Monday qualifying is underway. I read that Dana Vicich is on his 3rd qualifying attempt after having restarted once and shooting a 71 in his 2nd round. Good luck Dana. Right now the top 5 are 65,67,67,68,69. Barsby is yet to post his score. Will Schusterick with the 65.
My 2009 USDGC sleeper....Cam Todd. He finished 2nd and 4th the last 2 times he competed here.
I guarantee the winner comes off of this list of players though (with past USDGC results)
Climo (3rd, 1st, 8th, 6th, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd)
Schultz (20th, 9th, 1st, 3rd, 6th, 1st, 2nd, 1st)
Nikko (27th)
Avery (2nd, 2nd, 4th, 25th, 19th, 63rd, 10th, 35th)
Feldberg (3rd, 3rd, 8th, 1st, 26th, 40th, 36th, 29th)
Doss (1st, 3rd, 14th, 6th, 30th)
Anthon (8th, 14th, 4th, 16th, 17th, 15th, 18th)
Rico (7th, 3rd, 7th, 12th, 20th, 6th, 27th, 11th)
Brinster (17th, 7th, 3rd, 12th, 18th, 52nd, 12th, 39th)
Cale (12th, 10th, 23rd, 25th)
Lundmark (18th, 19th, 9th, 15th, 25th)
Kallstrom (41st, 41st, 15th, 29th)
Orum (6th, 14th, 20th, 12th, 93rd, 91st)
McCray (3rd, 14th, 12th, 32nd, 10th, 34th, 15th, 10th)
Schweb (10th, 44th, 2nd, 5th, 4th, 15th, 20th, 19th)
Avery has clearly been the most consistent performer in the past 3 USDGC's and he's coming off his 1st World Title. I think he picks up his 1st USDGC title on Saturday. Climo, unbelievably, has never finished worst than 8th here, so don't expect him to be far off the pace.
Top 5 are now 63 (barsby), 65, 67,67,67. Dana still on the course.
Go Climo! He amazes me with how he can still keep up with the younger crowd!
Oscar Stenfelt is gonna win it 1000 rated 15 yr old.
Not a chance. This course requires some maturity.
Came close but couldn't finish. I was the Kevin Gregg of monday qualifying yesterday.
During my first 71, I shot a 29 on the front (-4). Going into 14 I was even on the back and I 4d that. I then 4d 16. Then I 5d 17 and 5d 18. My 4s on 14 and 16 were both bad putter upshots and missed putts in the circle. Wide open upshots less than 100 ft. I just kinda got worried about getting my pars and took 4s. On 17 I finally got my 3rd flick on the green and hit the basket with my jump putt. 18 threw OB off the tee and that was all she wrote.
During my 2nd 71 I was -1 going into 14 and proceeded to throw 3 drives DEEP. This hole has BUNCR OB. I never in my life would have thought that I would throw deep on that hole. I guess the juices were flowing (even after being on the course ALL day) and I messed up. After missing short I finally threw one in bounds and took a freakin 7. I then 5d 15 and finished 16, 17 and 18 all with 3s and shot another 71.
The weather was tough for most of the day, it rained pretty good all morning into the afternoon. The skips were big.
I was so close, 3-4 strokes are not that much on that course. I'm pretty disappointed, but I gave it my best. I was at the course at 8am and didn't leave until it was dark. Started 3 rounds, my first one I had to turn around after 10 because I threw a bunch of BUNCR OBs on that one.
Every single shot and every single hole gets your heart beating. It is unreal. There is not 1 chance to let up on the whole course. The moment you let up or loose focus, it can be over in a heartbeat. As I witnessed with myself and countless others during my 2.5 rounds.
Once the course dries up and the sun comes out, I expect to see some much better scores. My first 1.5 rounds in the rain were a grind. Thankfully, I had a caddy, Mike Moser helping me out.
While practicing the on Sat and Sun I threw my putter in on the beach hole, #6. I went to reach in for it cause it was only a few feet in. I reached in and a sharp pole or something cut the hell out of my right palm In the very center of my palm I've got about a 3/4ths of an inch gash. What hurt worse than that was losing my main throwing putter/jump putter. The cut was pretty nasty and I'm pretty sure that it was a rusty pole that got me. I finished my practice round and bloodied up my discs in the process. Then on Sunday I lost my main control driver on 18.
