Just noticed on PDGA.com that the number of points needed to receive an invite to 2012 Worlds was reduced to 500 points for both Open and Advanced. A lot of people will be qualified for this, so if you are going it will probably be a good idea to sign up sooner rather than later.
are you shittin me? >:( I tried so hard to get the 1,000 it usually is, all for nothing? that sucks!
Well, bottom line is that I am going, and know for sure that the invitees get the chance to sign up 1st, so I'm there. But still, could of been saving money instead of hitting these C-Tiers with 4-10 people in the division and wasting time.
If you guys are thinking about going and getting a hotel, I would start looking now. The Democratic National Convention is in Charlotte next year and it's the same weekend as Worlds. Many hotels are already getting booked and some residents are even leaving town for the week to rent out their condos. If you wait until a few months before the event you may not have a place to stay within short driving distance.
I think part of the reason they lowered the points requirement is because they're trying to make this be the first Worlds event to crack 1000 players. They have the courses, now they need the people.
Quote from: roman on October 23, 2011, 06:49:33 PM
If you guys are thinking about going and getting a hotel, I would start looking now. The Democratic National Convention is in Charlotte next year and it's the same weekend as Worlds.
Actually the convention isn't until September but it's still getting booked up early in preparation for it, apparently.
What a weekend in Charlotte. It was awesome playing in shorts Saturday. If you plan on playing worlds you better prepare yourself. These are by far the hardest collection of courses that I've played. If you can't keep it in the fairway you'll be busted up. Even without the green foilage these courses are thick and nasty. You'll need everything. You have to be able to throw a midrange long. If you can it's a great tool to attack them. I threw more thumbers, forehands, rollers, etc.. than I did the entire 2011 season. Upshots are a premium on these courses. To score birdies you have to make 2 really good throws and make a putt on many holes. An average or bad throw will add stroke after stroke. There are a ton of holes where you have to hit the landing zone. If you don't the chance of birdie is out of the picture. The greens are just nasty. You better be able to putt up and down. If you can't straddle putt you are in trouble.
Eastway--Good mix. It's one of the more open courses we played. Short tees play par 56. Long tees play par 60.
shorts 5557 ft. Longs 7335 ft.
Elon Angry Beaver-- Very fun course and difficult. Par 66 that plays 7000 ft. Don't let the first 2 holes fool you. It gets tough.
Elon Eager Beaver --The easiest of the course we played. Short tees play in the 3000 and the long tees play in the 4000. Running to finish before dark and throwing only Rocs and putters I shot a 48.
Hornets Nest-- We played the toughest setup. "Charlotte's Web" layout @ 9100' length and a par of 70. It is one of the toughest course that I've ever played. It will demoralize you! Check out the clash DVD. They played the short layout and were getting beat down. Bring the lube!
Idlewild-- Brand new course with 2 sweet water holes! This course is difficult. Almost every hole plays in the woods. Being new it's thick in there. 5686 ft. Par 58.
Killborne--The new Skillborne layout is fun but tough. The fairways are more forgiving than the other tighter courses. This course is mostly flat.
Nevin-- NASTY!! Just tunnel after tunnel with punishing rough. We played the longest layout. Par 63 7412 ft. – Par 68 8419 ft BRING THE LUBE!!!
There are a handul of shorter birdie ops but the par 4's and 5's will just punish you.
Renaissance-- Par 61 to 70. 6091 ft. – 9407 ft. The long layout is just brutal. There is a little bit of everything on this course. Long, short, open, tight, nasty greens. Did I mention nasty greens! Hole 18 is the best finishing hole I've ever seen to the long pin. Sick! Bring the lube!!!
Sugaw--This is the 2nd easiest course we played. 5520 ft playing as a par 54. It has quite a bit of out bounds near baskets and fairways. You'll have to make shots to play under par. Good mix of open and tight.
Sweet! Thanks for the course info Brett! I can't wait for July!
From downtown the majority of the courses are 25 minutes or less. Most are a pretty short drive.
Along with the nasty woods they use tons of out of bounds. They take huge metal stakes and drive them deep into the ground. They leave about a foot to 2 feet sticking out of the ground. . They take red duct tape and tape up the tops so you can see them. They do a pretty good job of outlining creek and other areas. There are a couple of areas where this will come into play at Squaw Creek once that gets going.
I was talking to Robert Leonard last night on Facebook. He's the state coordinator from NC. He said a 3rd party (non dg) is hosting worlds. I found that pretty interesting.
It was posted a couple weeks ago that the company hired to promote the event has also handled the local PGA Tour event in the past.
