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Title: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on December 07, 2011, 09:36:07 AM
it will be an interesting off season

my problem with ozzie and his family  >  olney or what ever tweeted about personal info he learned from
his dad  , Jenks issues should NOT have been public regardless of what they were

then when the white sox are are  3games out  and they were asking for playoff down payments
ozzie was planning his florida escape   , what f)_*(king Bullsh_t  

horrible way that last season ended,   no one in the universe would have predicted Dunn's struggles ,
Peavy 's contining issues  and Rios

but thats LAST YEAR   , white sox fans can move on

I will boooo Ozzie when the Marlins come to town  , plenty of seats available on the north side and south side next year

so we just traded our closer who was a short stop for a starter who was a 3rd basemen
next will be quintan then thornton  

# 56  deserves every penny he can get   in the free agent market

the roster as it stands now compared to late March will be different  

Go White Sox !    

your future 2012  World Series Champs !  







Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on January 19, 2012, 09:32:28 AM
Go White Sox !     

your future 2012  World Series Champs ! 


Dunn MVP this year  !



Looking forward to an interesting baseball season


hoping to see them play Cardinals this year
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on February 14, 2012, 07:53:47 PM
Add FuKudome to that lineup and you have 2 100+ SO rally killers in the lineup. Feel the Cubs pain.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on February 15, 2012, 06:22:12 AM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on February 14, 2012, 07:53:47 PM
Add FuKudome to that lineup and you have 2 100+ SO rally killers in the lineup. Feel the Cubs pain.

Well the Sox got him for 1 yr $1M, compared to the Cubs getting him for 4 yr $50M, so I don't think they'll feel quite the same pain.  Remember when we signed him and the experts were converting his Japanese stats into what they'd be in MLB?  He was supposed to be something like a .290 20HR low strikeout guy.

Signing these Japanese stars to lucrative contracts before they've had any experience over here has proved to be a risky investment.  The Cubs were burned with Kosuke, the Mets with Kaz Matsui, the Red Sox with Daisuke, the Yankees with Hideki Irabu, and there have been a couple other flops as well.  So far, Hideo Nomo, Ichrio, and Hideki Matsui are the only guys who you'd say have really made an impact over here.  It'll be interesting to see how this $70M pitcher the Rangers just got ends up doing.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Chainmeister on February 15, 2012, 08:26:36 AM
The problem with the Cubs was the price of the contract. He was way overpaid by the former regime. Fukadome was a reliable player of above average ability who was paid superstar money.  The Sox need a good glove in the outfield and got it for a cheap price.  His bat, to say the least, has been variable.  The Sox will expect him to hit his career average of .260 and understand situational baseball. Everything else will be gravy. This deal is more like the deals the current Cubs regime is seeking. I suspect that the one year deal will have him playing to impress GM's around the league as he auditions for his next deal.  He is not a problem guy but he was a problem contract.  Not at this price.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on February 19, 2012, 06:00:49 AM
cheap backup bench player depth on bench





Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on April 04, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=cws

here is your 2012    world series roster 

fingers crossed, tickets bought, get those beer goggles on 

PLAY FrICKINg  BALL !!!!!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Chainmeister on April 04, 2012, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: airspuds on April 04, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=cws

here is your 2012    world series roster 

fingers crossed, tickets bought, get those beer goggles on 

PLAY FrICKINg  BALL !!!!!
God love you Airspuds
eternal fan thick and thin
The Koolaid tastes good.

Yet, this type of hope
and warning track flyball cheers
more befit the Cubs.

I won't criticize
before a pitch has been thrown
or Dunn has struck out.

Next year is now here.
'All fans may have pennant dreams
on opening day!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on April 14, 2012, 06:05:17 AM
nice start at home yesterday

go white sox !
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on April 22, 2012, 07:14:22 AM
Can there be an asterisk put next that perfect game?

Probably the least impressive perfect game you could ever pitch.  First of all its against a Mariners team hitting a collective .223 this season and has the 2nd worst on base% in the league at .272.  Secondly, what was up with that last pitch that was 8 feet outside and why would the home-plate umpire not defer to the 1B umpire to make the call on the check swing?  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Tom McManus on April 22, 2012, 07:53:33 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on April 22, 2012, 07:14:22 AM
Can there be an asterisk put next that perfect game?

Probably the least impressive perfect game you could ever pitch.  First of all its against a Mariners team hitting a collective .223 this season and has the 2nd worst on base% in the league at .272.  Secondly, what was up with that last pitch that was 8 feet outside and why would the home-plate umpire not defer to the 1B umpire to make the call on the check swing?  Ridiculous.

Tom Verducci wrote a nice article on SI.com that addresses the Mariners futility.  This also seems to be the year where it is walk, strikeout, or home run.  Not a big fan of this style of baseball.

There was also an article on SI.com talking about closers and the rate of breakdown.  Baseball needs to work pitchers in a different manner, injuries are way too prevalent.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on April 25, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
only a  cub fan would ask this   Can there be an asterisk put next that perfect game? 

