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Disc Golf Related => Illinois Open Series => Topic started by: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 03:18:05 PM

Title: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 03:18:05 PM
IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008

Check for course information->
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3844.0


Current list of preregistered competitors.

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844

Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: kyle on March 27, 2008, 07:06:33 PM
Has registration started yet? Just want to make sure before I send a check off to Mirth.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: mirth on March 31, 2008, 01:24:40 PM
Send in your check. I hope to get prereg up for IOS#1 tonight.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: SERG on March 31, 2008, 08:19:44 PM
WET! WET! WET!

With just about three weeks to tourney time it's not looking very promising to be a dry course. I think it will be safe to assume some deep water between holes 5 and 6.

Keeping baskets away from tournament positions until the week before will probably be best to preserve the course layout.

Looking forward to my first tourney of the year.

Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: kyle on March 31, 2008, 08:35:35 PM
I hope it dries up a bit more, but if it keeps raining like it did today we're going to need canoes to get around.

This is very likely the last time we'll see a few of the holes in sanctioned play, so I may actually play both days.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on March 31, 2008, 09:59:50 PM
Just a reminder, on Saturday three divisions play: Open Pro, Am 2 (Intermediate, Under 935) and Am 4 (Novice, Under 850).  On Sunday ALL other divisions play, including all the gender and age restricted divisions.  Let me see if i can find a trophy disc to show y'all:

(http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2008/02/20-2015166024T.jpg) (http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=1983131)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: shawn on April 01, 2008, 04:13:13 PM
Thanks in advance for answers to my questions... 

Placements of baskets?

Safari  holes? 

Is Advance is playing long or short tees.... both??

Why am I missing so many 12ft putts?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 01, 2008, 05:24:57 PM
IOS #1 course routing is here:
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3844.0
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: bigeric on April 02, 2008, 07:27:52 PM
Is the course even playable as it sits now with the wetness?  I'd really like to play this tourny but I've never played there (about 2hrs from me), and I want to go up there to practice at least once before it.  Or I guess what I should ask is, is this course playable in a tournament your first time there?  I don't want to do that but it might just be the case.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 02, 2008, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: shawn on April 01, 2008, 04:13:13 PM
Thanks in advance for answers to my questions... 

Placements of baskets?

Safari  holes? 

Is Advance is playing long or short tees.... both??

Why am I missing so many 12ft putts?
1.  Brett and Serge work that out. 
2.  Probably some temp holes but see #1.
3.  Probably long/long for advanced and pros, long/short for intermediate and recs, short/short for novice, amateur women, juniors, but see #1. 
4.  You're an amateur.  You play casual rounds but you don't practice.  Me too. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 02, 2008, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: krupicka on April 01, 2008, 05:24:57 PM
IOS #1 course routing is here:
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3844.0

Here you go Bruce.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: damonshort on April 02, 2008, 09:02:06 PM
Quote from: bigeric on April 02, 2008, 07:27:52 PM
Is the course even playable as it sits now with the wetness?  I'd really like to play this tourny but I've never played there (about 2hrs from me), and I want to go up there to practice at least once before it.  Or I guess what I should ask is, is this course playable in a tournament your first time there?  I don't want to do that but it might just be the case.

The 'locals' (Serg, Shawn, etc.) can speak to the current conditions, but it's wet everywhere right now. Beyond that, I'd say Parkside is easily the best course within 90 mi of Chicago. (You can argue for Rockford [is that within 90 mi?], but I like Parkside better. Maybe because I usually play Parkside better. But I digress....)

Parkside is fun to play in any of its several pin positions; relatively easy from the short pads (although IOS will have many of the longer baskets, so it's not all that easy), but very challenging from the longs. But always fair and ultimately rewarding to play. Even if you play the course 'cold' you won't regret it.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 02, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
I play all the IOS courses cold.  If I'm lucky, I get in a round on Friday.  If you play disc golf, there is nothing on an IOS course that you've never seen before, with one or two exceptions.  Maybe you have not seen the elevated basket hole.  Lay up, o.k.?  Or take nine putts if you are playing in my division. 

When I want to practice for an IOS, I just practice.  I putt.  I go to Holly to throw tight lines.  I go to Firefighters to practice throwing 200 to 300 at baskets with obstacles in between.  You don't have to go out to Kenosha to learn how to play disc golf.

