2004 Illinois Open Series.
All 3 tournaments will be run similar to the 2003 Illinois Open.
All 3 will be PDGA Sanctioned split day events.
There will be NO additional fees topped on the normal entry fee to enter the series. You are automatically in the series once you've paid the usual entry fee.
There will be an overall series winner of each division.
There will be more information coming soon about entry fees & prizes.
Look for some tough USDGC style holes @ the Fairfield Finale on the Pro/Advanced day.
June 26/27 2004
Illinois Open Series #1
Streamwood Starter
Shady Oaks Park
Streamwood, IL
July 24/25 2004
Illinois Open Series #2
Crystal Lake Cruise
Lippold Park
Crystal Lake, IL
August 28/29 2004
Illinois Open Series #3
Fairfield Finale
Fairfield Park
Round Lake, IL
So the Illinois Open is a 6 day event? I'm horribly confused. Do you have to play all 6 events?
The 2004 Illinois Open Series is a 3 tournament series.
You can play none, one, two, or three events (or four, five, & six if you want).
(Don't quote me on this, the Brakel Bros will correct me if i'm wrong)
Saturday
Junior
Recreational
Intermediate
Pro2
Sunday
Advanced
Open
Pro Master
Pro Women
So for me, i'll be playing Advanced. I will be playing all 3 Events that are held on Sundays. If I wasn't helping on Saturdays, I would have the option to play Pro2 on Saturday since my rating is under 960. This would benefit me several ways. I could play in a Pro Division for the first time. It would also give me a chance to play the course & prepare for Sunday. It would also give me 3 more PDGA Tournaments for ratings & points.
So for you Myk, I think you played Intermediate at the Illinois Open last year. Intermediate will be playing on Saturdays this year. You could play Intermediate on Saturday for each of the 3 events then play Advanced or Open on Sunday. To be crowned Series Champion for Intermediate, I think it will take attending all 3 events to win it.
Hope that helps.
Flyers will be out soon & those will help clarify the series.
That makes way more sense now. Thank you for clarifying.
I'm getting really excited about this series! I enjoyed playing last year (except for the angry mob beforehand). A good time to be had by all! ;)
This just registered today.
In reality someone could win a tournament(s) & 2004 Illinois Open Champion for Intermediate & Advanced if their rating allows them to play in those divisions. It could be the same for Advanced & Pro2 too as long as their rating allows that person to play those divisions.
Looks good. The sanctioning agreements will go in shortly now that the Crystal Cruise is squared away.
I'll be playing Sunday for each tournament so Jon can play on Saturday.
Diana and the girls will probably come out for these and play on Saturday. Diana and Kelsey are talking about playing Men's Recreational this year on the Garlock plan. They are just starting to put up the kinds of scores that are competitive with the bottom of the pack in Mens' Rec. They are tired of competing against each other and want to take on the world together.
QuoteLooks good. The sanctioning agreements will go in shortly now that the Crystal Cruise is squared away.
When I was suggested joke titles for the series tournaments, I suggested Crystal Lake Method. You said you didn't understand. Crystal Method is a band that I imagine got its name from crystal meth, but I don't know for sure. I like Crystal Lake Cruise though.
QuoteThe 2004 Illinois Open Series is a 3 tournament series.
You can play none, one, two, or three events (or four, five, & six if you want).
(Don't quote me on this, the Brakel Bros will correct me if i'm wrong)
Saturday
Junior
Recreational
Intermediate
Pro2
Sunday
Advanced
Open
Pro Master
Pro Women
I know 'intermediate master' has gone away, and I might just play Rec anyhow, but can it be assumed that Adv Masters will be offered if there are enough players?
(and if so, would they play Sat or Sun?)
Is there some sort of point system involved for the overall 'class prizes'? Suppose someone played Rec for the 1st one, then played Int in the 2nd or 3rd one; particularly if ratings were updated and he was 'forced' to play a higher division?
(although I guess ratings aren't officially updated between June & Sept but I thought I read that they'd be updated more frequently this year)
Not that I see this situation happening w/ me but I figured someone would ask eventually..
I figured Jon was probably making a joke that referred to contempory culture since that is one topic I'm totally unfamiliar with.
Brett was supposed to come up with a points formula and Brett was supposed to track points. I think right now everyone is at zero.
I think the plan is for Am Masters to play Saturday. Nothing is carved in stone. Since both days are fully sanctioned, there won't be an Intermediate Master division either day.
I think the best plan for someone who is forced to move up mid-series is, "Tough! You should not have been bagging in a lower division anyway." Given the way ratings lag behind current ability, and given that most players in most states are playing in their proper division or playing up, anyone who gets bumped up in nine weeks time was BAGGING!
Players should feel fre to play in the division indicated by their rating. They should also feel free to compete for a Series Overall Championship in a division indicated by their actual skill level.
Crystal Lake Park District contacted me today. They want a write up about the tournament. It will be sent out in their newsletter that is published 3X's a year.
Official website of the 2004 Illinois Open
http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html)
QuoteCrystal Lake Park District contacted me today. They want a write up about the tournament. It will be sent out in their newsletter that is published 3X's a year.
Here is the information we sent Crystal Lake. I have also sent Round Lake & Streamwood this same write up, just changing the tournament & dates, asking if they could put it in their newsletters as well.
Crystal Lake Park District is excited to announce that there will be a PDGA sanctioned event at Lippold Park Disc Golf Course. The "Crystal Lake Cruise" is the second of three stops on the 2004 Illinois Open Series. The tournament is a split day event. Junior, recreational, intermediate, amateur master and pro 2 divisions will compete on Saturday, July 24th, 2004. All other advanced and pro divisions will compete on Sunday, July 25th, 2004. Preregistration is highly recommended. Field will be limited to 90 players each day. Registration is from 8:30 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. each day.
Players of any skill level are welcome to play. There will be a first time players' meeting for anyone that has not competed in a PDGA event prior to the tournament. You DO NOT need to be a PDGA member to play this event. Entry fees will be standard to PDGA sanctioning. 100% payouts to all divisions using PDGA payout tables. Come on out to play or watch and find out what disc golf is all about. For more information go to http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html)
For more information about the PDGA go to www.pdga.com
Jon Brakel
(847) 670-1757
Tournament Director
illinoisopen@comcast.net
Bruce Brakel
(248) 673-4785
Assistant Tournament Director
michigan@pdga.com
Brett Comincioli
Assistant Tournament Director
(847) 858-4368
comincioli@ameritech.net
Site has been updated with fees.
http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html)
QuoteSite has been updated with fees.
http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html)
the page looks great. I might suggest adding "2 rounds of 18 holes"....
QuoteQuoteSite has been updated with fees.
http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/illinoisopenindex.html)
the page looks great. I might suggest adding "2 rounds of 18 holes"....
Thanks Damon, a most excellent idea!!! :)
I'm starting to get the hang of doing a simple informative page.
Web site looks great!
All 3 are official
June 26/27 2004
Illinois Open Series #1
Streamwood Starter
Shady Oaks Park
Streamwood, IL
http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4400 (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4400)
July 24/25 2004
Illinois Open Series #2
Crystal Cruise
Lippold Park
Crystal Lake, IL
http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4210 (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4210)
August 28/29 2004
Illinois Open Series #3
Fairfield Fairwell
Fairfield Park
Round Lake, IL
http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4401 (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4401)
Site looks nice.
Very concise!
A couple of questions:
-where is the byron ice bowl? willowbrook country club in willowbrook, IL or somewhere in michigan? - OOPS - NEVER MIND, JUST SAW at the bottom THAT IT IS NEAR FLINT, MI
-is the illinois open finale in round lake still going to be a discontinuum event? if so, i missed where it said anything about discontinuum
QuoteVery concise!
A couple of questions:
-where is the byron ice bowl? willowbrook country club in willowbrook, IL or somewhere in michigan? - OOPS - NEVER MIND, JUST SAW at the bottom THAT IT IS NEAR FLINT, MI
-is the illinois open finale in round lake still going to be a discontinuum event? if so, i missed where it said anything about discontinuum
Just another oversite by the web meister. I have my own "update" list of things I need to update on the site the next time I update it.
The buzz on the series is starting to grow. I'm getting quite a few e-mails from people that I don't know and some that I do. I had set the name of the final leg as The Fairfield Fairwell as a play on Fairfield and Farewell. But it is in the PDGA as The Fairfield Farewell, so now I can get an idea of where someone heard about it. :D
QuoteThe buzz on the series is starting to grow. I'm getting quite a few e-mails from people that I don't know and some that I do. I had set the name of the final leg as The Fairfield Fairwell as a play on Fairfield and Farewell. But it is in the PDGA as The Fairfield Farewell, so now I can get an idea of where someone heard about it. :D
That is fantastic to hear!!!
