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The Inaugural Mother Lode on the Mother Road will be a two day event this upcoming Spring.
Please welcome PARAGON as our Title Sponsor for this Springfield First!!!
Saturday will be 2 rounds - Lincoln North from the Blues and Lincoln South in the short pin positions - All Divisions with a Shotgun Start
Sunday will be 1 additional round for Advanced and above - Lincoln South in the long pin positions with a few tweaks and three additional holes - Staggered Start
Quote from: Jwt4412 on January 30, 2010, 07:57:06 PM
The Inaugural Mother Lode on the Mother Road will be a two day event this upcoming Spring.
Please welcome PARAGON as our Title Sponsor for this Springfield First!!!
Saturday will be 2 rounds - Lincoln North from the Blues and Lincoln South in the short pin positions - All Divisions with a Shotgun Start
Sunday will be 1 additional round for Advanced and above - Lincoln South in the long pin positions with a few tweaks and three additional holes - Staggered Start
Jim- Can you clarify? Are some groups only going to play two rounds?
Tom,
The second day is planned to be advanced and above... with a staggered start... We are going to really stretch out Lincoln Park and don't want to end up with the 45 minute to 1.5 hr delays that occurred at a recent 2 day event...
We are going to offer Spectator Prizes the second day for gallery followers - including a "Spectator Roc" that was donated by ZoneDriven and a Mach Lite made possible by DGA...
The first day - Everybody plays Lincoln North which has a Blue length layout and Lincoln Park South in the short pins..
On the second day - Advanced and above will play Lincoln South in the long tee positions with some changes... we will let people know their tee times the night before...
What is currently #9 - the longest hole on the top of the hill will have a new tee position in the woods another 60-75ft deeper and about 40' in front of the drop of in the woods... The new #14 in the woods across the top of the Lagoon will have a pin position across the opening that used to have the railroad ties and now has block retaining walls. Old #3 - New#4 will throw across the lagoon to a Titan on the second day. And the first three holes of North Course (old #15, #16, #18) will be thrown and stretched to their long positions. I forgot to mention that #17(old #12) will throw to the Alternate position of the next hole and #18 (old #14) will throw to #4 North's pin position. Douglas park will be open for those who carpooled who don't want be a part of a gallery.
Some of the better intermediates may want to play up in the other divisions (advanced or the masters) if they want to play the second day. To be honest that is my hope - the folks who really want to tackle Lincoln in its nastiest layout play up = cuz the course is going to play very hard with the new wooded holes and the new alternate positions...
As the TD, I am open to open up the third round to the intermediates but it could create significant delays... it is still early in the planning... I want everbody to enjoy the event, so if there is enough interest among the Interemediates to play the second day with Lincoln in a mood - Well, I am all for it - but Intermediate would start pretty early on Sunday Morning... Consider the floor open - Let's discuss:
Too bad INT and below couldnt play a shotgun start round at Douglas 8am Sunday. I realize that would take a few volunteers away from Lincoln for a few hours. I think 1-2 volunteers could handle that? 8am start would from the short tees would have players and volunteers back at Lincoln by noon to merch out and watch the last pro cards.
Quote from: dana on January 31, 2010, 05:21:16 PM
Too bad INT and below couldnt play a shotgun start round at Douglas 8am Sunday. I realize that would take a few volunteers away from Lincoln for a few hours. I think 1-2 volunteers could handle that? 8am start would from the short tees would have players and volunteers back at Lincoln by noon to merch out and watch the last pro cards.
We are going to need all the volunteers we have and then some as spotters for the Sunday Round... There are a lot of blind shots and a few shots that go in and out of the woods in the new layout. That said no reason somebody needing a fundraiser tourney can't get the use of Douglas Park on Sunday from the Park District and run a tourney themselves in the morning for the Intermediates and Recs. Wouldn't hurt our feelings.
Sounds like a primo opportunity for a GPO fundraiser... just sayin'
Several possibilities for Rec and Int. players. First, hopefully some of the top Int. will want to play up so they can get some experience playing advance level disc golfers on a challenging layout. Also more experienced Rec. or Int. disc golfer could organize singles or random draw doubles at Douglas in the morning. Sleep in and caddy for adv./pro disc golfer. Visit Abraham Lincoln Library on Sunday morning then come be part of the gallery at Lincoln Park on Sunday afternoon and have a chance to win prizes for being a spectator. Play 15 holes of Lincoln North against some buddies. Most of SDGC's volunteers will be focusing on having the Sunday round run smooth. Just some thoughts.
