Just the front page.
Quote from: can't putt on October 08, 2008, 05:15:05 AM
Just the front page.
Not sure what you are referring to?
It has now been fixed, but earlier this morning the PDGA front page was replaced with an image of the Linux penguin carrying two assault rifles on a black background, along with some related text. Thankfully the haxx0rs were not particularly malicious and left the rest of the site, and evidently the admin password, intact.
i cant even get on pdga.com right now, it must be down. someone on www.discgolfersr.us was saying something about penguins and rap music on the pdga homepage this morning.
It was a typical calling card defacement this morning. My hunch is they pulled the net plug for now.
Here we go again. ::)
Here's what the page looked like first thing this morning.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e80/hicks107/SnagIt1.png
They've got a nice typo on there now.
thats funny....
Quote from: El Mexicano on October 08, 2008, 11:04:37 AM
They've got a nice typo on there now.
I don't see the typo...maybe they fixed it or maybe I'm blind.
aplogize , they fixed it
What language is that? I went to the website, www.web4sec.org and its a bulletin board and seems to have something to do with security. I think its eastern European but am not sure.Maybe its the message board for PUTT, Perfect Uzbekistan Throwing Team, a local disc golf club.
All those guys are hackers.....
ÝstiLaCrew
http://www.exoticautosusa.com/photo/11
\Polish I think
It's not Polish, it's Turkish.
ahh, yes indeed.....
just asked this guy next to me....
The typo was corrected soon after the post. "Please" was spelled "plese". Nothing major.
From Theo Pozzy
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:02 am
Yes, unfortunately, our server was compromised multiple times in the last month. The timing sucks, as it has been happening just as we're trying to finish and launch the new website.
At this point, there is too much risk and effort in trying to bring the old site back up, so we are scrambling to get the new one online. Unfortunately, we're going to have to launch it with a lot of stuff missing, and we'll be hustling to fill in the missing pieces quickly.
Hopefully, the disc golf community will understand and support our efforts, and not just complain.
Theo Pozzy
complaints will always come from those who haven't a clue what it takes to get a site up and runnning.
How long does it take to get a site up and running?
If the site has already been beta tested on the developmental server for months, shouldn't the actual transition take like a day or two?
It's been six days now. :sad3:
Quote from: El Mexicano on October 09, 2008, 05:19:30 AM
complaints will always come from those who haven't a clue what it takes to get a site up and runnning.
It takes a ton of time to re haul a site like that...
That database has to be a nightmare, patience....
Sit back and enjoy your break from moderation duties Jeff
Has something also happened to the disc golfers R us site? I went there today and received this message:
Our apologies
We're sorry, this site has an issue.
Please try refreshing the page in 30 seconds, or let us know if you get this message again.
I did so and received the same message. So, how is the security heeeeeeeeeere.....
The rest of ning is up, so I'm not sure what's going on with dgrus.
500 is an internal server error.
Back up.
Quote from: pickax on October 10, 2008, 11:30:53 AM
Sit back and enjoy your break from moderation duties Jeff
Who cares about the message board? I'm trying to upload results from a tournament, view the pre-reg for another tournament this weekend, view Course Development documents for a course I am pitching, and access the course directory for a trip next week, and I can't even f'king do any of those things! :angry9:
yeah... they should have been able to restore at least part of the site instead of just a hah yeah right sorry front page. It's not THAT difficult.
It's really screwing over the tournaments that are coming up this month... and I'm sure the TD's won't get a price break and sanctioning or anything either. Your tournament in the tour listing is one of the best advertisements out there. :(
if you go to pdga.com right now it redirects you to the message board. That's at least good. I still wish I knew what the homie pre-reg looked like (if they were putting it online early) - they are offering Novice this year and I don't know if I should go for that or play up... want to avoid as much baggage as possible!
Home pre-reg would not have been online anyway.