The word is spreading fast. Rould Lake & Crystal Lake leagues know about the series. Thre were a few dozen Illinois Ams at the Milwaukee Ice Bowl that know as well.
We will be advertising intensly over the next few monthes leading to the Streamwood Starter. Anyone interested in posting flyers, let me know.
Thanks
Brett
Quote
Look for some tough USDGC style holes @ the Fairfield Finale on the Pro/Advanced day.
Are you planning on having 6 miles of rope or string to define fairways?
Sounds like fun
QuoteQuote
Look for some tough USDGC style holes @ the Fairfield Finale on the Pro/Advanced day.
Are you planning on having 6 miles of rope or string to define fairways?
Sounds like fun
Expect about 2000 feet of yellow rope:
O.b. zones to the right of basket 3 and left of basket 4, hole 5 becomes an island hole with a 100 foot diameter green, a long o.b. line seperates hole 12 from hole 18 and the hole 12 swamp is out of bounds for holes 12 and 18. This will speed play as well as make the course more interesting to play.
We might have some additional o.b. at Crystal Lake and Stramwood too. We talked about it but did not finalize anything. Might depend on how soon I buy the rope.
I'm getting excited about this series too. :blink:
The Ace Pool Fee will be $2.00 at the Streamwood Starter.
The Illinois Open Series flyer is done. Someone please help proof read and make recommendations for future revisions.
QuoteThe Illinois Open Series flyer is done. Someone please help proof read and make recommendations for future revisions.
Looks good. I'd separate the line about the Fairwell presented in association...
in a bit smaller type so it all fits on one line and then put Discontinuum in boldface.
also, having a period after '9:20' and 'meeting' but not 'thereafter' is inconsistent, but I'd leave em all off entirely or maybe use dashes. Maybe a dash after 'division' under the 1st bullet for 'Format'.
blank line before "Contact:", but I see you're running out of space ;)
The flyer looks good. I did not find any mistakes. Thanks Jon!!
Last year we had 95 players attend the 2003 Illinois Open @ Round Lake. Unfortunately, we had to turn away approximately 20 players due to lack of holes for that one day tournament. We then realized that Northern IL is in need of more disc golf events & that is why we've put together the 2004 Illinois Open Series, so no one gets turned away.
We have been planning these events since September of 2003. It's taken a ton of work getting all 3 parks ok'd, scheduling, format, sanctioning agreements, website and flyers done. We have now moved on to the publicity stage.
Our goal is to have 540 players attend the 3 tournaments. Over the next few monthes flyers will be posted at courses and tournaments. We are dedicated to running great tournaments. Only 4 monthes until the Streamwood Starter .
Please help & post a flyer at your local course or league. Be part of the first and largest series in IL. Thank you.
http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?a...e=post&id=10915 (http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10915)
QuoteLooks good. I'd separate the line about the Fairwell presented in association...
in a bit smaller type so it all fits on one line and then put Discontinuum in boldface.
also, having a period after '9:20' and 'meeting' but not 'thereafter' is inconsistent, but I'd leave em all off entirely or maybe use dashes. Maybe a dash after 'division' under the 1st bullet for 'Format'.
blank line before "Contact:", but I see you're running out of space ;)
Thanks for the input Damon. I updated the flyer. http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?a...e=post&id=10915 (http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10915)
a good thing for the website would be to keep a tally
of people who pre reg
yes it was a shame to turn people away
but that should educate players
they should pre reg in advance
it should be a learning experience for them
i think my bro was one of the last in
i was pre reg we drove together
COMMITT to playing no fence waffle
ohh its raining forget it
just an idea reward the pre regs
maybe a chance in a raffle for something for all the events
keep up the good work
how much does kinko's charge to laminate a page ?
Quotehow much does kinko's charge to laminate a page ?
I'm not for sure Mike. I have my wife laminate at school. I have also used the clear pockets & tape around them. They hold of for a long time.
Quotehow much does kinko's charge to laminate a page ?
About a buck, around here, if you are doing several pages. They charge by the foot and it depends on how good your person is at organizing your pages.
The Illinois Open Series has been upgraded to an AM B tier/Pro C tier!
New info. Am B-Tier
Saturday Entry Fee Sunday Entry Fee
Pro 2 <960 $42 Open Pro $42
Adv Masters $43 Pro Masters $42
Intermediate <915 $33 Pro Women $42
Recreational <875 $33 Advanced <960 $43
Int. Women <800 $33 Adv Women $43
Juniors <16 years $23
Registration: 8:00 a.m. to 9:20. 9:35 a.m. players meeting. Tee off thereafter.
All Divisions, All Events, All Days are PDGA Sanctioned Am B/ Pro C Tier
Illinois Open #1, June 26 and 27
The Streamwood Starter, Shady Oaks Park, Streamwood
Illinois Open #2, July 24 and 25
The Crystal Cruise, Lippold Park, Crystal Lake
Illinois Open #3, August 28 and 29
The Fairfield Fairwell, Fairfield Park, Round Lake
Format Notes
Two rounds of 18 holes with a final safari round of 4 holes for the top 4 Open players
100% Payout to all divisions
All events are PDGA sanctioned
Trophy or plaque for series overall winner in each division
No added fee for overall points and awards
PDGA non-members must pay the additional non-member $5 fee.
Pro 2 is a PDGA sanctioned division in 2004, primarily for players rated under 960. Amateurs can take prizes in lieu of cash and retain their amateur status
in Pro 2. Amateurs get Advanced points and pros get pro points.
Player packs for all players of $10-$15 value. See flyer for more details.
Rolling ace pool. If no one hits it rolls over to the next event.
Contact:
Jon Brakel
Illinois Open Tournament Director
(847) 670-1757
QuoteNew info. Am B-Tier
Saturday Entry Fee Sunday Entry Fee
Pro 2 <960 $42 Open Pro $42
Adv Masters $43 Pro Masters $42
glad I saw this tonight, I was going to post a flyer in Mokena tomorrow; guess I'll wait for the updated flyers.
I was leaning towards playing Int for these instead of Adv Masters anyhow, but the new price structure pretty much settles it <_<
QuoteI was leaning towards playing Int for these instead of Adv Masters anyhow, but the new price structure pretty much settles it <_<
Thanks Damon! We'll have new flyers ready to go ASAP. It was very hard to put together a schedule this year. For this reason, we decided to sanction all 3 Am days as B-Tier. This will lock in our date for next year.
This may alter your decisio as well Damon.
For the $10.00 mandatory B-Tier player pack you may choose
A. $10.00 Cash
B. $15.00 Funny Money
QuoteQuoteI was leaning towards playing Int for these instead of Adv Masters anyhow, but the new price structure pretty much settles it <_<
Thanks Damon! We'll have new flyers ready to go ASAP. It was very hard to put together a schedule this year. For this reason, we decided to sanction all 3 Am days as B-Tier. This will lock in our date for next year.
This may alter your decisio as well Damon.
For the $10.00 mandatory B-Tier player pack you may choose
A. $10.00 Cash
B. $15.00 Funny Money
Basically the player's pack is a choice of putting together your own player's pack (you can even hold onto your funny money and combine with your winnings--if you win) or taking a player's pack that everyone can agree is worth $10! ;)
Upgrading the series to B-tier not only gives us protected dates for next year it also protects our dates this year. C-tiers this year do not have a mileage protection, but B-tiers do.
Quote
For the $10.00 mandatory B-Tier player pack you may choose
A. $10.00 Cash
B. $15.00 Funny Money
That's good to know. I was wondering (hoping) if y'all were going to take that approach with the tournaments in IL.
QuoteQuote
For the $10.00 mandatory B-Tier player pack you may choose
A. $10.00 Cash
B. $15.00 Funny Money
That's good to know. I was wondering (hoping) if y'all were going to take that approach with the tournaments in IL.
Damon, Intermediate Masters was abolished with the 2004 format changes.
Damon's comments underscore the importance of advertising the player pack options. $43 is pretty steep for Advanced Masters but it is straight off the PDGA entry fee schedule. $33 is just about right and it is what you actually pay if you take the $10 rebate for your player pack.
Bruce,
I think Damon was thinking of playing Intermediate instead of playing Adv Masters.
Quote
Damon, Intermediate Masters was abolished with the 2004 format changes.
Bruce,
I think Damon was thinking of playing Intermediate instead of playing Adv Masters.
I know, and I am.
I know, therefore I am.
An am.
Can't wait!
Website updated for B-tier status. Flyer coming soon! Thanks to everyone that has posted flyers so far!
click here to go to the Illinois Open Index (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/)
Re: ace pool rollover
The latest flyer says 'rollover to next day/event'. While I think rolling it through all 3 events is a cool idea within each division, i.e. pro/am, Sat/Sun, it's a little unfair to have one combined pool (if that's the intention) since the Sunday players could be taking the Sat players money (or vice versa) when the Sat players wouldn't be getting a shot at it on Sun.
