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Title: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 02:52:45 PM
I will be attaching the course information pages for every event a week or so prior to every event.

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IOS #1 @ KENOSHA, WI

If you view the Krupicka Google Map below it will gvie all the information you need for the tournament.
All Divisions play identical course.
Rd 1-> Long Tees.
Rd 2-> Short Tees

All 3 temporary holes will have the DISContinuum DGC FlyPads for tees.
Holes #4A and #6A will be exactly the same as last year.
Hole #18A will play down the road similar to last year but the pin will be set long & on a peninsula.

Course Pictures
http://www.sewisconsindiscgolf.org/courses/parkside/uwp01p.html

Course Map
http://www.uwp.edu/departments/union/discgolf/uwpcourse.html

Krupicka Google Map w/ Alternate Holes and OB Information. (Sweet map Mike!)
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&z=17&t=k&msid=109692845228533224709.00000111c20107121f141&msa=0
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 02, 2008, 05:54:55 PM
Sergio notified me about a change in the road at UW Parkside. Hole #18A will most likely not be an island hole but will have some OB. I will get that updated prior to the event.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN on April 02, 2008, 06:05:32 PM
good cause a 700 foot island hole is a beast of a hole... Alot of people liked it where it was last year... It was challenging cause the ob on the left side and the elevated basket....
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 02, 2008, 06:44:21 PM
Quote from: OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN on April 02, 2008, 06:05:32 PM
good cause a 700 foot island hole is a beast of a hole... Alot of people liked it where it was last year... It was challenging cause the ob on the left side and the elevated basket....

I'm not quite sure how this new hole will play out until I get out there to play it & pick a spot for the basket. It's possible there still could be an island using rope but I don't think that's needed.

I actually think the island and pushing it back makes it a tad bit easier if you play it smart. It however gives you some options to go crazy and take huge numbers. Wind could be a brutal factor making that island very difficult to land on.

Old vs Possible New.

Old-> It is very reachable in 2 shots for many players. That 2nd shot is very dangerous with the OB. The elevated teepad makes a difficult green and the OB was right there for air ball putts. You could play this safe and take a par of 4 by playing to the right side twice. Then making a solid pitch up and putt. That's easier said then done. The OB was very close to the basket.

New-> If used the extra distance and small landing area makes it very difficult to stick it on the 2nd shot. If you play it smart you'd keep your drive to the right. The 2nd shot would be short of the road and right. Pitch it on the island and sink a putt. Make or break is that 3rd shot.The option to go for the 3 is there for some players. Can we say big #'s >:D.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: damonshort on April 02, 2008, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 02, 2008, 06:44:21 PM
I'm not quite sure how this new hole will play out until I get out there to play it & pick a spot for the basket. It's possible there still could be an island using rope but I don't think that's needed.

I actually think the island and pushing it back makes it a tad bit easier if you play it smart. It however gives you some options to go crazy and take huge numbers. Wind could be a brutal factor making that island very difficult to land on.

for the lesser players you're looking at the same differences w/ an extra shot, in general. The island scenario is a bit more interesting (imo, fwiw, etc.) but I'd vote against any kind of artificial rope maneuvers. There's enough 'natural' options with either choice you'd make (assuming you're alllowed to use the island option....)
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: DougEDawg on April 04, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
Pin placements pretty much the same as last year?  also, what about the hole b4 18A.....the 180 footer where the tee was the sidewalk, and it went downhill along side a building?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 05, 2008, 07:56:54 AM
Quote from: DougEDawg on April 04, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
Pin placements pretty much the same as last year?  also, what about the hole b4 18A.....the 180 footer where the tee was the sidewalk, and it went downhill along side a building?

Doug,

   Check the first post on this thread. See the attachment at look at the Krupicka Google Map. It has all the information you need to know.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 06, 2008, 07:38:11 PM
I'll try and get the holes moved during the week. There might be a couple we'll need to wait and move so the ground can harden up a little (if that's possible).

In my opinion, course isn't too bad. Yes, it's wet but not as bad as it has been. This past weekend's sun and breeze helped with some drying.

I'll let you know when I move the baskets.

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 06, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
Thank you Sergio!