From the PDGA site:
Dear PDGA Members and Message Board Visitors,
As you are probably already aware, the PDGA website is currently down as we undergo a comprehensive security review in preparation for the launch of the all new PDGA.com website next week. The PDGA Message Board has now been brought back up to facilitate communication during this time. Additionally, the office staff is available to assist you with course directions, tournament information or any other information you may need in the next couple of days. We thank you for your continued patience as we go through these inconvenient but necessary steps to ensure the security and quality of the new website. The IT committee has dedicated countless volunteer hours working on this project for all of us so I would respectfully request that you all join me in extending our most sincere thanks and support to them, rather than leveling unproductive criticism which will only further slow the process.
We invite you to check back next week for the launching of the new and improved PDGA.com!
Regards,
Brian Graham
PDGA Executive Director
Theo Pozzy
IT Steering Committee Chair
Web 2.0? ;)
Its back!
It looks pretty good, I dig the layout. Tour schedule is still down...
it looks nice, but you cant look up player stats. i cant find a player lookup anywhere
Ah crap. I bet the new site will break some of the things I have in the club's member/contract app, like looking up PDGA numbers, ratings, etc. It would be cool if we can embed a RSS feed from pdga.com on the front page of our site tho.
The elves are waiting to see how much work a new data scraper is going to be. It will be hard to balance calculating new ratings in November and making toys. Then there's always Hermey... :)
Wait so a new and updated look isn't what everyone wanted from the new website? I personally enjoy a freshly updated website a lot more than the PDGA prescribed membership benefits.
At least we have Google's cache of certain pages to find past results or other information.
they still have a looong way to go. I wonder how many people are working on it. Coding and making it all look good and work well sure isn't easy!
The new look is actually pretty nice and if things are kept updated better (rather than still having links to 2004 documents), then that will be a good thing. The lament is that for those of us that do data scraping, some recoding is in order. Not a big deal and a small price to pay for progress.
Tourney pages and player stats are now available. There isn't a form yet to get to the player stats pages, but you can get there via a tournament page with the player you are interested in.
Unfortunately, the function for TDs to upload event results won't be back up for a while (according to Chuck).
i just went on the pdga site and you cant get anything for round lake and pitners tourney over the weekend and there is of course nothing on the tourney web site that gets you results this new site sucks. they need to go back to the old web site at least people could understand it
You don't read do you? The function for TDs to upload event results is not back up yet. Jon and Scott do not yet have the ability to update scores. The new site is much better, but it is still a work in progress to get the old functionality back without opening up the sight to be hacked again.
hahaha....
Jordan just jumped the gun on that one....
The new site is killer, I dig it. There is a ton of work involved with the database side and you can't expect that
to b up in a few days...
Can't blame Jordan, he's new to this internet-thingy ;D
i am not new at the internet thing. but it has not been a few days it has been a couple of weeks since they got the new page up. and until it is back up and runing like the old page it sucks ass (we never had problems like this on the old web site so all u can blow me)
Quote from: pickax on October 27, 2008, 11:00:41 AM
You don't read do you? The function for TDs to upload event results is not back up yet. Jon and Scott do not yet have the ability to update scores. The new site is much better, but it is still a work in progress to get the old functionality back without opening up the sight to be hacked again.
Besides entirely superficial stuff that is lost on the color blind, what's better about the new site? To me it looks like the old site with a fresh coat of paint, except the painters swiped some of the silverware while the owners were out. It was just the ice tea spoons, but I drink ice tea...
The advantage of the new site is that the office staff should be able to easily upload new documents without needing someone that knows how to code web pages. Most of the benefits are hidden from us, we see them in the form of faster turn around getting documents posted.
Quote from: cjordan on October 28, 2008, 11:06:20 AM
i am not new at the internet thing. but it has not been a few days it has been a couple of weeks since they got the new page up. and until it is back up and runing like the old page it sucks ass (we never had problems like this on the old web site so all u can blow me)
If he's taking anything on this board seriously & getting mad he MUST be new to the 'net >:D
Quote from: cjordan on October 28, 2008, 11:06:20 AM
i am not new at the internet thing. but it has not been a few days it has been a couple of weeks since they got the new page up. and until it is back up and runing like the old page it sucks ass (we never had problems like this on the old web site so all u can blow me)
What this child seems to be forgetting is that the original site was also up and running for years. The new site, with as many quirks as some seem to find in it, is still a work in progress. Remember that the PDGA is not a muti-million dollar conglomerate. If they had the funding to use someone like 2advanced studios or an American Eagle, then the site would be a work of art. Some of the people working on it may be simply volunteering their time. So cjordan, sit back, relax and shut the *(&^#$ up.