Probably the least impressive perfect game you could ever pitch.  First of all its against a Mariners team hitting a collective .223 this season and has the 2nd worst on base% in the league at .272.  Secondly, what was up with that last pitch that was 8 feet outside and why would the home-plate umpire not defer to the 1B umpire to make the call on the check swing?  Ridiculous.

--
It doesnt matter that the mariners suck, he got 27  batters  out,  fairly easily

how many no hitter perfect games does  prior and wood have ?

The # 5  starter on the sox is better than cubs # 1  starter.

I thought I might ask my mlb umpire acquantenance about the last pitch,
but the call is the call.  By the way he threw out quade last year out of a game.
so hes my hero

cubs suck >  they should nt even play their games they are so bad, no way playoffs can be made.
but this is what happens every year in cub ville.   wait til next year banner has been raised prior to the end of april




go white sox !




Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on April 25, 2012, 05:18:13 AM
It doesnt matter that the mariners suck, he got 27  batters  out,  fairly easily
Yeah, it was easy.  That was my point.

how many no hitter perfect games does  prior and wood have ?
Who cares?

The # 5  starter on the sox is better than cubs # 1  starter.
Which pitcher on the Sox staff would you NOT trade for Garza straight up?  The Cubs #1 is better than the Sox #1-5.

cubs suck >  they should nt even play their games they are so bad, no way playoffs can be made.
but this is what happens every year in cub ville.   wait til next year banner has been raised prior to the end of april

Yes, the Cubs suck really bad.  I don't think we'll finish ahead of the Pirates and it might be close with the Astros.  On the other hand, what are the Sox chances at the playoffs this year being in the same division with Detroit?  You think its good?  The entire Sox roster seems to be on the wrong side of 30 and the front office mortgaged the future to win immediately with these players, so tell me how the Sox are much better off right now than the Cubs?
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on April 25, 2012, 09:13:10 AM
Haters gonna hate.  That perfect game was just like the previous 20, perfect. 27 up 27 down. The last batter obviously followed through on a horrible pitch making it a strike out.  I don't see the fuss.  The only people upset about that call are Cub fans it seems.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Chainmeister on April 25, 2012, 11:25:35 AM
The # 5  starter on the sox is better than cubs # 1  starter.
Which pitcher on the Sox staff would you NOT trade for Garza straight up?  The Cubs #1 is better than the Sox #1-5.

Garza is a good #2.  Right now it looks like the Sox have 5 #2's and its a wash. However, I would take Peavy as he has the potential to still give many years as a #1 and his ball looks very live lately and I would take Sale as he is very young and may be a #1 and an all-start. Only tiime will tell.  Danks, Floyd and Humber would all be a wash for Garza as I see it now.  the Cubs have 1 Garza. The Sox have 3that are at least as good and two who I would strongly prefer.

That being said, Cub fans have to look long range. I think the current regime will bring success to the north side. It will not be this year.  Castro looks like he is maturing as a player and is every bit as good as the hype says he should be.

Last night I was watching the Sox and my wife saw 15 0's on the scoreboard and commented, "I can't beileve you are still watching this. Baseball is so @#$% boring."  I think there may be a lot of that kind of boredom this year and that means a much better year than predicted.  Post-season? I doubt it, but three will be a lot of well played and well pitched games. 
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: JCleaveland on April 25, 2012, 12:32:33 PM
Quote from: Chainmeister on April 25, 2012, 11:25:35 AM
The # 5  starter on the sox is better than cubs # 1  starter.
Which pitcher on the Sox staff would you NOT trade for Garza straight up?  The Cubs #1 is better than the Sox #1-5.

Garza is a good #2.  Right now it looks like the Sox have 5 #2's and its a wash. However, I would take Peavy as he has the potential to still give many years as a #1 and his ball looks very live lately and I would take Sale as he is very young and may be a #1 and an all-start. Only tiime will tell.  Danks, Floyd and Humber would all be a wash for Garza as I see it now.  the Cubs have 1 Garza. The Sox have 3that are at least as good and two who I would strongly prefer.

That being said, Cub fans have to look long range. I think the current regime will bring success to the north side. It will not be this year.  Castro looks like he is maturing as a player and is every bit as good as the hype says he should be.

Last night I was watching the Sox and my wife saw 15 0's on the scoreboard and commented, "I can't beileve you are still watching this. Baseball is so @#$% boring."  I think there may be a lot of that kind of boredom this year and that means a much better year than predicted.  Post-season? I doubt it, but three will be a lot of well played and well pitched games. 