I'm probably gonna hang out and watch, maybe spot or caddy. We'll see. I'm looking forward to relaxing for a few days and playing some CASUAL golf in Charlotte. That golf yesterday was so unbelievably stressful and draining mentally and physically.
That sucks about the cut on your hand.
You gave it your best out there, wish things could have gone a little more your way. Hole 17 seems to claim alot of victims. Hopefully I'll be able to travel there one day and check that course out.
If anyone wants me to pick up 1st run USDGC Pro Bosses, let me know. $20 a piece. I can also pick up other discs/USDGC apparel.
can you send a pic of it or it is the first run star stamp
Quote from: dana on October 06, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
If anyone wants me to pick up 1st run USDGC Pro Bosses, let me know. $20 a piece. I can also pick up other discs/USDGC apparel.
I'll take one of those Bosses Dana. Thank you!
Don't have a picture, sorry! They are pretty cool. The white ones feel like they have a little star mixed into them.
I went to the player meeting/dinner tonight and damn do they treat the players/caddys/staff good. Player pack has an awesome huk lab sweatshirt, 2 dvds, a usdgc mug, snacks, $100 voucher for keen shoes, personalized shirt, personalized bag tag and some other random items.
As a thank you for letting me crash at his house, I'm caddyin for Matt Peckham (Innovan guy). He tees off at 8 somethin.
I'm really looking forward to seeing Cam Todd, Jesper Lundmark and some of the other top guys play this week.
Quote from: Stan the Blue Man on October 06, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
can you send a pic of it or it is the first run star stamp
Stan,
Check out ebay. There are already some pictures up of the disc. The $20 price from Dana is a very good price.
Link to pictures of Pro Boss w USDGC Stamp: http://shop.ebay.com/annarbordiscs/m.html
Sr, I've got one stowed away for you!
They've got a bunch of the new Innova disc, the Mako as well. I'd say it is pretty similiar to a Buzzz. Feels like a Coyote in the hand.
Everyone make sure they register to watch online, even if you don't plan on watching! www.usdgc.com
Watching the live feed online this morning. The sound barely works for me, I can't really hear anything, but that might just be my work computer. The quality of the footage is pretty decent. I just watched Mike Robinson park Hole 1 and could read his Iron Lion shirt quite easily. Its not been the most thrilling thing to watch though, as I have no clue who most of the players are or what the situation is. They could use some graphics to show you the Player/Hole/Score info to take this thing to the next level. Right now its pretty much just watching a bunch of random shots on the holes that they have cameras on. It does give you a pretty good perpective on some of the holes though and I think this would be fun to watch on Friday and Saturday when they are following the leaders.
On the live scoring update I can see some Japanese dude shot a 61 and Devan Owens is in with a 63 so far. On the course, McBeth is on track for a good round, -7 through 12 holes (par 68). Last year Doss won with a 61/55/62/58.
To adjust the sound, go to Start, Setting, Control Panel, Sounds and Audio Devices. Click on Volume, then click on Advanced. You'll need to adjust the Wave volume. That's what I did, at least, and I'm a complete moron when it comes to computers. The little bit I saw looked cool, though.
Quote from: Dan Michler on October 05, 2009, 11:53:53 AM
My 2009 USDGC sleeper....Cam Todd. -1 (seven back)
I guarantee the winner comes off of this list of players though (with past USDGC results)
Feldberg -9 leading
Schweb -9 leading
Nikko -6 (three back)
Schultz -5 (four back)
Doss -5 (four back)
Cale -4 (five back)
Brinster -3 (six back)
Orum -3 (six back)
Climo -2 (seven back)
McCray -2 (seven back)
Anthon E (nine back)
Rico +1 (ten back)
Avery +3 (TWELVE back)
Lundmark +4 (THIRTEEN back)
Kallstrom not playing
I love looking at the hole-by-hole scores. Almost any of those holes can jump up and bite the best players in the world. Holes 13-18 took alot of good rounds and threw them in the garbage today. Feldberg and Schwebby with clean cards. Orum took a 9 on the par 3 3rd hole and still shot 65 keeping him in the hunt. Nikko took some big numbers as well but fired a ton of birdies and is in the thick of it. I'd put low odds on anybody who shot worse than 63 today. That would mean this year's champion is going to be:
Feldberg, Schweb, Nikko, Barry, or Doss.