I've been down to Charlotte twice. All the courses I've seen there seem like good courses. Kelsey and I will be playing MA1. :o
1st schedule.
That is an absolutely nasty schedule for MA1. 5 different courses is crazy. Kilborne, Angry Beaver, and Hornet's Nest are all great courses.
I am pumped about the schedule I get to play. Renny is an awesome course. I also like Nevin as it really handcuffs the long throwers. At least I know those 2 courses. It'll give me some time to play Bradford.
Hoping to play this year. Who all is in from IL?
I hope to be able to attend.
i'm definitely playing
It's on my schedule, but didn't/won't get an invite for open so have to wait until it opens up. Not sure if the initial list is out yet.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on February 01, 2012, 02:25:34 PM
That is an absolutely nasty schedule for MA1. 5 different courses is crazy.
All Am's between the ages of 14 & 59 play five different courses.
I will be there for sure! already got the 10 days off of work!
I'll be there.
from looking at Bretts info on the courses, at least I get 1 easy course, Sugaw. So did you guys not see Winget and Reedy Creek Brett? I get Reedy 2 times!
I am playing. I am looking to go to NC in march to practice if anyone is interested.
Doug,
Paul said Reedy was in short placements right now for the winter so it was not worth going over the other courses that Brett hasn't seen.
Sugaw is nothing special, has a few tight holes but for the most part plays in a park setting with some mature trees to navigate around. Similar to Illinois courses. Paul mentioned SSA for Sugaw is 49, but almost every hole there is reachable for most people. Just stay in control of your drives.
Winget we didn't play because it was a bit out of the way and we were really trying to cram the nicer courses in. I am looking at the pictures of that course now and it looks like a lot of fun. Reminds me of Akita's Run in Missouri where again, every hole is reachable, but you have to be able to shape lines and hit gaps. You either hit your target and get up there for a putt or an easy 3, or you're scrambling to save par or bogey. Looks like a lot of cedars at Winget. If the 2 meter rule is in effect it can get some people.
That list is all we played Doug. Sun up to sun down both days.
Sugaw is a good course. Every hole is reachable if you can throw 360. Here are the results from the December event. It's a course you can shoot under par or over par. There is out of bounds that comes into play on quite a few holes.
http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/64850/Open
Keep in mind that the tourney Brett posted a link to was a breezy day and I hear some of the top pros had difficulties making their putts go in.
There are a ton of videos out there.
Renny Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdYsRZHxybQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Sugaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVIBJd1Ugo&feature=player_embedded#!
Hornets Nest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi0PbOBTJuA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
This was the easiest course that we played on the trip. Elon-Long Tees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6L16VkMbc
Did not get a chance to play Reedy Creek.
Front 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLVSHp6B68Q
Back 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sh7ZEao8tg
Here is Killborne. Not sure what layout is being played but the Skillborne layout is a beast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fISe97m3I
Eastway--Super fun course. Again. If all longs are played it's a beast! This shows the short tees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdQc1iA1reY
Course info-->There's only one layout being set up at each course for play by all divisions playing there with the exception of Eastway where there will be a shorter layout played by some divisions.
Wish I could go, but don't have a ride :(
Quote from: CEValkyrie on January 30, 2012, 09:33:12 AM
Elon Angry Beaver-- Very fun course and difficult. Par 66 that plays 7000 ft. Don't let the first 2 holes fool you. It gets tough.
Elon Eager Beaver --The easiest of the course we played. Short tees play in the 3000 and the long tees play in the 4000. Running to finish before dark and throwing only Rocs and putters I shot a 48.
Quote from: CEValkyrie on February 06, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
This was the easiest course that we played on the trip. Elon-Long Tees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6L16VkMbc
Is this video Elon-Eager Beaver-Long Tees?
Is Elon-Angry Beaver a different course at the same park?
Yes. It's Elon Eager Beaver. They just call it Elong Shorts & Longs down there.
The other course is the Angry Beaver.
Both Beavers are fun courses. We played them on Christmas.
Original Renny-- Check out the green of #8 at 3:13 followed by #9. You get a great look of #9 from above on the life guard chair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3BYjJABCo
Elon-Angry Beaver Hole #2
Looks like a pretty easy and ordinary hole. If that had missed the basket that disc was in the water and gone forever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpejTQ8AOSE
Renny Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQR3KDbRRLE
The Blake Hotel shows no rooms available on the reservation website. However, I called their reservation center ( 1-888-664-6835 using the identifier "Combined World Disc Golf Championships.") and was able to book a room for the week.
