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Title: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on May 08, 2011, 11:27:04 AM
The Rockford Open (B tier)

June 12, 2011

Anna Page Park
Rockford, IL

2 rounds of 22 holes, East & West Courses

Preregistration available through PDGA SIGN UP or
day of event registration from 8:00am-9:00am.
Players meeting at 9:15


DIVISIONS:

Pro Open Men $55
Pro Master Men $55
Pro Open Women $55

Advanced Men $45
Advanced Master Men $45
Advanced Grandmaster Men $45

Intermediate Men $35

Recreational Men $25

Juniors (16 & under) $15

Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Steven Jacobs on May 08, 2011, 12:16:20 PM
High entry fees...
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: dana on May 08, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
Not really.  Thats pretty normal for a B-tier....
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Bruce Brakel on May 08, 2011, 07:08:57 PM
You are both right.  High entry fees are pretty normal for a B-tier. 
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: smyith on May 09, 2011, 08:37:49 AM
seems odd to me to have this the same weekend as the Jainesville Jammer, which is supposed to be the 11-12th. (although iregestired says its just the 11th)
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Steven Jacobs on May 09, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: dana on May 08, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
Not really.  Thats pretty normal for a B-tier....

Opens only 5 over normal but adv is like 10 to 15 over normal.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Bruce Brakel on May 09, 2011, 02:03:57 PM
The real question is: what are you getting for your $45, or whatever the entry fee is.  If you look here and go to their website, all they are promising amateurs is two rounds of 22 holes.  That's a start, but its not enough for me to pack the car.  For what you get, I'd gladly pay twice as much to play the tournament in Milford, MI, that weekend. 

Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on May 09, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: Steven Jacobs on May 09, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: dana on May 08, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
Not really.  Thats pretty normal for a B-tier....

Opens only 5 over normal but adv is like 10 to 15 over normal.

Actually Open is the same price as IOS is charging for a Pro C-tier and Int is the same as an IOS, Rec is cheaper then an IOS same for juniors, the only one that costs more is ADV.

The Janesville thing is in Wisconsin, yeah its kinda close but a different state and it says it's on the 11th.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: DaBus85 on May 09, 2011, 03:13:43 PM
I don't see any where that says Janesville is a sanctioned tourney.  I see that it's being called the Chainsville Challenge now and is on the 11th.  Usually you don't have a sanctioned tourney the same day with in a certain radius.  So I don't see this being a problem.  As for costs I don't know much about that so I'm not going to comment on that.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Steven Jacobs on May 09, 2011, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: duain on May 09, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: Steven Jacobs on May 09, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: dana on May 08, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
Not really.  Thats pretty normal for a B-tier....

Opens only 5 over normal but adv is like 10 to 15 over normal.

Actually Open is the same price as IOS is charging for a Pro C-tier and Int is the same as an IOS, Rec is cheaper then an IOS same for juniors, the only one that costs more is ADV.

The Janesville thing is in Wisconsin, yeah its kinda close but a different state and it says it's on the 11th.

Wrong, Its 5 bucks less of those costs if u pre reg.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on May 09, 2011, 11:48:29 PM
Quote from: Steven Jacobs on May 09, 2011, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: duain on May 09, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: Steven Jacobs on May 09, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: dana on May 08, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
Not really.  Thats pretty normal for a B-tier....

Opens only 5 over normal but adv is like 10 to 15 over normal.

Actually Open is the same price as IOS is charging for a Pro C-tier and Int is the same as an IOS, Rec is cheaper then an IOS same for juniors, the only one that costs more is ADV.

The Janesville thing is in Wisconsin, yeah its kinda close but a different state and it says it's on the 11th.

Wrong, Its 5 bucks less of those costs if u pre reg.


Wrong, it's $2 less if you prereg, costs me $33 to prereg. which still makes it cheaper for most the divisions than an IOS and a Pro B-tier for same price as a IOS Pro C-tier....
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: pickax on May 10, 2011, 05:05:50 AM
I don't mean to detract from the thread here which should be for promoting the Rockford Open on the fine courses at Anna Page Park, but let's at least get the facts strait.

IOS: MA2 entry fee is $30. If you do it online, there is an additional $3 fee.
Rockford Open: MA2 entry fee is $35. If you do it online there is an additional $4 Fee.
Therefore the Rockford Open (for MA2)  is either $5 or $6 more depending on how you preregister. Only the Rec (no Novice?) and Jr divisions are cheaper at the Rockford Open. All other divisions are more costly.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on May 10, 2011, 06:37:15 AM
I agree with Mike about this thread Was suppose to be about promoting a tournament, but seems like someone is always nagging about something. The prices may be a couple dollars more IF you preregister, which most people don't.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: pdga#7648 on May 10, 2011, 06:57:41 AM
but most should pre reg. makes it easier on the TD's! and lets us start on time. if a bunch of day of registrations walk up at last minute, usually means the tourny don't start on time.