I'm not expressing this well, but I think you know what I mean. I'd suggest having two separate pools, one for Sat, one for Sun.
QuoteRe: ace pool rollover
The latest flyer says 'rollover to next day/event'. While I think rolling it through all 3 events is a cool idea within each division, i.e. pro/am, Sat/Sun, it's a little unfair to have one combined pool (if that's the intention) since the Sunday players could be taking the Sat players money (or vice versa) when the Sat players wouldn't be getting a shot at it on Sun.
I'm not expressing this well, but I think you know what I mean. I'd suggest having two separate pools, one for Sat, one for Sun.
Everyone except for the top pros (i.e. over 960 rating) can play both days if they don't want a chance that someone playing a day that they are not playing might hit an ace. I'm not sure what difference it makes though whether you are there or not when the ace is hit. We all play rolling ace pools all the time at league and we all know that we won't be at every league. The last couple of league aces were hit when I wasn't there.
QuoteRe: ace pool rollover
... it's a little unfair to have one combined pool (if that's the intention) since the Sunday players could be taking the Sat players money (or vice versa) when the Sat players wouldn't be getting a shot at it on Sun.
It is fair in the sense that the rules are simple and spelled out in advance, and the game is optional. Unlike taxes and death, which both seem unfair when specifically applied to me, the ace pool is optional. It is also fair in the sense that the rollover applies equally to Saturday players and Sunday players. So to the extent that it is unfair, it is equally unfair.
If the Streamwood Starter rolls $200-$300 over to the Crystal Cruise, that should help boost attendance. Higher attendance is good for players wanting PDGA points and accurate PDGA ratings. If the Streamwood ace pool rolls over from Saturday to Sunday, none of the Sunday players will say it is unfair. If it rolls over from Streamwood to Crystal Lake, none of the Saturday players will say it is unfair either.
QuoteQuoteRe: ace pool rollover
... it's a little unfair to have one combined pool (if that's the intention) since the Sunday players could be taking the Sat players money (or vice versa) when the Sat players wouldn't be getting a shot at it on Sun.
It is fair in the sense that the rules are simple and spelled out in advance, and the game is optional. Unlike taxes and death, which both seem unfair when specifically applied to me, the ace pool is optional. It is also fair in the sense that the rollover applies equally to Saturday players and Sunday players. So to the extent that it is unfair, it is equally unfair.
If the Streamwood Starter rolls $200-$300 over to the Crystal Cruise, that should help boost attendance. Higher attendance is good for players wanting PDGA points and accurate PDGA ratings. If the Streamwood ace pool rolls over from Saturday to Sunday, none of the Sunday players will say it is unfair. If it rolls over from Streamwood to Crystal Lake, none of the Saturday players will say it is unfair either.
I understand your arguments, and it is optional, and it's your tournament(s) after all, but I still think this could piss some people off B)
I've never played Crystal Lake, but it's pretty unlikely that there won't be at least one ace at Streamwood on Saturday anyhow, so it's probably all a moot point.
Unless no one hits it in all 6 tournaments. Then what? If there's a throwoff (unless the $ is going to 'charity'), only those in attendance the last day (potentially half of whom wouldn't be playing) would be eligible, so that's a bit less than equally unfair. (I know, you could make the same sort of case with separate pools if you don't play the last leg...)
I assume one would have to pay into the ace pool for each leg? i.e. if you enter for Streamwood and no one hits, you'd have to pay at CL/RL to still be eligible?
QuoteI assume one would have to pay into the ace pool for each leg? i.e. if you enter for Streamwood and no one hits, you'd have to pay at CL/RL to still be eligible?
You don't have to pay into the ace pool for each leg, only those that you want to have a chance to win the pool. If there is no ace hit at Fairfield on either day there will be a jumbo toss for the ace pool. Saturday only players would be welcome to come back and throw off if it hasn't been hit.
Jon, Bruce, & I have discussed the IO Series a ton. Our goal is to draw as many players as possible. I think our philosophy is to advertise everything that we are doing. We don't want to surprise anyone on the day of. What you see is what you get.
I'm not for sure if the running ace pool will ever roll over. Streamwood is a tough course and has no really easy ace holes. If it happens, it would probably be at that course. Crystal Lake has a ton of ace holes & Fairfield has #8 & all the wide open holes. There are no gurantees though. We are hoping that if the ace pool would roll over a few times that is would build up BIG. How cool would it be to have a HUGE ace pool. There would be more incentive for players to play both days as well. We hope this helps attendance. Well attended events = greater competition, more points, bigger payouts, & builds reputation of the event. I envision this series becoming bigger. We hope this is one way it helps.
You guys are doing a bunch of work WAY up front.
I'm looking forward to all three events!
QuoteYou guys are doing a bunch of work WAY up front.
I'm looking forward to all three events!
It really helps that none of us really have a life, doesn't it?
Flyer is done. Please feel free to distribute to anyone who might be interested. For those that have put up the old flyer, I would appreciate it if you replace with this one at your convenience. If you posted it at a course that you won't be going back to, please let Brett or me know so that we can make arrangements to replace it.
Click here to go to the flyer post: Illinois Open Flyer (http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=944&view=findpost&p=10915)
QuoteFlyer is done. Please feel free to distribute to anyone who might be interested. For those that have put up the old flyer, I would appreciate it if you replace with this one at your convenience. If you posted it at a course that you won't be going back to, please let Brett or me know so that we can make arrangements to replace it.
Click here to go to the flyer post: Illinois Open Flyer (http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=944&view=findpost&p=10915)
Jon,
It looks like the 'new' flyer still has the 'old' entry fees - not the same that Brett posted a few days ago. Am I looking at the right one?
QuoteFlyer is done. Please feel free to distribute to anyone who might be interested. For those that have put up the old flyer, I would appreciate it if you replace with this one at your convenience. If you posted it at a course that you won't be going back to, please let Brett or me know so that we can make arrangements to replace it.
Click here to go to the flyer post: Illinois Open Flyer (http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=944&view=findpost&p=10915)
The information on your webpage is good. The flyer you are linking us to has the C-tier entry fees on it.
QuoteQuoteFlyer is done. Please feel free to distribute to anyone who might be interested. For those that have put up the old flyer, I would appreciate it if you replace with this one at your convenience. If you posted it at a course that you won't be going back to, please let Brett or me know so that we can make arrangements to replace it.
Click here to go to the flyer post: Illinois Open Flyer (http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=944&view=findpost&p=10915)
Jon,
It looks like the 'new' flyer still has the 'old' entry fees - not the same that Brett posted a few days ago. Am I looking at the right one?
Thanks for catching that. I updated the table but forgot to apply the change. It's fixed now.
You can link to the 2004 IO Series flyer by clicking here. (http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=944&view=findpost&p=10915)
Can one of our Kenosha club members post a flyer @ UW Parkside?
Damon,
I have copies ready to go. The next time I see you, i'll give them too you.
Quote
Damon,
I have copies ready to go. The next time I see you, i'll give them too you.
I might make it to Lippold on Saturday. If not it's no big deal to print a few out myself.
PDGA.com has been updated to the correct AM (B-Tier) Pro (C-Tier) information.
I think the Ace Pool is up to $10.00 after the California Tag Challenge @ Crystal Lake. I will be putting together another Tag Challenge in the next few weeks. Details to follow. I'm looking at March 28th after leagues. Jon, you want to help?
QuoteI think the Ace Pool is up to $10.00 after the California Tag Challenge @ Crystal Lake. I will be putting together another Tag Challenge in the next few weeks. Details to follow. I'm looking at March 28th after leagues. Jon, you want to help?
Sure!
QuoteQuoteI think the Ace Pool is up to $10.00 after the California Tag Challenge @ Crystal Lake. I will be putting together another Tag Challenge in the next few weeks. Details to follow. I'm looking at March 28th after leagues. Jon, you want to help?
Sure!
If Jon is helping with a tag event then I can rent out the pink room that weekend?
The next tag thing I do will probably be on the Saturday of Easter Sunday weekend, and I'm thinking it will be Stoney longs or Byron.
Diana said, "Are you making money on these tag challenge things?" in a tone of voice that suggested that I should be, and I said, "I might have made $2 on the last one not counting my time dying those discs," and she rolled her eyes.
If anyone hits the ace, Brett, pay them what you have and the ten I'm holding. I'll pay you at Streamwood if I don't see you on the GLO/NASCAR weekend.
The ace pool is currently $26.00. I'm looking for a weekend in May to run another tag challenge after leagues.
Brass cash:
(moderator edit: bruce re-upped a web-friendly version, so I deleted this one...)
Bruce's edit: Censorship! Censorship! Discrimination against the web unfriendly!
:D
So what program would I use to open a .psd file?
I downloaded & swapped the image with a gif.