Ron
Yep, the website would show no rooms available because they have a bunch reserved for the disc golfers. You aren't going to get access to the reserved rooms unless you call and use that identifier.
the host hotel...http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g49022-d94085-Reviews-The_Blake_Hotel-Charlotte_North_Carolina.html (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g49022-d94085-Reviews-The_Blake_Hotel-Charlotte_North_Carolina.html)
Regiestered yesterday. Kansas City in 2009 had 922 combined players. Could this be the first year to get over 1,000 players?
We're going to rent a house instead of going the hotel route, is anyone familiar with the area able to recommend a few good areas? From what I quickly looked at, Uptown Charlotte was the hot spot, but looking for other suggestions as well.
You basically want to look anywhere south/southeast of uptown. Don't go west, north, or straight east (unless you get to the outer highway loop on the east side). Northeast is probably the worst you can do :)
Worlds pre-reg player list was posted, glad to see my name on there.
Already 334 Ams! Looked like ~120 Advanced, so almost half-full if they cut it off at 288 as advertised. It was posted that some of the age-protected divisions are already full and others are almost full. So, if you are invited to Am Worlds and are attending, you should probably make sure you get your money in before May 1 when they open it up to non-invited players. Its going to fill fast at that point.
Pros, not too many registered yet, so nothing to worry about.
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 22, 2012, 05:25:13 AM
Worlds pre-reg player list was posted, glad to see my name on there.
Already 334 Ams! Looked like ~120 Advanced, so almost half-full if they cut it off at 288 as advertised. It was posted that some of the age-protected divisions are already full and others are almost full. So, if you are invited to Am Worlds and are attending, you should probably make sure you get your money in before May 1 when they open it up to non-invited players. Its going to fill fast at that point.
Pros, not too many registered yet, so nothing to worry about.
Am Grandmaster is full.
Quote from: Tom McManus on March 22, 2012, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 22, 2012, 05:25:13 AMAlready 334 Ams! Looked like ~120 Advanced, so almost half-full if they cut it off at 288 as advertised. It was posted that some of the age-protected divisions are already full and others are almost full.
Am Grandmaster is full.
Adv: 134
Masters: 73
GMasters: 77
Wouldn't the cap for a division be 72? Are Grandmasters over? Are Masters?
If the cap is 90, that makes more sense: Grandmasters ( 77 ) + Grandmasters-Women ( 5 ) + Masters-Women ( 8 ) = 90. If that's the case, only 17 more spots for Masters.
Quote from: tjdub26936 on March 22, 2012, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on March 22, 2012, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 22, 2012, 05:25:13 AMAlready 334 Ams! Looked like ~120 Advanced, so almost half-full if they cut it off at 288 as advertised. It was posted that some of the age-protected divisions are already full and others are almost full.
Am Grandmaster is full.
Adv: 134
Masters: 73
GMasters: 77
Wouldn't the cap for a division be 72? Are Grandmasters over? Are Masters?
If the cap is 90, that makes more sense: Grandmasters ( 77 ) + Grandmasters-Women ( 5 ) + Masters-Women ( 8 ) = 90. If that's the case, only 17 more spots for Masters.
After Dan's post, I went to sign up and the adv grandmasters were shown as full, and I wasn't able to sign up for Adv. Grandmasters.
I got my tax return today. I'm payng for both. This tournament is gong to be HUGE! I want to be part of it.
Quote from: Tom McManus on March 22, 2012, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: tjdub26936 on March 22, 2012, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Tom McManus on March 22, 2012, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 22, 2012, 05:25:13 AMAlready 334 Ams! Looked like ~120 Advanced, so almost half-full if they cut it off at 288 as advertised. It was posted that some of the age-protected divisions are already full and others are almost full.
Am Grandmaster is full.
Adv: 134
Masters: 73
GMasters: 77
Wouldn't the cap for a division be 72? Are Grandmasters over? Are Masters?
If the cap is 90, that makes more sense: Grandmasters ( 77 ) + Grandmasters-Women ( 5 ) + Masters-Women ( 8 ) = 90. If that's the case, only 17 more spots for Masters.
After Dan's post, I went to sign up and the adv grandmasters were shown as full, and I wasn't able to sign up for Adv. Grandmasters.
... I guess it's a good thing I decided not to go anyhow....
Quote from: Tom McManus on March 22, 2012, 10:11:09 AMAfter Dan's post, I went to sign up and the adv grandmasters were shown as full, and I wasn't able to sign up for Adv. Grandmasters.
Fixed:
"MG1 and MS1 divisions increased at 2012 PDGA Worlds in Charlotte!
It seems that the "Graying of America" is also impacting the PDGA World Championships. Since the Amateur Grandmaster and Senior Grandmaster divisions have exploded with early registrants, the PDGA and Host Team from Charlotte have arranged to increase the available spots for those two divisions. The MG1 division will now be able to handle up to 108 players instead of only 72, and the MS1 division will now be able to handle up to 36 players instead of only 20.