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 07, 2008, 08:28:50 AM
Looks like there are only 4 baskets that need to be moved:
#1 (move to short)
#2 (move behind bushes)
#4 (move around the corner)
#13 (move to long/straight)

If anyone comes to play before these get moved you can throw to these placements as if you were playing the tournament layout.

#1 is fairly wet around the tournament placement so it might need to wait until later in the week.
Haven't looked around the corner on #4. Slope drains everyhting that way so it might be a little wet.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 10, 2008, 07:12:15 PM
#1 is not looking good right now. Probably won't get moved this weekend.
The other holes should be able to be moved. I'll be leaving for the weekend so I'm going to have someone take care of the moving IF THEY FEEL IT'S OK TO DO SO. It's not supposed to be any drier up here this weekend so if we can keep the pins away from the troubled spots we're going to do it.

Remember, only four holes will be changed from the current layout. They shouldn't make that big of difference if you practice those four to their alternate locations for the tournament.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 10, 2008, 07:17:44 PM
Quote from: SERG on April 10, 2008, 07:12:15 PM
#1 is not looking good right now. Probably won't get moved this weekend.
The other holes should be able to be moved. I'll be leaving for the weekend so I'm going to have someone take care of the moving IF THEY FEEL IT'S OK TO DO SO. It's not supposed to be any drier up here this weekend so if we can keep the pins away from the troubled spots we're going to do it.

Remember, only four holes will be changed from the current layout. They shouldn't make that big of difference if you practice those four to their alternate locations for the tournament.

Thanks for the update & work Sergio! Hopefully we'll have some great weather next weekend.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 13, 2008, 07:18:04 PM
COURSE IS IN TOURNAMENT POSITION

I didn't get a chance to get out to the course but was told the baskets were moved this weekend.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 13, 2008, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: SERG on April 13, 2008, 07:18:04 PM
COURSE IS IN TOURNAMENT POSITION

I didn't get a chance to get out to the course but was told the baskets were moved this weekend.

Sergio- You are the man. 8)
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 14, 2008, 09:14:45 AM
I can't take the credit for the move...DAVE LIGHT moved the baskets. Dave is one of our unsung heroed volunteers (if heroed is a word). Dave does garbage duty most of the summer by carrying around trash bags and emptying the garbage bins on each hole. HE is the man!

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 16, 2008, 10:57:53 AM
I know someone was asking about course conditions but I can't find it and don't want to look around anymore:

The course seems to be in pretty good condition. Today is pretty windy up here so some more drying may be taking place. Unfortunately, rain is in the forecast for the next couple of days but they do say "moderate" and "occasional."

The following holes are still sloppy either near the basket or along the fairway:
#1 (and walkway to #2)
#5
#8
#9
#12
#16

The wooded area between #5 and #6 is planned to become a pond. The frogs are making beautiful music. It's creeping toward the fairway on #5 and the "green" on #6. Stay right on #5 and left of the pin on #6.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: shawn on April 16, 2008, 04:06:18 PM
Thats stay right of pin on #6...  20ft left is wet...

For those not playing Sat. but are going to be in Kenoaha check out, kenoshabeerfest.com
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: SERG on April 17, 2008, 03:45:30 PM
You ruined my strategy, Shawn. Thanks alot.

OK, it's stay right of the pin on #6.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 05:05:35 PM
IOS #2 @ LOMBARD, IL course information is attached. A few holes that do not have long tees will have them now.

All Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2.

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A Mike Krupicka google map will be added soon.
Here it is.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.00000111c1e71ed8cff51&om=1&z=16
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: kcunning on April 24, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
Played 2 rounds out there today, really windy.

Is every division playing the long tees?

I'll have to start playing the longs to get ready for the tournament.  Should make it more challenging/interesting using those tees.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 24, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
Subject to anything Jon or Brett might say to the contrary, all divisions will play one round of shorts and one round of longs with one temporary extra hole. 
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: kcunning on April 24, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
Played 2 rounds out there today, really windy.

Is every division playing the long tees?

I'll have to start playing the longs to get ready for the tournament.  Should make it more challenging/interesting using those tees.

Yes,
All Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2. (Unless wet or raining)

Course map is posted on my last post as well as detailed hole by hole info.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on April 24, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
ruh row - I've never even played the longs!  I guess I better get out there so that I can defend my AM4 title lol :) (and hopefully suck a lot less than I did at Kenosha!)

