Sat-Sun, March 29-30, 2008
PDGA A-tier - you MUST be a PDGA member
Qualifier for Am Nationals.
Courses:
West Lake Part - Davenport - 24 holes - among top courses in the midwest
Middle Park - Bettendorf - 18 holes
Eastern Avenue Park - Davenport - 19 holes
All Pros: West Lake, Middle, West Lake
Advanced Men & Women: Middle, West Lake, Eastern
Adv Masters, All Intermediate & Juniors: West Lake (shorts), Eastern (shorts), Middle
Pre-registration is available at PDGA.com: http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1202689233
The local club web site's tournament link is now active. Good pictures of West Lake.
http://www.qcdiscgolfclub.com/events/rumble_preview2008.php
Last year they had a doubles event on Friday and a final nine for the top four pros on Sunday afternoon.
I still haven't played West Lake yet. Can't wait for this tournament. 100$ entry fee, I'm going to have to cash in my change ;D
I saw that the American Inn was a sponsor, but didn't know if that meant there was a special rate or a block of rooms had been set aside? Does anybody know any information about this? Secondly, where is everyone staying for this tournament?
when I was on the phone to the TD John Resch the other day, he said they do have a special rate of something like $65 (I don't know the exact amount though), and I didn't ask if they had a block of rooms. I would think that there would be a block available at the special rate and that's it. They decided to not go back to the same place as last year - although it was a super nice place!
everyone pray for a dry march if you want to play west lake for the RCR
crap!
I still can't get into the QC site, but a couple of questions, if anybody can answer:
1) If there are 3 pools, and everybody's playing West Lake, and the pros are playing it twice, there must be 3 separate tee times on Sat; but they're not listed.
2) It sounds like "West Lake" is much *more* of a lake right now than usual, and will only get worse through March. (I grew up back there, so I know what the water in the spring is like... :P ) - Daanaaa's post suggests that the course availability might be in question.
Quote from: damonshort on February 27, 2008, 09:15:54 PM1) If there are 3 pools, and everybody's playing West Lake, and the pros are playing it twice, there must be 3 separate tee times on Sat; but they're not listed.
Last year the total number or Pros, Adv Masters, & Intermediate added up to 65, so if they increase to 72 they can still fit threesomes onto every hole at West Lake (24 holes). I do not know, but I assume those divisions will play together for the first round on Saturday.
Quote from: damonshort on February 27, 2008, 09:15:54 PM2) It sounds like "West Lake" is much *more* of a lake right now than usual, and will only get worse through March. (I grew up back there, so I know what the water in the spring is like... :P ) - Daanaaa's post suggests that the course availability might be in question.
From the iowadg.com forum:
The main sticking point that we have is that the Scott County Conservation Board of Directors (rulers of West Lake) have written the following stipulation into our park usage permit :
"It must be understood that the weather may make the course unplayable or create conditions for excessive damage if the event is held. The Park Manager has the authority to cancel the event if ground conditions warrant."
The first RCR was held on 4/9/06 and was reasonably dry, but we didn't have the snow that winter that we have now.
BTW, happy birthday, DS.
The event is 4 weeks away. I would try to move it to a date later in the year if it were my event. I have no inclination to travel 3 hours to a tourney, not knowing if they will be allowing us to play the course or not. Not to mention its most likely going to be a muddy disaster in late March, which shouldn't have come as a big surprise to anybody.
well, even though playing west lake would be preferable, thankfully they have other good courses that could be used in its place
Here's the information that I have:
1) If they call the event, they are going to call it with enough advanced notice so that people can plan accordingly. If there's any chance that the conservation board will pull the plug on them, they'll make that choice as early as they can.
2) There is discussion about the possibility of using a backup course even though the main pull for this event is playing West Lake.
3) The event cannot be moved to another weekend this year because in order to use West Lake they must also rent a minimum of one pavilion with the event, and all pavilions are booked for every weekend for the remainder of the year.
