http://pdga.com/pdga-publication
Maybe this one can try to be quasi-current and actually publish on time? I just got FDM at the house the other day & haven't opened yet.
Aren't you itching to see those results from last April? >:D
How many issues of FDM did people who actually subscribed to the magazine receive this year? IIRC I passed out three issues at doubles.
4 issues.
Only 2 so far. With the website being jacked and the crappy magazine, I'm seriously reconsidered not renewing my membership. Jason
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I think Maddisen got 3. The PDGA didn't get around to sending me my card and renewal packet until late July. I renewed in January.
I should modify my previous statement about how many issues I've handed out at doubles.... I've only had 2 issues that I can think of. What I have at my house is I assume to be the last issue of FDM.
Is there anyway to get your money back if you didn't all the magazines?
Good luck with that. Let us know if you do.
The email I sent to Brian Graham. Feel free to plagiarize.
Brian Graham,
I request the money I paid for Flying Disc Magazine (FDM), as part of my PDGA membership, be returned. I have only received two issues of the four that are claimed to be published. The magazines that I did receive were of poor quality. I am not interested in reading about smarmy guys that play Frisbee with their dogs or family vacations to Hawaii. FDM should devote more of their time to producing a quality magazine for the PDGA instead of promoting an instructional DVD. I am not the only PDGA member severely disappointed with the magazine, as you are probably aware. Hopefully this problem can be solved efficiently. Jason Sternberg
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I thought the Worlds coverage was totally lame. Our World Championship is all about having 20 or 30 divisional champions and he only covered two of them. RR at least would give every divisional winner a paragraph. He gave better coverage to Ultimate, dogs and some tournament I've never heard of.
I'm renewing because I might want to go to Worlds or USADGC or Bowling Green or any one of a half dozen A-tiers I can think of. I might not renew the crew. I feel like ams get stiffed over and over by this organization and I'm really tired of supporting that.
Brian Graham emailed me back and said I will receive my missing issues shortly. Jason
I am renewing in order to run events that y'all can play. I think there are a lot of people working for the PDGA that are doing a great job but I think the PDGA has out grown its architecture. The reason that the PDGA does not always deliver the best value for the amateur player is the same reason that it falls short on delivering for the pro player. I think at it's size it is time for the PDGA to spin off an amateur organization. This would help the PDGA concentrate on making the pro tour the best it can be while the new org can serve the amateurs and their needs. I think this would also help to elevate the professional disc golfer's status by having a clearer distinction between what is a pro and what is an amateur.
I couldn't believe that they had a story about Worlds and neither a single picture of nor a single word about the women's AM champion.
I got all 4 issues and felt they looked ok but had a lot less to say than DGWN. The latest issue did have some tips that I actually took to heart. I saw my name listed in the results as coming in 3rd in the Greater Milwaukee Open. Lets face it, that is a RARE occassion. But then again, who cares about the GMO which was played in May in late November/early December? And, while we are at it, who in the world cares who comes in 3rd in Novice! Results are generally old by the time they appear in a magazine but these results could get an AARP card.
i only received 1 magazine this year and it was the other day. i had a 2 year membership that expires this year, so you would've thought i would get all 4. and i didnt get my renewall package untill july.
this is why the pdga doesnt do as good as they should, because poor service = less members.
i will renew for next year cause its cheaper than payin the extra 10 bucks for nonmembers at tournaments considering i did 11 sanctioned and 10 unsanctioned in 2008.
i agree with the idea of having a spin off for ams. that way advanced players realize they are amatuers like the rest of us in am1,2,3,4. i ran into a couple advanced players at the river city rumbles this year that were makin fun of everyone in the am class, untill i proved to them they were ams too. they were out of their game tryin to prove us wrong and tied for last in am1and i beat them by 23 points >:D
you also played the short tees at west lake for RCR while the advanced players played from the longs, that makes quite a difference
Quote from: treeMD on December 08, 2008, 04:41:38 PM
you also played the short tees at west lake for RCR while the advanced players played from the longs, that makes quite a difference
not to them it didnt, cuz they said they would beat the score of any person that played the short tees that day. they were proven wrong!