Hmmm. I seem to have forgotten how to do pictures.
QuoteI downloaded & swapped the image with a gif.
I did the same thing while you were, but mine involved a break to check on the sick kid. The $5 coins are slightly bigger than a quarter. The $1 coins are slightly smaller than a nickel. They are shiny and gold but it is hard to get gold metallic to look gold in the picture so I photoshopped it a little.
This is funny: they showed up on Wednesday before I left while Steve was here making the new closet. "Someone" [not me; I don't tidy up] thought it was a bucket of drywall mud and put it with Steve's stuff. Steve put more stuff on top of it, covering the address label. When he left, someone tidied again and put it somewhere for Steve to find when he comes back to do finish sanding.
I saw the bucket sitting there before I left for Iowa and thought, "I've never seen drywall mud in squarish buckets before. I bet it saves a little on shipping or something."
I called the mint and expressed my anxiety and frustation over the non-delivery or misdelivery of the coins. I guess now I have to call and apologize.
Now I removed the picture entirely from your first post.... ;)
Maybe a good description of how the coins look while new is like the Sacagawea dollars when they first came out?
Those look sweet. Now that is some cool funny money!!!
QuoteNow I removed the picture entirely from your first post.... ;)
Maybe a good description of how the coins look while new is like the Sacagawea dollars when they first came out?
If Sacageawea had spiky hair and a torch! The $5 coins are about that size, yeah, but the ones are smaller.
I meant more the gold color....
QuoteI meant more the gold color....
I know. That's just what passes for humor with me.
I counted and rolled my $5 coins tonight. I received seven extra $5s! Woo-hoo! That's almost like being $35 richer. Rolling them will keep them newer and shinier longer and will make them easier to count in the future.
I also counted and rolled my $1s and counted three extra of those. I've got enough extra here to buy three Z-Crushes, including one cool dyed one, from myself!
humor, bah!
:D
Illinois Open Series web pages have been updated with last year's champions, information on this year's points system and a few cosmetic changes. Is it complex enough to call it a web site yet or is still just a mingling of web pages?
On the page that shows last year's winners, the link from the player name to his PDGA stats is a nice touch.
QuoteOn the page that shows last year's winners, the link from the player name to his PDGA stats is a nice touch.
AND easy! ;)
Stremwood pictures have been added to the Discontinuum Page.
You can also preregister from the Illinois Open Series. There is a link on the main page of the DISContinuum site.
Post moved to the Streamwood thread.
It rained all day Thursday & Friday nights. We still have 2 weeks for this to dry out. Mirth, could you move this to the Streamwood Page?
Hmm, I can't move just Kyle's post but since I see he's still reading this thread he'll also post that info in the Streamwood thread?
I know a lot of people have been reading this thread. Just don't want anyone to get scared off from playing this tournament with the course being flooded 2 weeks prior. Many people don't check the date of a post.
Good point Brett. I forgot to look for a Streamwood topic before I posted.
Looks like a fun course. I'm looking forward to the tournament.
I played in a tournament recently with about 60 advanced amateurs. I have no idea what payouts looked like because I played poorly and finished out of the prizes. Also, complete payout information was not posted for amateurs. Anyway, all this got me thinking about what a 60 player payout would look like at an Illinois Open event, so I ran the numbers through the payout charts.
First, at registration you either would have received $15 in funny money or a $10 cash rebate, your choice. Then the payout would go something like this:
1--185
2--155
3--140
4--130
5--120
6--105
7--100
8---90
9---85
10--80
11--75
12--70
13--65
14--60
15--55
16--55
17--50
18--50
19--45
20--45
21--40
22--35
23--35
24--30
25--30
26--25
27--25
Jon will be doing Sunday payouts and he might use exact dollar payouts rather than rounded to 5's but it would be very similar.
The payout would be in funny money that you could spend immediately on discs, towels, hats, and other stuff, or could accumulate to save up for a Skill-Shot or Chainstar basket. Tournament stamped Z-plastic would be about $12 a disc, Innova Champion is a little more and fly-dye is a buck or two extra. The Waterford Junior Girls' colormax fund raising discs are a little more too.
We will have Innova and Discraft discs, and if we don't have what you want at one event, we'll put you on the list to get it for you for the next event. We will be reloading through out the season and will always be getting fresh merch.
Also, the funny money will be good at the Bevier Blast in mid-September and will remain good until Jan 1, 2005. We will make every effort to get you what you want if you let us know.
Some cool stuff we will definately have includes the Cryztal Z-Challengers, Photon UV Challengers and the new Flash. But I'll have a whole carload of merch plus whatever will fit in the pod! Discontinuum's Gateway Guy will be selling Gateway for cash but I don't think he is taking funny money.
If I'm pre-registering and mailing a check, who does the check get made out to?
Won't be able to play Streamwood, but planning on playing the next two.
QuoteIf I'm pre-registering and mailing a check, who does the check get made out to?
Won't be able to play Streamwood, but planning on playing the next two.
Jon Brakel
Just my two cents, but kudos to everyone involved on doing the virtual tours of the courses for the IO. There's a lot of work that goes into doing that, and while it won't replace an actual walk-through of the course, it does help a lot to know what is waiting for you before you get to the course.
Great job all.
Steve
daily herald article about crystal lake
neighbor section
guy i used to work with brought it over
ill scan and post tonight
couldnt find it on the website
http://www.dailyherald.com/search/main_sto...?intID=38154140 (http://www.dailyherald.com/search/main_story.asp?intID=38154140)
I'd like to pre-reg for Streamwood..
Just wondering if I'll see Jon before the The Starter
QuoteI'd like to pre-reg for Streamwood..
Just wondering if I'll see Jon before the The Starter
You can always mail me the form and a check. Information is on the website.
I secured a free, indoor place to camp for the Streamwood Starter for my family and myself. A friend just moved out of his condo so we have an unfurnished place to ourselves just a couple of miles from Jon!
Trophies are coming along. I've got some T-Rex Monsters dying in the basement. I'm excited about this.
I walked the Streamwood Shady Oaks course (IOS #1, the Streamwood Starter) today and measured the Pro final 4 safari holes. The course is LUSH, like most courses around here. There are no signs of the earlier flooding. I found a little surprise there from the parks people. All the tees and baskets have been newly chipped!! Elmo has been after them to get some chips down and he called them last week and reminded them that the tournament is just a week away.
The final Pro 4 safari holes will play as follows:
Tee 1 to basket 2: 469 feet
Tee 2 to basket 3: 343 feet
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
Tee 6 to basket 15: 431 feet
There were a lot of players practicing for the event while I was there and the 7-day forecast looks pretty good for next weekend. See ya there!!!
I'm thinking of playing a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. I'd rather do that than the Tues doubles and Thursday won't work for me.
Quote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
QuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
QuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
I only have to make one card, so I was planning on neatly hand-writing it. I really like hole #4 because of the nice risk/reward choices, but going to basket 5 might make for a nice hole...I'll have to think about it.
QuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
No, 6 tee to 15 basket plays all on the east side of the creek. 15 is the 700+ foot hole. This safari hole has a large tree in the middle of it about 1/3 down the fairway and then it has obsticles around the basket area.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.
Jon, my statement, "maybe the scorecard is already done," was a joke. I think someone could draw up a scorecard while someone else was yelling, "Bring it in."
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.
right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.
right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.
OK, I thought this thread needed one more quote-within-a!
I think we are going to make a change and play tee 4 to basket 5. I will measure before Sunday and the distance will be on the pro final 4 safari card. Thanks for the idea Damon. If the pros hate it, I'll just say "Well, Damon suggested it!"
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.
right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.
OK, I thought this thread needed one more quote-within-a!
I think we are going to make a change and play tee 4 to basket 5. I will measure before Sunday and the distance will be on the pro final 4 safari card. Thanks for the idea Damon. If the pros hate it, I'll just say "Well, Damon suggested it!"
and I'll be sure to wear my orange shirt... ;)
ya know, once you get all these semi-concentric boxes going with these replies they sort of start moving around.... :blink: ; especially if you stare at them too long.
And if you stare at them for a really long time you can see Venus.
If you'd like to volunteer on Saturday or Sunday to spot or help with anything, let me know. I really need someone to run the DISContinuum table in the morning on Saturday. Last year spotter received tourney stamped discs.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
Hole 4 as is: 423 feet
did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...
That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea. If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything. :blink: :D
now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind... :P
But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?
Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.
right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.
OK, I thought this thread needed one more quote-within-a!
I think we are going to make a change and play tee 4 to basket 5. I will measure before Sunday and the distance will be on the pro final 4 safari card. Thanks for the idea Damon. If the pros hate it, I'll just say "Well, Damon suggested it!"
and I'll be sure to wear my orange shirt... ;)
ya know, once you get all these semi-concentric boxes going with these replies they sort of start moving around.... :blink: ; especially if you stare at them too long.