<-- already afraid of hole 3.  Stupid long tee that is far from leftie friendly...  Going to have to go waaaay left.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Fox Metro Discer on April 24, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
Quote from: stpitner on April 24, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
ruh row - I've never even played the longs!  I guess I better get out there so that I can defend my AM4 title lol :) (and hopefully suck a lot less than I did at Kenosha!)

<-- already afraid of hole 3.  Stupid long tee that is far from leftie friendly...  Going to have to go waaaay left.

Get a forehand, man!!! :P
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on April 24, 2008, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: Fox Metro Discer on April 24, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
Quote from: stpitner on April 24, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
ruh row - I've never even played the longs!  I guess I better get out there so that I can defend my AM4 title lol :) (and hopefully suck a lot less than I did at Kenosha!)

<-- already afraid of hole 3.  Stupid long tee that is far from leftie friendly...  Going to have to go waaaay left.

Get a forehand, man!!! :P

I can't get anything more than a get out of trouble forehand because I don't want to have my elbow problem from pitching in little league resurface.  I feel twinges of it every time I tomahawk a disc.  I probably wouldn't have a problem tossing out a nice long anny, but I'd be afraid of it not flattening out, hitting the ground hard and then rolling right into the drink.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on April 25, 2008, 03:59:28 AM
A couple notes on the longs at Lombard if you go out to practice:
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: tjdub26936 on April 25, 2008, 06:18:53 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 07:24:50 PMAll Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2. (Unless wet or raining)

What's the reasoning behind shorts first, then longs?  That's the opposite of what we did at Kenosha.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 25, 2008, 06:30:43 AM
Quote from: tjdub26936 on April 25, 2008, 06:18:53 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 07:24:50 PMAll Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2. (Unless wet or raining)

What's the reasoning behind shorts first, then longs?  That's the opposite of what we did at Kenosha.

The shorts at Kenosha were much shorter cutting the time of the round drastically. We need to have time to calculate payouts and CTP's. This is the main reason.

Lombard plays pretty long from the shorts and the rounds won't be that much different since many holes only have 1 tee. It also gives time to evaluate the course and let it dry up in the morning so the grass tees are not wet. Mike Krupicka also has helped with modifying a spreadsheet for IOS payouts. It has cut the time down so I figured we go with the traditional shorts round 1 & longs round 2.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 25, 2008, 06:49:01 AM
I think the dew on the grass is a legit concern.  But I paid for the insurance, so if you change your mind and want to throw off dewy grass tees in the morning, we're covered.   ;D
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Chainmeister on April 25, 2008, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: stpitner on April 24, 2008, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: Fox Metro Discer on April 24, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
Quote from: stpitner on April 24, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
ruh row - I've never even played the longs!  I guess I better get out there so that I can defend my AM4 title lol :) (and hopefully suck a lot less than I did at Kenosha!)

<-- already afraid of hole 3.  Stupid long tee that is far from leftie friendly...  Going to have to go waaaay left.

Get a forehand, man!!! :P
I can't get anything more than a get out of trouble forehand because I don't want to have my elbow problem from pitching in little league resurface.  I feel twinges of it every time I tomahawk a disc.  I probably wouldn't have a problem tossing out a nice long anny, but I'd be afraid of it not flattening out, hitting the ground hard and then rolling right into the drink.
Get a dx driver that is not too stable since you are a lefty like me.  If you throw it straight you have more than enough distance to clear the water.  :icon_cheers: if you hyzer it you are only out a dx disc and life goes on.   :pottytrain5:
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 25, 2008, 08:46:12 AM
I learned how to throw lefthanded when I was 42.  Not a solution for this year, but you do have two arms.  I would think any Am 4 could get pretty good with the off-hand pretty quickly relative to how good they are with the go-to hand. 
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: DougEDawg on May 07, 2008, 10:54:31 AM
Are the longs the blue or the red tee markers?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on May 07, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
longs at Lombard are marked with blue.  The shorts are marked with red.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on May 07, 2008, 11:17:52 AM
If you use the google Map I created, you should be able to find most of the Blues. Keep in mind that there are some longs that we are playing that have no Blue markers, these include holes 1, 5, 9, 16, and 18. Consider these IOS specials. (I believe at this point the location for 18 long is still TBD).