4) I know that for Sunday they are planning on having tee times to get everyone through. I don't know what the plan was for Saturday morning. The main reason I talked with the TD (John) was because he wanted to make sure that I was ok with no one playing at Eastern for the morning round on Saturday.
5) There is a lot of good discussion about this event going on at iowadg.com, found here (http://iowadg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3390).
Damon,
See if this direct link works:
http://www.qcdiscgolfclub.com/events/rumble_preview2008.php (http://www.qcdiscgolfclub.com/events/rumble_preview2008.php)
That's the page that loads no problem for me and discusses the RCR and sign-up information.
thanks. I can get to the QC site, but not into the forums. Most of the info seems to be at IowaDG.com anyhow.
thanks, Scott, for pointing me there.
Gentlemen: After significant discussion, it was decided by those in attendance at
last night's meeting of the Quad City Disc Golf Club, to postpone the date of the
River Cities Rumble until later in the year. Aside from the potential for flooding
at some courses, the main reason for this decision is because there is possibility
of having the event cancelled 'day of' by the authorities at West Lake Park. It
just isn't a gamble we're willing to take. I contacted Dave Gentry this morning and
let him know of our decision. Our next step is to provide Dave with alternative
dates so that we can reschedule the event. Once we've narrowed our options, I'll be
in contact with you to ensure there are no conflicting dates. If you could disperse
this information to your constituents by whatever means is convenient, it would be
greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time, John ReschChairmanQuad City Disc Golf
Club
maaan, and it would figure that Bowling Green would now be full for INT/REC signup oh well lol. I'm proud of them for making this decision early enough for all though. It was a wise step.
Can anyone tell me if there is going to be another tournament in the area that will be a qualifier for the 2008 United States Amateur Disc Golf Championship?
Quote from: DiscCrazy on February 28, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
Can anyone tell me if there is going to be another tournament in the area that will be a qualifier for the 2008 United States Amateur Disc Golf Championship?
http://www.midgp.com/qualifiers.html
Standing Rocks, Stevens Pt, WI, 4/26-27
St. Louis Open, 5/3-4
Greater Milwaukee Open, 5/17-18
AJ Open, Ludington, MI, 5/24
Greater Des Moines Challenge, 5/24-25
Minnesota Majestic, 5/31-6/1
was really looking forward to this one. pretty disapointed. got to cancle my hotel reservation now and get my pre reg back. >:(
probably head to bowling green now, already got the time off work.
Quote from: stpitner on February 28, 2008, 08:46:57 AM
3) The event cannot be moved to another weekend this year because in order to use West Lake they must also rent a minimum of one pavilion with the event, and all pavilions are booked for every weekend for the remainder of the year.
I guess if Scott's info is correct they'll have trouble with the rescheduling. I was looking forward to playing West Lake also, hopefully they can find or bribe someone to let a pavillion go.
well, it was the TD that said both things, so it's possible that he worked something out with the park district (or someone cancelled)
Quote from: CEValkyrie on February 28, 2008, 01:48:07 PM
Gentlemen: After significant discussion, it was decided by those in attendance at
last night's meeting of the Quad City Disc Golf Club, to postpone the date of the
River Cities Rumble until later in the year.
A very wise decision. As much as everyone wants to play, scheduling any kind of sanctioned event, let alone an A-tier, in this part of the country this early in the year, just isn't a really practical idea.
Although I'm still leaning towards playing Channahon next week. ::)
Quote from: damonshort on February 28, 2008, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on February 28, 2008, 01:48:07 PM
Gentlemen: After significant discussion, it was decided by those in attendance at
last night's meeting of the Quad City Disc Golf Club, to postpone the date of the
River Cities Rumble until later in the year.
A very wise decision. As much as everyone wants to play, scheduling any kind of sanctioned event, let alone an A-tier, in this part of the country this early in the year, just isn't a really practical idea.
Although I'm still leaning towards playing Channahon next week. ::)
hehe, hence why it's part of the 2008 Illinois WINTER Series ;) You guys at least get to warm up some by playing. It gets chilly at the merch tables! Might have to try to get the wind screens to work on the E-Z Up at this one!
