Paper or Plastic Sports.com Top Nine of '09 Series of Events
I am proud to announce a series of events going on this year in Illinois sponsored by Paper or Plastic Sports.com. The series will contain 9-PDGA sanctioned events starting March 28th-29th and ending October 17th-18th. Two events are AM-only, the remaining are Pro/Am
The Lineup:
Pro B/Am B-Tier - March 28th-29th - Channahon, IL - Irish You the Best of Luck (TD: Scott Pitner)
Pro C/Am B-Tier - April 18th-19th - Oswego, IL - Oswego Spring Fling (TD: Mike Krupicka)
Am C-Tier - Sat May 9th - Libertyville, IL - Chicagoland AM Championships (TD: Brett Comincioli)
Pro C/Am B-Tier - June 20th-21st - Course TBD (Tentatively West Park in Joliet) - Nothin' But Chains (TD: Scott Pitner)
Pro C/Am C-Tier - July 11th-12th - Sterling, IL - Sinnissippi Open (TD: Brett Comincioli)
Pro C/Am B-Tier - August 1st-2nd - Course TBD (Tentatively Aurora) (TD: Scott Pitner)
Am B-Tier - August 30th - Waukegan, IL - Chains of Pain (TD: Scott Pitner)
Pro B/Am B-Tier - September 26th-27th - Channahon, IL - 22nd Annual Channahon Classic (TD: Scott Pitner)
Pro C/Am B-Tier - October 17th-18th - Course TBD (TD: Scott Pitner)
The remainder of the details will be found at www.paperorplasticsports.com (http://www.paperorplasticsports.com) starting this evening, 3/3/09. Because some of the tournaments will have differences for what divisions play when, go to the website, and starting tonight all of the information will stay current as far as where to go to get the full details, where to pre-register, etc. Oswego and Libertyville pre-reg is already online, Channahon's goes up tonight!
There will be overall series points along with overall series awards. Overall points will be based on the top 6 scores out of 9 events for AM's and the top 4 out of 7 events for Pro's.
More details to come out quickly...
R.I.P. Dad - 2 years today - 5/11/59 - 3/3/07
Nice work in helping to bring this many tournaments to the local scene Scott. Its always great to have PDGA tourneys in close proximity and it definitely helps grow the competitive disc golf scene locally.
I definitely have Oswego, Libertyville, West Park, and Sinnissippi circled on my calendar. Hopefully I'll make as many of the others as possible. Looking forward to a fun year of disc golf!
I'll try and register for Channy tonight. Thanks, Scott!
REGISTRATION FOR IRISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IS NOW ONLINE!
If you pre-register please be sure to post on here (at least the first couple of people). I'm using a new system with Google Checkout (since it allows me to create a generic cart quickly), and you can sign up multiple people (eventually multiple tournaments once more of the pre-registrations are online) as well as add sponsorships. However, I can't test it because it would require me to go through the process of charging my credit card as well. It says it will automatically send me an email once a payment comes in, but only time will tell...
We max at 105 people per day, and I will NOT add additional holes.
Visit www.paperorplasticsports.com (http://www.paperorplasticsports.com) and click Upcoming Tournaments to see the full calendar and register for your events!
Matt Travis 29292 Looked like it worked..
No women or age-protected divisions?
Nevermind, I found it. It helps to look. Sorry, I'm an idiot.
I received your registration Matt - thanks! You'll get a "shipping" notification once I have your name on the PDGA website. Hopefully you had no problems with shipping or tax information. I told it that it would not have sales tax, but wasn't sure what the settings were for shipping! It all looks like it worked out just fine though. Thanks for being my guinea pig :)
Scott-
I'm trying to register, but when I go to check out the amount is not correct...
(obviously trying to register for mpo)
Thanks,
Dana
all fixed Dana, thanks for pointing that out! It was only incorrect for the person who was selecting the first item (so MPO for both current and non current PDGA members).
104 spots available for Saturday.
100 spots available for Sunday.
:)
just signed up for intermediate. prereg seemed smooth enough through google.
Scott,
Are you going to offer a masters divsion and if so on what day ?
I can't speak for all of the tournaments (some of them are AM-only, for example), but for the upcoming Irish You the Best of Luck I'm offering all Pro Divisions (Open Men, Open Women, Masters, Grandmasters) on Sunday, March 29th. Just a note: it's the Open Men division that will see the added cash for the event though. You might want to keep that in mind. If I get over $500 of sponsorships, then I'll start distributing to the other open divisions, but this year the pipeline has been VERY small.