My suggestion is one division one champion :icon_joker:
Talk to the people runnin the GPO, maybe they might be interested?
Is added cash going to the pro division or will there be $ in the master division as well? Do you anticipate that the added amount will be more than $500?
Quote from: dana on February 01, 2010, 04:08:29 PM
Talk to the people runnin the GPO, maybe they might be interested?
Is added cash going to the pro division or will there be $ in the master division as well? Do you anticipate that the added amount will be more than $500?
Sent a note to Wilbur...
I figure it will split (500.00) based upon the total number of players playing in the Open Divisions... It's gonna be a total of $500.00 - Money is already sitting in the bank and Brad has been told... no matter how great a deal I come across don't give me the $500.00 until it is time for the payouts...
... if there is 40 Open, 5 Open Masters and 5 Open Women it will split... $400.00, $50.00 and $50.00
If a sponsor throws money at us and says it goes for payouts... we will honor that and it will get added...
2nd Day Layout...
The inner circle of 1, 2, and 3 North will play as A, B, & C...
A: Blue Teepad for #1 South - the Right Pin Position of #1 North
B: Blue Teepad of #2 North to the C Position of #2 North
C: Blue Teepad of #3 North to the B Position of #3 North (Parking Lot Pin)
1: Red Teepad for #1 South to the B-Long Postion of #1 South
2: Blue Teepad for #2 South to the B Position of #2 South (Valley Pin)
3: New Wooded Hole
4: Old #3 South from Blues across the Lagoon to the Club Titan
5: New hole across the meadow and up the hill into the woods
6: Old #4 but with a new Blue Teepad up on the hill in woods to the long pin
7: Old #5 Blues to the short position on hill's edge
8: Old #6 Blues to the long - blind basket to the right
9: Old #7 Island hole to the long pin position at the base of the hill
10: Old #8 Blues to long pin
11: Old #9 Blues to new pin positon back in the woods just in front of drop
12: Old #10 to new pin position in the woods to the left of current pins
13: Old #11 Blues to the deep position down the hill - dog leg left
14: New woods shot from Blue Position to Long Pin across the retaining walls
15: A short walk across the bridge to old #17 Blues to Long Position
16: Old #12 tee to Old #13 Alternate B Pin in the Valley
17: Old #13 tee to Old #13 A Position
18: Old #14 White Tee to #5 North Pin
The Inaugural Mother Lode on the Mother Road will be a two day event this upcoming Spring.
Please welcome PARAGON as our Title Sponsor for this Springfield First!!!
Saturday will be 2 rounds - Lincoln North from the Blues and Lincoln South in the short pin positions - All Divisions with a Shotgun Start
Sunday will be 1 additional round for Advanced and above - Lincoln South in the long pin positions with a few tweaks and three additional holes - Staggered Start
Preregistration is now open...
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GATEWAY will be hosting a non-sanctioned 1 round morning tourney over at Douglas Park that Sunday for those in carpools or who are going to stay for the Gallery and watch the Pros take on Lincoln when she is in a mood.
Host hotel with rates...
The HOJO is the host hotel... more info to follow. Basically $59.00 per night for Double Queens...
http://wr.wyndhamrewards.com/WyndhamRewards/control/Booking/check_avail?areaCode=2QBV&searchWithinMiles=10&areaType=1&destination=Springfield&state=IL&country=US&checkInDate=05/15&numberAdults=1&numberRooms=1&checkOutDate=05/16&numberChildren=0&numberBigChildren=0&rate=000&useWRPoints=false&promotionCode=&corporateCode=1000005546&iataNumber=&cid=&affilid=&partnerid=&variant=&id=09546&propBrandId=HJ&force_nostay=false&tab=tab2
There are smoking and non-smoking rooms available.
There will also be $1.00 a night camping available through the Springfield Park District...
If you use the hotel rate... please send me a PM and let me know how the process went for you...
Thanks, trotter.
PDGA page...
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9915
So, who's going?
Thinking bout heading on there from wisc here..
Here is a flyer - feel free to print and post at your local course or local brick and mortar or just hand to a friend...
http://www.discgolfclub.org/images/motherlode.gif (http://www.discgolfclub.org/images/motherlode.gif)
If you play in a division that is defined by age or gender and you want there to be a trophy disc for your division, be sure to pre-register three weeks in advance.
Or think, in the next 10 day or how about now?
