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Title: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 03, 2009, 06:01:26 PM
Both Taylor and Matt Travis have said that they were going for the Advanced Points Title this year.  Is one of them going to take the lead at the next ratings update?  Right now Taylor leads 525 to 285.  The top Advanced player is currently at 1933.  These guys have some work to do.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 03, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
There are some points to be taken at the CAC. Is it going to be a local who takes Advanced? Who will be the CAC King?
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on May 03, 2009, 08:10:16 PM
Let's not forget Bowling Green. The first update truly only included Memorial. May 19 will paint a different picture.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on May 04, 2009, 07:16:34 AM
Are you both in for Am Nationals?  The three can't miss tournaments in any men's amateur points run are Bowling green, Am Worlds and Am Nats.  I won the 2008 Am Master obelisk from playing those three tournaments. 
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on May 04, 2009, 08:11:57 AM
I'm playing all 3, yea. Also doing 4 A tiers between now and worlds as well.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: dana on May 04, 2009, 09:34:50 AM
That Bryan Johnson from St. Louis might be tough to beat if he keeps playing AM all year.

Good luck, Taylor and Matt.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 07, 2009, 02:50:19 PM
After Bowling Green:

1st Place   2315
3rd Place Taylor Cimala  2225
12th Place Matt Travis   1825

The race is on.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN on May 07, 2009, 07:11:55 PM
i better step it up 12th is no good
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: stpitner on May 08, 2009, 09:51:31 AM
Rock on guys!  Hopefully with the IOS and my events there will be lots of points to be had close to home.  The IOS are all Am-B tiers, the same is likewise for events where I'm TD.  That's 10 events in Illinois right there if you hit them all!
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Dan Michler on May 08, 2009, 10:45:04 AM
Tom McManus is just decimating the highly competitive Advanced Grandmasters tour.  Nice work Tom, I think you have this obelisk wrapped up.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 08, 2009, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on May 08, 2009, 10:45:04 AM
Tom McManus is just decimating the highly competitive Advanced Grandmasters tour.  Nice work Tom, I think you have this obelisk wrapped up.

Being old enough and bad enough to play in 4 different divisions is a distinct competitive advantage.  It also helps having a bunch of great TDs around this area.   
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 08, 2009, 08:29:10 PM

After Bowling Green:

1st Place   2315
3rd Place Taylor Cimala  2225
12th Place Matt Travis   1825  1850 with Abominable Snowman II  If it ever becomes official.
The race is on.

Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 10, 2009, 12:35:56 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on May 08, 2009, 08:29:10 PM

After Bowling Green:

1st Place   2315
3rd Place Taylor Cimala  2225
12th Place Matt Travis   1825  1850 with Abominable Snowman II  If it ever becomes official.
The race is on.



After Taylor put a beatdown on Matt at the CAC, he has unofficially stretched his lead. 
Taylor    2315
Matt       1905


Someone has got some work to do. 400 Points can be made up in a weekend, but it is going to take some big events with good scores to do it.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 18, 2009, 02:48:40 AM
After CCR the unofficial totals:

Taylor Cimala  2685
Matt Travis     1850
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on May 18, 2009, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on May 08, 2009, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on May 08, 2009, 10:45:04 AM
Tom McManus is just decimating the highly competitive Advanced Grandmasters tour.  Nice work Tom, I think you have this obelisk wrapped up.

Being old enough and bad enough to play in 4 different divisions is a distinct competitive advantage.  It also helps having a bunch of great TDs around this area.   
I'm not competing for an obelisk this year.  Next year I hope to go half-in for the obelisk.  Which is to say I'm going to take my best shot, with the exception of playing Grandmaster at Am Worlds.  It is a shame that you have to choose between playing for a World Championship or playing for an age-based obelisk, but that's how the point system works.  I won the Am Master obelisk for 2008 because Mark Roberts and Tim Weimer decided to play for an Am Master World Championship. 
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on May 25, 2009, 02:48:45 AM
Currently 1st Place  Taylor Cimala  2685
Currently 18th Place Matt Travis   2314

After the GMO. These totals are UNOFFICAL.