That being said:
Cubs fans have been looking long range for 104 years now!!!  Pick a new team.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on April 27, 2012, 05:29:06 AM
Solid performance by Phil "#2 Caliber" Humber last night.  Wierd how that happens when you have to pitch against actual major league hitters.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on April 27, 2012, 06:05:43 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on May 09, 2012, 10:58:32 AM
floyd and danks have similiar stats to Garza according to one of my sources on the web

danks edges him as danks is lefty

humber obviously having issues , but he was a stopper for us last year

now that sale is back to the bullpen  the #  5 spot is open

thornton to the yanks soon 
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on May 17, 2012, 08:11:44 PM
Bruce made reference to WhY would we watch and care about teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv0m43Q_pEs   ( i can count  6 games i was there in this highlight film)

Favorite Sox game moments ( some )

Carlos Lee grand slam off Cubs walk off
Beat down of former cub clement in game 1  vs red sox 
Bo Jackson replacing Raines in left  (  2  nd row seats that year ) against Yankees after his rehab  and mother passing opening day
Not getting arrested with friends who climbed on top of old comiskey to grab balls during a game
getting  _uh _  yeah lets just say detained  at one game
Playoff loss to angels with kid 
2nd row dugout seats, kid dances on dugout  twice ,  i get my first foul ball, give to her  On her bday
sec  138   row 36   seats  1-4    free tix from firm multiple times over the years
all star game
first game at cell
last night game at   old comiskey
brick from old comiskey
#  35
#  14
#  3
#13
#23     dye, ventura




Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on May 18, 2012, 11:01:12 AM
Throw this onto your list Walsh:  losing this next series to the absolutely atrocious 2012 Cubs.  Believe it, its gonna happen.

Don't forget, you have the opportunity to see the Sox play in a beautiful stadium this weekend.  AKA, NOT us cellular!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on May 18, 2012, 11:32:30 AM
I should have left work at noon and caught today's game
missed it by that much

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on May 30, 2012, 09:26:58 AM
How about them First Place White Sox?!?  Who knows how long the Sox can keep firing on all cylinders like this but the pitching and hitting are ON POINT! 

Also I don't about all the other Sox fans but it's refreshing to see this team play as good as they look on paper... FINALLY.  Hopefully they keep rolling, we'll need every win. Especially whenever Detroit decides to finally wake up.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on May 30, 2012, 11:09:04 AM
The Tigers are again proving that pitching and defense is more important to achieving consistent success than a stacked batting order (especially when you play in a notorious pitcher's park).  If that team doesn't win 90 games this year, the GM should be fired.

As for the Sox:  They certainly have a chance to hold the division lead in what is shaping up to be a really bad division.  I love De Aza, wish the Cubs had a player like him.  Konerko (36) and Pierzynski (35) are having career years so far.  Sale is living up to the hype, although I'd expect him to hit a wall at some point in his 1st full big league season.  Peavy is staying healthy.  Rios and Dunn have had a resurgence to their career norms.  I can't imagine things going much better for the Sox than they are right now (this is my attempt to jinx these bastards).
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on May 30, 2012, 06:11:00 PM
Nice winning streak
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on June 13, 2012, 10:47:34 AM
Cards suck ! Should be 3 easy games .
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on June 14, 2012, 08:10:50 PM
Think again!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on June 15, 2012, 09:24:45 AM
I stand corrected, the cards won the series  fair and square.

peavy ANOTHER quality start  but on wrong end of  1-0  score

beltran one heck of a 5 tool player 

new mgr appears to be doing ok so far

Ill blame it on the lack of the DH in the NL park.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: tjdub26936 on June 15, 2012, 10:11:22 AM
Quote from: airspuds on June 15, 2012, 09:24:45 AMIll blame it on the lack of the DH in the NL park.

Wow.  What a great argument.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on June 19, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Ill blame it on the lack of the DH in the NL park.

Wow.  What a great argument.

----


got to come up with something for the post game show report
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on June 19, 2012, 09:51:56 AM
nice showcasing of soon to be former cubs,

Garza , gone
Dempster , gone (  last fri day game vs red sxo )
Soriano , gone
Soto , gone


the announcers on Sat stated that the rebuilding would take  5  ( yes five ) years

ok , cubs get handed a easy one last night, Ill be there tonight to ensure victory for Sox

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on June 19, 2012, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: airspuds on June 19, 2012, 09:51:56 AM
the announcers on Sat stated that the rebuilding would take  5  ( yes five ) years

5 years?  Thats it?  Then we'll be tied with the Sox for # of titles since 1917?  Sounds awesome.  I've been waiting for 32 years, whats another 5.

If Soriano can stay this hot for a little longer we may be able to finally find him a new home.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on June 24, 2012, 07:11:28 PM
A 3rd baseman, just what we needed.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on July 05, 2012, 05:02:33 AM
Chicks dig the long ball !  Dunn all star ! 14 as it should be, and  sale !!!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on July 05, 2012, 02:45:52 PM
How about that BIG sweep against the Rangers. Pitching was solid all series (8 inning 2 hitter today!) and ill be damned if Kevin Youkilis is working out to be the best Mid Season pick up i can remember (going back 15 years).   Go GO WHITE SOX! 

Again enjoying this while I can...
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on July 31, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
Going to be exciting finish to the season !
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on August 01, 2012, 07:32:06 AM
I have no problem running this line up against any team in baseball.

de aza
youuuuuukk
konerko
dunn
rios
aj
tank
alexi
beckem

got some issues with our starters
youth in the pen
youth as closer
bench not as deep as I would like but it will have to do

good mix in clubhouse

this team CAN compete ! 


Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on August 01, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
This just in. The Olympics present race nights at US Cellular field to increase attendance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LVTl63gI9I&feature=fvwrel

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on August 02, 2012, 01:29:31 PM
another nice grab by the center fielder!