You can register for the Mother Lode at www.discgolfclub.org/proshop
We are looking forward to seeing you in Springfield.
Throw Well,
trotter
vp sdgc
discgolfclub.org
Quote from: dana on January 31, 2010, 05:21:16 PM
Too bad INT and below couldnt play a shotgun start round at Douglas 8am Sunday. I realize that would take a few volunteers away from Lincoln for a few hours. I think 1-2 volunteers could handle that? 8am start would from the short tees would have players and volunteers back at Lincoln by noon to merch out and watch the last pro cards.
Gateway Paragon will be hosting a nonsanctioned event on the Sunday for Intermediate and below for folks in carpools or who want to come out for a quick round...
special discount ID number 1000005546 is the code if you use online reservations for HOJO - Link is on the sponsor list on front page of our website at www.discgolfclub.org
or you can call the hotel and give them the code "DISC" and do it over the phone @ 217-541-8762
Come on down and see us for this one... Hotels or Camping, $500.00 Added Cash, New Course on the North end of the park, New Wooded holes on the South end of the park. Remember on the Sunday, Gateway will be hosting a non-sanctioned event over at Douglas Park for the carpoolers not playing Advanced or above.
It's time to register for The Mother Lode on The Mother Road... B-tier with $500.00 added Cash!
You can do that online at http://discgolfclub.org/proshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=668
Springfield's first 2 day event is May 15th & 16th - Your early registration makes it easier to plan, set up and get the proper trophies made... You are always welcomed in Springpatch.
Regards,
The SDGC Team.
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When will pins be in tourney positions?
Quote from: dana on April 21, 2010, 08:24:18 AM
When will pins be in tourney positions?
Dana,
We are using multiple pin positions for the tourney - almost ever basket on the South Course will move from Saturday to Sunday... Only the new #3 and new # 5 will have only one layout - everything else moves. We will have the course laid out in the Saturday layout within the next 10 days. We will be having pvc pipes that come out of the ground about 3' marking the other pin layouts for the Sunday so any advanced or pro that comes and checks out the course early will be able to clearly see location and lines...
If you have suggestions - we are open to them - you tell me what makes it easier for you as a travelling pro to make the most of your pre-trip and we will do our best to have it done for you.
There will be some OB's marked with string during the tourney to seperate the courses and some of the fairways... There is still some consideration for mandos, but I lean against those... and we will have the 10m circles marked during the tourney.
Dear Illinois PDGA member,
We would love to have you come and see the good things happening at Lincoln Park in Springfield . Come and "Throw 36 on 66"...
The Mother Lode on The Mother Road is a two-day event for the Advanced and higher divisions and a Saturday only event for intermediate and lower...
On Saturday everybody plays both 18 holes course in Lincoln Park - the newly tweaked South/Gray course and the newly installed North/Blue course.
A non-sanctioned one round $15.00 tourney has been added to the schedule for Sunday, so if you are going to be in town because of your Mother Lode carpool - sneak a tourney round in at Douglas in the morning before catching some Gallery Action over at Lincoln Park South.
A special thanks goes out to Miles Parkhill, proprietor of PARAGON DISC GOLF for hosting this additional tourney at Douglas Park on Sunday Morning. Along with hosting the One Round at Douglas Park on Sunday, Paragon Disc Golf is the title sponsor of this B-tier.
Please check out www.paragondiscgolf.com for more information about the National Ace Bounty and how you can win $100.00 for your aces thrown in PDGA events during the calendar year with a single entry...
Registration for the Mother Lode and the One Round at Douglas on that Sunday can be done online here:
http://discgolfclub.org/proshop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9
FYI for those players who like to get some practice in before an event - all the baskets are in the first day tourney layout...
The South course is now in the new layout, so start following the new flow - this includes 3 new wooded holes...
Follow the NexTEES to the next hole. We are proud to announce that Lincoln Park is the first facility outside of the PDGA Headquarters to have NexTEES installed... We think you will love'em as much as we do. NexTEES are yellow arrow indicators installed at the base of the baskets that point you in the direction of the next tee area.
Here is what we have waiting for the Advanced and above for the second day of the event...
2nd Day Layout - 21 holes of Lincoln Park - South in a mood...
The inner circle of 1, 2, and 3 North will play as A, B, & C...
