SSIA
change is near!
Who said 'MIDDLE CLASS' the most?
Quote from: Arok on November 04, 2008, 06:51:09 AM
change is near!
Oh, you naive, young man! ;D
I voted today. I voted some protest votes and I voted for a few people who will be elected. I consider voting for one of the minority party candidates a protest vote. It's a way to say to the Republicans and Democrats that they are not representing me.
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 07:42:36 AM
Quote from: Arok on November 04, 2008, 06:51:09 AM
change is near!
Oh, you naive, young man! ;D
I voted today. I voted some protest votes and I voted for a few people who will be elected. I consider voting for one of the minority party candidates a protest vote. It's a way to say to the Republicans and Democrats that they are not representing me.
;D
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 04, 2008, 06:43:08 AM
SSIA
?
What does this stand for?
In any case, my feelings are pretty well expressed right below my PDGA number. Regardless of your choice, its the one thing that makes us all proud to be Americans. Go vote for the candidate of your choice or at least the candidate you find least offensive. My lines were much longer at Starbucks to get the free coffee than at my polling place where they were actually pretty well organized.
Quote from: Chainmeister on November 04, 2008, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 04, 2008, 06:43:08 AM
SSIA
?
What does this stand for?
In any case, my feelings are pretty well expressed right below my PDGA number. Regardless of your choice, its the one thing that makes us all proud to be Americans. Go vote for the candidate of your choice or at least the candidate you find least offensive. My lines were much longer at Starbucks to get the free coffee than at my polling place where they were actually pretty well organized.
Subject says it all. Also, a free donut at Dunkin Donuts and free ice cream at 31 Flavors if you wear your I voted today sticker. The polling place at the Village Hall in Gurnee had over 200 people in line at 6:15 AM.
My polling place wasn't that busy at 8:15am but it was busier than normal. Busy enough that I thought they should have a special line for people who vote in every election. When I vote in the local only elections I'm usually the only person voting in my precinct while I'm there...unless Becky comes with me! ;D
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 04, 2008, 08:56:18 AM
Quote from: Chainmeister on November 04, 2008, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 04, 2008, 06:43:08 AM
SSIA
?
What does this stand for?
In any case, my feelings are pretty well expressed right below my PDGA number. Regardless of your choice, its the one thing that makes us all proud to be Americans. Go vote for the candidate of your choice or at least the candidate you find least offensive. My lines were much longer at Starbucks to get the free coffee than at my polling place where they were actually pretty well organized.
Subject says it all. Also, a free donut at Dunkin Donuts and free ice cream at 31 Flavors if you wear your I voted today sticker. The polling place at the Village Hall in Gurnee had over 200 people in line at 6:15 AM.
and free coffee at starbucks
I just voted here in Round Lake. Not a bunch of people but they said they were super busy this morning.
I did not vote for Bob Powers. He would not answer any e-mail or phone call about disc golf in the LCFP. He is backed by every person who voted disc golf down.
http://www.bobpowers.org/bob-powers-endorsements.html
I also voted NO to the Lake County Forest Preserve.
The serious topic for me was the con con (Call for an Illinois State Constitutional Convention) It affect me as a teacher so it was #1 on my list.
For the rest I flipped a coin.
I'm also in the batch of people that voted today, yay :) I didn't receive my voter's registration card yet (just have my green slip from registering again after moving), but they had my name and no problems!
Got there at 5:35am and was out by 6:15am. Done my part. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
I voted a few days ago. This was the first time in 20 years I voted for a major party candidate for President. I paid for my Starbucks this morning. Forgot all about the free offer.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 04, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
The serious topic for me was the con con (Call for an Illinois State Constitutional Convention) It affect me as a teacher so it was #1 on my list.
What is the big impact to teachers?
The line to vote here this morning took about as long as the line to get a passport on the lunch hour.
Quote from: can't putt on November 04, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
I voted a few days ago. This was the first time in 20 years I voted for a major party candidate for President. I paid for my Starbucks this morning. Forgot all about the free offer.
i voted for the first time and I feel great. Free coffee and crispy cremes after that was awesome...
I really felt like I need to brush up on my local politics though as i had no clue who the F anyone was.
It was quick and painless although there was one lady who would not take off her McCain pin
and they wouldn't let her vote. I didn't know you cant campaign within 50 or a 100 feet from the polls...
She did not back down and it got a little loud.
Quote from: can't putt on November 04, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
I voted a few days ago. This was the first time in 20 years I voted for a major party candidate for President. I paid for my Starbucks this morning. Forgot all about the free offer.