An acquaintance of mine from high school ran on the field at Wrigley a few years back.  It was poorly timed, however, because later than inning Zambrano went on to punch Mike Barrett(?) in the dugout,  taking all the attention away from his stupid a$s. 

He ended up getting charged with a felony and received probation as well as an embarassing write up w/ Mugshot in the News Sun... I hope the parents got hell for this, just stupid.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on August 05, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
Nice series vs angels
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on August 21, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
2 game lead ! 

yankees suck !
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on August 31, 2012, 05:10:45 AM
Nice quote from cubs 2nd base man ,  at least we out drew the sox.  In the sun time s   Hahaha .   Nice.    September games that matter to be played.   Sox tigers. Should be good  baseball   
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 02, 2012, 08:05:46 PM
And just like that the White Sox are on the bubble.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 03, 2012, 05:08:22 AM
We will have to wait and see how they respond.
Tigers good team, white sox  1-14  at Comerica last  15.
Home vs Minn and Kc this week.

Meaningful games in Sept.
I do not think Cubs season ticket holders got Playoff ticket invoices.
Barney is looking forward to Oct golf in Az.

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 03, 2012, 05:08:57 AM
Plenty of good seats available !!!

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on September 18, 2012, 07:48:34 AM
See AJ Pierzynski's career stats pasted in below.  In bold is his HR totals.  Anybody else find it suspicious that a 35 year old suddenly has that kind of boost in power?

2001 MIN    114 381 51 110 33 2    7     55 16 57 1 7 .289 .322 .441 .763 1.6
2002 MIN    130 440 54 132 31 6    6    49 13 61 1 2 .300 .334 .439 .773 2.1
2003 MIN    137 487 63 152 35 3    11   74 24 55 3 1 .312 .360 .464 .824 4.2
2004 SF      131 471 45 128 28 2    11   77 19 27 0 1 .272 .319 .410 .729 0.1
2005 CWS  128 460 61 118 21 0    18   56 23 68 0 2 .257 .308 .420 .728 2.0
2006 CWS  140 509 65 150 24 0    16   64 22 72 1 0 .295 .333 .436 .769 1.8
2007 CWS  136 472 54 124 24 0    14   50 25 66 1 1 .263 .309 .403 .712 1.0
2008 CWS  134 534 66 150 31 1    13   60 19 71 1 0 .281 .312 .416 .728 0.6
2009 CWS  138 504 57 151 22 1    13   49 24 52 1 1 .300 .331 .425 .756 1.2
2010 CHW  128 474 43 128 29 0    9     56 15 39 3 4 .270 .300 .388 .688 0.7
2011 CHW  129 464 38 133 29 1    8    48 23 33 0 0 .287 .323 .405 .728 0.3
2012 CHW  122 435 63 121 15 4    26   73 25 67 0 0 .278 .325 .510 .835 2.3
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Chainmeister on September 18, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on September 18, 2012, 07:48:34 AM
See AJ Pierzynski's career stats pasted in below.  In bold is his HR totals.  Anybody else find it suspicious that a 35 year old suddenly has that kind of boost in power?

2001 MIN    114 381 51 110 33 2    7     55 16 57 1 7 .289 .322 .441 .763 1.6
2002 MIN    130 440 54 132 31 6    6    49 13 61 1 2 .300 .334 .439 .773 2.1
2003 MIN    137 487 63 152 35 3    11   74 24 55 3 1 .312 .360 .464 .824 4.2
2004 SF      131 471 45 128 28 2    11   77 19 27 0 1 .272 .319 .410 .729 0.1
2005 CWS  128 460 61 118 21 0    18   56 23 68 0 2 .257 .308 .420 .728 2.0
2006 CWS  140 509 65 150 24 0    16   64 22 72 1 0 .295 .333 .436 .769 1.8
2007 CWS  136 472 54 124 24 0    14   50 25 66 1 1 .263 .309 .403 .712 1.0
2008 CWS  134 534 66 150 31 1    13   60 19 71 1 0 .281 .312 .416 .728 0.6
2009 CWS  138 504 57 151 22 1    13   49 24 52 1 1 .300 .331 .425 .756 1.2
2010 CHW  128 474 43 128 29 0    9     56 15 39 3 4 .270 .300 .388 .688 0.7
2011 CHW  129 464 38 133 29 1    8    48 23 33 0 0 .287 .323 .405 .728 0.3
2012 CHW  122 435 63 121 15 4    26   73 25 67 0 0 .278 .325 .510 .835 2.3