A: Asphalt parking area across the inner road across from #1 South - the Right Pin Position of #1 North
B: Blue Teepad of #2 North to the C Position of #2 North
C: Blue Teepad of #3 North to the B Position of #3 North (Parking Lot Pin)
1: Blue Teepad for #1 South to the B-Long Position of #1 South
2: Blue Teepad for #2 South to the B Position of #2 South (Valley Pin)
3: New Wooded Hole
4: Old #3 South from Blues across the Lagoon to the Club Titan
5: New hole across the meadow and up the hill into the woods - dual route
6: Old #4 but with a new Blue Teepad up on the hill in woods to the long pin
7: Old #5 Blues to the short position on hill's edge
8: Old #6 Blues to the long - blind basket to the right
9: Old #7 Island hole to the long pin position at the base of the hill
10: Old #8 Blues to long pin
11: Old #9 Blues to new pin position back in the woods just in front of drop
12: Old #10 to new pin position in the woods to the left of current pins
13: Old #11 Blues to the deep position down the hill - dog leg left
14: New woods shot from Blue Position to Long Pin across the retaining walls
15: A short walk across the bridge to old #17 Blues to Long Position
16: Old #12 tee to Old #13 Alternate B Pin in the Valley
17: Old #13 tee to Old #13 A Position
18: Old #14 White Tee to #5 North Pin - approx 950 feet.
Avoid the $5.00 day of registration fee and register early for the tourney in the club's online proshop - you can choose PayPal, credit card (see directions down the left side of the front page of the proshop), check, cash or money order...
Remember there is a non-sanctioned one round tourney on the Sunday for those staying in town because of carpools or for the locals who want to play - online registration for that event - $15.00 - so drag some friends along and split the gas and lodging.
The host hotel is the Howard Johnson which is just on the other side of Lincoln 's Tomb from Lincoln Park
LODGING:
http://wr.wyndhamrewards.com
Special discount ID number 1000005546 is the code if you use online reservations for the HOJO
or you can call the HOJO and give them the code "DISC" and do it over the phone @ 217-541-8762
The rate of $59.00 for 2 queens and $79.00 for suites has been confirmed.
CAMPING:
http://www.springfieldparks.org/facilities/riverside_camps.asp
Hope to see you here...
www.discgolfclub.org for more info.
Throw Well,
trotter
vp sdgc
discgolfclub.org
registration time is 8-9:30. Player meeting at 9:45 and tee-off at 10:15
OK guys and gals - need to know who is a coming. Please register early so we can have the computer loaded and as many of the scorecards prefilled as possible.
You can pay day of - but please register early to avoid the $5.00 day of registration fee...
That is all and hope to see you this weekend.
$500.00 added cash - come take our money...
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You in a carpool with guys or gals playing both days of the event but you are playing the one day of intermediate, novice or rec?
Non-Sanctioned tourney for you on Sunday Morning - 1 round at Douglas Park...
For anyone who hasn't been to Springfield, try and head down. The Springfield Disc Golf Club puts on a great event. The course at Lincoln Park is outstanding. It is one of the nicest disc golf settings in a city park.
Want to take this time to thank the weatherman for sponsoring this years Mother Lode...
Had some rain last night, looks like some rain to come on Wednesday night.... BUT the weekend is looking like partly sunny and 71 degrees on Saturday and 74 degrees with the partly sunny on the Sunday.
Come get you some...
Currently sitting at 46 48 pre-regs.
Your half of the 50/50 CTP would be $30.00 cash as of this hour.
What time are the rounds getting started on Sunday?
Tom,
As it stands right now... 10a.m. seems like when we have people start rolling out. If the field fills some more, we may start earlier.
Here are the Day 2 Distances...
393, 411, 392, 433, 360, 175 - wooded hole, 600, 180 - wooded uphill hole, 476, 268, 367, 320, 375, 765, 241, 547, 369 - wooded hole, 374, 372, 226, 969
Advanced and Open players will be challenged with this layout.
Course is in Saturday Layout...
Sunday Layout...
The pins are there and most of the alternate pins have a pvc pipe sticking up in them... I have a couple of more pipes to add...
For those coming in ahead of time to practice...
1 - moves to the long pin
2 - moves to the valley pin at the mouth of the woods
3 - same
4 - will be across the pond - there is a nook across the pond - right side of the fountain if you are facing the pond. I have to clear out some of the brush there, but that is where the Titan will be on Sunday
5 - same
6 - moves to the long pin just past the grouping of guardian trees on the hill side
7 - moves to the short position on the hillside edge just past the pine
8 - moves to the long position - blind tee - small area passed the tree line - it's sits about 25' from the banners the park district has up at the mouth of the park - center of the clearing.