Editted: For the IOS when we are playing the shorts, we are playing the cement (aka white) tees, not the reds.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on May 25, 2008, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 05:05:35 PM
IOS #2 @ LOMBARD, IL course information is attached. A few holes that do not have long tees will have them now.

All Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2.

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A Mike Krupicka google map will be added soon.
Here it is.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.00000111c1e71ed8cff51&om=1&z=16

Lombard Course info.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on May 30, 2008, 04:23:51 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 25, 2008, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 05:05:35 PM
IOS #2 @ LOMBARD, IL course information is attached. A few holes that do not have long tees will have them now.

All Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2.

To view attachments you must register an user name and login.

A Mike Krupicka google map will be added soon.
Here it is.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.00000111c1e71ed8cff51&om=1&z=16

Lombard Course info.

I will not be at the course tonight. Severe weather is in the forecast for pretty much the entire day today. Bruce might be there. I'm not positive about that.

We will play cement tees both rounds both days. Since I am not going to be at the course today I will not have time to flag & paint the long tees.

The weather looks great for Saturday & Sunday!
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on May 30, 2008, 07:10:56 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 30, 2008, 04:23:51 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 25, 2008, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 24, 2008, 05:05:35 PM
IOS #2 @ LOMBARD, IL course information is attached. A few holes that do not have long tees will have them now.

All Divisions
Shorts Rd 1.
Longs Rd 2.

To view attachments you must register an user name and login.

A Mike Krupicka google map will be added soon.
Here it is.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.00000111c1e71ed8cff51&om=1&z=16

Lombard Course info.

I will not be at the course tonight. Severe weather is in the forecast for pretty much the entire day today. Bruce might be there. I'm not positive about that.

We will play cement tees both rounds both days. Since I am not going to be at the course today I will not have time to flag & paint the long tees.

The weather looks great for Saturday & Sunday!

Brett,

I'm making score cards tonight so I can reflect the actual setup we will play. Is your course doc updated for distances to reflect only concrete tees for the second round? The words still say that we are playing flags but did you change the distances?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on May 30, 2008, 08:00:34 AM
Jon,

   I did not have time to work on the document this morning. Just take the Rd 1 Distances. Those are correct for the concrete tees that we'll play both rounds.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on May 30, 2008, 08:26:02 AM
If, for some reason, someone thinks we need to let more people play, it would be good to add space for two extra holes on the card.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: JCthrills on May 30, 2008, 12:22:53 PM
So no going over the pond 2nd round?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Mukey on May 30, 2008, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: JCthrills on May 30, 2008, 12:22:53 PM
So no going over the pond 2nd round?

If you're in my group 2nd round I'll let ya   ;)

But in all seriousness, not if we're playing all concrete tees both rounds
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on May 30, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: Mukey on May 30, 2008, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: JCthrills on May 30, 2008, 12:22:53 PM
So no going over the pond 2nd round?

If you're in my group 2nd round I'll let ya   ;)

But in all seriousness, not if we're playing all concrete tees both rounds

No throw across the water on #3. Concrete tees both rounds.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on May 30, 2008, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 30, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
No throw across the water on #3. Concrete tees both rounds.

speaking as a stinky AM4. woohoo :)

:happy3: :hello2: :happy3:
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: bigeric on June 02, 2008, 07:41:16 AM
Can somebody tell me what park IOS#3 is going to be at? I know it's in Crystal Lake but what park? Thanks
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on June 02, 2008, 07:45:25 AM
Lippold Park. Course info should be posted in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 02, 2008, 07:51:02 AM
Quote from: bigeric on June 02, 2008, 07:41:16 AM
Can somebody tell me what park IOS#3 is going to be at? I know it's in Crystal Lake but what park? Thanks

Here is a link to some pictures.
http://discontinuum.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1472

Mike sent me the google map. I have to check it over. I have to update the course info page as well. I'll try to get it done in the next couple of days. Summer school info is priority #1. Once that is done i'll start working on it.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 02, 2008, 02:24:17 PM
IOS #3 @ Crystal Lake