These days one can never make any firm assumptions about whether a player in any sport is or is not a user.  Its a bit easier in baseball than it is with many olympic sports. In those sports there are a variety of PED's and there is a running battle between the sophisticated users and the testers to see who is ahead.  Pretty much the same substances- steroids and testosterone, are the choices for basball and football.  The testing seems to work and they seem to catch the users these days. All I know is everybody gets tested and there are no known positive tests for Pierzynski.  Also, we usually see across the board jumps for users. Their batting averages increase and they often do better in a variety of statistics. Pierrzynski's fielding is about the same if slightly better. That could have a lot to do with his pitchers giving him a better chance.  His average is a bit down which is common when a player sees himself as a run producer and becomes less of a spray hitter.  Pierzynski is up in home runs and has more RBIs. The latter is because of where he hits in the order, the home runs and the fact that the Sox are scoring a lot more runs this year. In short, I don't think he is using but I am never surprised when somebody gets a positive test. The only thing that surprises me is that you took so long to post this. I think your reaction time is down. The conspiracy theororists have been  on this issue all Summer. You are certainly not using PED's. Your fast twitch Sox hating fibres are a bit delayed.  This should ease your pain in the coming weeks. I think you should worry more about Doug than AJ. His fast twitch Cub hating seems to provide ample evidence that he's juiced.I am surprised he has not made the same argument about Soriano.  I'm just saying.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Tom McManus on September 18, 2012, 10:20:07 AM
Based on his home run numbers, it certainly is possible.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 18, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
not possible , AJ plays the game right !

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 18, 2012, 10:32:59 AM
First Place White Sox ! 

the hockey strike is getting more press than the Cubs right now !
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on September 18, 2012, 10:47:48 AM
I'm not saying he did or he didn't.  The general fan base has made assumptions on many players of recent history who had a sudden burst of power that was completely anomalous when compared to the rest of their career (e.g., Brady Anderson and Luis Gonzalez), and other players who decllined into their mid 30's and then were suddently resurrected better than ever (e.g. Bonds and Clemens).  Maybe Pierzynski made a swing change that I don't know about.  I don't think anybody is convinced the current drug testing system works 100%.  A ton of minor leaguers are getting caught, but not too many big leaguers.  I think if you have the resources and $$, your chances of being caught go down.

What we know is there aren't too many starting MLB catchers in their late 30's.  We know AJ had some injury problems last year.  And now after 14 seasons of being a singles/doubles hitter, he is one of the top power hitting catchers in the game at age 35.  Unfortunately, nobody can ever be completely innocent anymore no matter how many drug tests they pass.  There are too many Lance Armstrong's out there cheating the system that we just can't trust anybody.

What to make of Ryan Braun?  He hit his 40th HR the other night.  Having a monster year.  I think most will assume he's probably still doing whatever it was that got him in trouble, but he's just getting away with it.  And if we think he's getting away with it, then why wouldn't we think there are dozens and dozens of other guys also getting away with it.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 21, 2012, 03:56:01 PM
Go white sox !
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on September 24, 2012, 06:47:31 AM
UGH, it has been hard to watch the Sox's offense this past week.  I wish they would just wake up and go on a terror into the playoffs.  Starting tonight would be nice!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Chainmeister on September 24, 2012, 07:54:58 AM
If there was a news story about the tight race between the Tigers and the Whitesox it would likely have appeared in The Onion. All I can say is How about them Twinkies! Hopefully some home cooking will get things going on the south side.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Tom McManus on September 24, 2012, 08:33:00 AM
Quote from: Clonan on September 24, 2012, 06:47:31 AM
UGH, it has been hard to watch the Sox's offense this past week.  I wish they would just wake up and go on a terror into the playoffs.  Starting tonight would be nice!

In 2005 the White Sox almost had an epic collapse.  That post season turned out pretty well for them. No saying what is going to happen this year, but they are still in first place.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on September 24, 2012, 10:04:36 AM
I remember that fondly.  The Sox were 3 (or less) games ahead of Cleveland with a 3 game series/season finale against them. They went on to sweep them taking that momentum into a 12-1 postseason.  Good times that 2005 was...

Heard that Saturday vs. TB could be the potential clincher?? or earliest possible game..  If they play well this week I think ill invest in some cheap seats to have a chance at experiencing that...
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on September 24, 2012, 11:58:07 AM
Quote from: Clonan on September 24, 2012, 10:04:36 AM

Heard that Saturday vs. TB could be the potential clincher?? or earliest possible game..  If they play well this week I think ill invest in some cheap seats to have a chance at experiencing that...


You've lost 5 straight and are 1 game up with 10 to play and you're talking about clinching 6 games from now?  You Sox fans are a pretty confident bunch.

Difference with the 2005 White Sox is they won 99 games despite the late season collapse.  They were a dominant team.  This 2012 White Sox will be under 90 wins if they don't win 9 of their last 10.  They are a mediocre team.  But hey, recent history has shown mediocre teams can win the WS.  All you gotta do is make the show and then anything can happen.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on September 24, 2012, 12:07:35 PM
Haha easy Dan,  nobody said the Sox are GOING TO clinch Saturday but rather the earliest possible game they COULD is saturday with a Tiger meltdown and Sox surge.  With the way both the Tigers and White sox are playing it wouldn't surprise me if we had another Central tie-break game.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on September 24, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Chainmeister on September 18, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on September 18, 2012, 07:48:34 AM
See AJ Pierzynski's career stats pasted in below.  In bold is his HR totals.  Anybody else find it suspicious that a 35 year old suddenly has that kind of boost in power?