You can visit my calendar page http://www.paperorplasticsports.com/tournaments.html (http://www.paperorplasticsports.com/tournaments.html)
And for each tournament if you click Info - you'll be able to find out what divisions are offered as well as what days. (specific information for tournaments after May is still up in the air).
For those of you who will be at the club challenge and want to play at the Channahon tournament the following weekend, I will be at the Club challenge accepting pre-registrations. You can save $5 by pre-registering! $50 for Open, $30 for AM's, $20 for Juniors when you pre-reg.
So far I have 9 people for Saturday and 20 people signed up for Sunday. I also have some additional verbal commitments for both days. It should be a good turnout both days!
Adv/Rec/Jr divisions play Saturday.
Open/Int/Nov divisions play Sunday.
B-TIER. March 28th and 29th. Channahon. See me at the Club Challenge to pre-reg!
scott how do you do ams playing pro and cashing. do they recieve all of there payout in funeymoney.. thanks
Last year I only had one am play pro and cash - he received the same amount in funny money as he would have received in cash. Since I have only had one person do this so far I haven't thought about it too much, but I would anticipate keeping it the same this year. There's also a spot in the TD report where I have to report am's that play pro and take merch instead of cash. I would make sure to enter that. There could be a potential for a large amount of merch payout with the added $500 cash to the pro purse. It might be worthwhile to go for it since you have a good rating to go for it.
you sold me scott.. what a salesman
Going into Monday morning - 21 people signed up for Saturday, 27 for Sunday, should be a great weekend!
24 on Saturday, 32 on Sunday - pre-reg and save a couple bucks - Pre-Reg closes Friday morning at 10AM!
I plan on driving out to Channahon at some point on Friday - mainly to figure out what the 21st hole will be depending on what course conditions look like. If you have a Chainstar or equivalent basket and can bring it for one or both days, please let me know. Right now I'm going to either use my Chainstar and two DISCatcher sports or a Chainstar, one DISCatcher Sport, and the practice basket.
Since there are now 10 concrete long tee pads, we will definitely play one round using the longs on both days. I do not know if it is 1st or 2nd round yet (might be 1st).
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scott do you have any elite-z Avenger ss.
Quote from: OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN on March 24, 2009, 05:09:28 PM
scott do you have any elite-z Avenger ss.
sorry, not yet... I only have FLX Avenger SS and ESP Avenger SS right now. I don't know how soon I'll be able to order from Discraft - *maybe* for the Oswego Spring Fling, we'll see.
hey scott. What time do u think that the second round will end saturday. I have to work at 4:45 and i was wondering if i would be able to make it if i leave right after the second round. If i cash or anything save it for sunday. Would this be possible?
You're going to be cutting it close if you have to be at work at 4:45 no matter what tournament you'd play in. I'd expect round 1 to start around 9:30-9:40. if all goes well 1st round would be done around 12:30. 2nd round ideally would start at no later than 1:30 with finishing at 4:30.
If you started later then I'd feel better about it, but 4:45 is really cutting it close. It really depends if we have a bunch of 3-somes, 4-somes, or 5-somes. If they are all groups of 5, I'd say you wouldn't make it. If it's mostly 3's and 4's, you'd probably be able to leave ok - just don't know how far you have to drive to get to work!
Obviously if you make it through both rounds and win something I can hold it to the next day.
alright thanks
Due to the amount of registrations - pre-reg extended to 8pm central time tonight! I want to give as many people that want to play Sunday a chance so that you don't get turned away on Sunday.
A little bit of rain expected Saturday afternoon, but not too bad (they predict less than half an inch for the day, and for those of you at my Oswego tournament - compare that to the 6.5" that fell on THAT day. Half an inch is like a misting! Sunday looks great.
There are 30 people signed up for Saturday, 60 signed up for Sunday! We max out at 105, so make sure to get signed up!!!
Scott,
I hope everything went well today I will be there super early tomorrow see you there.
We had 49 players today, and more people signed up for Sunday putting pre-reg at 72 - nice job on pre-registering all!