Every year our April, May, and June venues are flooded out on the message board.  Every year they are just fine when we actually play them.  Not sure how that works.   :D
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Mukey on April 03, 2008, 08:21:14 AM
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on April 02, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Every year our April, May, and June venues are flooded out on the message board.  Every year they are just fine when we actually play them.  Not sure how that works.   :D

It's gotta be the beard   ;D

BTW, if anyone wants to Carpool from the Downers Grove area for Sunday I'm down to pay $ towards gas & food, just PM me
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 03, 2008, 08:26:22 AM
I think I will be up there both days and stay some place local Saturday night.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 03, 2008, 08:46:33 AM
Like pretty much any course in the flat part of the world this time of the year, Parkside is one rainstorm away from being flooded and two sunny, breezy days from being dry. From what I here right now it is a little mushy all around with a few large puddles between some of the holes. Probably a lot like most everyone's back yard right now. But after this dry sunny weekend it will probably be a lot dryer. Hard to say what it will be like in a few weeks.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 03, 2008, 08:51:31 AM
I highly recommend getting a pair of waterproof boots if you are disc golfing regularly. They are great for soggy springs, morning dews in the summer, etc. Dry feet are happy feet.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: bigeric on April 03, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I will probably end up being there.  I'm hoping there is going to be a sweet players handbook for this course like there was at the Irish tourny.  :mellow:
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 03, 2008, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: bigeric on April 03, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I will probably end up being there.  I'm hoping there is going to be a sweet players handbook for this course like there was at the Irish tourny.  :mellow:

Here is the course info link. The attached document to the first post will be the only information avaliable.
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3844.0

Player books are sweet. They are not easy to make and time consuming to get accurate measurements. #1 reason is cost. If there was free printing this might be an option.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Mukey on April 03, 2008, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: bigeric on April 03, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I will probably end up being there.  I'm hoping there is going to be a sweet players handbook for this course like there was at the Irish tourny.  :mellow:

OBs & the like will usually be given to us at the players meeting, just make sure you're not next to the idiot talking who wants OB strokes so you can listen & you should be all good!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 05, 2008, 05:41:59 PM
How to practice for Kenosha  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 07, 2008, 12:05:07 AM
I think i'll work in the Innova sponsorship the same way i do with discraft, with Throw Innova player packs, this time.  I'm also going to do some cool dyed stuff on Innova Star.  It will be priced up because that stuff is time consuming and there's the expense of getting the mask cut.  The player pack will make that stuff very affordable.  If anyone has any special requests for Yoda, Vader, Angry Cub, Bear, Classic Cubs, Chief, Brewers, Stevie Ray, etc., now's the time to shout out. 

Quote from: Bruce Brakel on March 31, 2008, 09:59:50 PM
Just a reminder, on Saturday three divisions play: Open Pro, Am 2 (Intermediate, Under 935) and Am 4 (Novice, Under 850).  On Sunday ALL other divisions play, including all the gender and age restricted divisions.  Let me see if i can find a trophy disc to show y'all:

(http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2008/02/20-2015166024T.jpg) (http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=1983131)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 07, 2008, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: Mukey on April 03, 2008, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: bigeric on April 03, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I will probably end up being there.  I'm hoping there is going to be a sweet players handbook for this course like there was at the Irish tourny.  :mellow:

OBs & the like will usually be given to us at the players meeting, just make sure you're not next to the idiot talking who wants OB strokes so you can listen & you should be all good!   :thumbsup:

I'm going to try to put Brett's course info on the back of the score cards. I'll be doing those this week so I'll let you know how they turn out.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 07, 2008, 12:33:10 PM
Both pages are rolling on the PDGA Tour Page.  Also, i'm not 100% on this but i'm sure Sergio can answer this. I belive this is going to be the last tournament using the original 18 holes. Once construction starts several holes will be eliminated. Is that correct Serg?

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844


Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: SERG on April 07, 2008, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 07, 2008, 12:33:10 PM
...this is going to be the last tournament using the original 18 holes. Once construction starts several holes will be eliminated...

This will be the last PDGA SANCTIONED event using the original 18 holes.

There are talks of an informal gathering to bid the original course farewell. I'll post if we decide upon something.

