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Title: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on September 30, 2011, 09:00:13 AM
In the American League I like Texas to beat Tampa Bay. I think their pitching will be too much for Tampa.
I like Detroit to win tonight with Verlander on the mound. But after that, I think the Yanks will win the series.
I then think Texas will get back to the World Series.


In the National league. I think Arizona will matchup with Milwaukee very well. Kennedy probably wins game #1, but after that it's a toss up. I really don't think the winner will be an upset, no matter who wins?

But in the other matchup, biased or not, I'll take the Cardinals. WHY?  They just went to Philly 3 weeks ago, and beat Lee, Oswalt and Halladay, their 3 best pitchers. Philly not playing very good at all until they went to Atlanta to end the season.. On the season St. Louis won 6 of 9 games.  They played very good ball the entire month of September, scored the most runs in the National League, and they have Pujols, Holliday, and Berkman in the middle of that lineup. If Lohse can beat Halladay tomorrow, Cards win in 4. If not, it goes to a game 5.
Hope to see a Milwaukee/St.Louis matchup to get to the World Series. A matchup of the 1982 Series, which of course the Cardinals won.  I really like the Cards chances. They are the hottest team of all the teams remaining. Whoever pulls it together in the month of September, usually goes on to get to or win the Series.

Lets go Cardinals! Pujols wont go anywhere and will probably settle for 25MIL a year for 8 years wearing another ring!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 30, 2011, 09:10:56 AM
I won't say it cannot or will not happen but the Phillies are well rested and set up pefrectly for the playoffs with their rotation. I expect the Phillies to win.

Miwaukee VS Phillies
Yankess VS TX

Phillies/Yankess WS

Phillies win it all.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 03, 2011, 06:10:28 AM
1-1 going back to St. Louis. going to get interesting now.  Phillies bats went cold after 1st inning yesterday. Cards bullpen pitched 6 scoreless innings after Carp was pulled after the 3rd. Cards chances of getting 1 at home look pretty good. And anything can happen in a game 5!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 05, 2011, 06:53:31 PM
Cardinals fan or not, Baseball fan or not, if you are not excited about Fridays game, something is wrong.

This sets up as a pitchers duel for sure. Probably the best in the game with Halladay, and then the BIG game pitcher we all love in St. Louis, Carpenter. Yea Carp got roughed up in game 2, but it was on 3 days rest for the 1st time in his career. He will have normal days rest for this game. Cardinals got to Halladay early for 3 runs in the 1st inning in game 1, they need to do the same in this game, and not let Roy get dialed in. If he does, Phillies win. But if the Cardinals can keep it close, then get into Phillies bullpen, advantage Redbirds.  As a baseball fan, you guys have to be watching the game come Friday night.  Be honest Dan, will you watch??
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 06, 2011, 05:20:58 AM
3 of the 4 series are going to Game 5's.  I can't believe baseball still has a 5 game series.  You build your team for a 162 game marathon, and then the season is decided in a 5 game sprint where anybody can beat anybody.  The NBA and NHL have 82 and 84 game seasons, but still have 7 games for the 1st round, plus they have an extra round in their playoffs!  Its so backwards.  5 games just isn't enough to decide who is better in baseball.  Chop the regular season down to 154 and beef up the playoffs.

Hopefully the Brewers can hang on to this thing.  At Miller Park is where they've made their living all year long.

The Yankees have a pretty good chance with Ivan Nova on the mound.  He's been great down the stretch.

The Phillies have Halladay on the mound in Philly for a deciding game.  They better win that or they'll face a major backlash.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: tacimala on October 06, 2011, 07:25:23 AM
I agree with you Dan, it's pretty silly to have an overly long season followed by the shortest playoffs in professional sports.

The squirrel was pretty funny last night.

Go Fister.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Tom McManus on October 06, 2011, 07:49:46 AM
Quote from: tacimala on October 06, 2011, 07:25:23 AM
I agree with you Dan, it's pretty silly to have an overly long season followed by the shortest playoffs in professional sports.

The squirrel was pretty funny last night.

Go Fister.