Here is the link to the Krupicka Google Map. Thanks Mike!
I need to add a 4th temp hole so there may be some tweaks. The permanent 18 are good.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.000001134454b2b184ffc&t=h&z=16


Earlier this year the Crystal Lake PD contacted me asking what they should do with $ for the course. I told them tee pads. They said they did not want to do concrete. I suggested ordering fly pads. Fred Vroman called me a little while ago & said they are starting to install them tomorrow. Hopefully all 18 will be in the groud for IOS #3 ;D.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Mukey on June 02, 2008, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on June 02, 2008, 02:24:17 PM
Earlier this year the Crystal Lake PD contacted me asking what they should do with $ for the course. I told them tee pads. They said they did not want to do concrete. I suggested ordering fly pads. Fred Vroman called me a little while ago & said they are starting to install them tomorrow. Hopefully all 18 will be in the groud for IOS #3 ;D.

Too bad about the concrete but the Fly Pads will still be a big improvement over what was there! That will be extra-special-good if they're in!!
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 02, 2008, 06:32:30 PM
Attached is the course info sheet.
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Mike,
Hole #22 will be that little hole that plays back to hole #1 near the entrance rd. It will be about 200ft will rope ob.


Bruce, Bring some rope.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.000001134454b2b184ffc&t=h&z=16

Here is a link to some pictures.
http://discontinuum.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1472
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on June 02, 2008, 06:38:09 PM
I added 22.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 04, 2008, 06:21:33 PM
For IOS #3 hole #21 will be placed on the dirt hill if it's still there and rain is not in the forecast. I have not been out the Crystal Lake since last summer.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 04, 2008, 06:24:06 PM
I'll try to remember the rope.  What hole? 
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 04, 2008, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on June 04, 2008, 06:24:06 PM
I'll try to remember the rope.  What hole? 

Hole 22. The Short hole near the parking lot leading to #1.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on June 05, 2008, 05:27:10 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on June 04, 2008, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on June 04, 2008, 06:24:06 PM
I'll try to remember the rope.  What hole? 

Hole 22. The Short hole near the parking lot leading to #1.

It's going to be a starburst shape with three long spokes coming off in boomerang shapes leading back to the tee. Re-tee on any OB shot. Bruce, Brett is going to need you to set up the rope so let us know if this makes sense. (I really just made that up...it just sounded funny to me. Picturing Bruce out there "OK, we need to start with a starburst...")
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 05, 2008, 06:13:13 AM
Aren't Starbursts usually square shaped?   :)
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on June 05, 2008, 08:01:15 AM
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on June 05, 2008, 06:13:13 AM
Aren't Starbursts usually square shaped?   :)

I was talking about a starburst shape, not a Starburst candy as in "Taste the rainbow!". A starburst shape is like an oval with a bunch of spikes coming out of it.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on June 05, 2008, 08:15:29 AM
maybe make a geodesic design for the OB on the ground similar to a bruce dyed disc :P
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on June 05, 2008, 08:32:54 AM
I like the idea of random stripes of out of bounds that are about two feet wide that you cannot see from the tee but are in places your disc will naturally roll to.  You know, like last year's Illinois State Championships. 
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on June 05, 2008, 09:03:50 AM
Just bring the hoola hoops. They can be sprinkled around by the basket.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 15, 2008, 01:45:54 PM
Got out to Crystal Lake this morning.

I did not get bit once by skeeters.

Fly Pads are nice. They did a good job of leveling them. The only disappointments I had were holes 7 & 9. There was an opportunity to lenghten both of them. #7 would have made a tougher slight hyzer angle and moved the tee pad away from that tree right off the left corner of the pad. Moving #9 back and center could have opened up a double fairway.

There is some water on the course but it wasn't as bad as I expected. The only place the water really affected play was around the basket of #5. I'll bring an extra basket next weekend in case the water is still high. It will be placed on one of the tree stumps to the right if that water is still there. Extended forecast is calling for a fairly dry week.