Mike Robinson put a 67 on the board to start the tourney. Nice work! 3 more of those and he'll be collecting a nice check on Saturday night.
While caddying for AO, I got to watch Avery who was on his card...And iIf you thought Feldberg was a bitch, Avery might just be a bigger one than him.
"There will be no BUNCR rule next year, I will make sure of that this winter" -Avery Jenkins
"They change the good holes and leave the bad ones"- Avery Jenkins
"I don't even know why this is still a hole (referring to 888, hole 13)" - Avery Jenkins
"This hole is terrible (referring to 10)" -Avery Jenkins
"There are no cars on golf courses! (after shanking a drive on 15)" -Avery Jenkins
HA! We heard it all from him already at the Rockford A tier and the Michigan Worlds. If he's not shooting well every course has major flaws. Clearly the USDGC course is no fluke. The only champions in the 11 years of the tournament are Climo, Schultz, Doss, Feldberg. Arguably the 4 best players in that timespan.
Quote from: dana on October 07, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
While caddying for AO, I got to watch Avery who was on his card...And iIf you thought Feldberg was a bitch, Avery might just be a bigger one than him.
"There will be no BUNCR rule next year, I will make sure of that this winter" -Avery Jenkins
"They change the good holes and leave the bad ones"- Avery Jenkins
"I don't even know why this is still a hole (referring to 888, hole 13)" - Avery Jenkins
"This hole is terrible (referring to 10)" -Avery Jenkins
"There are no cars on golf courses! (after shanking a drive on 15)" -Avery Jenkins
It's too bad he is such a D-BAG! He is one of my least favorite pros on tour. He loves the courses when he's winning and hates them when he's not playing good.
So Dana, you shot 71 twice in qualifying and then caddied for 2 dudes today who both shot 71 (Peckham and AO)? If I need a 71 out there, I know who to talk to. :D
He also ran an awesome tournament this summer and worked his butt off getting the course ready. I think he just goes at everything with a lot of intensity. Intense generosity, intense competitiveness, intense emotional immaturity.
Looks like sometime after yesterday's round someone explained the yellow rope thing to Garrett Gurthie. He improved his round by 14 throws from yesterday. >:D
More than likely he played both rounds the same -- went for everything -- and today he just got luckier with the skips, hops and rolls.
The perfect shot is an inch from heartbreak.
I watched Garret throw some 600+ foot shots in the distance prelims yesterday. Then he grabbed a disc and threw it probably 450 left handed.
Quote from: dana on October 08, 2009, 06:19:16 PM
The perfect shot is an inch from heartbreak.
I watched Garret throw some 600+ foot shots in the distance prelims yesterday. Then he grabbed a disc and threw it probably 450 left handed.
I palyed with Double G at Worlds in Michigan. He's a heck of a player and can huck that thing.
I watched some of the Todocast today. It was cool to see disc golf live in color. Hopefully enough people watch that they can afford to do it better next time. Wide World of Sports has nothing to fear from this production.
They are asking for donations. I'm not donating. I donate to church, cancer research, feeding the poor and quality higher education. I just can't elevate "disc golf live on the internet" to that level. But it was fun to see.
I liked it too, but I feel like I'm watching a telethon because every 5 minutes they are asking for money. "Oh we just got a note from someone asking about how they could donate"....no you didn't, that's just the only script you have! O0
I don't know what they have planned for the later rounds. I hope they follow the lead group or lead groups around the course and give more play by play. I think we should see less of the telethon or outdoor studio conversation. I think this could be done with the same budget. Send the limited cameras that they have walking around the course with the host.
The problem is getting the cable to the truck. On the far side of the pond, they don't have the uplink.
I think that's just a matter of having the right kind of camera and the right kind of truck. Some of the "I'm standing here live" TV news people go all over the courthouse cable free, but sometimes they have to be on the same side of the building as the truck. Sometimes they have to go out in the hallway and sometimes they can get a link in the courtroom. I think they have a dish on the truck that collects the signal from the camera. It probably costs a lot more per camera or truck. It probably also depends on the quality of the video you're trying to get.