I cap at 105 players ABSOLUTE MAX!!! It's still raining out here right now, but at some point tonight it's supposed to turn into snow. I have no idea how much will be on the ground, but BE PREPARED. I have no idea if there will be just a little bit of snow or a lot of snow. PDGA events do not allow you to tape ribbon to your discs.
We are playing short tees in the morning, and they will be clean. Depending on the warmup/melting, it will then determine if we play longs 2nd round or not.
Today we only played 20 holes. There's a good chance that we'll only play 20 holes on Sunday as well - the max of 105 will include one floater group if necessary.
Saturday scores are posted:
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8718&year=2009&include_ratings=1 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8718&year=2009&include_ratings=1)
Congrats to Mike Chavarria for his ace on hole #7, a blind shot! He won $76.
Hey Scott,
Snows kind of rough down in Bloomington this morning so I don't see getting on the roads. I'm pre-reg'd so if a refund is doable that would be cool. Understand if the answer is no at this stage, but wanted to at least see about the entry money. This is first time I've been reg'd for an event and won't be going so not sure what TD's usually do for no shows due to weather.
Hope the event still goes well.
Thanks,
Ben Douglas
well i dont think im gonna make it either do to the ice. i fell once already trying to clear my truck off. if possible can my prereg go for the oswego tourney coming up? if not i understand.
i was also looking at yesterdays score and noticed 1st place in rec is rated a 901. :huh:
have fun
looks like a mess out there
Scott Pitner has the absolute best luck with weather.
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 29, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
Scott Pitner has the absolute best luck with weather.
ha. i was thinking the same thing.
Quote from: duain on March 29, 2009, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 29, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
Scott Pitner has the absolute best luck with weather.
ha. i was thinking the same thing.
Heh, I actually mentioned something about that during Sunday's player meeting. I commented that I need to change the tournament because I apparently have no luck at all!
I'll comment more to other things later after I've had some sleep - sooooo tired.
84 players Sunday. Results are posted:
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8719&year=2009&include_ratings=1 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8719&year=2009&include_ratings=1)
Did you play shorts both rounds on Sunday? Just wondering. The ratings for the rounds seem pretty similar.
Scott, you seem to attract interesting weather. In any case, nice job putting on this tournament. I know that it must have been difficult just keeping your merch dry. Nice job Frank Grimes on the upkeep of this course. I had a chance to play with Frank all day on Saturday and told him that the course looks better every time I play it. I would really like to get back in about a month when all the shrubs starts blooming. On every hole Frank is looking for loose papers, bottles etc and picking them up. That wall on 15 is very nice. Apparently, some local houligans had knocked it down and Frank had to rebuild it. Most interesting moment of the day for me was when I threw a Sidewinder right over the head of a deer in the fairway on 14. It was a baby and I was a little nervous that the mother would think I was attacking her baby.
Quote from: Chainmeister on March 30, 2009, 06:11:35 AM
Did you play shorts both rounds on Sunday? Just wondering. The ratings for the rounds seem pretty similar.
Scott, you seem to attract interesting weather. In any case, nice job putting on this tournament. I know that it must have been difficult just keeping your merch dry. Nice job Frank Grimes on the upkeep of this course. I had a chance to play with Frank all day on Saturday and told him that the course looks better every time I play it. I would really like to get back in about a month when all the shrubs starts blooming. On every hole Frank is looking for loose papers, bottles etc and picking them up. That wall on 15 is very nice. Apparently, some local houligans had knocked it down and Frank had to rebuild it. Most interesting moment of the day for me was when I threw a Sidewinder right over the head of a deer in the fairway on 14. It was a baby and I was a little nervous that the mother would think I was attacking her baby.
Short tees both rounds.
Thanks go out to Scott Pitner and crew for all their hard work and for giving the disc golf World a chance to come together!
I received a couple PM's that I had PDGA #'s incorrect on 2 players in Open - it will affect the round ratings slightly for everybody once I get these fixed. My wife is currently in the process of sending me my TD report so that I can make the updates.
Sorry about the mixups - I have a light case of dyslexia it would seem (and it sucks because I love working with numbers), and I was also dead tired while adding the new players at 11:30pm last night!
We did short tees both rounds on Sunday because: 1) with the snow on the ground, only the short tees were cleared and we were unsure if the snow would melt off enough for the longs by the start of round 2 (they were good to go at the end of round 2, but not the start); 2) All of the AM's turned in 3 hour 1st rounds, but the pro's somehow managed to clock in at just under 4 hours. I had already made the decision based off #1, but the long first round confirmed the decision because a round with longs starting at 2:30 tee time would have taken them until 6:30 potentially. But the weather improved and everyone clocked in at just under 3 hours for round 2.