The option to register for the MG1 division for 2012 Worlds is now once again available on the registration website at www.pdgasignup.com Any MG1 invitees who had registered for Advanced Masters previously and would like to move back to the MG1 division should drop an email to, or call, the PDGA Tour Manager at PDGA Headquarters.
The updated tentative course schedule (v1.4) is now available on the 2012 PDGA Worlds page."
Masters will cap out at 108 players. I was 72nd to register so it will fill I'd imagine. 73 as of today!
I just registered. Can't wait. This is going to be one big ass event!
I have to get the family pre-reg in. Kelsey and I are playing MA1. Twice. ;D
I got this off DGCR.
Ran the registration #s a few hours ago based on the PDGA web site. Only 79 spots left for Advanced, 5 for AM Masters, -1 for Grand (some slots created ?), and 7 for Sr Grand. Don't know how PDGA is going to shuffle divisions. If you want to play and have an invite, get your name up there--snooze and lose. Don't wait for May 1 registration.
There are over 700 players signed up already. I heard MA1--Advanced has less than 30 spots remaining.
There were 43 spots available in MA1 when I registered at 10:30 this morning. At this rate they will probably be filled by the weekend.
After this weeks update to the pre-registration list, the Women's division was two over it's limit, the Master's division had one spot left, and Grandmasters & Sr. Grandmasters had three spots left each. Plenty of room in the Junior divisions. Total pre-reg could top 600 by next week.
add 1 more available spot for the Masters. I am dropping out, I accepted cash at my 1st Open event. too expensive to do alone, as the dropping the points from 1,000 to 500 really hurt. No one without an invite will even be able to play, and my traveling partner needed to wait until May 1st when it's open to the public! 10 years in the advanced division was long enough I guess?
Registration page was updated, 656 Am pre-registered, 179 from North or South Carolina. Advanced & Advanced Masters have their full capacity listed, Advanced Grandmasters & Sr. Grandmasters are reported full too, but each has one open spot on the pre-registration. Wait lists have supposedly been started.
Pro Open is almost half full, plenty of Am's who were shut out will likely register when the flood gates open on May 1st. Barry Schultz is playing Masters, wonder if Climo will too.
Just checked the registration list.
675 Ams
236 Pros
911 Total.
I believe Des Moines Worlds was the largest at 911.
DAMN!!
Pretty good write up on PDGA.com. Worlds will be FULL soon!
http://www.pdga.com/pros-lose-worlds-opportunity
Brett, looks like they moved the article. Try this link. http://www.pdga.com/2012worlds/pros-lose-worlds-opportunity
Worlds is looking for experienced TDs, by the way. They currently have a TD shortage.
Wait list has been posted.
http://www.pixsvr.com/pics/pdgasignup/2012/PDGA%20Worlds%2012%20-%20WAITLIST.pdf
Worlds is SOLD OUT!!!!
This is a shout out to Steve Jacobs, Michael Baranowski and Spencer Wilkin:
If you don't have a partner for Mixed Doubles and you would like to play the Mixed Doubles, Diana is looking for a partner. The Mixed Doubles is on the Saturday before the before the tournament so you'd have to plan on being there that early. I think Diana will pay your entry fee.
Quote from: Bruce Brakel on May 08, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
This is a shout out to Steve Jacobs, Michael Baranowski and Spencer Wilkin:
If you don't have a partner for Mixed Doubles and you would like to play the Mixed Doubles, Diana is looking for a partner. The Mixed Doubles is on the Saturday before the before the tournament so you'd have to plan on being there that early. I think Diana will pay your entry fee.
I didn't make the Finals cut for the Diana Brakel MD partner sweepstakes? Damn.
No offense. I either missed your name or did not scroll far enough?
How about some of these Pros that are upset about being shutout of Worlds? They whine endlessly that there isn't enough money in disc golf and the fields are too small and all these Advanced players should have to play Pro instead of receiving big prizes in the Am divisions. Then when this actually happens they are pissed off because they were too lazy to register within the 2 month window they were provided and they expect a special exemption (like they are Tiger Woods or somebody special) to allow them into the tournament over a lesser rated player who eagerly signed up for the tournament the second a spot became available. I guess its just never good enough!
I guess every TD for big events should be given a list of the top 50 Pros and their phone numbers. They should have to call them each individually to make sure all of their needs are taken care of prior to the event. Its only common courtesy.