I hope your candidate today fares better than the candidate I assume you voted for 20 years ago.... ;) )
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 04, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
The serious topic for me was the con con (Call for an Illinois State Constitutional Convention) It affect me as a teacher so it was #1 on my list.
What is the big impact to teachers?
Mainly item #2 for me. I want to retire and play disc golf.
http://www.ieanea.org/con-con.aspx
Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 04, 2008, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 04, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
The serious topic for me was the con con (Call for an Illinois State Constitutional Convention) It affect me as a teacher so it was #1 on my list.
What is the big impact to teachers?
Mainly item #2 for me. I want to retire and play disc golf.
http://www.ieanea.org/con-con.aspx
it was the first question on our ballot. I was happy to mark that one a no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WP_FdM2GxE
i voted
one person ahead of me
i always vote
Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 04, 2008, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 04, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
The serious topic for me was the con con (Call for an Illinois State Constitutional Convention) It affect me as a teacher so it was #1 on my list.
What is the big impact to teachers?
Mainly item #2 for me. I want to retire and play disc golf.
http://www.ieanea.org/con-con.aspx
They are absolutely right. I thought the best ad of the political season was one with Jim Edgar and Dawn Clark Netsch jointly saying that Con Con is a bad idea. They had run against each other for Governor and likely do not agree on many issues. That was a pretty good bipartisan ad.
If by some chance the con con is passed it would be good for the Illinois teacher's association to lobby to get their pension not only guaranteed but also backed with actual money. They ought to switch over to some kind of 401k plan with a good match. That way there's actual money in an actual account with your name on it. If I'm elected Governor of Illinois I'll make some changes to our wasteful spending, streamline the Illinois government and make sure that the things that count like education and people's retirements are planned for in advance!
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
If by some chance the con con is passed it would be good for the Illinois teacher's association to lobby to get their pension not only guaranteed but also backed with actual money. They ought to switch over to some kind of 401k plan with a good match. That way there's actual money in an actual account with your name on it. If I'm elected Governor of Illinois I'll make some changes to our wasteful spending, streamline the Illinois government and make sure that the things that count like education and people's retirements are planned for in advance!
Amen to that, we have 5 teachers in my family!
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
If by some chance the con con is passed it would be good for the Illinois teacher's association to lobby to get their pension not only guaranteed but also backed with actual money. They ought to switch over to some kind of 401k plan with a good match. That way there's actual money in an actual account with your name on it. If I'm elected Governor of Illinois I'll make some changes to our wasteful spending, streamline the Illinois government and make sure that the things that count like education and people's retirements are planned for in advance!
Well, that's a kind of funny thing to say in these times. That pension pays out the same today as it did last month. Next month it will likely pay out the same. A 401k? Well, to say the least , values have diminished recently. A govermnent pension is a reasonably solid bet on the future. A guy in his early 30's like Coach C might say that a 401k will have more upside by the time he nears retirement. I bet the Athletic Director at Libertyville(who I presume is much closer to retirement and the golf course of his choice) is much happier with his pension than thinking he could be nearing retirement and having a 401k that has dropped precipitiously in the past month or so. There is simply not enough time left for those guys to recoup what they just lost. The young guys can wait it out. I think you just creeped out any government employee or teacher who has more than 15 or so years in and certainly any retiree. You wouldn't get their vote.
Now if you said this last year you would have had a lot of people looking at fixed incomes for their retirement saying, "Hey, yeah, sounds good to me. I know I coulda done a lot better investing my money."
401k management. If you are within 5 years of retirement you should NOT have your 401k in stocks. I would say that at 10 years out you should start divesting out of stocks. Not all at once. Start with the most volatile and then work your way down.
I hear what you're saying David, but it's harder to take away actual money in an actual account with an actual name than it is to change the Illinois State constitution.
Took the kids this morning. At 7AM we had to wait 30-40 minutes in line, mostly due to the number of people there whose last name started in the same range. In two previous elections I've never had to wait in line other than for a booth to open up.
Answered No to LCFP. They already have enough land thats sitting not being used.
Yes to the Con Con cuz AFAIK its the only way to get a recall provision into state law although admittedly I didn't read up much on the issue.
Quote from: mirth on November 04, 2008, 03:07:02 PMAFAIK its the only way to get a recall provision into state law although admittedly I didn't read up much on the issue.
The state constitution can be amended. A proposal to put a recall amendment on today's ballot was defeated in the state senate this past spring.
Quote from: airspuds on November 04, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WP_FdM2GxE
i voted
one person ahead of me
i always vote
Hey Spuds,
Have you ever condsidered using punctuation and using capital letters? I am tired of reading your crazy southside haiku s**t.