We still don't have a specific date that holes will be removed and others installed. Mother nature needs to begin to cooperate.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: bigeric on April 08, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
Sent in my pre-registration along with one for a friend, really looking forward to this tournament, I've only heard good things about this course. ;D
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 09, 2008, 07:14:32 AM
If anyone is playing both days and wants to camp with us, if you have an RV or a conversion van or just a van with the back seats out, we know a couple of good Camp Walamartas that are cool with overnight guests in the parking lot. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: bigeric on April 09, 2008, 11:38:15 PM
Can anybody tell me what positions the baskets are going to be on for this tourny. A or B?  I'm looking through the picture gallery for the course and noticed they have 2 basket positions.. any info will be very helpful thanks.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 10, 2008, 05:50:41 AM
Quote from: bigeric on April 09, 2008, 11:38:15 PM
Can anybody tell me what positions the baskets are going to be on for this tourny. A or B?  I'm looking through the picture gallery for the course and noticed they have 2 basket positions.. any info will be very helpful thanks.

Check out the doc in Brett's first post in the following thread: http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3844.msg52761#msg52761

Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 10, 2008, 07:41:04 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 18, 2008, 03:18:05 PM
IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008

Check for course information->
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3844.0


Current list of preregistered competitors.

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844

Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876

Course info.
Preregistered list.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 10, 2008, 08:01:42 AM
I'll be checking the pre-reg list this weekend and doing the micro-division trophies.  I'm not any good at getting trophies done after the tournament, so I'm not doing that this year.  I might carry some generic trophy discs that say something like, "Juniors - First Place," but neglect to say at what tournament.  For adult divisions, one of you guys should just pre-register if you play in a micro-division and no one has pre-registered yet. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 10, 2008, 08:14:43 AM
Just a reminder in case people missed it. The temp holes will have fly pads for tee pads.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: kyle on April 10, 2008, 10:31:08 AM
Mailed my pre-reg and club membership $$ this past Saturday.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: skipache on April 10, 2008, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 10, 2008, 08:14:43 AM
Just a reminder in case people missed it. The temp holes will have fly pads for tee pads.

thanks! that will be helpfull for sure
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: damonshort on April 12, 2008, 09:40:37 AM
So what's the IOS stance (pardon the expression) on the towel under the knee question?  (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=816808&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 12, 2008, 10:55:41 AM
The artificial devices rule allows you to use a towel to control abrasion to the skin.  The Building a Lie FAQ recognizes that the Artificial Devices rule applies to any lie-building situation.  There is nothing in the rules or the FAQs that would prevent using a towel under your knee if it is to control abrasion.  It is no different from having a shoe on your foot. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 12, 2008, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on April 12, 2008, 10:55:41 AM
The artificial devices rule allows you to use a towel to control abrasion to the skin.  The Building a Lie FAQ recognizes that the Artificial Devices rule applies to any lie-building situation.  There is nothing in the rules or the FAQs that would prevent using a towel under your knee if it is to control abrasion.  It is no different from having a shoe on your foot. 

I second that, so that must be the official IOS stance on towels used as shoes for your knees.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 12, 2008, 02:49:33 PM
From John Chapman:
Quote
Folks,

We're pretty close to hammering this out. We've been talking about it for several weeks. Be patient....there should be a couple of new Q&A's up in the next couple of days.

The gist of the Q&A's will be that you cannot move obstacles on the course (sticks, rocks, etc..) and place them on your lie to build a stance, but you can place a towel or small pad behind your lie to prevent abrasions, etc (but not under your foot, since it's already covered by a shoe, except on the tee). We should have the exact wording out soon.

Chap

Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: damonshort on April 12, 2008, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: krupicka on April 12, 2008, 02:49:33 PM
From John Chapman:
Quote
Folks,

We're pretty close to hammering this out. We've been talking about it for several weeks. Be patient....there should be a couple of new Q&A's up in the next couple of days.

The gist of the Q&A's will be that you cannot move obstacles on the course (sticks, rocks, etc..) and place them on your lie to build a stance, but you can place a towel or small pad behind your lie to prevent abrasions, etc (but not under your foot, since it's already covered by a shoe, except on the tee). We should have the exact wording out soon.

Chap

yeah, I saw that, but the wording in the 'current' Q&A (I wish they'd put dates on those things) indicates something different, so I thought I'd ask...

Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 13, 2008, 05:51:35 PM
Registration is starting to heat up just like the weather is supposed to be next weekend. Save $5.00. PreRegister. Any mail ins have not been entered yet. I'm awaiting to get those to upload.

http://store.discontinuum.org/product_info.php?products_id=98&osCsid=947f9cd9806e0e5c8d28de970bb4bdb5

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844


Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 13, 2008, 09:42:13 PM
I've got Am Grand, Juniors Under 16, and Intermediate Women trophy discs under way. 