This comes as no surprise. Anyone that didn't think this event would sell out was a fool. The wave of whning started with the MA1 divsion flling then it went to some of the age protected. There have been multiple discussions across all the divsions of pissed off people not getting in. It's been some enjoyable reading.
pros whining ? nooooooo way !!!
I can not believe it.
How about some of these Pros that are upset about being shutout of Worlds?
sounds like they need to start there own worlds then Xproworlds
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 06, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
Worlds is SOLD OUT!!!!
1,095 on the pre-registration list, 200+ on the wait list
WOW! That wait list is HUGE!!
Quote from: CEValkyrie on June 21, 2012, 06:16:22 PM
WOW! That wait list is HUGE!!
I wonder if a person that has accepted their invitation and sent in their registration could sell their seat to Worlds? Or could they give it away when they sell their accomodations? Just curious...
Anthon posting on Facebook that he offered $1000 to get in the tournament, but was shut down. I'm not sure how you can feel sorry for the guy when he couldn't take a few minutes to sign up for the damn tournament when he had 2 months to do so. I wish they could get him in since he's such a talented player, but I'm not down with him and others trying to send some of the Ams who are registered in Open on some sort of guilt trip for taking up Josh Anthon's spot. They deserve to go have a great time. They probably already reserved hotels, put up the $215 entry, and scheduled time off from work. But they are supposed to step aside now?
Perhaps the PDGA should set aside 4 spots until July 1 for players holding a Touring Card who didn't get registered in time. But then if they do that, you know there'd even more of these guys that would be lazy about registering in time, assuming their spot would be guaranteed because of the reserved spots. I'm not sure what the solution would be to make sure all these guys get registered. Its already an invitational tournament. I just wish the invited players would sign the hell up.
My brother told me I was taking up a spot when I played at lemon lake, They took my money so I felt I deserved to play . I played like the player I am. Chucker .but I was not the open master player that delayed the start of gold rounds both days. that was Murphy and reese.
Any Worlds attendees interested in a competitive practice round on Monday (7/16) morning? Elon-Angry Beaver, Hornet's Nest, or even Winget works for me. Play for tags, side bets, whatever.
Those courses won't for me really, but would enjoy getting a round in Tyler!
My practice schedule is looking like Renny and Hornets Nest on Saturday, Nevin Sunday and Bradford Monday. Nevin and Bradford may get switched around, but that's the general look.
Quote from: tjdub26936 on May 17, 2012, 02:50:22 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on May 06, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
Worlds is SOLD OUT!!!!
1,095 on the pre-registration list, 200+ on the wait list
Pre-registration at 1,092, wait list down to about 112. This old wait list won't be used after Saturday night, instead the PDGA will start a "confirmed on-site" wait list for people who show up at player check-in.
Looks like almost 100 people made it in off the original wait list.
Climo moved from Open to Masters.
Any word on when the pool assignments will be posted? It seems like I recall seeing this information during the week leading up to the tournament in past years. Not that its urgent I know now, but it would be nice to know when your playing the 1st two days.
Right now I'm planning on hitting Hornets Nest Sunday night, then Kilborne and Robert Smith on Monday morning.
Just printed off the course maps. I'm going to get destroyed. If I can finish in the top 150 I'll consider it a success.
And good luck to all the Illinois players out there next week! We've got several really good players attending both the Pro and Am side, so hopefully we have a good collective showing.
The pools are posted:
Advanced
K Michael Baranowski
K Steven Jacobs
K Chad Nelson
M Douglas Buettgen
M Roman Korol
N Ray Hill
N Daniel Michler
Open
A Dana Vicich
B Taylor Cimala
B Brett Comincioli
B Kenny Glassman
B David Naspinski
Huebner's in R for Adv Grand Masters & I'm in P for Adv Masters
Quote from: tjdub26936 on July 10, 2012, 01:48:57 PM
The pools are posted:
Advanced
K Michael Baranowski
K Steven Jacobs
K Chad Nelson
M Douglas Buettgen
M Roman Korol
N Ray Hill
N Daniel Michler
Open
A Dana Vicich
B Taylor Cimala
B Brett Comincioli
B Kenny Glassman
B David Naspinski
Huebner's in R for Adv Grand Masters & I'm in P for Adv Masters
Good luck to all! If anyone has the time or inclination it would be nice to get some updates posted here.
Good luck guys! Like Tom said, keep us posted if you can!
Kick some ass Illinois! I'll be rooting for all of you! Good luck!
Kind of weird to have pools right away considering round 1 is tee times. I just hope I get a later morning tee time on Tuesday so I have one day to sleep in a little!