2001 MIN    114 381 51 110 33 2     7     55 16 57 1 7 .289 .322 .441 .763 1.6
2002 MIN    130 440 54 132 31 6     6    49 13 61 1 2 .300 .334 .439 .773 2.1
2003 MIN    137 487 63 152 35 3   11   74 24 55 3 1 .312 .360 .464 .824 4.2
2004 SF      131 471 45 128 28 2   11   77 19 27 0 1 .272 .319 .410 .729 0.1
2005 CWS  128 460 61 118 21 0    18   56 23 68 0 2 .257 .308 .420 .728 2.0
2006 CWS  140 509 65 150 24 0    16   64 22 72 1 0 .295 .333 .436 .769 1.8
2007 CWS  136 472 54 124 24 0    14   50 25 66 1 1 .263 .309 .403 .712 1.0
2008 CWS  134 534 66 150 31 1    13   60 19 71 1 0 .281 .312 .416 .728 0.6
2009 CWS  138 504 57 151 22 1    13   49 24 52 1 1 .300 .331 .425 .756 1.2
2010 CHW  128 474 43 128 29 0     9    56 15 39 3 4 .270 .300 .388 .688 0.7
2011 CHW  129 464 38 133 29 1     8    48 23 33 0 0 .287 .323 .405 .728 0.3
2012 CHW  122 435 63 121 15 4   26   73 25 67 0 0 .278 .325 .510 .835 2.3

You are certainly not using PED's. Your fast twitch Sox hating fibres are a bit delayed.  This should ease your pain in the coming weeks. I think you should worry more about Doug than AJ. His fast twitch Cub hating seems to provide ample evidence that he's juiced.I am surprised he has not made the same argument about Soriano.  I'm just saying.

If I am the Doug you are referring to, how did I get brought up in this conversation?? I never talk about the White Sox? ???
I think Soriano is an idiot. but juiced?? I could be wrong, but I think he hit HR's as a Yankee and in Texas, but I could be wrong? ANYONE could hit a HR at Wrigley Field. Our high school diamond here in town is 330' down each line and 410' in center. lol
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Chainmeister on September 25, 2012, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: pdga#7648 on September 24, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Chainmeister on September 18, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on September 18, 2012, 07:48:34 AM
See AJ Pierzynski's career stats pasted in below.  In bold is his HR totals.  Anybody else find it suspicious that a 35 year old suddenly has that kind of boost in power?

2001 MIN    114 381 51 110 33 2     7     55 16 57 1 7 .289 .322 .441 .763 1.6
2002 MIN    130 440 54 132 31 6     6    49 13 61 1 2 .300 .334 .439 .773 2.1
2003 MIN    137 487 63 152 35 3   11   74 24 55 3 1 .312 .360 .464 .824 4.2
2004 SF      131 471 45 128 28 2   11   77 19 27 0 1 .272 .319 .410 .729 0.1
2005 CWS  128 460 61 118 21 0    18   56 23 68 0 2 .257 .308 .420 .728 2.0
2006 CWS  140 509 65 150 24 0    16   64 22 72 1 0 .295 .333 .436 .769 1.8
2007 CWS  136 472 54 124 24 0    14   50 25 66 1 1 .263 .309 .403 .712 1.0
2008 CWS  134 534 66 150 31 1    13   60 19 71 1 0 .281 .312 .416 .728 0.6
2009 CWS  138 504 57 151 22 1    13   49 24 52 1 1 .300 .331 .425 .756 1.2
2010 CHW  128 474 43 128 29 0     9    56 15 39 3 4 .270 .300 .388 .688 0.7
2011 CHW  129 464 38 133 29 1     8    48 23 33 0 0 .287 .323 .405 .728 0.3
2012 CHW  122 435 63 121 15 4   26   73 25 67 0 0 .278 .325 .510 .835 2.3

You are certainly not using PED's. Your fast twitch Sox hating fibres are a bit delayed.  This should ease your pain in the coming weeks. I think you should worry more about Doug than AJ. His fast twitch Cub hating seems to provide ample evidence that he's juiced.I am surprised he has not made the same argument about Soriano.  I'm just saying.

If I am the Doug you are referring to, how did I get brought up in this conversation?? I never talk about the White Sox? ???
I think Soriano is an idiot. but juiced?? I could be wrong, but I think he hit HR's as a Yankee and in Texas, but I could be wrong? ANYONE could hit a HR at Wrigley Field. Our high school diamond here in town is 330' down each line and 410' in center. lol

Tongue was firmly placed in cheek at that point.  I was chiding Dan for being slow to criticize the Sox (which he likes to do) and comparing him to  your normally quick criticism of the Cubs (which you like to do).  Its a rhetorical flourish called the "double edged sword" where I aim for Dan and recklessly slash you on the backswing.  Alll of this, of course, is in good fun.  Dan and I have known each other for a long time, and for a Cubs fan he's a good guy.  I have been told that the same goes for you notwithstanding your fascination with birds. :P
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on September 25, 2012, 09:51:17 AM
I kind of resent that.  I don't like to criticize the Cubs, I freakin LOVE it!   ;D      when you are bad for 104 years, it becomes natural to be criticized!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 25, 2012, 10:13:38 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_09_24_clemlb_chamlb_1&mode=recap_home&c_id=cws#gid=2012_09_24_clemlb_chamlb_1&mode=video



I looked up , saw the play, thought to myself, I know that guy.