9 - moves down the hill towards the Lincoln Park Entrance sign
10 - moves to the long - tight towards the inner road o.b.
11 - moves into the woods another 130' from the old pin - almost a direct line from the pads... if you go over the edge of hillside, you went too far...
12 - goes into the woods on the leftside it's back about 70' into the woods
13 - down at the base of the hillside in the downhill dogleg
14 - across the retaining wall amphitheater on the edge of the pathway overlooking the pond.
15 - around the corner along the inner road about halfway to the alternate pin for #13
16 - it will be in the pin position that 17 is sitting in for the Saturday round
17 - moves back up on the hill from the valley - left of current position
18 - you will throw from the white tee to the #5 basket on the north course.
Quote from: Jwt4412 on May 12, 2010, 08:39:47 PM
Course is in Saturday Layout...
Sunday Layout...
The pins are there and most of the alternate pins have a pvc pipe sticking up in them... I have a couple of more pipes to add...
For those coming in ahead of time to practice...
1 - moves to the long pin
2 - moves to the valley pin at the mouth of the woods
3 - same
4 - will be across the pond - there is a nook across the pond - right side of the fountain if you are facing the pond. I have to clear out some of the brush there, but that is where the Titan will be on Sunday
5 - same
6 - moves to the long pin just past the grouping of guardian trees on the hill side
7 - moves to the short position on the hillside edge just past the pine
8 - moves to the long position - blind tee - small area passed the tree line - it's sits about 25' from the banners the park district has up at the mouth of the park - center of the clearing.
9 - moves down the hill towards the Lincoln Park Entrance sign
10 - moves to the long - tight towards the inner road o.b.
11 - moves into the woods another 130' from the old pin - almost a direct line from the pads... if you go over the edge of hillside, you went too far...
12 - goes into the woods on the leftside it's back about 70' into the woods
13 - down at the base of the hillside in the downhill dogleg
14 - across the retaining wall amphitheater on the edge of the pathway overlooking the pond.
15 - around the corner along the inner road about halfway to the alternate pin for #13
16 - it will be in the pin position that 17 is sitting in for the Saturday round
17 - moves back up on the hill from the valley - left of current position
18 - you will throw from the white tee to the #5 basket on the north course.
The course is set up as it plays Saturday? And the list above is as it is going to play on Sunday? I just want to be sure I understand the plan.
Thanks,
Jim-
Is there a sports bar down there to watch the hockey game on friday night? Also, do you recall the name of the springfield restaurant that was featured on Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives?
Thanks,
Quote from: Tom McManus on May 13, 2010, 02:44:57 AM
Jim-
Is there a sports bar down there to watch the hockey game on friday night? Also, do you recall the name of the springfield restaurant that was featured on Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives?
Thanks,
I think it is called Charlie Parker's
Charlie Parker's.
One of the Cash Sponsors for the event is The Corner Pub and Grill - should be a good spot for the Hockey Game - I would think.
And the Course is set up for the Saturday Round now... after Saturday's rounds, a little army of volunteers moves the pins to the alternate locations for Sunday's round.
Kind of the same thing we would do for the ABE and the ABRAHAM - the non sanctioned tourneys we have when we move the course into its seasonal layouts.
52 pre-regs.
After today's showers, we are forcasted for PERFECT weather for this weekend. Mid-70's.
Just need to clarify... some questions were asked.
All of the Advanced divisions and all of the Open divisions - play both days.
And all those divisions are playing the same layout.
On Saturday - Intermediate is playing the White Tees with Rec and Novice playing the Red tees.
In what order do the divisions tee off on Sunday?
Advanced Masters will go out a little earlier then everyone else...
Advanced
Open Masters
Open
corner pub
3271 West Iles Avenue
Springfield IL
Charlie parker
open 6a-2p
700 West North Street
Springfield IL
United States
My fave diner is Jungle Jim's
nascar country. Owner's always there to strike up a convo
Good breakfast/lunch fast!
Only 4? Blocks from lincoln park
directly east of where new/old course meets on east side of Lincoln park.
6a-2p also
1923 North Peoria Road
Springfield IL
take it from a bloke who lived there for 8 years.
Thanks for the info Z.
whats the chance of being turned away day of?
Quote from: OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN on May 13, 2010, 11:35:57 PM
whats the chance of being turned away day of?
slim to none... to I might send a car to pick you up, I kid...