Quote from: tacimala on July 11, 2012, 09:36:27 AM
Kind of weird to have pools right away considering round 1 is tee times. I just hope I get a later morning tee time on Tuesday so I have one day to sleep in a little!
I agree, why not just sort the Pros after Round 1. They are giving you guys almost no chance to play with an elite player this way. I don't get that philosophy. I understand having a 'marquis' group for people to follow, but why not mix it up a little after that.
I'm in N Pool with Bruce, Kelsey, and Ray Hill.
They didn't even sort by rating, so who knows how that all went. My guess is that they still might do one big pool for the first round for tee times. Leaving tomorrow at 6am for Idlewild!
Played Idlewild in Burlington, KY on the way to Charlotte today. It lived up to the hype. As good as any course I've ever played. Its got everything and its also super fun to play.
Idlewild is sick Dan!
I met Doug and Steven in Cincy on Thursday. We got a chance to play Mt. Airy. That is a great course too.
We got into town early afternoon on Friday. Doug, Steven, Paul, Mike, & and I played Hornet's Nest. Great layout and super fun. We got rained on the entire back 9. We played Nevin that night in great conditions.
This is by far the best Worlds I've been to and it hasn't even started. The courses are just sick! The house we rented is absolutely awesome! Should be a great week.
We have the putting finals dialed up on the TV. Steven Jacobs is on Disc Golf Planet TV right now.
Got into Charlotte today just in time to check-in before it closed at 5pm. Didn't see too many players at check-in, but Climo/Feldberg did roll in right as we were leaving. Always cool to see the big dogs of disc golf. My daughter tried her best to steal some plastic at the vendor setup. Player pack was okay. Pretty typical from what I've seen at other Worlds. Best disc was a Nate Doss Titanium Nuke.
Immediately headed out to Hornets Nest. Its in a very nice well maintained multi-use park. Course has a bunch of tight tunnel shots. Not much in the way of nasty schule. It was definitely a fun round. Played with some Grandmaster player who won his division in the distance comp with a 576 ft drive. There are a bunch of holes you can deuce, I wouldn't call it extremely demanding, but it can definitely mess you up pretty bad on a number of holes. A lot of elevated baskets, so I'm prepared to get my 3-putt on.
Pumped to be in Charlotte!
Good luck to all the locals. Keep the updates coming. It is nice to get some first hand accounts of the action. Congrats to Steven for the under 19 doubles win and to making it to the final 8 in the putting competition.
Player meeting was monsterous last night. I've never seen anything like it in disc golf. The Charlotte Club is unreal.
Started off pretty good today on the front 9 at Renny. Shot a 28 which included a bogey 4 on #6. Total meltdown on the back. Missed 6 of the 9 fairways from the tee which cost me dearly. 44 whopping strokes on the back. Brutal!!!! Played with Taylor and he shot pretty darn good. Saw Kenny finish up on #18. He had a sick 3rd shot to secure his birdie 4.
This house is awesome to come back to. Been working on my tan all week. The 9 of us are having a blast here.
Sat and watched hole 18 at Renny after lunch today for a few hours. Saw just as many 7-9s as I did 4's, it was pretty wild to see people go OB time after time and tin cup it. Henry Childres was on the card with Brett and I today and he played great. Shot a 61 and hit the band twice from around 20. Fun to watch someone that knows the course and has the tools to do well. Nevin and Bradford tomorrow.
One thing I forgot. The tee times were posted at 1100pm for pros and around 1130pm for Ams. Super lame. At Renny we had tee times. There was no one there to start us. We just went when we thought it was time. Lame! Speaking of lame, no sort of pools after the 1st round.
I just saw a tweet from PDGA that Pro Mike Johansen shot -17 (41) in round 2?? He birdied every hole except 12. WOW!
Been following the scores guys, good job today! look forward to the report.
pretty sick round by MJ 1112 rated i could only dream of that
I walked the course with the Pros today that MJ shot the 1112 rated round on. Most of the holes are super tight tunnels, 280-350 ft. To birdie all of those holes is just incomprehensible to me. You've got to hit every line. They seriously need to make disc golf harder for these guys. Scores are super tight in Open. Looks like Dana is shooting really well, but still has quite a few players in front of him. Should be an interesting battle over the last few days, my money would still be on Schusterick.
On the other hand, they need to make disc golf easier for me. Its been great getting to see these courses, but wish I could have made some shots out here. My game has been pretty much embarrassing. Its not a good feeling on these courses when you lose all confidence on the tee. Hoping to shoot a respectable round at some point. 3 more chances, then operation shutdown.
Can't say enough about how great the courses look. Charlotte did a great job with their preparation.