I did Am Masters and Pro Masters without pre-reg.  I can always dye out the trophy information later if these divisions don't show up. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 14, 2008, 04:36:53 AM
Quote from: Silicon Avatar on April 12, 2008, 02:22:16 PM
I second that, so that must be the official IOS stance on towels used as shoes for your knees.

Not to derail this tourney thread, but the PDGA Rules Committee has issued a new Q&A (http://www.pdga.com/rule_casebook.php) regarding towels (they are now allowed for any body part other than your feet). They also added a new rule defining small pad: leave your fluffy spa towels at home.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 14, 2008, 06:07:18 AM
It is nice to see I was right all along.   ;)  Probably even your big fluffy towel is going to squish down to less than a cm, but who in the US knows how big a cm is? 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: tacimala on April 14, 2008, 08:43:56 AM
So then now using a towel to stand on when putting on ice is now illegal? I carried a beach towel with me all winter long and pretty much anytime it wasn't solid footing I'd lay that down like a magic carpet. Now illegal except on the teepad?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 14, 2008, 09:33:09 AM
I don't think you'll have to worry about ice this weekend in Kenosha, but yes, standing on a towel (other than the teepad) is illegal. Many would argue that it has always been that way. Just invest in some crampons for next winter  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 15, 2008, 08:41:22 PM
The prereg has warmed up over the past day to keep pace with this sweet weather!

Next update to the prereg list will be tomorrow night.


Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844


Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: damonshort on April 15, 2008, 09:05:08 PM
Brett, I think you've got Adrian Jr's PDGA # there instead of Senior's.....  ;)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 15, 2008, 09:12:08 PM
And Senior's number for Junior's on the other day. 

Thanks for updating the pre-reg.  We finished the straggler trophy discs tonight and did some other stuff.  I heat set a Darkside Force and came within minutes of overcooking it.  It came out really nice. 

I think this is the year Kelsey will beat Barrett at a tournament.  She's beaten me twice in a row on Cass Benton longs.  Tonight I beat her by 3 in the big D part of the course and then she beat me by 4 in the accuracy part. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 15, 2008, 09:15:28 PM
Also, the divisional plan seems to be working well to split the field 50/50.  I'm surprised by the absence of an am master field, but in 2001 when they started using ratings breaks on the main am divisions I thought the age based divisions would wither away.  Looks like there are four or five masters and grand masters playing intermediate. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: mirth on April 16, 2008, 05:10:46 AM
So then when does Kelsey turn pro?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 16, 2008, 06:05:35 AM
Right after Kira. :)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: tree on April 16, 2008, 06:28:51 AM
LOL!! It's the truth :)
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 16, 2008, 08:36:02 AM
Quote from: mirth on April 16, 2008, 05:10:46 AM
So then when does Kelsey turn pro?
She's 18 now, so she can turn pro whenever she wants.  She likes playing in large divisions.  She likes playing with people she has not played against before.  I think she'll stay am for awhile.  But she also likes money, so she might change her mind someday.  Someday when pro women make money! 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: damonshort on April 16, 2008, 09:22:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on April 15, 2008, 09:15:28 PM
Also, the divisional plan seems to be working well to split the field 50/50.  I'm surprised by the absence of an am master field, but in 2001 when they started using ratings breaks on the main am divisions I thought the age based divisions would wither away.  Looks like there are four or five masters and grand masters playing intermediate. 
last yr @ Kenosha I think there were 5 or 6 am GM and *no* am masters. I imagine you'll get some on Sunday. I've got a conflict this Sunday so I can only play one day this year.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 16, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
Score cards are made and they have Brett's routing information on the back. I printed almost 400 registration cards today. Tomorrow I get to cut them!!!  O0
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 05:17:55 AM
I updated the list this morning before leaving for work. Next update to the prereg list will be tonight. Preregistration closes around noon on Friday.


Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844


Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876

Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: dana on April 17, 2008, 06:50:50 PM
How many half-ins are registered in open (but im curious about other divisions as well)?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: dana on April 17, 2008, 06:50:50 PM
How many half-ins are registered in open (but im curious about other divisions as well)?

