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The 12th Annual Turkey Shoot Out
*** B-Tier Event *** Two Rounds of 24 Holes ***
Where: Ox Bow county park, Goshen, IN
When: Sunday November 15th, 2009
Time: 9:00 am players meeting / 9:30 am tee
Open: $50
Advanced: $40
Intermediate: $30
Recreational/Novice: $25
Non-PDGA members add $10 / $5 ace! / $5 ctp fund!
Minimum $500 added to pro purse!
First 40 entries will receive players packages!
Players who donate a full bag of clothing for Goodwill receive $5 off their entry fee.
Directions to Ox Bow: I-80/90 E (IN Toll Road) to Exit 72 (US 31 S) becomes US 20 E. Take US 33 E exit toward Goshen. At light (Meijer on Left) turn Left. Cross RR Tracks. Immediate Left on CR45. Immediate Right into park. Through toll gate, 1st Left towards soccer fields on Left, thru covered bridge, Left at shelter, over spillway, registration shelter on right. GOSHEN OBSERVES EASTERN STANDARD TIME AND WILL BE THE SAME AS MICHIGAN BUT ONE HOUR LATER THAN CHICAGO.
Contact Info:
Mike Zivanovic 219.484.8217 mike37270@gmail.com
Mike Myers 574.904.4117 mmyers3488@yahoo.com
Kevin Jones 574.339.1161 sfynkz@aol.com
Quote from: 600fthyzer on October 21, 2009, 12:06:43 PMGOSHEN OBSERVES EASTERN STANDARD TIME AND WILL BE THE SAME AS MICHIGAN BUT ONE HOUR LATER THAN CHICAGO.
When do we go back to Standard Time this year? November 1st? I forget what the new rule is.
November 1st is when we fall back an hour, so you'll have two weeks to get used to the time adjustment before this event, which will still be 1 hour ahead.
I thought the new rule was that Standard Time is always in effect unless the TD announces you're on Daylight Savings Time. Or is that the two meter rule?
It is nice to see tournaments in the Michiana region again. I read on the MichiganDGO e-mail group that you are planning on running four tournaments next year.
Quote from: 600fthyzer on October 21, 2009, 12:06:43 PMFirst 40 entries will receive players packages!
Isn't it a B tier requirement that all amateurs get player packs or is that one of the sanctioning requirements that the PDGA removed?
All amateurs are supposed to get a $10 value player pack at a B-tier.
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/09TourStandardsV1-2.pdf
Not ALL amateurs need players packs...we are doing the first 40 participates becuase we do not have enough sponsorship money to provide all ams with packs, we are trying to give maximum payout! For those of you thinking about coming PLEASE pre-reg online to ensure your player pack! Also, for those of you that have NOT played Ox Bow previously, if the week before is raining, come prepared for muddy conditions! It is tough to soak up the mud in that park for those of you that have played it...if you have any questions please contact any of the TD's listed on the bottom (myself included)
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on October 21, 2009, 01:55:37 PM
I thought the new rule was that Standard Time is always in effect unless the TD announces you're on Daylight Savings Time. Or is that the two meter rule?
It is nice to see tournaments in the Michiana region again. I read on the MichiganDGO e-mail group that you are planning on running four tournaments next year.
Also, if this event goes well we WILL be having more events in the year...we will most likely have an Ice Bowl (mike Z wants to run tournaments rather then play in them now, so hopefully he/we can promote the michiana area again like in the past) I am in the process of getting the privleges of the club site along with the other club affiliations so hopefully the MDGC will be back in action next year!
Quote from: 600fthyzer on October 21, 2009, 12:06:43 PM
Players who donate a full bag of clothing for Goodwill receive $5 off their entry fee.
How big is a bag? Just wondering how much to pack!
Quote from: mmyersdisc on November 02, 2009, 06:03:06 AM
Not ALL amateurs need players packs...we are doing the first 40 participates becuase we do not have enough sponsorship money to provide all ams with packs...
Certainly not all amateurs need player packs but it is a minimum 2009 PDGA standard that all B tiers provide amateurs with at least a $10 value player pack. I think it is commendable to try to get all the player packs sponsored. This is something that I have never been able to do. However, if you don't get all the packs sponsored it doesn't have to come out of your pocket. All player packs are considered part of the amateur payout to make your B tier minimum 100 percent payout to ams. You can also offer a different player pack to the first 40 that pre-reg if you want as long as everyone else gets at least a $10 value in their player pack.
The following is from the 2009 PDGA Tour Standards doc:
Table 1: 2009 PDGA Tier Standards Chart
National Tour / SuperTour / B Tier / C TierMin. Retail value of Amateur PlayersvPackage:
Not applicable / $25 / $10 / None
I have also attached the 2009 tour standards doc. Note that you have to be logged in to download it. It can also be found at: http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/09TourStandardsV1-2.pdf
Quote from: tacimala on November 02, 2009, 06:46:12 AM
Quote from: 600fthyzer on October 21, 2009, 12:06:43 PM
Players who donate a full bag of clothing for Goodwill receive $5 off their entry fee.
How big is a bag? Just wondering how much to pack!
A grocery bag will be sufficient enough...(plastic bag) We will also have a local news station out there broadcasting (it is finalized) Hope to see you guys there! hopefully we can get a full house!!!
Thank you on the info for the players packs...i will be sure to address that to the other guys...
I think I am attending. I will be at my girlfriends parents in Naperville that Saturday so the drive to Goshen shouldn't be that bad.
It's a little under 2 hours from Chicago if I recall correctly. I'll be heading over Saturday morning to get a practice round in before the tourney.
Is a stew being served again this year?