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 04, 2008, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: airspuds on November 04, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WP_FdM2GxE
i voted
one person ahead of me
i always vote
Hey Spuds,
Have you ever condsidered using punctuation and using capital letters? I am tired of reading your crazy southside haiku s**t.
Easy there McManus. Airspuds is Discontinuum's t.s. eliot! ;D
Obama wins Ohio?
Quote from: Arok on November 04, 2008, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: dana on November 04, 2008, 06:48:27 PM
Obama wins Ohio?
Yes. 199 to 78
I've got to figure that even in Ohio more than 277 people managed to vote. What are those numbers Arok? They look more like projected electoral wins so far rather than the results from Ohio.
I think he was reporting total electoral votes up until now.
Either way, anything projected as a W for Obama when he's down 44% to 56% is kind of silly if you ask me (or flip that around, regardless of who you are voting for).
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 04, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Arok on November 04, 2008, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: dana on November 04, 2008, 06:48:27 PM
Obama wins Ohio?
Yes. 199 to 78
I've got to figure that even in Ohio more than 277 people managed to vote. What are those numbers Arok? They look more like projected electoral wins so far rather than the results from Ohio.
Yes those are the projected electoral votes. I should have said that, my bad.
Popular vote looks pretty neck and neck so far. I can't see how McCain can win the electoral vote. I'll tell ya, CNN has some pretty killer demographic models. I wonder how long these people had to rehearse with the smart boards and touch screens...
The balance of power is looking pretty interesting as well. Wow
more like e.e. cummings work
i would say
that's how I scan airspuds' posts
anyway
;D
copied from another forum....
I actually checked this out on comcast, its wild. They are definitely catering to a different crowd....
Whoa...
The election coverage on Current TV is like being at an after hours party on an acid trip!!! Diplo mixin the sweet tunes, posts thrown on screen from Digg & Twitter!
Here's more info: http://current.com/topics/32967338_election_2008
Here's where to watch it live right now! ...which you must! It's crazy!
DIRECTV = Channel 366
DISH Network = Channel 196
Comcast = Channel 107 // 125
Time Warner = Channel 103 // 142
AT&T U-Verse = Channel 189
Verizon FIOS = Channel 130
Obama wins!
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!!! :)
Don't be afraid of a Liberal, Jesus Christ was one. He shared the wealth :)
Quote from: Sr. on November 04, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!!! :)
Don't be afraid of a Liberal, Jesus Christ was one. He shared the wealth :)
There are some serious shells blowing up the sky by my place....
going nuts out here...
Quote from: Sr. on November 04, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!!! :)
Don't be afraid of a Liberal, Jesus Christ was one. He shared the wealth :)
uncalled for.
Now here is a co-worker who takes voiting seriously !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbBq29qGxaA
Quote from: stpitner on November 04, 2008, 10:19:03 PMQuote
Don't be afraid of a Liberal, Jesus Christ was one. He shared the wealth :)
uncalled for.
? I find nothing objectionable with Sr.'s statement.
Quote from: stpitner on November 04, 2008, 10:19:03 PM
Quote from: Sr. on November 04, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!!! :)
Don't be afraid of a Liberal, Jesus Christ was one. He shared the wealth :)
uncalled for.
Sorry if that hurts you in any way, but after reading the Bible, Jesus does fit the description of a Liberal. But i respect your opinion, i just don't understand what's uncalled for.
I found both Presidential candidates somewhat appealing this time, so I'm not upset that Obama won. McCain is a good man and would have been an excellent President, but hopefully Obama's global popularity can help bring about some changes that will help the economy heal quicker.
I am proud to have voted yesterday. But I am proud to do so every year. I hope every eligible voter voted yesterday. It is your right and privilege to do so. I hope everyone who voted payed closer attention to your local politicians more than you did the national ones. They have more of an effect on your daily life. Especially if you are an avid Disc Golfer.
God Bless America.
QuoteI am proud to have voted yesterday. But I am proud to do so every year. I hope every eligible voter voted yesterday. It is your right and privilege to do so. I hope everyone who voted payed closer attention to your local politicians more than you did the national ones. They have more of an effect on your daily life. Especially if you are an avid Disc Golfer.
God Bless America.
Well said Amigo!
Quote from: El Mexicano on November 05, 2008, 12:02:46 PM
QuoteI am proud to have voted yesterday. But I am proud to do so every year. I hope every eligible voter voted yesterday. It is your right and privilege to do so. I hope everyone who voted payed closer attention to your local politicians more than you did the national ones. They have more of an effect on your daily life. Especially if you are an avid Disc Golfer.
Thats one thing I need to brush up on is my local politics. I did vote no for a con con though but had to leave all the other items blank.