I think ALL tournys should be pre reg, or pay more $ the day of!
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: pdga#7648 on May 10, 2011, 07:19:53 AM
but yes, what a beautiful Park. that course on the right as you pull in is still a very sweet course. it has changed a little since the late 90's but still an awesome course.

I hope I can make it to this, but a couple of Indiana tournaments look a little better right now. will just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on May 10, 2011, 09:16:19 AM
What should the amateur player expect at this tournament for his entry fee?
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: RichardRudzena on May 10, 2011, 01:48:49 PM
I spoke with the boys from Rockford about this tournament and the shananagins that happened last year! I was profusely promised that that would NEVER happen again! If you don't know what i am referring to then don't worry about it HOWEVER for those that do know!!!!! It has been made very clear to me how they will be handling the tournament there this year!!! Dont Press the issue past this statement as far as admission goes...... If you like the course and think u cant beat it and the feild then PLAY who cares if its more or less then the IOS its NOT the IOS!!!!!!
Ill be there!!!!
It should be a great time!!!!
Chains should be well represented!!

check out the new website

Duain im gonna post the info on my site for this tourney!!!
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on May 10, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: RichardRudzena on May 10, 2011, 01:48:49 PMIf you like the course and think u cant beat it and the feild then PLAY who cares if its more or less then the IOS its NOT the IOS!!!!!!

Of course its not an IOS because none of the IOS people are running it. I've been to lots of good non-IOS tournaments.

It's a legitimate question to ask (and one that I get asked often) what the player will get for their entry fee.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: RichardRudzena on May 10, 2011, 03:11:00 PM
Scott,
I didnt mean that as a slight against the IOS they run a great seamless event! Im just sayin that it shouldnt be in the category as an IOS event! Cause its not one n people always wanna compare n bitch about this n that!! I'm not sayin I'm just saying!
HaHa
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Steven Jacobs on May 10, 2011, 08:18:57 PM
Moderator note: In interest of promoting the Rockford Open, any more Off-topic posts will be deleted on this thread.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on May 11, 2011, 09:22:53 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 10, 2011, 09:16:19 AM
What should the amateur player expect at this tournament for his entry fee?

So, to get things back on track how about I bump up my original question? This is a great opportunity for the guys putting on this event to highlight what they have planned. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Stan the Blue Man on May 11, 2011, 05:13:35 PM
Quote from: Steven Jacobs on May 11, 2011, 03:44:40 PM
Quote from: Steven Jacobs on May 10, 2011, 08:18:57 PM
Moderator note: In interest of promoting the Rockford Open, any more Off-topic posts will be deleted on this thread.

Seriously?  It's not like anyone is screaming their head off.

the point is that the Rockford guys are trying to promote a tournament so lets them do so


The Rockford Open (B tier)

June 12, 2011

Anna Page Park
Rockford, IL

2 rounds of 22 holes, East & West Courses

Preregistration available through PDGA SIGN UP or
day of event registration from 8:00am-9:00am.
Players meeting at 9:15


DIVISIONS:

Pro Open Men $55
Pro Master Men $55
Pro Open Women $55

Advanced Men $45
Advanced Master Men $45
Advanced Grandmaster Men $45

Intermediate Men $35

Recreational Men $25

Juniors (16 & under) $15
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Dan Michler on May 11, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
Stanley just dropped the hammer bomb on you Steven.  Recognize!
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Steven Jacobs on May 11, 2011, 09:24:51 PM
Quote from: Dan Michler on May 11, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
Stanley just dropped the hammer bomb on you Steven.  Recognize!
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: smyith on May 12, 2011, 04:49:28 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 11, 2011, 09:22:53 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 10, 2011, 09:16:19 AM
What should the amateur player expect at this tournament for his entry fee?

So, to get things back on track how about I bump up my original question? This is a great opportunity for the guys putting on this event to highlight what they have planned. Thanks!

id actually like to know this as well.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on May 18, 2011, 01:28:58 PM
What are the ams getting for their player pack for this event?
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on May 21, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 18, 2011, 01:28:58 PM
What are the ams getting for their player pack for this event?

Last I knew they were still discussing the contents of the players packs, I just promote the tourney on other forums. To find out try posting your question here:  http://grabm.proboards.com/index.cgi?

The baskets are in tournament positions now, for those who want to practice.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on May 21, 2011, 03:33:02 PM
Quote from: duain on May 21, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Jon Brakel on May 18, 2011, 01:28:58 PM
What are the ams getting for their player pack for this event?

Last I knew they were still discussing the contents of the players packs, I just promote the tourney on other forums. To find out try posting your question here:  http://grabm.proboards.com/index.cgi?

The baskets are in tournament positions now, for those who want to practice.

Thanks. I like to ask to find out what other tournaments are doing and because I know guys here want to know what to expect if they go. Sometimes I'm a little hesitant to post questions like that on other boards because often people think that my motive is to spam or flame but it is really just knowledge.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: RichardRudzena on June 04, 2011, 08:46:54 AM
where are the pin placements?
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on June 05, 2011, 08:43:43 AM
Quote from: RichardRudzena on June 04, 2011, 08:46:54 AM
where are the pin placements?