I really noticed something the other day that I've noticed for years with the TV newspeople. Almost everyone looks better on TV. The news babes look like trailer trash in the courtroom but they look great on TV. Same with Terry Miller and Brian Mace! >:D
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on October 09, 2009, 02:02:39 PM
I think that's just a matter of having the right kind of camera and the right kind of truck. Some of the "I'm standing here live" TV news people go all over the courthouse cable free, but sometimes they have to be on the same side of the building as the truck. Sometimes they have to go out in the hallway and sometimes they can get a link in the courtroom. I think they have a dish on the truck that collects the signal from the camera. It probably costs a lot more per camera or truck. It probably also depends on the quality of the video you're trying to get.
I really noticed something the other day that I've noticed for years with the TV newspeople. Almost everyone looks better on TV. The news babes look like trailer trash in the courtroom but they look great on TV. Same with Terry Miller and Brian Mace! >:D
Well, I have never seen Terry in a courtroom so I am not sure about that. Even if I had seen him in a courtroom I may have ethical reasons to keep that to myself. I do think Terry looks good on the camera and is very composed before it. He has been one of the better talking heads on the webcast. That being said, I don't think anybody is about to drill a hole in the door of his hotel room and start shooting video. ::) You are right that the newsbabes look a lot better on TV. The TV trucks congregate outside City Hall in Chicago and I often seem them getting ready on the street. They don't look nearly as good as they do on TV. What I can't figure out is why do I always look worse whenever I am on video?
What would you do on this rules call?
Hole 10- Matt Dollar drives the green off the tee and puts it 20 feet from the pin. Note: you cannot see the green from the tee. Spotter incorrectly gives the red flag OB. Dollar then plays the layup area and then throws his shot across to the green. He is walking up to the green with his group and they see his original drive 20 ft from the pin and in bounds.
It depends on whether he called a provisional or just threw. It also depends on whether the TD has declared that the spotters are officials on their hole or merely helpful idiots.
If the spotters are officials, the disc IS out of bounds. An official has ruled. Deal with it. When Dollars sees that the disc appears to be in bounds the group cannot overrule an official but the official could reverse his call or Dollar could appeal to the TD or to the person designated by the TD to hear appeals if there is one. If Dollar gets the call reversed the rules are not clear on this, but fairness says the second throw is a no throw.
If the spotters are not officials, they have no authority to declare shots in bounds or out of bounds. They are just helpful idiots trying to save Dollar a little time. So then it comes down to whether Dollar declared the provisional. If he declared his second throw a provisional, it does not count. If he did not declare it, it was a practice throw.
This has been discussed before on PDGA.com. There has never been an FAQ on it. This is just my take as a professional, neutral arbiter of rules. If you ask Barish, he should say, "Wait, who's my client on this one?" It would be a fun one to post on PDGA.com if it has not been already.
Wait, I misread the question. What would I do? As either Dollar's opponent or the TD I would argue for ignoring any interpretation of the rules that would count the throw. The throw shouldn't count. The drafters of the rule got as far as thinking about caddies, but they've never grappled with helpful idiot spotters. If they had, the spotter's call would stand until overruled. As a TD, in situations that I know the rules drafters did not consider [because I was one of them for the current rules, i know what we considered] I apply the rules as they would be if we had thought about that.
The webcast needs to take advantage of existing technology:
http://franken.8k.com/cgi-bin/i/snlpic5.gif (http://franken.8k.com/cgi-bin/i/snlpic5.gif)
(actually, I need to credit Barish for reminding me about this recently. and btw, I forget how to insert an image directly....)
Quote from: Dan Michler on October 05, 2009, 11:53:53 AM
Climo (3rd, 1st, 8th, 6th, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd)
Schultz (20th, 9th, 1st, 3rd, 6th, 1st, 2nd, 1st)
Nikko (27th)
Avery (2nd, 2nd, 4th, 25th, 19th, 63rd, 10th, 35th)
Feldberg (3rd, 3rd, 8th, 1st, 26th, 40th, 36th, 29th)
Doss (1st, 3rd, 14th, 6th, 30th)
Anthon (8th, 14th, 4th, 16th, 17th, 15th, 18th)
Rico (7th, 3rd, 7th, 12th, 20th, 6th, 27th, 11th)
Brinster (17th, 7th, 3rd, 12th, 18th, 52nd, 12th, 39th)
Cale (12th, 10th, 23rd, 25th)
Lundmark (18th, 19th, 9th, 15th, 25th)
Kallstrom (41st, 41st, 15th, 29th)
Orum (6th, 14th, 20th, 12th, 93rd, 91st)
McCray (3rd, 14th, 12th, 32nd, 10th, 34th, 15th, 10th)
Schweb (10th, 44th, 2nd, 5th, 4th, 15th, 20th, 19th)
Phil Arthur, second place. I don't think he'll win it, but there he is.