PDGA #'s for Sunday corrected - ratings are updated.
Later in the week I'll start working on getting the points together.
Next event in the Top Nine of '09 - the Oswego Spring Fling!
Scott when you get a chance to order getting some Z flash and Z flicks would be AWSOME!
Many thanks to the crew that helped me run this thing over the weekend. I think if any of them weren't able to make it that there would be absolutely no way that I could have run things so smoothly. So special thanks to Adrian Sr, Travis, Jessica, and Stan for the help at tournament central. Thanks to Tom and Scott K. with the unloading Sunday morning and again Tom for adjusting 19's flags in the soup. Continued thanks to Frank Grimes, where we raised $122 from the 50/50 CTP over the weekend, for all of his time, money, and effort put into the improvements of this course! Sunday players didn't get to see it until sometime late in the 2nd round, but Frank had 10M circles painted out there for me along with mulching and all sorts of other good stuff. It makes me wish I could have gone out there to play. Thanks to Rob for bring in the temp baskets on Sunday!
Thanks to Scott and his crew! Things ran nice and smooth. It seemed like the 2nd round was an hr faster than the first...also have to give a shout out to Frank for all his work he did and does at Channy! And thanks to Jason Poole for shoveling the pads.
Thanks Scott and staff. Great event and thanks for getting the scores up that night. That's awesome!!!
Also the large pro field builds a good case for having open players play on Sundays. Even the people at Discraft took notice of the large open field.
(They mentioned it on their home page)
That's awesome! Thanks for pointing that out :) Chris won over $400 - don't have the exact amount handy. I know it paid out to 16 pro's (one am taking reward dollars instead of cash) ranging from about $425 - $58.
QuoteAlso the large pro field builds a good case for having open players play on Sundays
Don't get ahead of yourself now.
heh - it was a Pro B-Tier with $500 added cash to the pro fields - I think that's why there were more pro's.
Quote from: dana on April 02, 2009, 10:57:58 AM
QuoteAlso the large pro field builds a good case for having open players play on Sundays
Don't get ahead of yourself now.
Reasons why the Illinois Open Series put pros on Saturday, back when we did that:
1. A lot of Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa and Michigan tournaments had pros on Sunday for their split-weekend tournaments. By flipping our divisions, we avoided problems with the zones of exclusion.
2. Also, it gave more players a chance to play in their preferred division on their preferred day on any weekend where there was another tournament going on somewhere not too far away.
3. Back then, when the split was Pro-Adv // Int-Rec, it gave the top players first look at all the new merch.
4. After we tried it, Brett decided that it worked fine for him, and Jon and I thought it worked good for us, too. This series has always been about running and playing the kinds of tournaments we want to play.
5. Pros and Advanced travel more than lower divisions. They are more likely to plan on playing two tournaments on a weekend. We wanted ours to be the one they would most likely actually play any time they were planning on playing two.
5. We didn't NEED to run pros on Sunday, so other good reasons could prevail. Some TDs have countervailing reasons for running pros on Sunday that we don't have.
We apologize for the inconvenience this creates for those players who cannot play on the day we run their division. I think those players exist in equal quantities no matter which day which divisions play.
One event remaining to maximize your points! I have all of the scores and points entered on an individual tournament basis, now I'm just working on putting those scores on the overall leaderboard. I have Intermediate points done, but I won't post those numbers until I have everything ready.
There will be trophies for 1st through 3rd place for each of the big 5 divisions (Open, Adv, Int, Rec, Nov), and then probably just 1 trophy for the bigger micro divisions (Adv Master, Adv Grandmaster, maybe an overall Juniors Trophy). If time allows I'll investigate if I can go 4 or 5 deep on the big 5 divisions, but right now I'm only going to guarantee top 3.
For intermediate, 1st and 2nd place is locked up, but there is still a fight on for 3rd. Congrats to Jon Boster and Spaz Kutella for locking up 1st and 2nd, respectively. Right now Jason Riley holds onto 3rd, but there are a couple lurkers not far behind!
The AM's are counted for their best 6 events out of 9 total events. The Pro's are the best 4 out of 7 events (2 events did not offer a Pro division).