Its almost like a topographic map....
Jon - wanted you to know that Brett has Adrian Jr's prereg check... thats all I got on Sunday.
Just sent in the Pre-Reg forms for both Kyle and myself for Saturday. I work in Lake Forest, so Jon should get them tomorrow or Thursday at the latest (I hope).
Been looking forward to this one for a while! We'll see you Saturday morning if we don't see you sooner!
I'll be sending in my pre-reg for Crystal Lake and Round Lake, but I'm not a PDGA member and have never played a tourney before. Which division should I sign up for, Recreational? Intermediate? Suggestions please. :rolleyes:
QuoteI'll be sending in my pre-reg for Crystal Lake and Round Lake, but I'm not a PDGA member and have never played a tourney before. Which division should I sign up for, Recreational? Intermediate? Suggestions please. :rolleyes:
Have you played Crystal Lake or Round Lake? What kind of scores do you get?
I'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:
I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...
With playing Round Lake as a Par 3 all the way around, I usually shoot btw 1 to 4 under par. I've only played Crystal Lake once this year, but didn't play it as a par 3. I think I shot around 8 under or so using the posted par. Thanks for the help, Jon!
QuoteWith playing Round Lake as a Par 3 all the way around, I usually shoot btw 1 to 4 under par. I've only played Crystal Lake once this year, but didn't play it as a par 3. I think I shot around 8 under or so using the posted par. Thanks for the help, Jon!
I play Round Lake around par, sometimes a few over and I play Rec. (I have a Recreational rating and I'm not afraid to use it!) I'd say if you can consistently play that course under par, then you'd probably be able to compete in Intermediate, but since you haven't played a PDGA event you are entitled to play Rec if you choose.
QuoteI'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:
I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...
I'll post here on Wednesday if I can. I won't know until tomorrow.
QuoteQuoteI'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:
I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...
I'll post here on Wednesday if I can. I won't know until tomorrow.
Wed forecast looks bad... if I go I'll be leaving the orifice at 3 pm, will update my plans by then. Not playing in the rain if it's not real light. <_<
QuoteIf you'd like to volunteer on Saturday or Sunday to spot or help with anything, let me know. I really need someone to run the DISContinuum table in the morning on Saturday. Last year spotter received tourney stamped discs.
Since I'll be playing Am Saturday, I can volunteer on Sunday.
Ride may be an issue though, since my car is now a pond of solidified liquid metal
diron
i feel your pain
my car needs AC, battery (starter) oil change
hubcaps light bulb for turn signal
wifes car needs light for turn signal and new windshield
due to kids softball playoffs sat and sun
and having good tix for the sox/scubs game on sunday
ill be missing this T :( :(
from the looks of things i bet that there will be a big crowd
I thought your car was getting fixed, not melted down!
QuoteI'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:
I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...
Damon,
I won't be able to make it afterall. I was running a bit late this morning and forgot to take a change of clothes with me. Probably just as well...I have a few things to do to get ready for the weekend.
Jon
QuoteQuoteI'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:
I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...
Damon,
I won't be able to make it afterall. I was running a bit late this morning and forgot to take a change of clothes with me. Probably just as well...I have a few things to do to get ready for the weekend.
Jon
looking like I won't go today myselfl w/ the impending weather & all...maybe I'll see you guys out there Friday afternoon...
QuoteI thought your car was getting fixed, not melted down!
The bodyshop it was being painted at had a "5-alarm fire", you probably heard it on the news. Stupid thing was I was going to get it back the next morning.
Reds Autobody in Glenview
Well hey, look at the bright side - you get a totally different car now!
Quotedue to kids softball playoffs sat and sun
and having good tix for the sox/scubs game on sunday
have fun watching the sox get the smack laid down on them! this year shouldn't even be a contest between the two. i predict cubs 5 games to 1 (wendell kim will screw up one game somehow).
best place to see a game
300 level
a little more expensive but no lines for the bathroom
waitress service
nice comfy couches with plasma screens if
the fan wants to get out of the elements
dan - 5-1 cubs
ooooogh thats going out on a limb
ill predict home team wins 2 out of the 3
so 3-3 is my prediction
if mags was healthy i would say sox all the way
cubs playing good ball starters awesome with the injuries
barrett cost them game last night
isnt it amazing how little things affect the outcome of the game
sox were playing well but are in some sort of funk
not sure whats going on but that team can put up some runs
so beware
QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:
I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish. Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...
Damon,
I won't be able to make it afterall. I was running a bit late this morning and forgot to take a change of clothes with me. Probably just as well...I have a few things to do to get ready for the weekend.
Jon
looking like I won't go today myselfl w/ the impending weather & all...maybe I'll see you guys out there Friday afternoon...
Damon, are you still looking for a 170 gram Z-Wasp? I now have two. They are at the bottom of the pile of Z-Wasps. I'll keep them out of circulation until i hear a yes or no from you.
Quote
Damon, are you still looking for a 170 gram Z-Wasp? I now have two. They are at the bottom of the pile of Z-Wasps. I'll keep them out of circulation until i hear a yes or no from you.
YES. YES. thanks for remembering, I meant to email you again.
I hope to be out there early afternoon on Friday, and will probably hang around til early evening, since with rush hour traffic it's kind of pointless to try to drive back into the city before at least 7....
So I should be able to get a real round or two in and still be able to offer some help.
QuoteQuote
Damon, are you still looking for a 170 gram Z-Wasp? I now have two. They are at the bottom of the pile of Z-Wasps. I'll keep them out of circulation until i hear a yes or no from you.
YES. YES. thanks for remembering, I meant to email you again.
I hope to be out there early afternoon on Friday, and will probably hang around til early evening, since with rush hour traffic it's kind of pointless to try to drive back into the city before at least 7....
So I should be able to get a real round or two in and still be able to offer some help.
I'll be there early afternoon sometime too. I only have to move eight or nine things to get those Wasps out so I'll be happy to take care of that if i see you out there.
Anyone playing on Am day (saturday) that is driving through Libertyville with space for two more? Todd and I.
We'll pitch in for gas.
We'll be at the course around 5:00PM tonight. We'll be picking up trash & getting ready for Saturday. You may help & regiter tonight if you'd like.
I'll be out there today until around when your leaving Brett. I need to get atleast one round of practice in.
I am interested in playing the Streamwood tourney only. Probably recreational...what time do I need to register.
Get there as early as possible
QuoteI am interested in playing the Streamwood tourney only. Probably recreational...what time do I need to register.
Registration starts at 8am.
The course has dried out nicely the last couple of days and is in GREAT shape.
I was really surprised with the condition of the course. Every tee pad was fairly dry except for #18. I actually liked the wood chip tee pads over several other types of tees i've played. The course is very green & the swamp area with willows is nasty.
Dan, I have your Barry Schultz Beast. Some guy pulled out a handful of discs & that was one of the. I also, bought a CE Valk he found for $5.00.
meso excitied! :lol:
what no results yet ?
great weather both days
rubber game for sox/cubs today
ill lean toward the sox
maddox has given up several homers this year
estoban is due for a great game
have fun today
We had the most fantastic weather and the course was in great condition. We had a total of 78 players (we made the B tier minimum!) which I thought wasn't bad for a course's first ever PDGA tournament. I'm tired so tonight I'm going to kick back and relax. I can't post both days of results on the PDGA website since we had one guy who played both days. I'll post on my own website as soon as I can. I'll start work on it tomorrow evening.
Thanks to everyone who came for helping to make it a great event!!!
Jon is right, you can't ask for better weather. Mid 70's, sunny, & low wind speeds made play very enjoyable all weekend.
The course looked fantastic. Very green & lush. The tees improved over the weekend. All the play really flattened them out. I know some people didn't like the wood chips but I liked them.
As a player on Sunday, I enjoyed the fact of playing in a 3-some. Each round took about 1 hour & 45 minutes. Players were leaving by 4:30PM. Having 38 & 40 per day has it's advantages :D.
I want to send out a big thanks to all DISContinuum Members who helped volunteer in any way and to those who participated. We had 17 club members play the event & Maddisen ran the pop stand & worked brass cash player packs, making 18 club members in attendance over the weekend.
Thanks to the Brakel Family for another fine event.
Thanks to Kevin L., Jason W., & Adrian Sr. for helping setting up on Saturday.
Thanks to Dan M. & Jason H. for working the DISContinuum Table.
Thanks to Damon for spotting all day on Sunday.
Another big thanks to Jason H. for showing up both days setting up, working, & tearing down!!!!!!!!!
As for my play, I had a cold & hot day. I sucked it up the first round taking 2 double bogies, 2 bogies, & 6 birdies to play even par. I managed to shoot a -5 in the afternoon to tie for 5th out of 18 advanced players. Luke M. & I split 5th & 6th place winnings. We each got $52.50 in brass cash. I think 1st took $150.00 in brass cash.