Played Nevin in the morning. Didn't throw terrible but didn't make it happen. Several basic shots with poor execution killed me. Dan came out to Bradford and gave me serious moral support. Thanks for carrying my bag. I have never quit an event of any sort during my life but I was very close to walking off the course today. I just went thru my round and I shanked 9 of the drives. I turned a possible 2 on hole 3 from 5 ft into a 4. It was rough. Cracked my best Roc so that is awesome.
That round by MJ just blows my mind!
I didn't sign up for the broadcast as I really don't have time to watch but I have been been following the scores. Its fun to see Climo and Schultz battling each other in Masters. Have you guys had a chance to see any of their play?
I woke up today and was ready to head to Renny. Got in the car and decided I really didn't feel like playing a tournament round. My first DNF. I headed north to Baily Road. It's one of the easiest courses in the Charlotte Area that I've played. After that I played Stumpy Creek. Super fun and tough course. The short tees are very challenging and the longs are just nasty. On the way back I stopped by Joe Gibbs racing. The shop was great. They had cars and display cases in the front. When you went in you could see all the cars being worked on and a monster merchandise store. I had a fun day considering the decision not to play. Looking forward to tomorrow. Headed out to play a few more new courses.
Steven is in the mix in AMs. Really exciting to see DISContinuum members do well at big events.
I drove Roman out to RL Smith this morning and caddied for him. What an absolutely sick course it is. I saw Bruce and Kelsey hanging out. After the round we headed out to Gastonia and played this nasty 9 holer called Goat Island. After we played an 18 holer called Bradley Center. It was a pretty fun course. Watching the semis back at the house on the big screen. Can't wait to play RL tomorrow morning.
How do the semis and finals work at worlds?
Quote from: Clonan on July 20, 2012, 04:41:15 PM
How do the semis and finals work at worlds?
Semis is just an 18 hole round. There is a cut, something like the top 50 who play the semis. Finals is just a 9 hole final round among the top 4.
Worlds is officially over for me. It was a battle to get through the last round. It was scheduled to start at 2pm. The scoreboard showed up an hour late, and we started at 3:10pm. Heavy rain was in the forecast, so players, including myself, were not happy about the debacle, especially considering it was the toughest course the ams have to play Angry Beaver (this was at least the 3rd instance I know of where there was difficulty getting the scoreboard to the course on-time).
Sure enough we played 9 holes and then it started raining cats and dogs. There was a lightning delay for about 45 min, then we resumed play in heavy rain. Mercifully the round ended at 7:30pm, over 6 hours after players had arrived for a simple 18 hole round. Somehow I shot my best round of the tournament, so I was happy to have something to feel good about after a rough week.
As far as rating Charlotte Worlds: I give them an A+ course preparation. They were in pristine condition, excellent OB marking, etc...
As far as logistics: I give them a D-. Tee-times posted at 11:30pm the night before Day 1 is unacceptable. Constant issues with getting scoreboards transported on-time is ridiculous. The courses were less than 30 min apart and they had 3 hours to get them there, they refused to allow players to help out. Also, they made a last-second change to the top 2 Advanced Pools course assignments that was no published in the course schedule. I'm not sure what the logic for this was, but I know it caused a delay and some anger with a number of players.
For me, I still rate Des Moines as the best Worlds I've ever played. I've had a blast at Charlotte, but wish they would have ironed out the details a little better before the tourney.
As far as my personal opinion of the Charlotte courses. The 5 we played in Advanced were definitely top notch. I'd probably rate 4 of them as a 4 out of 5 on DGCR, and Winget a 3.5. Honestly I was expecting just a bit more. Alot of this is because they set them up to play quickly. I get that, but I came here to get brutalized and it was disappointing to be playing short tees on many of the holes. Also, I like to be able to rip a drive here and there. Of the 108 holes we played, I probably threw a driver off the tee not more than 20 times this week. Just my personaly preference, but I wish there were some holes we could bomb a driver. There were long holes here, but almost all were heavily wooded and required hitting a landing zone, or avoiding some OB, and it made throwing a driver a poor decision. It was extremely demanding golf. This is just my personal preference that I had hoped there would be a little more of a mix between the 5 courses.
Overall it was a very positive experience. I had a blast out here with my family and I wish all the IL players a strong finish in tomorrow's action.