Hole #19. There is some fairly deep water to the left of the pin.
Hole #20. Do not throw in the tall grass. (3 minutes to locate disc).
Hole #21. You will have to throw across the water to the basket. There are bail out areas to the left or right. If the weather is good the basket will be moved farther basket to a more elevated area.
Hole #22. Rope OB.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 07, 2008, 07:59:10 AM
Course information for IOS #4 @ Aurora, IL

Round 1-> Shorts
Round 2-> Longs

See attached. Must register a user name and login to view attachments.

Mike Krupicka Google Map. Thanks Mike!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004370a6863066e9afb6&ll=41.738977,-88.384849&spn=0.005236,0.006223&t=h&z=17

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on July 07, 2008, 08:06:37 AM
The google map is updated to be short-long. A couple of things to note for the local folks.: On Hole 2, which is short and which is long is reverse to most people. Round 1 uses the North "long" tee. Round 2 uses the South "short" tee. On Hole 17/18: The basket for 17 will not be used, an alternate hole to the basket for 18 will be used.

Edit: Brett has "corrected" hole 2 and hole 17 and hole 18 will be played per normal course routing.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: can't putt on July 07, 2008, 08:57:23 AM
Just FYI, the entire course is completely dry, including 17 and 18 fairway.  I don't think there would be any problem playing 17 this year if so chosen.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on July 07, 2008, 09:13:37 AM
you guys sure you still want to do the swap on hole 2?  It might make it easier to just switch it and not cause the confusion that it did last year...  as much as we want to be naive and believe it, but not everyone listens at a players meeting :)
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Chainmeister on July 07, 2008, 09:24:25 AM
Quote from: stpitner on July 07, 2008, 09:13:37 AM
you guys sure you still want to do the swap on hole 2?  It might make it easier to just switch it and not cause the confusion that it did last year...  as much as we want to be naive and believe it, but not everyone listens at a players meeting :)

If its that confusing perhaps a sign can be put on the tees.  ie: "ROUND 1 TEE" and "ROUND 2 TEE" If I recall, they are basically twin tees that are a about 15 ft apart each going on the opposite side of a big tree. They are essentially the same distance.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on July 07, 2008, 09:26:36 AM
I don't know. Giving players two strokes for not paying attention at the players' meeting sounds good to me.  >:D ;D
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on July 07, 2008, 10:05:12 AM
I put out pink tape for the second round on the tee that we were NOT using. I'll do it both rounds this year.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on July 07, 2008, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on July 07, 2008, 07:59:10 AM
Course information for IOS #4 @ Aurora, IL

Round 1-> Shorts
Round 2-> Longs

See attached. Must register a user name and login to view attachments.

Mike Krupicka Google Map. Thanks Mike!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004370a6863066e9afb6&ll=41.738977,-88.384849&spn=0.005236,0.006223&t=h&z=17



I updated the attachment to my original post.

I think hole #2 debacle is now fixed. I have a hard time in my mind thinking of one of them being long and the other short. It's 190ft & 190ft. I do like the idea of paying attention to the printed materials and player meeting info. Ask Nikko how he liked the mando on his home course he didn't know about  ;D.

Hole 17 & 18 will be played as normal.

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on July 07, 2008, 03:16:48 PM
The Google Map is updated to reflect Hole 2 (south=short) and to play 17 & 18 normal.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: DiscCrazy on July 08, 2008, 06:35:32 AM
I might be wrong but I think hole 16 is backwards on the map.  It shows 16 basket and 15 basket right next to each other. I thought 16 basket was by 17 tee pad?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on July 08, 2008, 06:52:34 AM
Whoops. Hole 16 has been corrected. Thanks for letting me know.

btw The soccer field on hole 14 should be OB.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on August 20, 2008, 08:45:45 AM
IOS #5 Rockford Google Maps

East Course (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004345d95936c8b6e2e7&ll=42.307554,-89.146886&spn=0.005729,0.007918&t=h&z=17)
West Course (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004345dce93d9e3a99f7&t=h&z=17)
Temp Course (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.000454dac47b0b5b44635&t=h&z=16)

Note: Distances on temp course are approximate and subject to change.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: duain on August 20, 2008, 09:12:25 AM
Very nice maps, although hole ten on the west course should be moved south about 150ft and hole eleven on the west course is backwards. everything else is very accurate. nice work
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on August 20, 2008, 09:46:27 AM
I always get confused. I dont get out to Rockford that much. Is the West course the original course :huh:
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on August 20, 2008, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: duain on August 20, 2008, 09:12:25 AM
Very nice maps, although hole ten on the west course should be moved south about 150ft and hole eleven on the west course is backwards. everything else is very accurate. nice work