Kieth Warren won Open.
Adrain Jr. won Junior
I'm not sure of the others.
I will get series points updated when the results are posted by Jon.
One thing that I'd like to point out about our tournaments is the efficient manner in which we run them. Maybe it's because Bruce and I are German, but we pride ourselves in running a smooth tournament. Our lunch breaks are always an hour after the last card comes in. By the time the last card came in today for the morning round, I had all the Pro division leader board cards sorted and the score cards filled out and put out on the board.
By the time the first card came back in the afternoon, I had everything all set for the awards. We were able to start the awards about 3 minutes after the Advanced playoff ended. I like to save the Pro final 4 until all the Am cards come in so they can watch, but at Streamwood I was afraid it might start raining so I sent the pros off as soon as we were ready. As it turned out the rain held off. Bruce and Brett run the amateur day just as efficiently.
I point this out only because I don't want people to be surprised when they take an hour and 15 minute lunch that the second round has already started. Likewise, we are ready right away to run awards. One guy who won prizes in Advanced said to me after the Advanced playoff was over that he needed to get his prizes because he had to leave. I said "OK, we'll get to your place in about 2 minutes here."
I am going to start looking forward to IOS #2 just as soon as I finish with the post tourney paper work. :D
Well run, Jon. Great payouts. During the players' meetings you need to work on screaming like a madman when you talk, or delegate that job to someone for whom screaming like a madman is a natural ability.
I think if we run small quality events for amateurs who get it, that's fine. Eventually they will tell their friends and the thing will grow, but until then we have something fun for the Brakel family and fun for the Discontinuum extended family. Bigger is rarely more fun for the TDs. It is not like we are losing money. In fact, we have almost paid for the overall plaques, so if IOS 2 is similarly attended we'll be able to have about nine CTPs each day at IOS 3.
The neighbors to hole 18 seemed to appreciate having the yellow rope across their back property line. I don't think i can get back to Illinois before the CryZtal CruiZe for a yellow rope conference so you and Brett will need to settle those issues. I like the idea we discussed for hole 3, and an island hole for the redesigned hole 6 might make it a lot less lame.
I had some binoculars with me yesterday while I was spotting from the 'gap' on #8. I happened to pick them up to take a look at Bruce's group on #7 just before the moment when Luke hit his (non-pool) ace on #7.
They're pretty good spyglasses; I could see clearly all the way across to putts on #12 (although not *hearing* them was kind of weird). One cool effect was seeing 3 or 4 drives - from the different holes in the air simultaneously, and it struck me that it could make kind of an interesting aerial photo.
Shots of the weekend that I saw:
One of the pros in the final 4 threw on number 4 over the creek and landed within 50 feet of the basket. I was too far away to tell who it was and he didn't convert the deuce so I couldn't tell by the score card either. But it was one heck of a shot.
Then Kelsey hit a monster of a putt on #18 to card a three on that hole. I think about half of the ams shot a 4 or worse on that hole over the weekend. This was on Sunday when Kelsey was playing with Barrett. Barrett said she can't wait until kelsey will be playing in her division all the time.
My most memorable shot of the year so far for me happened while I was TDing on Sunday. After I had everything ready to go for the awards and was just waiting for the second round cards to come in, I decided to throw a bit to loosen up. There was a lull on 16 so I threw 2 drives and turned them both over. I threw them while the guys on 17 were writing their scores down for 16. After they threw I walked over to their fairway where my drives were and I picked up the first one and threw a spike hyzer (thumb inside). I was about 150 feet out and the disc came down just a few feet in front of the basket and then bounced in! The guys who walked by me turned around and looked and I said I just threw a spike hyzer like this and it went in. I proceeded to throw the second one and it hit the ground right in front of the basket and bounced a little flatter and hit the pole! That was amusing.
QuoteShots of the weekend that I saw:
One of the pros in the final 4 threw on number 4 over the creek and landed within 50 feet of the basket. I was too far away to tell who it was and he didn't convert the deuce so I couldn't tell by the score card either. But it was one heck of a shot.
That was Keith Warren. He was telling me all about it last night hahah, man that kid can bomb, he's only 20 years old
Forgot to mention he's a lefty, haha. That is so not a lefty hole..
Watch out for him. I'm sure Innova will be picking him up soon, if noone else gets to him first
That was an awesome drive by Kieth. What a monster turnover shot that was. He just missed the putt to the right.
Dan hit the pole on #17.
Two aces hit Sunday.
I was also playing with a guy that had a not so good hole on #5. He had a 30ft putt for 2. It hit the cage and rolled down the hill. He hit the cage again on his par putt & it rolled down. He got pissed and ran it hard. It hit the chains and bounced out. He ended up taking a 5. He still shot -5 the first round.
that ll happen on that hole
I saw a fat old guy birdie the 390 foot #10, the swamp hole with the yellow rope. He took it out over the swamp and landed it 18 feet short of the basket. I've never seen a fat old amateur throw that far!
Speaking of which, did anyone not hate the yellow rope? Because I've got 600 more feet...
I had no problem with the rope being where it was.. OB is OB, everyone has got to deal with it so quit whining and throw :D
QuoteI had no problem with the rope being where it was.. OB is OB, everyone has got to deal with it so quit whining and throw :D
I feel the same way. I think a little well placed yellow rope can make a lame course more interesting. A lot of yellow rope could make Fairfield interesting. I think that's why I have 1200 feet.
If we do anymore yellow rope we will also flag the corners so it is easier to see the outline of the o.b. area from the tee.
Quote
Two aces hit Sunday.
I still believe that on a better basket my shot on #11 Sat morning woulda stayed in.... :(
"Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit." Ray Raynor.
The next IOS is IOS #2, the Crystal Cruise at Lippold Park in Crystal Lake, July 24 and 25. Same format as #1: lower divisions play Saturday, including Pro 2 and Am Master. Advanced, Advanced Women, Open, Pro Women and Pro Masters play Sunday. Same entry fees. Same fat payouts for amateurs.
Lippold is easy to find if you've never been there. It is on Route 176 in Crystal Lake.
I've got a few photos of the final 4 at Streamwood that aren't bad. I'd be happy to upload them to a gallery here somewhere if I can get instructions/access, etc.
QuoteI've got a few photos of the final 4 at Streamwood that aren't bad. I'd be happy to upload them to a gallery here somewhere if I can get instructions/access, etc.
Can someone give Damon the access and instructions? I think the access has changed since the last time I used it.
The Saturday and Sunday TD reports are done and e-mailed. I'll post scores on the website by the end of the weekend.
2004 Illinois Open #1 Streamwood Starter Payouts
PDGA reported payouts as a percentage of entry fees minus PDGA per player fees. CTP value is spread between pro and am divisions per PDGA reporting regulations. That is why the pro payout is higher than 100%. Actual cash payout to the pros was 100% after deducting for the $2 per player C-tier PDGA fee.
Saturday Amateurs: 142%
Saturday Pros: 110%
Sunday Amateurs: 135%
Sunday Pros: 109%
I hope that everyone enjoyed themselves at the Streamwood Starter. To me that is more important than the payout. However, I think we deliver a good value for your entry fee and I wanted to share the numbers with the people that read this thread. If you had fun at Streamwood, I invite you out to Crystal Lake on July 24th and 25th. If you missed Streamwood but enjoy a good tournament experience, we'd be glad to have you at Crystal Lake.
QuoteQuoteI've got a few photos of the final 4 at Streamwood that aren't bad. I'd be happy to upload them to a gallery here somewhere if I can get instructions/access, etc.
Can someone give Damon the access and instructions? I think the access has changed since the last time I used it.
Done earlier today.
QuoteQuoteQuoteI've got a few photos of the final 4 at Streamwood that aren't bad. I'd be happy to upload them to a gallery here somewhere if I can get instructions/access, etc.
Can someone give Damon the access and instructions? I think the access has changed since the last time I used it.
Done earlier today.
thanks Mirth; The gallery's up, for some reason still as 'untitled' although I gave it a name... :blink:
Fixed. You had renamed it but never gave it a title... :)
QuoteSaturday Amateurs: 142%
Saturday Pros: 110%
Sunday Amateurs: 135%
Sunday Pros: 109%
I appreciate your percentage of payouts. It seems very generous. I was wondering if we could have some more specific numbers, i.e. expenses versus income. I'm not questioning anything, just making sure everyone understands how a tourney/series should be run.
QuoteQuoteSaturday Amateurs: 142%
Saturday Pros: 110%
Sunday Amateurs: 135%
Sunday Pros: 109%
I appreciate your percentage of payouts. It seems very generous. I was wondering if we could have some more specific numbers, i.e. expenses versus income. I'm not questioning anything, just making sure everyone understands how a tourney/series should be run.