Yea logistics were definitely rough for the B pool in Open as well, but I had a great time. We ate really well this week which is always a high point for me in new cities - Halcyon, Enso's, Mimosa Grill and Mac's to name a few. The courses were a lot of fun and challenging. It seemed like Bradford was going to be really easy for everyone, but it proved to have a nice balance of shorter narrow holes and longer and technical holes with some OB. I threw a lot of comets and leopards on that course and Nevin. Renny was just sweet, but so hard to recover from when you have a few bad holes. I had 4 deuces and a throw in on Thursday and still shot a 72. It's a course a lot like Toboggan where I'll be able to remember every hole and go shot by shot through the round on what I would want to do. I was really happy to have shot two 1000 rated rounds, but my personal highlight for the week was to eagle hole 5 at Nevin in the rain after the lightning delay yesterday.
looks like we may have back 2 back Advanced world champions??
Spencer trailed by 6 strokes going into the semis. He made a 9 stroke swing, and now leads by 3 strokes going into the Final 9! GO ILLINOIS!!
The Des Moines Worlds had a lot going for it. They really had a great local group running it and the PDGA group had a lot of combined experience going into that Worlds.
One thing that I've thought since Worlds is that they should have a TD for each pool AND a TD for each course. At Des Moines, Becky and I were the TDs for the older Jrs. Each night I would go down to where they were doing leader boards and prep the board for the next day. Make sure there were no mistakes in grouping and make the score cards for the first round. In the morning I'd make sure that the score boards got onto the bus or in my car.
I think our pool ran the smoothest because we had a dedicated pool TD. Of course, they wanted it that way because no one wants to have something happen to the junior pool. It makes sense to have more supervision for that division.
If you look at the logistics though, if you had enough staff you could really smooth out the process. While the course TDs would know the courses backwards and forwards and could explain the course and make rulings, the pool TDs would know their pool players, could keep the score boards on track, report scores promptly and the players would have one point of contact for their pool when they had questions about times, courses, directions, details etc. You'd know your score board is going to be at the course on time because you have your own TD taking the boards from course to course.
That's my 2 cents on Worlds logistics.
Congratulations to all Illinois, Discontinuuum, IOS, and friends and family who played at Worlds this year!!!
Finally back and unpacked. I'm beat. We played Charlie Vettiner Park in Louisville, KY on the way back. We had a blast all week. The Player Caddy Book was by far the best I've ever seen. Charlotte has by far the best collection of courses I've played. The house we rented for the week was awesome. The 9 of us had a blast.
The finals at Hornet's Nest was awesome. Great setup with tents and vendors. I have not seen that many people at a finals anywhere I've been. The parking lots were packed and people had to park at nearby parking lots down the street. The action was pretty exciting. I got to see the FPO finish and the putt Hokom hit was unreal. What a huge putt to win. Thank you Paul McBeth for winning me some $$$
We got home last night after a great week-and-a-half-long vacation to North Carolina. We saw some friends in Salem, stayed at a Great Wolf Lodge north of Charlotte, & hit the outer banks after the semis on Saturday.
World's was organized very well, plenty of water for every round, the courses looked great, particularly Winget which has only been in the ground for about nine months. Hornet's Nest was a monster and a lot of fun to play. I played Angry Beaver blind and paid the price, but looking back I'd like to play that course again.
Reedy Creek was a fun course I got to play twice. My second round there (Thursday afternoon) was pretty rough, but I redeemed myself by making the best put of my life for a deuce on the island green on #7. I've attached a picture I took after the round, at least 40' out, framed by trees and a bridge, if I had hit ANYTHING, it would have dropped out of bounds. That's my son Daniel standing next to the basket.
Overall, the courses were JU-U-U-UST a little too wooded. I threw my Destroyer on only 5-6 different holes all week, compared to 12-15 holes that called for a Stratus. The holes in the woods were varied & challenging, but they became tiresome as the week went on. I think the official ratings may show that I shot close to my rating, but if I hadn't blown up at Winget or my first ten holes at Hornet's, I would have been more than satisfied with my play.
I heard a story about a guy (possibly in Advanced) who dropped an F-bomb after a bad shot. He was warned by someone on his card for a courtesy violation then proceeded to rattle off a lot more unkind words, which the warner counted. He was penalized 17 throws. Caused him to miss the semis.
The host hotel (The Blake) was less than satisfactory. Run down, bad renovations, wierd smell, elevators that broke down. I understand that the PDGA got a deal on the ballroom rental, but I made a mistake trusting them to pick a quality place to stay. It was cheap, but I now know to read on-line reviews before committing to stay somewhere that long.
I played with some very friendly Adv Masters, including two rounds with a gentleman from Perth, Australia. It was great to play with some older fellas like myself. Overall, unless you are challenging for the top spots, Worlds is just great, week-long tournament on some sweet courses, & if you're lucky you get to meet some interesting people. Charlotte has many destination courses for disc golfers, I hope to go back soon to check out Renny, Nevin, RL Smith, & Bradford.
Nice putt! Thanks for the review.