What about the pavilion in between 18 and 1?
According to John Resch over at the iowadg forums - they are currently looking at running this event a single day, B-Tier event on October 12th. The intentions I believe are to return it to A-Tier status for 2009.
That is disappointing. Same day as the HOMIE. I'll be heading there.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 04:26:15 AM
That is disappointing. Same day as the HOMIE. I'll be heading there.
i second that motion. why ruin such a great event and cram it all into one day? terrible idea. :angry:
I believe that based on my expieriences that the HOMIE is probably the best/my favorite of all non-majors tournaments, i will begoing there especially with the 50+ pros that came out last year
it's probably the only day that they could get a pavilion in order to use West Lake.
The Homie is a very good event and it's not far at all. I like the courses. The free lunch and dinner makes it great.
As far as the RCR is concerned. If I were running that event i'd pay the park fee for a pavillion even if they are all rented. If that's the course fee so be it. I'd just not use a pavillion.
The Homie is one of the best one-day tournaments within a reasonable drive of Chicago or Detroit. Other than the mistake of setting up the leaderboard in secret and keeping scores secret until it is too late to correct the mistakes, and all the mess that makes, they do a really good job. Every Homie I've played I've been victimized by secret leaderboard mistakes that ultimately got fixed o.k.-ish. The Homie is where I learned how important it is to keep the leaderboard out where everyone can see it while scoring is in progress so that the players can catch the mistakes. Anyway, it is such a good tournament, in spite of that, I keep coming back every year I possibly can.
I once cancelled a tournament I was supposed to run when the Homie fell on my date. Then I went and played the Homie! ;D
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on March 18, 2008, 12:31:45 PM
The Homie is one of the best one-day tournaments within a reasonable drive of Chicago or Detroit. Other than the mistake of setting up the leaderboard in secret and keeping scores secret until it is too late to correct the mistakes, and all the mess that makes, they do a really good job. Every Homie I've played I've been victimized by secret leaderboard mistakes that ultimately got fixed o.k.-ish. The Homie is where I learned how important it is to keep the leaderboard out where everyone can see it while scoring is in progress so that the players can catch the mistakes. Anyway, it is such a good tournament, in spite of that, I keep coming back every year I possibly can.
I once cancelled a tournament I was supposed to run when the Homie fell on my date. Then I went and played the Homie! ;D
Bruce's forehand compliment is pretty good but he has a wicked snap on his backhand...
oh I agree, I enjoyed playing the Homie in 2006. I don't know the stipulation with the pavilion rental, that's the Quad Cities DGC job to figure out. They probably won't have multiple vendors out there either, so I'll just have to wait for RCR 2009 :)
The 2007 Greater Milwaukee Open (B-tier) will be a USADGC qualifier this year!!!I apologize that all of the info isn't posted just yet for the event but it will be a split day format on the weekend of May 17/18. I'm just not sure which divisions are playing which days just yet.
Look for all the details to be posted by the end of this upcoming week.
Ter
Quote from: DiscCrazy on February 28, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
Can anyone tell me if there is going to be another tournament in the area that will be a qualifier for the 2008 United States Amateur Disc Golf Championship?
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 11:44:19 AM
The Homie is a very good event and it's not far at all. I like the courses. The free lunch and dinner makes it great.
As far as the RCR is concerned. If I were running that event i'd pay the park fee for a pavilion even if they are all rented. If that's the course fee so be it. I'd just not use a pavillion.
I agree Homie's is awesome...but why isn't it on the PDGA calendar yet? That's what the club went by to see if there were any conflicting tournaments that day.
The park won't let us run any tournament without getting a pavillion. It was explained like this; there's limited parking at West Lake, and if someone rents a pavilion then that usually means there will be a lot of cars there already. Then you bring a tournament in without getting a pavilion then you'll have people parking all on the grass and who knows where...and they aren't having that. And the pavilions are rented pretty close to a year in advance and the October date was the earliest available.
We are working with the parks and the pdga to get a better date for next year.