I might be wrong about this, but I thought for a brief time there were some early rounds of the nba playoffs that were best of three.

Baseball should go to seven games for all rounds.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: damonshort on October 06, 2011, 09:00:13 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on October 06, 2011, 07:49:46 AM
I might be wrong about this, but I thought for a brief time there were some early rounds of the nba playoffs that were best of three.

From 1947-1960, the first round was 3 games, then from 1975-1984. Everything went to best-of-7 in 2003.

That's from Wikipedia, so it may not be accurate.  8)
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 06, 2011, 11:36:53 AM
The Brewers Game 5 is at 4pm on Friday?  WTF is baseball doing?  Do they not want people to watch the games?  I understand they don't want it to overlap with the Cards/Phils game, but getting slapped with that time slot really sucks.  At least give it a 5pm start time and push the other game back to 8pm.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 06, 2011, 11:59:32 AM
I remember coming home from school in the 80's and catching the last of the World Series games, which used to always be played in the daytime. It sucks staying up until after 10pm to watch the last of a ball game, when work calls at 5am. This late in the year, being colder at night, all playoff games should be in the day. MLB probably doesn't really care about ratings anyway. The fans in the ballpark is what they count on!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 06, 2011, 12:02:45 PM
or you can do what I did on Tuesday, and leave work early  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Bruce Brakel on October 06, 2011, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: damonshort on October 06, 2011, 09:00:13 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on October 06, 2011, 07:49:46 AM
I might be wrong about this, but I thought for a brief time there were some early rounds of the nba playoffs that were best of three.

From 1947-1960, the first round was 3 games, then from 1975-1984. Everything went to best-of-7 in 2003.

That's from Wikipedia, so it may not be accurate.  8)
According to wikipedia, everything on wikipedia is accurate.   ::)
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: damonshort on October 06, 2011, 08:44:53 PM
It's harder to hate the Yankees now that Steinbrenner's gone and Girardi's the manager (although I liked Joe Torre), but it's still satisfying to see them eliminated.

Has Alex Rodriguez EVER done anything in the playoffs?

I've got no particular preference in the AL, hope the Brewers can pull it together tomorrow. I grew up as a Cardinals fan (in the QC, it's pretty split Cardinals/Cubs, with the occasional Sox fan, but back then the Cards had Musial, Brock, Gibson, etc. etc.so it was an easy choice) but I'm not anymore; but there's still some genetic reflex that makes me hope that they win tomorrow night.

But I'll be pulling for Milwaukee whether StL wins or not.

Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 07, 2011, 05:24:05 AM
Quote from: pdga#7648 on October 06, 2011, 11:59:32 AM
This late in the year, being colder at night, all playoff games should be in the day. MLB probably doesn't really care about ratings anyway. The fans in the ballpark is what they count on!

Yeah you're totally right Doug!  And the Super Bowl should be played at noon on a Tuesday!

If they didn't care about ratings, they wouldn't go to these lengths to make sure none of the games overlap?  And if they cared about fans in the ballpark, they wouldn't have a game at 2pm on a weekday in Tampa.  Ratings = $$$
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 07, 2011, 08:15:07 PM
okay, I may not know about ratings and money, but I do know Carpenter was Brilliant tonight!


Right on 3 of the 4, with the Yankees letting me down. But that just means we can move 1 closer to them with them now watching!


AWESOME night!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 08, 2011, 05:11:11 AM
Heck of a performance by Carpenter.  Tough way to lose for Philly.  Those fans are not going to be happy this offseason after having 3 Cy Young candidates and failing to get out of the 1st round.

Looking forward to Brewers/Cardinals.  I hope Detroit wins in the AL, although I really don't care much.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 11, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
12 runs on 17 hits! What pitching staff in Milwaukee??
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 16, 2011, 08:35:54 PM
Okay, I think things are safe. Tony can't let this lead get away!


Texas @ St. Louis

Cardinals already beat the best pitching staff in baseball in Philadelphia. As long as the starting pitching for the Cards goes deeper into games, they will beat the Rangers, for their 11th Title.
Regardless, a great season, and enough to get Albert to stay. He knows what a great team they will have next year getting Wainwright back.