Bruce, Brett and I run the financials on paper during the morning round so that we can figure out how many CTPs we want to run in the afternoon. There's a lot of stuff that we figure into it and it would be difficult to recreate that here. I posted the PDGA figures because they come right off the PDGA financials page.
Myk, I wouldn't mind going over the financials with you and Mirth (if he's interested) so that you can see how we do our events. It might help you prepare for your events. But I'd rather do that in person.
I also don't mind sharing the bottom line. After running afternoon CTPs and giving our volunteers some gifts, we had $120 for the Jr. Girls league and $120 for the IOS overalls. That will almost pay for the overall trophies, so hopefully at Crystal Lake we will have raised the money we need for overall trophies.
The $120 for the Jr. Girls league was raised out of merch sales? Only reason I ask is because there is no information about where proceeds from the series will go on the site or on the flyers. I know that you and Bruce are very adamant about making sure players know where their money is going when they play tourneys, so I'm just trying to help.
QuoteI know that you and Bruce are very adamant about making sure players know where their money is going when they play tourneys, so I'm just trying to help.
The entry fee money spent comes right back to the players. It's advertised 100% payouts.
Saturday Amateurs: 142%
Saturday Pros: 110%
Sunday Amateurs: 135%
Sunday Pros: 109%
In the process, the Waterford Girls made $120.00 & the overall series collected $120.00 to pay for overall prizes.
Jon,
Do you have those sheets that had the divisonal breakdown of payouts? If i'm not mistaken, the first place advanced for 18 players walked away with $150.00 brass cash. This may help clear up how the payouts were if it were listed.
My notes look like cash sales showed about $248 in profit, but the cash sales were not segregated from the overall tournament financials for a particular purpose. Profit on cash sales was part of the profitability of the event. The wholesale/retail on am prizes was the other part of the profitability of the event. Obviously our fat payouts are a big drag on the overall profitability of the event, but we are not trying to maximize profit. We are trying to maximize value to the players while returning something to the people working their asses off to putt on the event.
PDGA B-tier standards would have allowed us to pay back to the amateurs 100% of their entry fee in prizes, trophies and CTPs after deducting the $3 PDGA fee. We paid back about 137%. PDGA C-tier standards would have allowed us to pay back the pros 80% after deducting their $2 fee. We did 109% because the PDGA spreadsheet prorates the value of the CTPs and trophies. Otherwise it was 100%.
In spite of our generous payouts, the event was profitable. In other words, after paying the PDGA for sanctioning, insurance and players fees, after paying the trophy girl for making trophies, after paying me for the brass cash at a 50% discount [the brass cash is "the prizes"; I trade brass cash for discs, towels, hats, etc.], and after paying every other expense, there was still money in Jon's pocket. Some of that I took home to the Waterford Junior Girls Club; some of that went to overall trophies, and some of it went to all-day volunteers, some of it went to the other people who worked the tournament.
This event was a Jon/Brett/Bruce event, meaning we ran the type of tournament we would like to play which, incidentally, benefited 75 other players as well. If you would like to see more tournaments where the amateurs get 137% of their entry fee back in prizes, trophies and CTPs, please play our events.
One last thing: if there is anyone out there who would like to make money by raising outside cash sponsorship, talk to us. We'd be happy to have a commissioned cash sponsorship coordinator on the team. All cash sponsorship raised net of commission would be paid to the pro purse, unless the sponsor designated otherwise.
QuoteI know that you and Bruce are very adamant about making sure players know where their money is going when they play tourneys, so I'm just trying to help.
OK, here's my short philosophy on disc golf tournaments.
TDs should post on their flyers what their intended payout is going to be. They should then follow thru and payout at least that amount or percent or however they presented it on the flyer. If the TDs intended payout is less than 100%, then the TD should say on the flyer where the rest of the money is going. Whether its a course fund raiser, money for a disc golf club or to the TD. If it's a "professional" TD and they take a 20% fee off the top, then I think that should be on the flyer. Players should know what value they will get for their entry fee. In addition TDs need to make sure that they are pricing their prizes at a reasonable retail level, otherwise the percentage payout doesn't matter. If a TD pays out at or above the level that they advertised and they have money left over, then it's the TDs discretion where the rest of that money goes unless they have advertised some kind of fund raiser.
That is most of my disc golf tournament philosophy, although I have to say that I keep refining it in my head. I continue to evaluate what I think is fair. I have no control over how other TDs run their tournaments, nor should I. The above is just what I think TDs should do, and I am attempting to lead by example.
At the Bruce and Jon events and at the Bruce, Brett and Jon events we have been advertising 100% payouts. We know going in that we are low balling the Am payout. Since we don't know how many Ams are going to show up at any one event, we can say 100% and then adjust upward once we run the morning financials. I think 137% amateur payout is high enough that our players realize that we are running this for the players. I know our pro players appreciate the 100% pro payout because several of them have e-mailed me thanking me for running the event.
Full results from 2004 IOS #1 Streamwood Starter are up on the Streamwood page. (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/streamwood.htm) I included individual payouts in case you wanted to see them.
Thanks Jon!! That results page looks sweet & makes my calculating of points very easy. I'll have those done in the next day or two.
Attached is a table with the Illinois Open Series Points after the Streamwood Starter.
Communication Director Terry Calhoun was asking about IOS #1 today, but not in his official capacity as communication director but in his less official capacity as the old man I was whupping on his home course! I said at some point in the conversation, "Jon and I are starting to realize that the amateurs want to be ripped off. We don't know why they want to be ripped off but the trends are unmistakable." I then pointed out a half dozen amateur rip-off events that have huge attendance year after year. "Anyway, it puts us in a quandry because our disc golf philosophy is to do well-run events that we would want to play, under the assumption that that is what anyone would want to play. But in fact, they flock to events where the player pack is a tube of KY jelly and instructions on how to bend over, and are totally blase about 137% payouts."
Terry quoted Rule #1 and we both laughed.
Anyway, IOS #2 trophies are done and boxed up. If you play in a micro division and would like to see trophies go to second or third, trophy sponsorship is much cheaper than you would imagine.
There was something else...
I'm getting old. But it beats dying young.
Oh, I was just going to point out that the amateur payouts get fatter the more people show up. There are fixed costs that we have to cover that become smaller on a percentage basis when there are more people, like sanctioning and insurance and trophies.
Crystal Lake is probably the most fun of the three courses in the series. Invite a friend.
I was just wondering if the Streamwood Starter would be counted on my rating when they update it soon?
QuoteI was just wondering if the Streamwood Starter would be counted on my rating when they update it soon?
It should be. I heard the deadline for the next cutoff was going to be the Friday after Streamwood, so I got the PDGA reports done by then. I'm also fairly certain we had enough ratings generators although I didn't actually look it up.
Todd is concerned he'll have to shoot Adv. at Crystal Lake...
Hahaha Baaaaaggger!! :P
;)
No im not concered, and im not a bagger, im right where i should be, your the bagger. Dan will agree with me on that one
I think you guys both suck and should play the Recreational division with me at Crystal Lake
While Kira has been at camp, I figured out how to dye those mini trophies we use. It is slightly harder than I anticipated. It took two tries to get acceptable results. I wanted something that would look like a dyed disc, not like dyed wood. We may sell some dyed wood minis at Worlds.
Is there an address for the park, or could someone give me directions to the course? I'd be coming from Kenosha, but even if you started from Gurnee I'm sure I could find it.
Jay, you're from Crystal Lake area, how long/what route do you take?
QuoteIs there an address for the park, or could someone give me directions to the course? I'd be coming from Kenosha, but even if you started from Gurnee I'm sure I could find it.
Jay, you're from Crystal Lake area, how long/what route do you take?
Coming from Kenosha I would take Illnois 173 west to 31 south thru McHenry. At the intersection of 31 & 176 you'd want to head west thru Crystal Lake. The park is on the west side of Crystal Lake on the left side of 176. It's 45 miles from Kenosha to Crytal Lake. I'm guessing it will take an hour to hour & 15 minutes, maybe shorter since it's early morning travel.
Thanks Brett.
QuoteQuoteIs there an address for the park, or could someone give me directions to the course? I'd be coming from Kenosha, but even if you started from Gurnee I'm sure I could find it.
Jay, you're from Crystal Lake area, how long/what route do you take?
Coming from Kenosha I would take Illnois 173 west to 31 south thru McHenry. At the intersection of 31 & 176 you'd want to head west thru Crystal Lake. The park is on the west side of Crystal Lake on the left side of 176. It's 45 miles from Kenosha to Crytal Lake. I'm guessing it will take an hour to hour & 15 minutes, maybe shorter since it's early morning travel.