Quote from: MDR_3000 on March 22, 2008, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 11:44:19 AM
The Homie is a very good event and it's not far at all. I like the courses. The free lunch and dinner makes it great.
As far as the RCR is concerned. If I were running that event i'd pay the park fee for a pavilion even if they are all rented. If that's the course fee so be it. I'd just not use a pavillion.
I agree Homie's is awesome...but why isn't it on the PDGA calendar yet? That's what the club went by to see if there were any conflicting tournaments that day.
Mike,
Sorry it took me so long to post a response. Been on the road since Thursday. Brain is notorius for getting his dates added to PDGA last minute. I'm sure the Homie won't appread on pdga.com until late summer.
PDGA is slacking getting tourdates up- I sent (and paid) GPO info in a LONG time ago and it is still not up.
I noticed that too..they were slacking in moving our date from March this year.
he typically puts it up that late because well thats the date, people plan around the event
also www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com , left column
Quote from: skipache on March 27, 2008, 05:18:05 AM
he typically puts it up that late because well thats the date, people plan around the event
also www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com , left column
that is just a retarded statement. i'm pretty sure he puts it up late due to indifference.
Quote from: skipache on March 27, 2008, 05:18:05 AM
he typically puts it up that late because well thats the date, people plan around the event
also www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com , left column
How is a club in Iowa supposed to know about redrocdiscgolfclub.com?
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 27, 2008, 05:29:22 AM
Quote from: skipache on March 27, 2008, 05:18:05 AM
he typically puts it up that late because well thats the date, people plan around the event
also www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com , left column
that is just a retarded statement. i'm pretty sure he puts it up late due to indifference.
I agree. That is one of the most ridiculous statements i've ever heard. There are hundreds of TD's around the country that would love to know that their event is going to be on the same weekend every year. There is absolutely no excuse for getting the date onto the PDGA page late. It should have been on there in January.
What is the over/under on this date being added to the PDGA Tour page? August?
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 27, 2008, 08:42:08 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 27, 2008, 05:29:22 AM
Quote from: skipache on March 27, 2008, 05:18:05 AM
he typically puts it up that late because well thats the date, people plan around the event
also www.redrocdiscgolfclub.com , left column
that is just a retarded statement. i'm pretty sure he puts it up late due to indifference.
I agree. That is one of the most ridiculous statements i've ever heard. There are hundreds of TD's around the country that would love to know that their event is going to be on the same weekend every year. There is absolutely no excuse for getting the date onto the PDGA page late. It should have been on there in January.
What is the over/under on this date being added to the PDGA Tour page? August?
I'd say it's Worlds week in August, lol
whatever i dont give a fuck, just keep talking shit about TD's, i know they/we don't do everything right, are to slow to get things in and whatever other horrible injustices the players have to suffer but come on, at least they run events so i dont have to drive to michigan every weekend to play a tournemnt
Quote from: skipache on March 27, 2008, 11:15:05 AM
whatever i dont give a fuck, just keep talking shit about TD's, i know they/we don't do everything right, are to slow to get things in and whatever other horrible injustices the players have to suffer but come on, at least they run events so i dont have to drive to michigan every weekend to play a tournemnt
Gimme a break. Gary runs the Lumber Cup, Channahon, & IL State. Brian runs Olympia, Home, & IN State. That's 6 tournaments out of about 20+ that are listed on the Disc Golf Tour document. I know you'd like to be able to plan your driving as you play a lot of events, probably more than me. So about 1/3 of our area's tournaments aren't accounted for and will take a long time to appear. That sucks.
Its only other TD's and himself that Cummings is screwing over by not publicizing his tournament dates in a timely manner.
everyone is right about everything they have said, I am afraid however that we will not be able to solve anything this way, i mean calling Gary/Brian is probably the only way to get information about the events
ps. I too would like to plan my tour a bit earlier in the year but.....
Cool, cool. This board is people we actually know too, so there's none of that anonymous internet posting sh*ite. let me revise my earlier post, don't need to get personal here.
We're not trying to solve anything, I'm pretty sure we've called Gary & Brian before with limited results. Just voicing our frustrations.