4 in Open.
4 in Intermediate.
1 in Novice.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: djchill on April 17, 2008, 07:01:03 PM
Brett for sun you have matt stratura  located in FL and on sat its his real home town how come that is like that  Jim
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 07:01:47 PM
Quote from: djchill on April 17, 2008, 07:01:03 PM
Brett for sun you have matt stratura  located in FL and on sat its his real home town how come that is like that  Jim

I actually just noticed that. I'll update prior to going to bed tonight.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 07:26:47 PM
I will update  the list before leaving for work Friday morning. Right now there are 107 total players registered. Preregistration closes around noon on Friday. If you don't preregister get there early!

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844

Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876

Current 2008 DISContinuum Club Members.
DISContinuum will be adding some CTP's both days to current club members. Here is what they are. Thank you for the support!

4->$10.00 Brass CTP's
1-> Huk Lab Chair
1-> 2008 DISContinuum Club Membership to anyone who has never been a club member.

Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 17, 2008, 08:28:04 PM
I know the Brakel girls are both 1/2-in.  The rest I don't know.

Just a quick review of 1/2-In rules:

If half-in players cash, their other half is paid to the full ins who finished in the cash. 

The cash bumps up, not down.  No cash drops below the cash line. 

Half-in amateurs can take prizes in lieu of cash and stay amateur. 



Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 07:26:47 PM
Current 2008 DISContinuum Club Members.
DISContinuum will be adding some CTP's both days to current club members. Here is what they are. Thank you for the support!

4->$10.00 Brass CTP's
1-> Huk Lab Chair
1-> 2008 DISContinuum Club Membership to anyone who has never been a club member.



I want to clarify that DISContinuum is adding these for currrent members and they are not taking away from payouts. These CTP's will be awarded Round #1 both Saturday and Sunday. Good luck!
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: tacimala on April 17, 2008, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 07:26:47 PM
Current 2008 DISContinuum Club Members.
DISContinuum will be adding some CTP's both days to current club members. Here is what they are. Thank you for the support!

4->$10.00 Brass CTP's
1-> Huk Lab Chair
1-> 2008 DISContinuum Club Membership to anyone who has never been a club member.



I want to clarify that DISContinuum is adding these for currrent members and they are not taking away from payouts. These CTP's will be awarded Round #1 both Saturday and Sunday. Good luck!

So just to be fair, the last one is for NON members and the other 5 CTP's are for current members? Just another great incentive to join for those that aren't!
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 17, 2008, 11:24:19 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 05:17:55 AM
I updated the list this morning before leaving for work. Next update to the prereg list will be tonight. Preregistration closes around noon on Friday.


Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844


Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876



I thought online registration for 2008 was closing Thursday night?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: mirth on April 18, 2008, 07:17:52 AM
It ends at noon per the prereg page on the club store. Online and mail in prereg will close about 5 days early for IOS2 due to me going to Jamaica the week of IOS2. Other tournaments online prereg I think will close Thursday night at 11:59PM. Haven't made up my mind on that yet.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 18, 2008, 07:40:56 AM
Quote from: tacimala on April 17, 2008, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on April 17, 2008, 07:26:47 PM
Current 2008 DISContinuum Club Members.
DISContinuum will be adding some CTP's both days to current club members. Here is what they are. Thank you for the support!

4->$10.00 Brass CTP's
1-> Huk Lab Chair
1-> 2008 DISContinuum Club Membership to anyone who has never been a club member.



I want to clarify that DISContinuum is adding these for currrent members and they are not taking away from payouts. These CTP's will be awarded Round #1 both Saturday and Sunday. Good luck!

So just to be fair, the last one is for NON members and the other 5 CTP's are for current members? Just another great incentive to join for those that aren't!

That is correct Taylor. The membership is for NON members however they must be someone who has never been a member before.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 18, 2008, 07:51:11 AM
I'll add these later tonight.
Taylor Cimala  Advanced #30371
Spike Walker Pro Masters #7001
Larry Kempen Open #18764
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: dana on April 18, 2008, 09:09:32 AM
I better win that.  If I dont, how about you sponsor me in, Taylor?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Dennis Miller on April 18, 2008, 09:42:32 AM
I registered online last night.  Hope that is OK.

Dennis Miller #17960 Intermediate.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: mirth on April 18, 2008, 10:06:40 AM
Dennis - you're all good.

and on that subject.....

PREREGISTRATION FOR IOS1 IS CLOSED!
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: discpro99 on April 18, 2008, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: mirth on April 18, 2008, 10:06:40 AM
Dennis - you're all good.

and on that subject.....