GO CARDINALS!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 19, 2011, 08:18:53 PM
 :P
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: tacimala on October 20, 2011, 06:14:54 AM
Baseball is still on?
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 20, 2011, 07:10:23 AM
for the great team in St. Louis it is!  ;)
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 21, 2011, 05:13:06 AM
How you feel about the decision to take Motte out of that game, Doug?

It was strange.  I think LaRussa lets the 'genious' talk get to his head, causing him to overmanage games like this.  Its not the first time.

The way I see it, the Cardinals couldn't close a game to save their lives at the start of this season.  Motte bailed them out bigtime this year.  He's your closer and a big part of the reason you got here.  He throws the ball in the high 90's and strikes out about a batter per inning.  He gave up 2 singles to start the 9th inning in a 1-0 game.  Obviously, you need a strikeout or a popout in this situation.  You've got Hamilton at the plate who is no stranger to the whiff this postseason.  The last thing you'd consider in this situation is pulling your flame throwing closer after 2 batters to bring in a soft tossing lefty.  Wouldn't you agree?

If they leave Motte in I think they at least keep it 1-1 and go to extras.  Or if Pujols could make cutoff that any one of us probably could have made, it would have been extra innings.  Cards gave that game away.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 21, 2011, 07:20:51 AM
I don't think he should have taken Garcia out when he did, but that's Tony. He makes them situational decisions a little to often I think. But that's baseball. If Pujols cuts that ball of right, the game stayed 1-1 going into xtras. Yea, chalk that up as a give away game.

I still believe they are okay though. win 1 in Texas, then come back to St. Louis to win it the right way, in front of the fans!

And Motte already has the Cards record for saves in a postseason with 5. and he had pitched 9 innings with 9k's and 1 hit before last night, so he was due to blow one. That duck snort from Kinsler hurt. sounded like Motte broke his bat, so it was a good pitch. it just happened to find a hole. And Motte can't hold any runner close. that's how Kinsler was safe at 2nd, although a very close play!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 21, 2011, 07:25:27 AM
Now, one for you.
Can you believe Craig came in again and got the go ahead hit off Ogando? on what looked like the exact same pitch he hit in game 1?  all fastballs to him so far, and not 1 breaking ball. Ogando was an All Star starter wasn't he?  Pretty HUGE clutch hitting from a bench player!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 21, 2011, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: pdga#7648 on October 21, 2011, 07:20:51 AM

And Motte already has the Cards record for saves in a postseason with 5. and he had pitched 9 innings with 9k's and 1 hit before last night, so he was due to blow one. That duck snort from Kinsler hurt. sounded like Motte broke his bat, so it was a good pitch. it just happened to find a hole. And Motte can't hold any runner close. that's how Kinsler was safe at 2nd, although a very close play!


I agree with you on LaRussa making too many situational changes.  When it works out it seems like he's hailed as a genious.  Motte may have been due to blow a game, but what sucks for him is Tony didn't even give him the chance to NOT blow it by yanking him after 2 weak singles to lead it off!  And Tony's postgame comments seem to indicate he was conceding the tying run.  What kind of strategy is that?

The bats should liven up for both teams down in the Texas weather.  My gut feeling is St.Louis is destined to win this thing, but I'm still hoping I'm wrong.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 21, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
oh believe me Dan, Tony has left me scratching my head 100's of times. He saw Hamilton (lefty) and he knew he had the oldtimer Rhodes(lefty) warmed up, so he yanked Motte(righty)  was it wrong? probably,  can't really say it was that out of line though knowing how Tony does go with the statistics.  Hopefully to your point, it doesn't mess with Motte phsycologically, cause he has been lights out.

I agree, we will see more HR's in Texas. Hopefully it's from Pujols, Holliday and Berkman. Hamilton and Cruz can hit theirs, as long as the game is out of reach.  I really like Craig in the lineup now that it shifts to Texas. wheteher its in Left Field or the DH doesn't really matter, but I think it will be in Left. Holliday will DH.  But I must say, Cardinal Nation needs to be very happy if we can get a full season out of Freese. I think he can hit 20-25 HR's if healthy??