Yep, one of my former clients is that ump .

Close play. 

last year, he ejected quade  (  your last cub manager savior ) 

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on September 26, 2012, 07:29:04 AM
When is the clincher scheduled for now?
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on September 26, 2012, 10:09:07 AM
Detroit will clinch this weekend!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on September 26, 2012, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: Dan Michler on September 26, 2012, 07:29:04 AM
When is the clincher scheduled for now?

I predict the same day the north side breaks the 100 loss thresh hold
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 26, 2012, 12:07:51 PM
Oct  2  sox will clinch.

Make sure the alarm clocks are set for  the Cub players , they aint used to playing in October .

Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 26, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
If the Sox happen to make the playoffs they'll probably run some $5 promotion on tickets.

I do find it funny when White Sox fans talk chit about the Cubs. Since 1995 they have the exact number of division titles. Just because they lucked into a World Series they think they are superior.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on September 26, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
I got Brett's $20 ( ;D) says the Sox don't clinch Oct. 2nd!!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on September 26, 2012, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: CEValkyrie on September 26, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
If the Sox happen to make the playoffs they'll probably run some $5 promotion on tickets.


Well they better, because they drew a grand total of 14,000 for yesterday's game in the heat of a pennant race.  And there wasn't close to that in the actual stadium.  Not even White Sox fans actually care one iota about this team.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 26, 2012, 03:22:20 PM
Being a kid who rooted for both teams and went to games at both stadiums I can say that the only difference between the teams and their fans is geography. The Sox ballpark is not in a good baseball neighborhood and hasn't been my entire life. Wrigley IS a baseball neighborhood and has been all my life. When I was a kid the only difference between the games to me was what happened outside the stadium.

But inside the stadium it was baseball, hotdogs, peanuts and my Dad giving me my first taste of beer when I was 10 years old and had gotten a bad peanut and there was nothing else to drink around since I had finished my coke hours ago. We'd go to Wrigley and cheer on the Cubs and the next month we'd go to Comiskey and root for the Sox. Spending the afternoon at a baseball game was magic to my eyes.

Outside the stadium after a Cubs game we'd walk a few blocks to the service station where we seemed to always park and wait for the stragglers to get there and drive off so my Dad could get his truck out. I don't know if they do that anymore but these little service station lots would just load the cars in bumper to bumper and you couldn't leave until the cars that paid for parking after you would get there and leave first. On the days that Bruce and I went by ourselves we'd take the L to Evanston and then walk to another train and take that out to the 'burbs where our Dad would pick us up at the train station. Just an 8 year old and his 15 year old brother by themselves in the city! Those were the days.

After a Sox game was a little different...and so much more memorable! We'd walk across the street to the parking lot and there our truck was waiting for us. One time when crossing that parking lot a woman started trying to talk to my Dad and my oldest brother. I knew she was selling something but I couldn't figure out what but she had a special deal if my Dad and brother would buy in together. After she left I asked them what that lady wanted. My Dad just turned and looked at me and said "That was no lady!" The drive out of the neighborhood was always fun also. Never saw so many guys just peeing out in the open. At least on the golf course that my Dad would take me to a guy would at least go into the bushes. One time I saw a man and woman having sex next to a dumpster in an alley just a couple of blocks from the park. At least by then I knew what that was and didn't have to ask. But ah the sights and smells for a sheltered suburb living youngster like myself to see!

The teams change from year to year. None of the guys who are on the teams will likely be there 10 years from now. Most will be gone and forgotten in just a few years. Same with the coaches. I can't tell who's a Cubs fan or Sox fan by looking at them unless they're wearing team merch. I wouldn't know what team Barish roots for just by looking at him. So the real difference is just geography. One team is over here and the other is over there. It makes all the difference in how many people attend no matter what the playoff race looks like.

I know it is really important for most people to have just one team to root for. I get that. But make no mistake. There's no difference in the team that you root for other than the name, the mascot and uniform but most importantly the address of the stadium!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 27, 2012, 08:52:03 AM
I watched the 9th inning last night. The Indians tried to gift wrap one with 2 outs in the 9th. Can't believe he threw that ball away. I was expecting the 2 run dong for the win.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 27, 2012, 09:27:39 AM
lot a base ball left to be played.

Tigers plan on starting verlander every game now.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on September 27, 2012, 10:23:58 AM
not for the Sox there is not alot of baseball left!

don't need to start Verlander every game. What is the Sox record this month??  lmao
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 27, 2012, 08:21:31 PM
Tough time for the Sox. Catching TB on a hot 7 game winning streak, now 8. Dunn with his 212 K to end the game! TB is in the hunt. Depending on this series it could come down to TB & the O's in that last series. I enjoyed watching the TB/Boston game last year on the final day. Will it come down to the last out again?