PREREGISTRATION FOR IOS1 IS CLOSED!
i sent in mike porto's pre reg this morning around 10:30am thru the club store. you get that Mirth?
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: mirth on April 18, 2008, 10:19:52 AM
Justin - Yes indeedily doodily!
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: mirth on April 18, 2008, 10:25:14 AM
Fun IOS1 prereg facts -

Saturday Prereg # 58. Current pro purse before PDGA fees and whatnot - $965.Current pro field - 24. Current Intermediate field - 24. Current Novice field - 12.

Sunday Prereg # 60. Current Open Women purse before fees and stuff - $67. Current Open Women - 2. Masters purse - $90. Masters - 2. Grandmasters purse - $45. Grandmasters - 1. 2 Advanced Grandmasters. 25 Advanced. 4 Intermediate Women. 1 JR < 16. 23 Recreational.

Total non-PDGA members across both days - 6.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Tom McManus on April 18, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
At 2:30 PM on Friday April 18 the temp tee pads are in place and the temp basket locations are marked. There are also 15 more prereg players that are going to be added to the list that Brett received while on the course.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 18, 2008, 05:46:55 PM
Last update is done!
WOW! Get there early and get in line if you want to play. 65 registered for each day.

Saturday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844

Sunday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: dana on April 18, 2008, 08:18:41 PM
I finally talked Steve Dobrinski into going!  He will be playing his first event as a PDGA member.  Hopefully he gets up there early enough...

Thanks to the IOS Crew and Discontinuum for their hard work! 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 19, 2008, 05:44:35 PM
Today's results are up.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7844&year=2008&includeRatings=1#Open
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 19, 2008, 07:15:46 PM
72 have pre-registered for Sunday.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 20, 2008, 07:07:41 PM
What an awesome weekend!  The weather was fantasctic both days. Thanks to everyone who played.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Dan Michler on April 20, 2008, 07:17:00 PM
Fun times both days with the weather and good course conditions.  Hole 18a was a good one this year.  I went OB on my 2nd shot in all 4 of my rounds.  You would think I'd be able to learn after the 1st 3 times.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: DiscCrazy on April 20, 2008, 08:06:32 PM
Great job to all that ran this tournament and thank you to all the volunteers. I had a great time today. I would have liked to shot a little better but still was a great day. Thanks everyone!! Looking forward to IOS #2
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 20, 2008, 08:23:38 PM
Sunday results are up. http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7876&year=2008&includeRatings=1#Open%20Women

Thanks to everyone who came out to play and everyone that came out to help. We had a great time as always. The course looked great. Don't forget that the brass expires at the end of this year.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: damonshort on April 20, 2008, 09:28:06 PM
How windy was it up there on Sunday? I thought the scores on Saturday in general were a bit high, even for the pros, esp. considering it was practically dead calm. Looks like the rounds rated about 16 pts higher on Sunday.

Thanks again to Brett, the Brakels and the rest of the IOS staff for another well-run event. You've set a high standard for tournaments around here and your efforts ARE appreciated by many!!
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: JCthrills on April 20, 2008, 09:28:56 PM
Thanks for the great tourney, very well run.  Worth every bit of the 700 mile round trip. See ya @ IOS #2.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 21, 2008, 05:48:42 AM
Quote from: damonshort on April 20, 2008, 09:28:06 PM
How windy was it up there on Sunday? I thought the scores on Saturday in general were a bit high, even for the pros, esp. considering it was practically dead calm. Looks like the rounds rated about 16 pts higher on Sunday.

Thanks again to Brett, the Brakels and the rest of the IOS staff for another well-run event. You've set a high standard for tournaments around here and your efforts ARE appreciated by many!!

It was gusty and it was costing people strokes on putts on hole 8 and on OB on the holes by roads etc.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: pickax on April 21, 2008, 06:02:09 AM
I know I shot 4's on 18A on Saturday and 5's on Sunday. It was definitely windier.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Schwinn2 on April 21, 2008, 06:49:40 AM
Thanks to the Brakels and all the volunteers for another well-run event.  Awesome job getting the scores up on the PDGA right away.  Mukey missed a great chance to beat me.  I still had fun, and it's great to finally be back on the course playing again.  Ben has decided that the "Schwinn" t-shirt is bad luck, and he's officially retiring it.  After he changed at the break, his  round rating changed by 100 points. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 21, 2008, 07:25:06 AM
I thought the 700 mile round trip was worth it too.  We pulled in around 4:30 a.m. and I was in bed by 5:00.  The ride home was smooth sailing after we got off the Edens.  If you're willing to pay the $10, you pretty much have the Skyway all to yourself now-a-days.  Maybe it's $7 for the Lexuses and BMWs.  It's $10 if you pull a one-axle trailer. 