The over/under has been set at  11,777.

Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on May 25, 2009, 06:42:28 PM
It won't be as high this year due to the changes in the divisional structure and more people playing where they actually should be.

Sprained my ankle this weekend canoing :(
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on May 25, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
You'll get over it, but it might start hurting again when you're fifty.  I'm icing my ankles right now. 
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on July 07, 2009, 05:24:08 PM
There is a excellent race shaping up for points. It is great to see 3 club members in the top four spots for AM Open.  I don't know if all three guys are going to continue to play AM through the rest of the year, but it looks like in order to be the points winner, the individual will have to continue to do so.

Taylor Cimala      5155 
Justin Atwater-Taylor     4903
Matt Travis                4765
David Nelson    4538

With all four players registered for Worlds, it is wide open.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on August 19, 2009, 06:11:52 PM
The points for worlds have been posted.  Five of the top ten AM points leaders are from Illinois.  This says a couple of things, Illinois players are willing to travel, we have some very good players, and we have some great TDs who are willing to run events. Thanks to all the local TDs who run events There is a lot of disc golf to be played good luck to all the Illinois players.

Justin Atwater-Taylor   33117  13   KS   USA   9453  $ 0 962
Taylor Cimala   30371  14   IL   USA   8800  $ 0 961
David Nelson   30228  14   IL   USA   8033  $ 0 966
Jeremy Rusco   29631  5   KS   USA   7978  $ 0 975
Blaine Kinkel   34968  4   SC   USA   7955  $ 0 982
Matt Travis   29292  18   IL   USA   7870  $ 0 957
Tony Ferro   33551  9      Switzerland   6563  $ 0 959
Kris Kapitan   27386  8   MN   USA   6493  $ 0 962
Christopher Brenholtz   36149  14   IL   USA   6358  $ 0 957
Robert McDonald   36537  8   IL   USA   6298  $ 0 939
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on August 19, 2009, 07:20:29 PM
With the Homie and the Michigan State Champs still to be played, that 600 point lead is not insurmountable. 
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on September 25, 2009, 07:00:07 PM
I don't know if one of the Illinois players can catch Justin, but it is possible. As of Sept 25:

Justin Atwater-Taylor  KS    9868
David Nelson     IL  9063
Taylor Cimala   IL  8913
Matt Travis  IL 8463
Jeremy Rusco   KS  7978
Blaine Kinkel   SC 7955
Christopher Brenholtz   IL  7190
Tony Ferro    Switzerland 6975
Kris Kapitan  MN  6963
Chad Nelson    IA  6753
Robert McDonald  IL 6545

Three of the top five, and five of the top eleven AM open points leaders are from Illinois. Good job at scoring well in the big events.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on September 25, 2009, 09:53:57 PM
I was looking at the am grand points situation and I now have a new hero:

http://www.pdga.com/player-stats?PDGANum=32290

960 rated and he takes the easy win in Am Grand every chance he can.   ;D

I'm going to compete for the obelisk next year Tom.  I might even take an Innova sponsored trip to the Memorial, play Advanced, and get off to a fast start! 
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on September 26, 2009, 03:17:52 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on September 25, 2009, 07:00:07 PM
I don't know if one of the Illinois players can catch Justin, but it is possible. As of Sept 25:

Justin Atwater-Taylor  KS    9868
David Nelson     IL  9063
Taylor Cimala   IL  8913
Matt Travis  IL 8463
Jeremy Rusco   KS  7978
Blaine Kinkel   SC 7955
Christopher Brenholtz   IL  7190
Tony Ferro    Switzerland 6975
Kris Kapitan  MN  6963
Chad Nelson    IA  6753
Robert McDonald  IL 6545

Three of the top five, and five of the top eleven AM open points leaders are from Illinois. Good job at scoring well in the big events.