I plan on going up there to play this Thursday. I'll write them down and post them, unless someone beats me too it.

Basket 11 on the west course was stolen a week ago, so keep your ears open.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Sr. on June 09, 2011, 05:26:43 PM
After seeing the weather forecast I plan on going to this one. Rockford and Sterling are pretty Parks. Any word on the players pack yet Duain?
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: DiscGolfSchodt on June 09, 2011, 06:52:08 PM
I'm looking forward to this one. First tourney in about two years.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: DaBus85 on June 09, 2011, 11:19:15 PM
GRABM would have posted hole distances sooner but due to recent storms, we have had to move baskets according to tree clean-up.  Since most of the downed trees have been cleared all baskets are now in tournament positions again and are looking good.  Here are the distances for the courses.

East Course:

1. 289
2.  274
3. 285
4. 260
5. 407
6. 389
7. 466
8. 306
9. 260
10. 322
11. 334
12. 325
13. 385
14. 292
15. 528 (Pro Pad)
16. 385
17. 265
18. 355

Added Holes:
19. 500
20. 150
21. 280
22. 200

West Course:

1. 387
2. 402
3. 300
4. 267
5. 336
6. 444
7. 534
8. 327
9. 429
10. 600
11. 360
12. 735
13. 501
14. 351
15. 288
16. 297
17. 312
18. 321

Extra Holes:

6a. 320
6b. 380
12a. 310
12b. 

As for the players packs the GRABM Disc Golf Club is going to sponsor half of the packages to ensure that payouts are satisfactory and to make sure everyone has en enjoyable event.  The players pack is going to be 15 funny money dollars to be used at your discretion. 

If anyone has any suggestions for this event or for future events all input in greatly appreciated and we are always looking to improve upon what we have to offer and to make each and every tournament as great as it can be. 

We look forward to seeing everyone out there and plan to have a wonderful tournament. 
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: bThrowinaces on June 16, 2011, 02:01:26 PM
Thanks to all who came out to enjoy a beautiful day of golf!  http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/69231 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/69231) Here's the link to the scores.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Tom McManus on June 16, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: bThrowinaces on June 16, 2011, 02:01:26 PM
Thanks to all who came out to enjoy a beautiful day of golf!  http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/69231 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/69231) Here's the link to the scores.

Did intermediate play from different tees than the open players?
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: CEValkyrie on June 16, 2011, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Tom McManus on June 16, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: bThrowinaces on June 16, 2011, 02:01:26 PM
Thanks to all who came out to enjoy a beautiful day of golf!  http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/69231 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/69231) Here's the link to the scores.

Did intermediate play from different tees than the open players?

Those ratings are definitley not correct. Small discussion on Rich's facebook page.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on June 16, 2011, 03:38:27 PM
The pro payout doesn't seem to add up if it is based on $52 per player ($55 - $3 PDGA fee) plus $500 added.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Sr. on June 16, 2011, 03:51:37 PM
Same tees Tom.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: paulpriest on June 16, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
Obviously the intermediate players played opposite courses. Thus their first round scores correlate with the second round pro scores and the second round intermediate scores correlate with first round pro scores. Obvious discrepancy upon a cursory inspection. Also, averaging less than 1000 rated rounds wins open.  ::)
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on June 17, 2011, 08:20:20 AM
Advanced, Open, and juniors played the east course 1st and west course 2nd. All others played west course 1st and east course 2nd, that's why the ratings look different per round/division.


As for pro payouts, its $37 off after adding all open and masters up then subtracting what they won from total. I know it was readjusted at the tourney to be correct, but I'm a volunteer I don't handle payouts.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on June 18, 2011, 09:30:26 AM
Quote from: duain on June 17, 2011, 08:20:20 AM
Advanced, Open, and juniors played the east course 1st and west course 2nd. All others played west course 1st and east course 2nd, that's why the ratings look different per round/division.


As for pro payouts, its $37 off after adding all open and masters up then subtracting what they won from total. I know it was readjusted at the tourney to be correct, but I'm a volunteer I don't handle payouts.

They need to get the right groups of players on the correct courses for their rounds for ratings to be correct. Its not hard to fix. They just need to go online and set the courses correct for each round and div.

I just didn't add in the pro Masters $$$.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: duain on June 18, 2011, 12:18:04 PM
I agree Jon about getting it fixed online, I think it was a rush to get it posted cause so many people wanted the results now, not later. The person it states won INT with a 1048 rated round is wrong, he took 4th place. His 2nd round was a 67 not 57, Mike Truman is the person that won INT in Rockford and ADV in Janseville the day before. Hopefully they fix it sooner than later, but I'm not the TD so idk when.
Title: Re: The Rockford Open B-Tier
Post by: Jon Brakel on June 18, 2011, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: duain on June 18, 2011, 12:18:04 PM
I think it was a rush to get it posted cause so many people wanted the results now, not later.

Sorry about that.