And, IF it gets back to St. Louis, yes I think they will win it. Of course they need that 1 win in Texas though. They don't hit lefty's well at all though, and they see 2 in a row coming up.   >:(
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 24, 2011, 08:18:51 PM
1-12 with risp, and 11 men left on base. don't deserve to win a game like that.

I think the Pujols Watch is about to begin.   :(
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 25, 2011, 02:18:55 AM
WTF was that Doug?  First of all, why is Tony sending runners every time Albert is at the plate?  The man just hit 3 jacks two days ago.  Let him swing the bat.  Its a lose-lose situation when you either run yourself out of the inning or leave first base open so they can pitch around him.  Just mind boggling.

Then this whole bullpen situation blows my mind.  Supposedly he called for Motte twice, but they didn't hear it?  Then that lefty pitches to Napoli?  Its like the Cardinals were paid to lose that game.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 25, 2011, 03:42:55 AM
I don't know Dan. The 9th inning it was 3-2 count on Pujols, he swung at ball 4, and Craig was thrown out at 2nd again! frustrating to watch, I'll say that!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: stpitner on October 25, 2011, 10:23:48 AM
Pujols was getting blasted by the guys on the radio for swinging at that pitch.  They kept saying that he needs to just trust his teammates to get the job done despite Holliday not doing much in the series.

I should have posted my predictions here - I did on mlb.com's fantasy thing.  I was decently close aside from thinking Tampa Bay would beat Texas and then I had Detroit in the Series against the Cards.  There's only one person left from that contest that still has a perfect bracket going.

I had:
Tampa In 4 (it was Texas in 4)
Detroit in 5 (correct)
Milwaukee in 4 (right team, but it was 5 games)
St. Louis in 4 (right team, but it was 5 games)

Next round I had Detroit in 6 (it was Texas in 6)
St. Louis in 7 (right team, but it was 6 games)

and then I unfortunately had Detroit in 7 to win it all, but if it winds up to be Texas in 7 I'll get a small moral victory woo lol.

It's tough picking how many games a series will be won in!  It's tough enough to get the winner.  I'd like to see Texas win since they lost it last year.  It's not easy to get there twice!  I didn't realize how well they had been playing as of late.  You don't typically think the Rangers when you think of contending teams.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 27, 2011, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: stpitner on October 25, 2011, 10:23:48 AM
Pujols was getting blasted by the guys on the radio for swinging at that pitch.  They kept saying that he needs to just trust his teammates to get the job done despite Holliday not doing much in the series.

I should have posted my predictions here - I did on mlb.com's fantasy thing.  I was decently close aside from thinking Tampa Bay would beat Texas and then I had Detroit in the Series against the Cards.  There's only one person left from that contest that still has a perfect bracket going.

I had:
Tampa In 4 (it was Texas in 4)
Detroit in 5 (correct)
Milwaukee in 4 (right team, but it was 5 games)
St. Louis in 4 (right team, but it was 5 games)

Next round I had Detroit in 6 (it was Texas in 6)
St. Louis in 7 (right team, but it was 6 games)

and then I unfortunately had Detroit in 7 to win it all, but if it winds up to be Texas in 7 I'll get a small moral victory woo lol.

It's tough picking how many games a series will be won in!  It's tough enough to get the winner.  I'd like to see Texas win since they lost it last year.  It's not easy to get there twice!  I didn't realize how well they had been playing as of late.  You don't typically think the Rangers when you think of contending teams.

go back to the original post. I didn't pick how many games, but I did pick the World Series teams.  ;)
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 27, 2011, 02:38:21 PM
on last nights rainout... Berkman said, I don't know why we didn't play?? The weather was worse for game #1??  Shut up Lance! This sets it up perfectly if Cards win tonights game! Carpenter can pitch another HUGE game!  Ask the Phillies how he did his last big game.  But this one would be for the Series Title!