Corrected. West is the new course. East is the original course.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: JCthrills on August 20, 2008, 10:26:35 AM
Nice maps, being an out of towner I love these things.  They are my first look at courses I will pretty much play "blind" otherwise.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: duain on August 20, 2008, 11:12:01 AM
perfect, thanks mike for the hard work
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 25, 2008, 02:31:11 PM
Course update.
The temporary course will be marked by 12pm on Friday. All 18 rubber tee
pads and tee signs will be in place. The baskets will NOT be set up
Friday. All basket locations will be clearly marked and the course will be
open for practice at noon. If there are more than 3 pools there will be a practice area by the entrance of the park. There is plenty of room to throw and there will be a basket for putting.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: 4u2nv on August 26, 2008, 11:02:46 AM
To be honest the temp course looks the hardest with all the OB
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on August 28, 2008, 11:57:40 AM
For those with a color printer, here is an overall course map for Rockford.
(http://krupicka.org/discgolf/RockfordAll.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: duain on August 28, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
thats a job well done mike, i love to have maps like this to show people when im describing the course to them. thanks
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: El Mexicano on August 28, 2008, 02:21:19 PM
Awesome job! ;D
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: airspuds on September 01, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
great map

where are the footages

google maps  ?

i like the big pic

best place to park will be where ?

arriving around 12 on friday




SCORE CARD  AVAILABLE HERE


Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 01, 2008, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: airspuds on September 01, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
great map

where are the footages

google maps  ?

i like the big pic

best place to park will be where ?

arriving around 12 on friday




SCORE CARD  AVAILABLE HERE




All of that info will be supplied in your player handbook.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: airspuds on September 02, 2008, 05:20:43 AM
cool

i was going to add to the score card

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 02, 2008, 06:14:06 AM
Parking is in the parking lot and on the outside of the loop drive. 
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: duain on September 02, 2008, 05:55:24 PM
hopefully people park with consideration that alot of cars have to park in that area, and hopefully they dont take up a spot and a half because they want room to sit next to their vehicle while they wait for tee off.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2008, 08:14:28 PM
Knowing the Rockford Park District they will have a traffic cop out there to ensure all parking is kosher.

Another thing that will help is if you're sharing a hotel room / campsite / whatever is to carpool!
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: duain on September 02, 2008, 08:17:40 PM
agreed carpooling is helpful
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 02, 2008, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: mirth on September 02, 2008, 08:14:28 PM
Knowing the Rockford Park District they will have a traffic cop out there to ensure all parking is kosher.

Another thing that will help is if you're sharing a hotel room / campsite / whatever is to carpool!

They won't know until the weekend if we get a dedicated officer or not. For sure there will be Rockford Park District Police presence. Last year the guy was there pretty much all day. Which is what I like. As a TD it's nice to know that if something goes horribly wrong (like a fist fight) that help is right there.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Tom Skilling on September 02, 2008, 10:23:07 PM
The forecast looks promising for the weekend!!
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: jimklem on September 03, 2008, 06:22:38 AM
LOL!

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Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: stpitner on September 03, 2008, 06:42:37 AM
anything is better than what an IOS @ Rockford typically offers - mid-upper 90's and tons of humidity.  Yay for not in July and yay for a cooler summer!  I barely made it through two years ago, last year I was more prepared.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on October 01, 2008, 07:33:35 PM
IOS #6 Google Map. (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004579029d344e7db9a6&t=h&z=17")
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 02, 2008, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: pickax on October 01, 2008, 07:33:35 PM
IOS #6 Google Map. (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109692845228533224709.0004579029d344e7db9a6&t=h&z=17")

Nice map, thanks Mike! One question though...isn't 14A basket further to the west? I could be entirely wrong, that's just what I was remembering.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 02, 2008, 11:07:27 AM
Oh, and 11A will be hole "A" on the score port and score card. 14A will be hole "B" on the score port and score card.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Tom McManus on October 02, 2008, 11:23:17 AM
When did Jeffrey Dahmer join DISContinuum?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on October 02, 2008, 11:55:43 AM
Placing the holes in the woods is a challenge. There was an opening in the tree canopy over 14A, which is what I based the location on for the map. I updated 11A to be called A and 14A to be called B.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2008, 07:03:52 PM
Attached is the course info sheet. You must register an user name & login to view attachments.