Quote from: tacimala on November 02, 2009, 12:15:03 PM
It's a little under 2 hours from Chicago if I recall correctly. I'll be heading over Saturday morning to get a practice round in before the tourney.
Is a stew being served again this year?
I don't drive as fast as Taylor, but I think it is about 2.5 hours, plus an hour for the time change.
Or it's the fact that you live a half hour north of me. :wub:
Quote from: tacimala on November 02, 2009, 01:20:58 PM
Or it's the fact that you live a half hour north of me. :wub:
I figure about 4 hours from my house, including the time change. I wish that I was a half hour from the city.
I haven't played it in a few years but I think Goshen is still worth the trip.
Quote from: Jon Brakel on November 02, 2009, 02:43:58 PM
I haven't played it in a few years but I think Goshen is still worth the trip.
it DEFINTELY is worth it! If you like wooded courses you will like Ox Bow...lunch WILL be served thanks to Kevin Jones Flooring Service...it will be garbage can stew...(yes doesn't that sound delightful? ^_^) I believe it is a little over 2 hours from chicago...you can take I80/90 there straight shot, take the US33 exit...not far from that exit....Um, if you guys are traveling far PLEASE pre-register online, we will give you the discount when you arrive if you have a bag of clothes, we already discussed that.....the saturday prior we will (or at least I will be) out setting the course up.....if you see some guys around introduce yourself 8) Hope to see you guys there! should be a great time! DRESS WARM! and bring extra towels!
bumping this to the top...only a week away folks!!! get your pre-registration in!!! Registration starts at 8AM!!! Try and get there before and practice!! Prepare for wet/muddy conditions...we will try our best to keep the course playable but it IS ox bow, and for those of you who know ox bow, knows its notorius for mud!! Hope to see everyone there!!!
I see registration is at 8 am. When do we tee off?
Quote from: AO on November 11, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I see registration is at 8 am. When do we tee off?
9:30 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on November 11, 2009, 03:03:32 PM
Quote from: AO on November 11, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I see registration is at 8 am. When do we tee off?
9:30 AM
he answered correct! LOL...its all on the flyer ;D thanks to everyone who has Pre-Registered so far!!!!
wish i could make it out there i just saw Nikko is signed up
Quote from: discin311 on November 14, 2009, 10:28:08 PM
wish i could make it out there i just saw Nikko is signed up
Was fortunate to see a few of his shots during the first round. Unreal! Think he shot a -13 or -14 the first round. Super nice kid with a hell of a disc golf future ahead of him.
Quote from: Sr. on November 16, 2009, 04:56:43 AM
Quote from: discin311 on November 14, 2009, 10:28:08 PM
wish i could make it out there i just saw Nikko is signed up
Was fortunate to see a few of his shots during the first round. Unreal! Think he shot a -13 or -14 the first round. Super nice kid with a hell of a disc golf future ahead of him.
it was SO fun watching him throw a roller down #14!!! The snap he puts on that disc was literally amazing...I wish I wouldn't have played and just watched the groups and enjoyed it for what it was...but starting with registration I got stressed out from un-organization and the 2nd round the stress of the tournament was affecting my round...its not big deal though, I still had fun and learned ALOT....im debating on continuing with events though, becuase mike Z is moving back to his hometown....did you enjoy the tournament at least? ....that food is getting at me today ;D
Great job Mike and crew! The tourney was well run and thanks for the lunch and water. I also think it was a good idea shortening up the longer holes the 2nd round. We would have never gotten done. Nikko showed why he is the #1 disc golfer in the World and absolutely smashed the entire Open field of 25. As for the CE Eagle and several of Nikko's discs I hope you get them back. And for those who complain....watch what you say to td's, organziers, and volunteers. These people spend their free time putting together something fun, competitive, and for you. Running a tournament takes a lot of time, thought, and effort. It is too bad when td's/volunteers stop running events because of a few rotten apples. Hopefully Mike countinues running tournaments. Thanks again Mike!
did nikkio lose them in water or what?
Quote from: discin311 on November 16, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
did nikkio lose them in water or what?
No...discs were stolen.
man am i tired of that shit! why do people steal discs? just so frustrating!!!
wow that is so lame i never just leave my bag on the ground so many dumb people out there
Quote from: discin311 on November 16, 2009, 03:18:58 PM
wow that is so lame i never just leave my bag on the ground so many dumb people out there
They were stolen out of Tournament Central....he had his disc organizer out and they were stolen from his selling stack...the CE Eagle was supposed to be a auction type thing for a friend of Mike Z's and it disappeared....its unfortunate that people have to steal little things to make themselves feel better. I hope guilt catches up to them or someone finds the theif, I don't know what was stolen from Nikko but the CE eagle was a dayglo yellow with rainbow stamp, brand new I believe so if anyone see's anyone trying to sell it here in the midwest tell me please!!
As for the tournament, I am glad you guys had fun! The holes HAD to be shortened, we were actually talking at dinner about what we would have done if we didn't think about shortening the holes....it would have not been fun! lol....hopefully our next event we will be alot more prepared, I know personally I will be, and hopefully I will be an Official so I don't need Mike Z there for it to be a PDGA event, he is moving back to his hometown in Munster so he will be back over with the Lemon Lake boys!
I would suggest having the group ahead spot for the group behind on holes 8, 12 and 14. After group A throws their upshot on holes 8 and 12, have the group behind tee off and spot for them. Group A finishes up, Group B throws upshots then spots for Group C and so on. On hole 14 you have to wait for them to tee off on 15, so instead have the group tee off on 14 before they tee off on 15. This could save about an hour on the round and leave time for two rounds from the longs.
Congrats to Frank Grimes for tying for FIRST place at the 12th annual Ox Bow tournament. Looks like a 903 was baggin.
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