It's looking like the Sox fans will be watching the Bears with us Cubs fans. No fall baseball in Chi-Town.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on September 28, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
What a shame the last week and a half has been...

I don't think I can stomach watching the Sox blow any more opportunities.  How many Bases loaded w/ no Outs have they had and only scored on a walk, a hit by a pitch and  Double Play...   and Konerko... WTF happened?!
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on September 30, 2012, 06:45:03 AM
They moved from third best. average with runners  in scoring position to 7 th.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on October 01, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
Fat lady mathematically warming up in the bull pen .  Sox will sweep Indians
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: pdga#7648 on October 01, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
wont matter, Tigers are up 6-1
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on October 05, 2012, 02:58:44 PM
I was just looking thru the FA lists. The Sox have a ton of free agents and some tough decisions to make. Lack off attendance could play a major factor this offseason.

Jake Peavy
Kevin Youkilis
A.J. Pierzynski
Gavin Floyd
Francisco Liriano
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on October 08, 2012, 05:40:52 AM
it will be an interesting off season for sure

still hole at 3rd, solid at ss  2nd and first   
tank in left, rios in right,
center ? 
flowers , time to step up

sale  then who  ?

youth bullpen
lot of lefties out there

closer = reed

Kenny  >  keep in simple
sign Youkilis
and hope that you can fill out the starting rotation some how

See you all at Sox Fest ! ! 
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: airspuds on November 03, 2012, 06:49:53 AM
plz no thread drift with talk of the toronto raptors or montreal expos

so signing peavy , and floyd  gives us a starting rotation of

Peavy
Sale
Floyd
Danks
????

pen will be interesting

hate to see AJ leave but Flowers needs to get a shot, you have to develop your talent

only one player from world series team left , # 14

beckam needs to hit   280  ish more sacrific es and walks
3rd a big hole


ventura had good year , now he needs to improve
the team has to realize that every game matters
they should have been able to finish a little stronger
but they gave away some games early in the season
tigers needed mvp and cy young winners to win the black and blue central division

been to san frans park , so here is a pic of that











Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Dan Michler on December 21, 2012, 07:24:37 AM
1 year $7.5M got A.J. out of town?  I guess the White Sox really didn't want him, because a 2 year deal wouldn't have been that tough to offer to a guy who just hit .278 27 HR.  Maybe they are assuming like me that he was on steroids, and would rather steer clear.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: CEValkyrie on December 21, 2012, 07:32:56 AM
I was hoping the Cubs would give him that 1 year deal.
Title: Re: 2012 Chicago White Sox
Post by: Clonan on December 21, 2012, 09:27:37 AM
 "Maybe they are assuming like me that he was on steroids, and would rather steer clear."

::)
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on January 10, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
2013     World Series Champs    !!!!


it will be a fun season

hoping for a healthy new year !   
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on March 09, 2013, 06:28:43 AM
Sale with big contract !

getting my tix tomorrow

got to see how opening day is going to work out !

Go White Sox !
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on April 02, 2013, 05:22:21 AM
This will be a fun season , little chilly but great day at the ballpark.  Go sox !
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on June 26, 2013, 10:23:13 AM
http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/article_external/hawk_harrelson_loses_it_volume_xcii/13913122


only   9.5 games out   ! 

lots of bad baseball left this year

back up the truck

rebuild NOW !

Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on August 20, 2013, 12:04:20 PM
Garcia looks like the real deal.

white sox pitching staff  have nice era
but no hitting and NO defense
has killed them this year


go white sox ! 

No Oct baseball for us, when do Hawks start  ?
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: CEValkyrie on September 16, 2013, 07:46:36 AM
Magic # is 9 for the White Sox.
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on September 17, 2013, 09:09:43 AM
arggggg !  tough season , I am still in amazement that the season was pretty much OVAH in June when the Hawks were hosting the CUP  ! 

I am pretty sure most cub fans know that feeling, but it was relatively new for me.

Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: Clonan on September 17, 2013, 02:33:14 PM
sadly, i think its a feeling we will have to get used to for a season or two.  or 3... or who knows.. 
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: Dan Michler on September 18, 2013, 05:23:44 AM
Pretty heated battle for 4th worst record in baseball between the Sox and Cubs.

The Sox are kind of where the Cubs were at a couple years ago when they fired Hendry.  I think its time to finally say goodbye to Kenny Williams and try to rebuild from the ground up.

Looking at the Cubs, I think the best we can hope for is that some of these prospects start to find their way to the big league club and make a real impact in 2015.  2014 is likely another lost season on both sides of town.  It's been a depressing 3 year stretch.
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on September 24, 2013, 04:41:16 AM
They could pitch at times overall, no hitting, no D .   When is Sox fest ?
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: Jon Brakel on September 24, 2013, 08:16:05 AM
Could we just have another NFL season next spring and summer? NFL II.
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on November 02, 2013, 07:13:26 AM
When is SOX FEST   ?

Jan  2014   
Title: Re: 2013 Chicago White Sox ( it's OUR turn to WIN ! )
Post by: airspuds on January 01, 2014, 07:41:30 AM
2014  World Series Champs !

go white sox !

it's going to be interesting !