Some changes from last year.
I plan on using the 6 rubber tee pads on holes 1, 6, 10, 11, 12, & 18.
There will be no out of bounds on B (14A)

Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on October 09, 2008, 07:33:34 PM
I think you mean B (14A). I thought that OB made that hole quite challenging. The google map has been updated.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2008, 07:40:27 PM
Quote from: pickax on October 09, 2008, 07:33:34 PM
I think you mean B (14A). I thought that OB made that hole quite challenging. The google map has been updated.

It definitley made it much tougher. I am out of gas and don't want to mess around with the rope back there. I spend a few hours last year getting it set up and i'm not motivated in doing so this year.

I plan on using paint left over from Rockford around the swamp on 12/18. I don't think i'll have enough for that hole.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 09, 2008, 07:43:37 PM
Addition.

The tee pads are pretty bad on many holes. Depending on the weather leading up to the weekend and the forecast for the weekend several of the tees may be slightly moved. If there is water on the tee pads they will be moved to the grass.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: thedraphter on October 16, 2008, 07:54:54 AM
Mike,

Great Job on the map...again....All of your maps have been top notch this year, and it is really, really appreciated.

One question though....I'm trying to plan out some of my shot selection in advance (knowing that wind and other factors will adjust things a little).  Is there a way to show approximate OB on the Google map?  or can I get a discription of what it was like, using landmarks that are on the map?  I know that the OB may be different than what is on the map, but approximates are fine.

Brett, or anyone else for that matter, feel free to describe what OB is like also

Thanks for any help,
DaveO
PDGA #33544
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Jon Brakel on October 16, 2008, 08:00:46 AM
Dave, all the OB is on the course info sheet in this thread. That's what Brett reads from when he does the player's meeting.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: thedraphter on October 16, 2008, 08:08:54 AM
I'm looking for more specifics....I can't tell what the swampy part is from a google map...though I think I have a pretty good guess, but I also don't have a clue as to the rope OB on 'A' either.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on October 16, 2008, 08:13:58 AM
No one will know what the OB on A looks like until that morning. I marked the OB swamp on 12 on the google map.
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: thedraphter on October 16, 2008, 08:43:49 AM
Thanks Mike.....I hope that we are somehow both on the lead card in Intermediate ;D , and that we both tie for first, :D then i beat you in a playoff...... >:D
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on October 16, 2008, 08:46:24 AM
Looks like your dreams keep getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger. :)
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 16, 2008, 08:47:18 AM
If Jon and Brett don't mind, I might put up some yellow rope on hole 1, also.  It would be a very simple concept.   >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: tree on October 16, 2008, 10:38:28 AM
Where would you put the rope on hole 1?
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: pickax on October 16, 2008, 10:43:33 AM
Right about where I will land. :D

I say, "Bring on the yellow rope. I ain't no yellow-bellied chucker."
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 16, 2008, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: tree on October 16, 2008, 10:38:28 AM
Where would you put the rope on hole 1?
I'd make the tall grass o.b.!   :o  >:D  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES COURSE INFORMATION
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 16, 2008, 08:21:50 PM
With no rain in the forecast for the weekend i've changed a few things.

These holes will have rubber tee pads.
1, 5, A (11A), 12, B (14A), & 18.

#1 has room to throw to the right on the limestone.
#5 was moved back behind the tee pad making it approx 25 feet longer. You can throw from the tee pad or grass.
#A (11A) You can throw from the tee pad or dirt.
#11 does not have a rubber tee pad but it has been marked about 10 feet back on the flat part of the tee pad.
#12 is laid in the center of the tee pad.
#B (14A) will be a rubber tee pad only. Not enough room for rubber/dirt tee.
#18 will be rubber tee only with it moved back about 10 feet.

The swamp on 12 & 18 has a paint line around it.
Both drop zones on 12 & 18 have been painted.