I will be glad to see Rothstein involved again; the old boys network wasn't always bad.
And yes, his coverage was much more in-depth with nearly equal effort given toward AMs.
Quotenot to them it didnt, cuz they said they would beat the score of any person that played the short tees that day. they were proven wrong!
well thats just silly on thier part cause that is a course that the long and short tees play very different. congrats on your win by the way.
I think part of the problem with the am divisions is that there are too many of them. if you have just two am divisions then you would have larger fields, which means bigger and deeper payouts. it would also make for more competion, you would have to play better and develop your game more if you wanted to cash.
ok im done drifting now
I received 3 out of 4, not sure when I received my renewal package. I finally received some stuff for tournaments (rule books, PDGA soft cards, other printed materials and pamphlets) in mid-October? something like that. Yes! I could still use it for one tournament! *sigh*
Maybe 2009 would be better - but they seriously need more help in that office if they want to truly increase and improve.
I received all of my TD packs except for Rockford. You'd think they'd make sure they got the TD pack to the TD for an A tier!
I received my missing issues today. Brain Graham is a solid guy. Jason
So Flying Disc Magazine is allegedly in bookstores now and their goal is to "Sell Them All" with our support so they can show newstand vendors that there is a demand for the publication. I'm trying to figure out whether I care. Here is a list of their Illinois Barnes and Noble outlets:
728 Waukegan Road Deerfield IL 60015
20600 North Rand Rd Deer park IL 60010
297 Oakbrook Center Oak Brook IL 60523
1701 East Empire Bloomington IL 61701
1300 E Main Street Carbondale IL 62901
65 East Market View Dr. Champaign IL 61820
47 East Chicago Ave #132 Naperville IL 60540
5380 Northwest Highway Crystal Lake IL 60014
160 Orland Park Place Orland IL 60462
Boooo Flying Disc Magazine. Even after corresponding with Brian Graham and receiving my two missing issues. I still never received all my issues. If they can't produce a magazine on time, let alone a quality magazine, and distribute it properly nobody should buy it. If you want to learn about disc golf, keep up on product updates, and better your game go to www.discgolfreview.com. Don't wait for a magazine to never show up and when it does you get to read about people's vacations and dog Frisbees. Booo. Jason
How many magazines were we supposed to get last year? I think I only got 2?
I received 5. The PDGA and FDM agreed to can the last issue (FDM was not paid for #6).
Unless the magazine is a lot better than it was this past year I will not be supporting it. I think it is kinda backwards that they are going to try to publish a commercial magazine when they could not even keep up with the in house PDGA magazine. To me it would be easier to publish the in house magazine.
I do not understand why we did not receive the 6th magazine. Didn't we pay for it? I do not care what agreement FDM and The PDGA have. I had an agreement to receive 6 magazines. Bimonthly for 1 year=6. So I should either get my magazine or a refund.
At least PGDA Media is putting out some good quality videos lately. Hopefully the new magazine will be a nice.
I wonder if they had any money issues - promises of x number of subscribers, but then the PDGA probably had a lot more people opt-out than they expected, and suddenly the expected money drops off leading to stuff unable to be done on time. If FDM can get a committed number of subscriptions (I noticed that I can even order these wholesale through Innova), they have an easier time producing these with a slightly more guaranteed cash flow (plus it's probably cheaper to ship a bunch of copies to a single distribution place as opposed to dealing with all of the individual mailings).
I might order the current issue through Innova, see if it has improved, and then decide where to go from there.
I think it is kind of backward that they are trying to start a general circulation magazine at a time when the internet is putting general circulation print media out of business. Kind of like going into the buggy whip business in the 1920s.
Maybe even like Chuck Kennedy's effort to reinvent frisbee golf [SuperClass] in the 21st century! ;D
You can convince yourself of anything with the right numbers.
I think it's good to get the magazine in general circulation because it adds credibility, regardless of the decline of printed materials. I still thank that FDM is a poorly run business, but I wish them luck and hope that it helps us. There are thousands of disc golf websites out there, but even if everything is turning to the web, not more than a handful of those involved with the websites know how to properly get them in front of the masses. This is a good step at least.