For some highlights from CLASH go to
http://clashproductions.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc
I know Billy Crump is annoying but I watch it anyway ;)
Nikko won USDGC!
These USDGC Rocs are SWEET! Picked up some Champs and 1 Inn Color Star.
How about Anthons round? WOW. Feldberg made a big putt to hang on to 2nd on 18. He then told NIkko that he wouldnt be a real champion if he didnt go for his downhill death putt.
I watched all day. Between the video of (1,2,3,5,6, 17, & 18), the dots, the updated individual score cards, and the pdga live scoring this coverage was by far the best.
As it was all playing out I didn't think Anthon had a chance but he just kept shredding it. It would have been sweet if he could have stuck his first shot in for 2 on #17. Although i'm not a fan of Nikko i'm glad he beat Feldberg. I give some props to Nikko. He missed his first putt on #1 and had a nasty roll away and banged the putt. He missed another very makeable putt on #3. I thought he was going to blow up. At that point he was 4 back of Feldberg. I give the kid credit for keeping it together.
He missed putts on 17 and 14 as well. He kept it together really well. That kid has worked his ass off this year (really the past few years).
It was cool to see him park 16 with a Buzz I traded him and then he threw it on 18 off the tee.
Why were the scores so much lower on Saturday? No wind? Nikko is far from an underdog winner. He has ascended to the top tier of players earlier this year and I would not be suprised to see him completely take over this game in the next couple years. He lives, eats, and breathes this game. Anthon with a huge scoop up the leaderboard to cash out 3rd place $4,000. 2nd place Words and 3rd Place USDGC. Pretty good year.
Is Nikko worthy of Player of the Year? I believe he won the NT Points, correct? Plus the Memorial which is almost like a Major. Then USDGC. He was 1st or 2nd in over half the events he played this year.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on October 10, 2009, 02:54:27 PM
I watched all day. Between the video of (1,2,3,5,6, 17, & 18), the dots, the updated individual score cards, and the pdga live scoring this coverage was by far the best.
As it was all playing out I didn't think Anthon had a chance but he just kept shredding it. It would have been sweet if he could have stuck his first shot in for 2 on #17. Although i'm not a fan of Nikko i'm glad he beat Feldberg. I give some props to Nikko. He missed his first putt on #1 and had a nasty roll away and banged the putt. He missed another very makeable putt on #3. I thought he was going to blow up. At that point he was 4 back of Feldberg. I give the kid credit for keeping it together.
I don't know what it is, but I really can't stand the Nikko kid. He is a great player, but I just don't like his attitude and I really wish he wouldn't have won. The internet broadcast was an intersting experience though. Improvement could definately be used, but it was great either way. Maybe for next year, if they still have it they will be able to follow the lead group hole by hole that would be great.
Quote from: Dan Michler on October 11, 2009, 07:20:55 AM
Why were the scores so much lower on Saturday? No wind? Nikko is far from an underdog winner. He has ascended to the top tier of players earlier this year and I would not be suprised to see him completely take over this game in the next couple years. He lives, eats, and breathes this game. Anthon with a huge scoop up the leaderboard to cash out 3rd place $4,000. 2nd place Words and 3rd Place USDGC. Pretty good year.
Is Nikko worthy of Player of the Year? I believe he won the NT Points, correct? Plus the Memorial which is almost like a Major. Then USDGC. He was 1st or 2nd in over half the events he played this year.
There was very little wind on the course Saturday.
Nikko did win the NT Points and got a $2000 check on top of his $15000 payout. Nice weekend!
I would vote for him as player of the year. This topped it off.
I thought last year they abolished voting for POY and ROY, and instead adopted some kind of objective formula. (Because the previous year it seemed pretty clear who should win FROY, and then it was won by the wife of a member of the Board of Directors!)
QuoteWhy were the scores so much lower on Saturday?
Could be wrong, but I heard the grass was not cut on Saturday morning...Believe it or not, that definitely helps things out