2advanced is an awesome company, had a friend who worked with them on some freelance stuff
Check out anamorph from WDDG
http://anamorph.wddg.com/
ol school isht, but really cool! Sorry for the off topic ness
Quote from: El Mexicano on October 28, 2008, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: cjordan on October 28, 2008, 11:06:20 AM
i am not new at the internet thing. but it has not been a few days it has been a couple of weeks since they got the new page up. and until it is back up and runing like the old page it sucks ass (we never had problems like this on the old web site so all u can blow me)
What this child seems to be forgetting is that the original site was also up and running for years. The new site, with as many quirks as some seem to find in it, is still a work in progress. Remember that the PDGA is not a muti-million dollar conglomerate. If they had the funding to use someone like 2advanced studios or an American Eagle, then the site would be a work of art. Some of the people working on it may be simply volunteering their time. So cjordan, sit back, relax and shut the *(&^#$ up.
To be fair, they are spending $75,000 on this project. They could afford American Eagle and then some. With that type of money being spent and the amount of money coming in from dues and tourneys, I have no problem saying that someone dropped the ball bigtime here. I don't think the new site sucks, but the process and the manners in which they have handled everything are pretty poor to say the least.
I rarely rip on the PDGA, but I don't get this new website at all. What was the point? Its all the same stuff and almost in the same layout. I was hoping for some new features like new ways of sorting player info, maybe some player profiles or the ability for players to load their profile so it shows up when you click on their name in the results, or Brett had suggested that when you click on a player's name you should be able to send them a message on the website, perhaps as a message forum PM. Also, I've always thought a link to past national and world champions should be easily accessible on the home page.
Another feature I'd like to see is being able to sort tournaments by the TD. You click on their name and a list of all the tournaments they have run comes up, and maybe a link connecting the tourament on the Tour page to a forum topic specifically for that tournament where the TD can post vital information (good for TD's without websites). Obviously there is a topic for alot of tourneys on the current message forum, but I'm lazy like alot of people and I NEVER go on the PDGA discussion forum because there are a million topics and I don't want to search through them. If there was just a link on the Tour page (which i visit frequently), I'd be more likely to visit the forum.
It might all be asking for alot, and maybe more improvements are yet to come, but so far I've not seen anything significantly different with the website that I would consider a positive.
Also, does anybody else have a problem clicking on the tabs at the top? They disappear on me before I can click them alot.
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QuoteCan't blame Jordan, he's new to this internet-thingy
Can't blame Mukey either, he doesn't play disc golf he just posts on disc golf message boards.
dan, to keep them from disappearing (depends on what version of browser you're using I think I've seen) just click on the menu first (single click) and then the drop down menu will persist for you to click on it.
They're paying $75,000 for this project? Holy cow I'd do it for them at that price!! I've done as big of a project as the pdga site for under $3k. Craziness.
I do click it and for some reason that doesn't always work until i click it like 4 or 5 times. not sure wat is up there.
Quote from: stpitner on October 28, 2008, 04:57:00 PM
dan, to keep them from disappearing (depends on what version of browser you're using I think I've seen) just click on the menu first (single click) and then the drop down menu will persist for you to click on it.
They're paying $75,000 for this project? Holy cow I'd do it for them at that price!! I've done as big of a project as the pdga site for under $3k. Craziness.
Most expensive PDGA projects are just g.o.b. kickback schemes. If they are paying 75 grand I would not be surprised if they were paying a big chunk of it to the former commissioner.