Come on down but I suggest registering online before 10pm tonight and save the $5.00
You can choose check,cash,moneyorder when you check out and just pay when you get here.... no worries.
Pre-Reg currently sits at 55
Well my ride just backed out. Good luck everyone
Pre-Reg is sitting at 61 - you have til 10pm to register tonight.
There will be day of registration, but there is a $5.00 fee.
TMLOTMR RESULTS:
OPEN - ROB STRASSER
OPEN MASTERS - SCRATCH
ADVANCED - KENNY GLASSMAN
ADVANCED MASTERS - PIRATE
INTERMEDIATE - MILES PARKHILL
RECREATIONAL - DANIEL ZEHR
NOVICE - TOM AUSTIN
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9915&year=2010&include_ratings=1#Open
Brett shot the hot round on the day 2 layout - shooting it even...
-Brett Comincioli (21 holes... par 67... rated round 1005) - THAT's a 1000+ rated round on a course that was set up at 8,600+ feet.
Nice shooting Brett!!!
Quote from: Jwt4412 on May 17, 2010, 05:02:09 AM
TMLOTMR RESULTS:
OPEN - ROB STRASSER
OPEN MASTERS - SCRATCH
ADVANCED - KENNY GLASSMAN
ADVANCED MASTERS - PIRATE
INTERMEDIATE - MILES PARKHILL
RECREATIONAL - DANIEL ZEHR
NOVICE - TOM AUSTIN
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9915&year=2010&include_ratings=1#Open
Brett shot the hot round on the day 2 layout - shooting it even...
-Brett Comincioli (21 holes... par 67... rated round 1005) - THAT's a 1000+ rated round on a course that was set up at 8,600+ feet.
Nice shooting Brett!!!
I don't think that the course as we played it is a par 67. We played 21 holes and there are at least 2 par 5s and at least 5 par 4s, maybe even 7 par 4s. I think if there had been some higher rated players on the course that the ratings would be higher for the same scores. That is one tough layout.
Hole #4 with the basket on the other side of the pond is outstanding. great course layout. There is one small pond in the park and there are two holes in which you have to throw over water.
I was definitely surprised about the ratings as well myself actually. Talking with Brett on the way back and looking at the bigger picture, I put his round at 1020-1030. We counted it up and pretty much best case scenario was around a 54 I believe.
Adjusted the course par to 69 after talking to a few people...
I've played with the pdga admin... no matter what I put the par at 67, 69 or 74... it kicks the rating back as 1005... it doesn't change.
Quote from: Jwt4412 on May 17, 2010, 06:57:09 PM
Adjusted the course par to 69 after talking to a few people...
I've played with the pdga admin... no matter what I put the par at 67, 69 or 74... it kicks the rating back as 1005... it doesn't change.
The rating and the par are two separate issues. the scores are the scores no matter the par. I just think if you are going to compare a score to par then somewhere around 74 is the correct number.
Par will not affect ratings. The number of holes may as it shifts the average hole score which can change how steep the line is drawn (i.e. rating points per throw).
A-3
B-3
C-3
1-3
2-3
3-3
4-4
5-3
6-4
7-3
8-3
9-3
10-3
11-4
12-3
13-4
14-4
15-3
16-3
17-3
18-5
70
It is a good conversation though... the goal was to make the hardest course available with the land that is there without making it long for the sake of being long... 18 would have been a lot more interesting if it wasn't raining and somebody could have dropped down a roller or two...
With the pin positions and distance on 11 and 18, I would almost up those both a stroke although realistically they are probably a 4.5 and 5.5 "par".
How many 2's were recorded on hole 3? I liked the hole, fwiw.
No way 18 is more than a par 5, Taylor.
Yea I'm hearing you, but it's one of those in between holes. I threw three good drives (yes I know, hard to believe after my drivers first round with you) and it left me in just enough range to jump putt from about 90 feet. This puts the hole at around 1,200 feet and not enough to make it a par 6, but it's definitely a par 5.
QuoteOriginally posted by hj70ft
For those interested the distance on Day 2 hole 18 was correct. I checked Bing maps using Bird's Eye view and did GPS measures and it came down to 971 on my calculations so his was right on at 969.
That one must have felt longer just due to the low ceilings on the throws.
Ben Douglas
PDGA# 33287
ABCDiscs.net
Ben actually double checked it... apparently folks were talking about it alot... The hole wheeled 969 down the left fairway and 974 down the right fairway...
The first almost half of that hole is an uphill grade...