I'm still working on the trophies, so in case what I want doesn't work out I'm keeping mum on what they are!
I should have the current standings posted LATE tonight or sometime tomorrow.
Points are based on the following: you score 100 points for winning, 0 points for DNF'ing. You take the place you finished (plus 1 for yourself) divided by the number of players in the division. Multiply that by 100 and round. The result will be a number from 0 to 100, and that's how many points you scored for that tournament. People that tie all get the same # of points. The benefit of this is that even if the division had a small turnout - if you won you still got 100 points. It rewards those that attended the event.
Thanks to all that attended one or more of these 9 events!
Irish You the Best of Luck @ Community Park - Channahon
Oswego Spring Fling @ Eagle Ridge - Oswego
Chicagoland AM Championships @ Adler - Libertyville
Nothin' But Chains @ West Park - Joliet
IOS #3 - Sinnissippi Open @ Sinnissippi Park - Sterling
Challenge at the City of Lights @ Jericho Lake - Aurora
Grip It & Rip It @ Goose Lake Park - Roselle
22nd Annual Channahon Classic @ Community Park - Channahon
and last but certainly not least
Joliet Disc Golf Championships @ Highland Park, Trinity Links, Community Park - Joliet
The points are ready! You can expand/collapse each division from the left hand side. The closest right now is a 1 point difference between 1st and 2nd in Novice! The top 3 in each of the major 5 divisions will get a trophy at the conclusion of the Joliet Championships. Right now there will also be a Pro Master and Adv Grandmaster trophy for first. There will probably also be an Advanced Master trophy for first. Beyond that, there were not enough events played or enough players for other divisions.
Thanks everyone for your participation!
Thats actually a pretty cool points system. I wish I would have been able to play a few more events. How about a 10 for '10 series next year! ;)
Just giving out a heads up that unless I miraculously find a couple extra days worth of time between now and Sunday, the points series trophies will not be done in time. I *think* I should be able to get all of the 1st place ones done (8 of those). I have most of the pieces cut, a good part of the trophy assembled, but they still need to be painted. I don't like having to paint after assembling, but I think it's for the best in this scenario. I'll have to find out a way to distribute the 2nd and 3rd place ones in addition to the 1st place ones to players who do not play this weekend. I'm not sure how fragile these things are. It WAS frequently breaking, but now that it's had time to let the glue and solder set, it hasn't broken.
I've been real quiet about what this trophy would be because I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to make it work. I have one assembled, and either the unfortunate thing (or the fortunate thing) is that you can clearly tell that it's handmade. It took me a long while to find all of the parts that I needed.
The attached is a 1st place trophy (or will be). It's a 5" diameter. The 2nd and 3 place will be a 4" diameter and have a smaller chain.
Hopefully someday I'll find something better for the nameplate, but it is what it is for now.
Thanks all for playing in this year's Top 9 of '09!
if anyone is good at working with metal (especially small metals) or knows where I could get a better faceplate to use for the bottom of the basket, I'd love to get an email from you. Once people see these baskets I'd also welcome any comments (not enough chains, bucket looks terrible, it would be cool if it had this, etc etc). I'd like to continue making these for future tournaments, and I'd love to always make improvements to them.
The one you see in the picture is 12" tall. I think 2nd and 3rd will be closer to 9 inches tall since it's only a 4" diameter set of chains.
I think those are very cool.
Point series final totals are in!
Congratulations to the following winners!
PRO Open
1st - Brett Comincioli (358)
2nd - Matt Coyne (342)
3rd - Jason Gordon (317)
PRO Masters
1st - Joe Tomecek (339)
Advanced Masters
1st - Ron Miller (150)
Advanced Grandmasters
1st - Frank Grimes (313)
Advanced
1st - Chris Brenholtz (453)
2nd - Taylor Cimala (370)
3rd - Eric Bassett (330)
Intermediate
1st - Jon Boster (577)
2nd - Mike Kutella (534)
3rd - Jason Riley (456)
Recreational
1st - Eric Fite (486)
2nd - Benton Lindquist (400)
3rd - Jason Smith (313)
Novice
1st - Robert Radtke (365)
2nd - Kyle Chapman (286)
3rd - Mark Onstad (216)
I will make arrangements to ensure that these players get their trophies once they are ready!
Final standings are attached :)