I am still putting the over/under at 11,777.  I don't think it will be hit, but I do think that there is another 1000 points out there available for the guys to go after. Dave is picking up 180 for IOS#4, and MT is getting 120 for the same event. Taylor has got another 56 in the bank from the Michigan State Championships.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: stpitner on October 02, 2009, 03:43:30 PM
Taylor took 3rd out of 15 for the Channahon tournament, that's a B-Tier, not sure what the final # of points would be there.  I submitted the TD report today, so all of my stuff will be up to date by the next ratings update.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on October 02, 2009, 11:21:45 PM
Justin (Atwater-Taylor) had a great season and is a good guy. I never want to lose and I went in to the year wanting to win, but he's a very deserving person.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tjdub26936 on October 05, 2009, 07:47:13 AM
Quote from: tacimala on October 02, 2009, 11:21:45 PM
Justin (Atwater-Taylor) had a great season and is a good guy. I never want to lose and I went in to the year wanting to win, but he's a very deserving person.

At Wildcat Springs, they took pictures of the top three finishers in each division during the awards.  The second place finisher (Chad Nelson, I think) held up a sign that said "Bagger" and an arrow pointing at Justin, which he didn't see until after the picture was taken.  When he saw it, he laughed like the rest of us.  He also said he is now moving up.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Dan Michler on October 05, 2009, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: tacimala on October 02, 2009, 11:21:45 PM
Justin (Atwater-Taylor) had a great season and is a good guy. I never want to lose and I went in to the year wanting to win, but he's a very deserving person.
Hey, the guy gets to go on tour with Avery Jenkins.  Thats tough to beat.  He said he's going to South Carolina to try shoot the qualifying rounds and attempt to play the USDGC.  He obviously has some time and money in the bank.


Tom, your over/under was on the high side there.  Nobody went all out and played 30+ events this year to try to buy a little obelisk trophy.  The economy might have something to do with that.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on October 05, 2009, 08:26:22 AM
Depending on what happens at Homies I am considering going to the A tier in California the week after and the A tier in Florida a month later. We shall see....
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Dan Michler on October 05, 2009, 08:48:09 AM
Those tourneys only had 34 and 21 advanced players last year.  Granted, the Florida event was only a B tier last year.  It would be cheaper to organize B tier (advanced division only) events at West Park every Saturday until you catch up.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on October 05, 2009, 09:13:42 AM
Scott, hook a brother up!
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on October 05, 2009, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on October 05, 2009, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: tacimala on October 02, 2009, 11:21:45 PM
Justin (Atwater-Taylor) had a great season and is a good guy. I never want to lose and I went in to the year wanting to win, but he's a very deserving person.
Hey, the guy gets to go on tour with Avery Jenkins.  Thats tough to beat.  He said he's going to South Carolina to try shoot the qualifying rounds and attempt to play the USDGC.  He obviously has some time and money in the bank.


Tom, your over/under was on the high side there.  Nobody went all out and played 30+ events this year to try to buy a little obelisk trophy.  The economy might have something to do with that.

Last year Chad Inman played 22 events and had 11,655 points.  I thought 11, 777 was a pretty reasonable number.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 05, 2009, 10:24:55 AM
The points obelisk is a world championship trophy.  If you have to go to California and Florida to win it, then you have to go to Florida and California.   :wav:
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 05, 2009, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: tacimala on October 05, 2009, 08:26:22 AM
Depending on what happens at Homies I am considering going to the A tier in California the week after and the A tier in Florida a month later. We shall see....


Wow Taylor. That is a complete 180 to what you were talking about at Channahon about your disc golf future?  ???    but good luck to ya if you do decide to go.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: tacimala on October 05, 2009, 06:53:11 PM
Yea I take a step back and then I get ambitious about it again haha. No change of plans for 2010 though buddy.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on October 25, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
After this weekend Dave Nelson is 295 points behind the Am Open leader.  He has a decent shot at catching the leader.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on November 26, 2009, 05:11:51 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on October 25, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
After this weekend Dave Nelson is 295 points behind the Am Open leader.  He has a decent shot at catching the leader.