I know I may be jumping the gun here, but gotta have hope.  Back in St. Louis, where it is alot colder than Texas. Balls wont fly as far in this game.  Garcia looked great in game #2. 7 IP, Zero earned runs. If he does that tonight, there will be a game #7 tomorrow! If not, still alot better season than we were predicted to have. And all this without Wainwright. Next year should be just as good.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 27, 2011, 09:45:20 PM
are you kidding me?  scored in the 8th, 9th, 10th, and 11th to win! 
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 04:58:19 AM
The best finish to a World Series game I have ever witnessed.  down 2 runs in the 9th, down to the last strike, and they tie it at 7. Down 9-7 in 10th, they down to last strike again, and get the hit to tie.
Cardinal fan or not, if your a baseball fan and didn't enjoy that game, go watch volleyball! That was a classic for all ages.

Come on Carpenter, bring it home tonight!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 28, 2011, 05:48:14 AM
I'd favor the Cards to win at home in Game 7, but its certainly not a foregone conclusion.  I keep hearing Texas won't be able to rebound after such a tough loss.  Remember the 2001 Series, when the Yankees had come-from-behind walk-off wins on back-to-back nights against Arizona, only to see the Dbacks win Games 6 and 7 to close it out.

Carpenter threw 101 pitches Monday night.  He's been solid in his 2 Series startes, but he's been far from dominant since that Game 5 to close out the Phils.

Texas has Harrison starting, but Derek Holland is waiting in the wings.  He's on normal rest and just pitched 8 1/3 shutout innings on Sunday.

I feel like its 60/40 the Cards will win.


As far as the Cardinal fans being the "best in baseball"...it was reported that thousands left after the Rangers got up 7-4 in the 7th inning.  That would never happen at Wrigley Field in a playoff game, we stay til the bitter end, just sayin'.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 07:11:32 AM
Holland just pitched last night, he wont come back!

but there was still 20,000 fans lining the streets after the game was over!

And honestly, do you really think Texas can overcome that?  They are mentally drained now. Their stud closer couldn't get it done, then Feldman choked.  I really don't see Texas coming back from that let down. Carp will be the Carp we know best, in big game situations!  I really think #11 happens in 2011!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 07:34:11 AM
I had my rally hat on and the rally squirrel in hand from the 8th inning on, and stayed up until 12:30 am when I had to be up at 5:30 am. 
and if only a few thousand left in the 7th, that still left over 40,000 there to witness a great finish, from their hometown kid, Freese!



I'd say it's more like 80/20 Cards win, if I was a betting man  :D
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 28, 2011, 08:28:49 AM
Quote from: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 07:34:11 AM
I had my rally hat on and the rally squirrel in hand from the 8th inning on, and stayed up until 12:30 am when I had to be up at 5:30 am. 

You had a rally squirrel in your hand huh?  Thats great....were the St.Louis fans jealous of the Angel's rally monkey or something?  Its hard to think of anything dumber than this....well except for maybe the 'Go Cubs Go' song and the 7th inning stretch guest conductor.  Please Mr. Eptsein, make those 2 'traditions' a thing of the past!  Time to class this place up a bit.
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 08:38:48 AM
  ;D    thanks Dan. yes, wife bought it before the series started.


but best news yet! I am leaving work at 11, and driving to St. Louis with a cousin. He paid $130 for standing room only in the NLCS. wonder what we will pay???
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 08:51:10 AM
and at least the Cardinals had a squirrel involved in their playoffs. did the Angels really have a monkey show up?
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 28, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
Watching the Cards go down in flames in person sounds like a good time!
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 09:33:11 AM
The home team has not lost a game 7 since 1979. Home team has won the last 8!  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: Dan Michler on October 28, 2011, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 09:33:11 AM
The home team has not lost a game 7 since 1979. Home team has won the last 8!  ;D

then the road team is due
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
you hope!   
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 01:50:51 PM
Quote from: Dan Michler on October 28, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
Watching the Cards go down in flames in person sounds like a good time!

nah, change of plans. not going down now. he just wanted to go down and party outside the stadium. I would rather save the money and just go down to watch the Parade next week!   ;D
Title: Re: 2011 MLB Playoffs
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 28, 2011, 08:08:36 PM
I know it's still the 8th, but we got this.


St.Louis Cardinals, Champions Again!  11th in 2011