty friendly. I agree with Bruce and think this course leans towards the righty. I would not want to be a left handed player on #3 & #18 that is for sure. If the normal pin on #8 is used i'd say that hole would end up favoring a righty as well with that last approach/fairway drive. 4 of the 6 lefty holes I used a Roc or Buzz.
I expected this course to be longer and harder from what I was being told. It's a good course and has some good holes. Some very fast greens.
1. L
2. R
3. Heavy Right
4. R
5. L
6 R
7. R
8. N (R if long pin is used)
9. N
10. R
11. L
12. L
13. N
14. N
15. L
16. L
17. R
18. Heavy Right
I could also make an arguement that hole #12 sets up better for a righty. If a lefty hyzers near the woods to the right their approach shot is much more difficult. A righty that makes a similar shot ends up being on the left hand side of the fairway with a better angle on the approach.
I am interested to see the scores from the gold course (long tees). I played many of them in practice and it will definitely add strokes to your score. The gold tee on #6 makes that hole really difficult. That would be an awesome 3. The Gold tees on #8 & #9 add 2 strokes to your score. Hole #11 gold tee is tough and adds anywhere from 1 to 3 more strokes. Who knows, maybe more. I could see some major blow ups on that hole. I also saw a gold tee on hole #2. What other holes have gold tees?
Dont hold me to this cause it was awhile ago we put the holes in.. but 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,14,15,16,17,18 i remember those have gold tees for sure
When talking about righty or lefty holes a lot of people make the mistake of assuming that a hole that the basket is to the right is a lefty hole and a hole that the basket is to the left is a righty hole. I've played plenty of courses where there was a much better righty turn over shot and come back than there was a normal left hyzer route. On a hole that has a route or multiple routes I usually have to look at it for a minute and make airplane motions with my hand to figure out if it is a lefty hole or a righty hole. I think what a lot of us just look at and assume is left favorable really isn't. People who throw with both can usually do this quicker than those of us who only throw from the right.
Ya i do that to... I spin around in circles about 30 times. then look at the hole and make my decision... and if its still hard to tell ill put my right finger on my nose... its all about the airplane motions...
Well, if like 3% of disc golfers are left handed (throwing out wild generalizations here) then shouldn't only 1 or 2 holes out of 18 be designed for left handed people?
Tac-
With the 3% generalization, shudnt there be at least 15 lefty holes and only 3 righty?
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Quote from: tacimala on October 17, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
Well, if like 3% of disc golfers are left handed (throwing out wild generalizations here) then shouldn't only 1 or 2 holes out of 18 be designed for left handed people?
Well, if you were making a fair and balanced course I think you'd make 6 lefty holes, 6 righty holes and 6 holes that are neutral or could be played both ways. Lefties might be a small percentage of the population but they have to play all the holes. You'd have to define what you are trying to achieve before you start your design. True lefty holes should be a challenge to righties by definition, right? But lefties are much more used to playing righty holes than visa versa. Shove that up your nose lil wayne!
I just don't buy into it. If 90% of Innova throwing disc golfers are throwing Rocs, why would they go out and make those in limited quantities and start mass producing Sharks. Poor business decision.
edit: I don't mind "hard" courses in the least bit or have a problem with "lefty dominant" courses. I just don't think it's really a concern worth validating a course on.
Maybe we should start a lefty-righty course design thread, but I'll add to the drift a bit
>drift
Variety is definetly a concern when validating a course. I haven't gone up to play Antioch because of Brett's description that it's RHBH city. I don't want to play the same shot over & over. I have a decent forehand drive, so lefty holes don't bother me as much (although righty forehand isn't the same as lefty hyzer, but that's another topic altogether) We all like the easy courses, 'cause they're fun, but it's so much more satisfying shooting under at a tough course. Take West Park vs. Channahon for instance.
>drift
I also found Silver/Gold to be not as good or interesting as Red or Blue. Not that it's bad at all, still puts ours to shame, and I'd play it any day of the week. Maybe because it doesn't have elevation. That's the only real difference in that area of the park.
I have yet to play the New Lemon Lake. Where is the Silver course located in regards to the red/blue course. It has been a couple of years since I played Homie. I remember the blue course was a temp course mostly. They used some permanet holes from the original 27 hole course...or was it 24? Are they now three 18 hole courses?
Juan,
Lemon lake is 3 full 18-hole courses now, Red, Blue, and Silver/Gold. Red is the West course, Blue is East, and Silver is over just past the blue course, just over the bridge . Silver's a nice course, but not as hard as they said it would be. Some of the Gold layout teepads looked pretty gnarly though. I still prefer the Blue course though (one and only 1000-rated round on that course, -7)
Quote(one and only 1000-rated round on that course, -7)
Nicely done. I would like to get out there some day. Season is quickly coming to an end, so and hour and a half drive for a casual round is gonna be tough.
Quote from: El Mexicano on October 18, 2008, 02:25:36 PM
Quote(one and only 1000-rated round on that course, -7)
Nicely done. I would like to get out there some day. Season is quickly coming to an end, so and hour and a half drive for a casual round is gonna be tough.
If you make a day of it you get to play 3 new courses for the price of one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2E5aCJQMY8
take the day off
bring ur food
play blue first then red then eat rest for 20 minutes
then go hit silver
nothing beats lemon lake at 830 in the morning on a work day
A few of us are going to Lemon Lake on Wednesday 3/11. I was wondering if anyone has been there in the past few days and how the course is holding up with all this rain. BTW we will be there around 10am and will be playing all day if any locals wanna join us.
my guess would be that it is a river....
was there a week ago. the course was dry and empty. im sure its better than our local courses
white is in the ground
some of the tees are still being groomed though
shot -1
kev c shot -3
from the short pin locations
short technical course
red is under going some lengthening and kicked our a$$es as usual
we plan on playing blue next week sunday early
park fee was 4 bucks
a small price to pay for 4 courses in one location
Played Lemon Lake today with Dan and Brett. We played the gold course and Brett got an ace!
nice. way to go Brett!
2010 Indiana State Championships
The Red Roc Disc Golf Club presents...
The 30th Annual
Indiana State
Disc Golf Championships
Sunday, August 15th, 2010 Lemon Lake County Park – PDGA B-Tier Event
2 Rounds of 18 Holes
Players meeting 9am (Central Time)
pre reg online
http://www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com/
already registerred. Have to go back and defend my title in advanced from last year. ;)
This was in DiscGolfFlyMart's latest newsletter:
QuoteThe 5th course is currently being installed at Lemon Lake. What I've seen of it so far uses some unique elevation changes...what color should we make it? We already have Red, White, Blue, Gold, and Silver.
Does anyone have the scoop on this?
I'm in the same boat as you Mike. Don't know too much. I have been hearing rumors about a Black Course in the northeast corner of the park for awhile. I think it would be similar to Gold/Silver in terms of terrain. I don't think there's a lot of open land north of the fishing pond. I could be wrong. So it will probably be technical with elevation/drop-offs like the Silver course. Maybe I'll try to scope it out on Sunday.
you need to enter the subterranian course under the bridge inbtween blue and gold
tip the troll with live flesh please to enter
cannibilistic humanoid underground discers
Quote from: airspuds on October 08, 2010, 11:55:18 AM
you need to enter the subterranian course under the bridge inbtween blue and gold
tip the troll with live flesh please to enter
cannibilistic humanoid underground discers
I think I will play Red and White this weekend. I'm not looking for any trouble. If I wanted to play dangerous disc I would play the back nine at Jericho and wear a helmet. ;D