UWParkside has [soon to be "had"] one of the best flat land courses I've ever seen.  I always enjoy that course even if I don't play so well sometimes.  [I think the scores reflect that the more responsibility you feel for a tournament, the worse you play at a tournament you are responsible for.]  We will have many fond memories of that course after it is ruined by campus expansion. 

On behalf of the Waterford Junior Girls' Club, the Waterford Brakels would like to thank all the players and non-players who bought a disc for cash.  Nothing says thank you as much as when you pull out your wallet and spend $12 on an ESP or Z disc or a hat or t-shirt.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Mukey on April 21, 2008, 07:39:17 AM
Quote from: Schwinn2 on April 21, 2008, 06:49:40 AM
Mukey missed a great chance to beat me.

Woulda been the 1st

Will definetly be at the remainder of the IOS events, especially after Brett's post
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: bigeric on April 21, 2008, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks to everyone for running a spectacular tournament.  This was my first trip up to UW Parkside, and the course was just awesome. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: CEValkyrie on April 21, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: bigeric on April 21, 2008, 08:53:40 AM
Thanks to everyone for running a spectacular tournament.  This was my first trip up to UW Parkside, and the course was just awesome. 

Big Eric,

  Great meeting you this weekend. Glad you enjoyed the course. The Parkside crew does a fantastic job upkeeping that course.

Take care!
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Tom McManus on April 21, 2008, 07:02:44 PM
Thanks to Jon for getting the scores up so quickly. Thanks to Serg for taking care of tags. Thanks to Serg and Dave  and all the other great staff and volunteers for getting Parkside in such great condition. Thanks to Brett for the alternate holes. 18A was great. Thanks to Bruce and the women for having so much great merchandise available.

It was a great two days, 181 players and a bunch of new DISContinuum Club Members. (Sorry about the high number Rob.)

Congrats to Scott Burtard for the open win and for back to back wins in one weekend.

Congrats to Schumann from going DFL at the Wisconsin Tour Warm Up to first at IOS #1.

Special thanks to Aaron and Dave for helping me out and to Mike Clark and Adrian Sr. for always lending a helping hand.

There are many people that help to make events run smoothly. There are many hours of hard work that go into making an event run smoothly.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Jon Brakel on April 21, 2008, 07:25:07 PM
And thanks to Mike Krupicka. Mike has become an invaluable resource around tournament central and has now written this great spread sheet so that we can do payouts and tournament financials in a fraction of the time it used to take us.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Tom McManus on April 21, 2008, 07:29:48 PM
Quote from: Silicon Avatar on April 21, 2008, 07:25:07 PM
And thanks to Mike Krupicka. Mike has become an invaluable resource around tournament central and has now written this great spread sheet so that we can do payouts and tournament financials in a fraction of the time it used to take us.

Heck yeah. Sorry Mike. There are many people who make a difference in the outcome of the event. 
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: kyle on April 21, 2008, 07:55:15 PM
Thanks everyone, it was fun and well run as usual. Got to play with a lot of cool people and beat a Schwinn. Mukey, you should have been there (especially with no Wham Bam this year).

Now if I ever learn to play, maybe I can hold it together for more than one round.

I thought the division splits worked out just fine. I never ran into any real backups at all on Saturday. Sunday had a backup from 18A through hole 2 or 3, but that probably had more to do with the wind than anything else.
Title: Re: IOS #1 @ Kenosha, WI--04/19 & 04/20 2008
Post by: Bruce Brakel on April 22, 2008, 07:43:11 AM
The half-in thing worked well, I thought, for the pros.  If those had been two trophy-onlys finishing above the cash line in Open, I doubt that the two pros below the cash line would have been there to collect.  After running the payouts Jon decided that 1/2-ins should be counted as 1/2 players for purposes of deciding how many to pay.  I agree for no-cash-added C-tiers.  It's just like how we count trophy-onlies as non-players for that purpose. 

Quote of the weekend, "I admit I'm a geek.  I have a 20th level Ranger.  But I'm a very successful geek!"