By my count, it looks like Dave Nelson is 108 points behind the leader for the Advanced Points title going into this weekend.  It appears that Justin has moved to Pro and is not playing any more Am events. 

Even if Dave is the top finisher this weekend he is going to have to do some traveling.  Looks like Cold Turkey is full, and a top finish would give Dave 105 points.

Scott how about one more event?
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Chainmeister on November 26, 2009, 08:32:19 AM
If he throws the Diabetic Invitational lets make it a low entry, no payout event and all play advanced.  We can get Dave over the hump. Of course, he will still have to hit the chains.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Bruce Brakel on November 26, 2009, 10:21:03 PM
There used to be tournaments called Points Bonanza.  Super low entry fees and everyone just played for ratings and points.  With 20 players and a free course, you only need a $5 entry fee.  And then you offer just one amateur division, Advanced. 
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on November 28, 2009, 11:40:28 PM
Through Cold Turkey IV, Dave Nelson is 53 points back. Lake Bluff to Toledo: Four hours 45 minutes.   l  Lake Bluff to Dexter Michigan:  four hours 37 minutes. These times don't include the time change.  Add another hour to each.

Or Dave could head down to Tyler Tx to the Piney Woods Open.  Last year there were 30 advanced players and 148 players overall.  This one event would put Dave over the top.

Dave has got some decisions to make and some work to do.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: dana on November 30, 2009, 08:25:28 PM
Seal the deal, go to TX!

Pay for my flight and I'll go too :mellow:
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: stpitner on November 30, 2009, 11:13:07 PM
lol, tempting to run a Christmas Bonanza or something, but I need the time off badly!  Someone else would need to step in and TD it up :)
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: cjordan on December 02, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
dave is planning on going to toledo on his birthday for the tournament with a couple of friends. me and dave are planning on going to dexter for my birthday to finish off the points race. so lets all wish dave the best of luck trying to win overall points for the am division. that would be pretty awsome to have one of the best amatuer players in our backyard.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on December 05, 2009, 11:56:52 AM
It looks like the Hamilton points have been straightened out and the points from Ox Bow have been added.  Right now Dave is 75 points back with two events to go.

Good luck Dave!
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on December 13, 2009, 03:11:30 AM
Dave is now 60 points back with two weekends left in the year.  Good luck Dave, you can it done!
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Tom McManus on January 29, 2010, 01:01:15 AM
Final Results for 2009:

Finish   Player   State   Points
1   David Nelson     IL     10170 
2   Justin Atwater-Taylor     KS     10085 
3   Matt Travis     IL     9310 
4   Taylor Cimala     IL     9235 
5   Jeremy Rusco     KS     7978 
9   Christopher Brenholtz     IL     7410 
10   Robert McDonald     IL     7200 
14   Kenny Glassman     IL     6878 


Congrats to Dave, Matt, Taylor Chris, Bobby, and Kenny for the great showing in 2009.
Title: Re: 2009 Points Race
Post by: Chainmeister on January 29, 2010, 09:22:26 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on January 29, 2010, 01:01:15 AM
Final Results for 2009:

Finish   Player   State   Points
1   David Nelson     IL     10170 
2   Justin Atwater-Taylor     KS     10085 
3   Matt Travis     IL     9310 
4   Taylor Cimala     IL     9235 
5   Jeremy Rusco     KS     7978 
9   Christopher Brenholtz     IL     7410 
10   Robert McDonald     IL     7200 
14   Kenny Glassman     IL     6878 


Congrats to Dave, Matt, Taylor Chris, Bobby, and Kenny for the great showing in 2009.


Great job guys.  And Congrats to McManus for lapping the field in Am Grandmasters.