I think the $75k number was thrown out by Pat in one of his flame baiting posts where he only gives 1/3 of the information that he knows (1/2 of which might be inaccurate). He later posts that he isn't sure if that was the final contract. They are paying money for a security audit, I'm not sure what else they are paying for. Dan, I think some of your ideas are good ones. Once the site gets back to pre-hacked functionality, then they are going to start on a laundry list of new features. There's a thread under PDGA topics where you could probably post your feature ideas for them to add to their list (which I think is getting rather long).
The disappearing tab issue is with one type of browser (I don't remember which). It is a known issue.
$75K is way too much for a site like this. I wouldn't believe that. As a creative director I would never approve that qoute. Imagine a web designer at $75-$100 and hour. That's 750-1000 hours for a site like this? No way.
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on October 28, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: stpitner on October 28, 2008, 04:57:00 PM
dan, to keep them from disappearing (depends on what version of browser you're using I think I've seen) just click on the menu first (single click) and then the drop down menu will persist for you to click on it.
They're paying $75,000 for this project? Holy cow I'd do it for them at that price!! I've done as big of a project as the pdga site for under $3k. Craziness.
Most expensive PDGA projects are just g.o.b. kickback schemes. If they are paying 75 grand I would not be surprised if they were paying a big chunk of it to the former commissioner.
I think you should have alot more facts and evidence than you probably actually have before you make accusations like that. Thats just random gossip aimed at slandering people.
Quote from: Dan Michler on October 28, 2008, 04:44:23 PM
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QuoteCan't blame Jordan, he's new to this internet-thingy
Can't blame Mukey either, he doesn't play disc golf he just posts on disc golf message boards.
Dan, you've got to amend that to "he doesn't play disc golf tournaments", only played 3 this year, helped out at Lombard, West & Channahon Pro days (didn't see you at either of the latter...), and played a lot of casual rounds
At least I post a ;D when I "rip" on someone. Why >am I< taking Dan seriously? I'm being just as much of a net newbie as I accused Jordan of being, lol
Slander is spoken, libel is written.... but I digress.
I wouldn't rip the PDGA on the new site until its done. Yes, it should have been feature complete before launch but they obviously had other priorities in getting something online after the site was defaced.
Okay, I really dislike the flash-based dropdowns. Overall it seems like the new PDGA site is less mobile friendly than the old site.
Quote from: mirth on November 17, 2008, 12:30:19 PM
Okay, I really dislike the flash-based dropdowns. Overall it seems like the new PDGA site is less mobile friendly than the old site.
yeah it sucks. There is such a delay when you roll over.
not diggin it at all now, the performance blows
Quote from: mirth on November 17, 2008, 12:30:19 PM
Okay, I really dislike the flash-based dropdowns. Overall it seems like the new PDGA site is less mobile friendly than the old site.
Yes. At Rockford I had the scores off the PDGA site on my Windows Mobile PDA before the brass was handed out. This was due to Jon working at the speed of light and PDGA having a site that is mobile friendly. I recently tried to look up the scores of an event recently on my mobile and could not do it with the stock mobile version of IE. I have another porgram, Skyfire, that uses Flash. However, its really hard to read the PDGA site and the results with this program.
The PDGA site is down again.
And again this morning.
It appears you can no longer sort players by state on the PDGA site? You used to be able to sort by money, points, or ratings by individual states. Now I can't even see how to search by ratings at all. You can only search by money or points for the entire PDGA.
Is this correct or am I just missing something?
That's one of those features that has been requested by multiple people to get working again and they haven't gotten around to doing it yet.
You can search by player rating here: http://www.pdga.com/player-ratings-search
I can't find the link for this anywhere on the website, I had to actually search for it to get a link.
And you can search for current point leaders here -- http://www.pdga.com/tour-stats (http://www.pdga.com/tour-stats)
Scroll to the bottom of the page and use the drop-downs to sort accordingly.
Quote from: roman on April 28, 2009, 07:41:55 AM
You can search by player rating here: http://www.pdga.com/player-ratings-search
I can't find the link for this anywhere on the website, I had to actually search for it to get a link.
Thanks Roman. How challenging would it be for the PDGA to attach this link to the website. Its been a long time now and this site still sucks.