The park is on 176 in Crystal Lake. 176 is a mostly two-lane state route that runs from Lake Bluff through Libertyville and Mundelein and on out to Crystal Lake and the unexplored country beyond. Crystal Lake and 176 are on most maps of Chicago suburbia, like the IDoT maps and Rand McNally maps.
Also see www.mapquest.com and use Crystal Lake as a destination. Never mind. I just did. You'd need three sober navigators to follow those directions!
its a 1/2 mile west of
rte 176 & rte 14
crystal lake, il
I'm getting about twice as many e-mails and phone calls for IOS #2 than I got for #1 -- for whatever that means. There are some people coming from MI who have played other "Brakel" tournaments. Apparently we are better known in MI for running good tournaments than in IL, but then we've been doing it longer there. And by "Brakel" tournaments I am including "brother" Brett.
I have also talked with many players that could not attend Streamwood that will be at Crystal Lake. I'm also passing out flyers this weekend @ Mokena.
QuoteApparently we are better known in MI for running good tournaments than in IL, but then we've been doing it longer there.
See my post on the Sturgeon thread.
I've made a few IOS web updates today. I uploaded Crystal Lake course pictures to the Discontinuum gallery. Click here to see them. (http://discontinuum.org/gallery/Crystal_Lake)
I updated the points page for the IOS series. Click here to see the 2004 IOS points standings. (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/2004points.htm)
I made a few cosmetic changes to some of the pages.
damn! that's awesome jon
Jon, I'll be giving you my prereg tomorrow for Sunday's tourney. Can't make this coming saturday so it looks like I get to play advanced. If you're not there, I'll hand the check to Brett.
QuoteJon, I'll be giving you my prereg tomorrow for Sunday's tourney. Can't make this coming saturday so it looks like I get to play advanced. If you're not there, I'll hand the check to Brett.
If you feel like you are just donating in Advanced, save a buck and play Open! :D
I updated the Crystal Cruise page. (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/crystal_lake.htm) I added a score card and a course map.
I also added a score card to the Streamwood page. (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/streamwood.htm)
I also fixed some linking problems in the Streamwood link bar. I think it's working correctly now.
High of 72 on Saturday. High of 74 on Sunday. Mostly sunny both days. No rain. A disc golf tournament.
Recipe for a great weekend!!!
QuoteHigh of 72 on Saturday. High of 74 on Sunday. Mostly sunny both days. No rain. A disc golf tournament.
Recipe for a great weekend!!!
Could the weather be any better for July? This global warming is awesome!
Trying to get some dye on some Beasts and Orcs and 'Birds. I forget which kind of 'Bird I'm dying, but they taste like chicken!
I'll have some more of those T'Rexes, this time on Beasts. I doubt that I'll get any US Flags done but if i do they'll be on Vikings.
QuoteI doubt that I'll get any US Flags done but if i do they'll be on Vikings.
Viking-Americans?
QuoteQuoteI doubt that I'll get any US Flags done but if i do they'll be on Vikings.
Viking-Americans?
I finally sold my US-1 American Flag. That is the obvious choice for an American flag, but who throws the US-1?
Do you plan on having a definite tee line on each of the tees this weekend?
If my connections come thru, we will have 36 softball size rocks that are painted orange. They will be place to mark the tees. Flags did not work in the limestone when I tried.
I heard about a couple of recreational rated players who were planning on playing advanced on Sunday at IOS2 The Crystal Cruise.
I'm fine with people playing up, but just in case they are confused I thought I'd explain: the fact that the PDGA database lists you as M1O does not mean you have an advanced rating and have to play advanced. If your rating is less than 875 you can play recreational. You might have more fun playing recreational. I have found that there is nothing like being in the hunt for a trophy or prizes to sharpen your game and make the event more fun. If your rating is less than 875 you probably will not be in the hunt in advanced.
Jon, don't read the following:
If you play well in recreational and win a big pile of prizes, there might be a way to use Saturday to pay for Sunday. Don't talk to Jon about it. Talk to the merch man. ;)
I'm playing Sunday because I have other plans for Saturday, if you're indirectly talking to me Bruce.
And if you're not talking to me, then nevermind....
I don't know who I'm talking to because I did not take notes. If I did I would not embarrass anyone by putting numbers next to names.
I'm all for everyone doing what works for them. But I noticed today when checking family members' ratings that for rec and intermediate rated family members the letter codes M1O and F1O pop up next to their names.
QuoteI don't know who I'm talking to because I did not take notes. If I did I would not embarrass anyone by putting numbers next to names.
I'm all for everyone doing what works for them. But I noticed today when checking family members' ratings that for rec and intermediate rated family members the letter codes M1O and F1O pop up next to their names.
The last time that one had to register as something other than AM or Pro, Becky and I both registered as F1O and M1O respectively. Now that ratings decide what division to play, I have no problem playing on Saturday with the girls.
I am really looking forward to this tournament. Looks like we're going to have great weather and I really like this course. Maybe tomorrow will be the first time that Kelsey beats me. Maybe not. But I do know that it's going to be a good weekend. See you at the course!
Wow, you couldn't ask for better playing conditions for mid July. Mid 70's, Sunny, & wind under 10MPH. Looking forward to seeing you guys out there.
what time does it get done on saturday?
Quotewhat time does it get done on saturday?
When the last card is turned in after the second round, the final 9 has been completed, and all the prizes have been awarded./
Quotewhat time does it get done on saturday?
We got done @ Streamwood between 4 & 4:30PM. I'd say it would be similar unless it's a full field.
Quotewhat time does it get done on saturday?
You playing Saturday Crooked? Eddie said you wouldn't have the nuts to show by yourslef.
lol maybe im working tommorrow so ill see
We had another fantastic weekend for disc golf. There were 42 players on Saturday & 38 on Sunday. The weather was great & the skeeters stayed away.
There were no Aces hit on Saturday or Sunday. The rollover Ace Pool will be staring at $170.00 for the Fairfield Fairwell on Saturday, August 28th.
The Pro final 4 holes were really tough & fun to watch. It was good to see Tom S. cash in his first tournament playing Pro.
I almost have enough brass cash for that Chainstar after today ;) .
y - o - u - a - r - e - a - b - a - g - g - i - n - g - b - a - s - t - a - r - d
and congrats my friend, you played very well ;) you deserve it :lol: ;)
I almost had the round of my life. I was -6 after the first 13 holes. I then triple bogeyed #14 to go to -3. I finished the round at -3 and then shot +1 for the afternoon round. It was good for 1st place in Rec which I think is my first win at any PDGA tournament...so maybe it was the round of my life!
Thanks to everyone that came out and helped make this a great event. Thanks to Brett for designing an awesome Final Pro Four!! I finally got to watch the final pro four and it was good fun.
There were 19 club members that attended the tournament this weekend & 18 players who were in on bag tags. Bruce couldn't find his. It was probably with the trophies in Michigan :lol: .
After putting on #9 I saw Damon jumping up & down like a young man :lol: . I didn't know he could jump that high. He had a near ace on #10. I also heard there were a few other near aces.
The money is in the bank, the trophies are in the mail and the disc order is next on my list of things to do. Had fun running Saturday and playing Sunday. Shot decent in the afternoon and got back in the prizes.
I think a lot of amateurs are seeing that our talk about running good events for amateurs was not just hot air b.s., but something we can stand up and deliver. By my quick math we added about $13 to the amateur event value for every amateur who played. Let's see:
$3.00 -- No deduction for PDGA $3 fee
$1.50 -- No deduction for pro rata trophy costs
$5.00 -- extra in the player pack
$3.25 -- per player for CTPs [$194 total CTPS both days!!!]
-------
$12.75
We paid out the top 50% of every division, on the average, as indicated by the PDGA charts. Our PDGA event value numbers should be something like 135% on Saturday and 130% on Sunday.
IOS #3 is just a month away. We will ave overall trophies for series winners which Jon's idiot brother will NOT forget at home as well as the cute event trophies we have been doing. Be there!
Just to add to what Bruce said.
I won $167.00 of brass cash funny money for finishing 1st of 19 advanced players. Had I taken the $15.00 brass cash funny money player pack, I would have won $182.00 on the day.
I however decided to take the $10.00 coupon from my entry fee & paid $33.00 instead of $43.00 to play a B-Tier event.
You can see how much brass cash funny money each player won by checking the Streamwood resutls. Crystal Lake will be updated when Jon recovers from almost being run over by a car :D .
So far they have been 2 really good run tournaments. Two 2nd place finishes and i already have enough for a skillshot.
At streamwood i finished 2nd of 14 i got $61.00 in funny money, plus the $15 from the player pack and a sweet trophy
At crystal lake i finished 2nd of 14 and got $60.00 plus the $15.00 players pack and another sweet trophy.
But both were run really well and i cant wait till the 3rd one at Fairfield.
QuoteI however decided to take the $10.00 coupon from my entry fee & paid $33.00 instead of $43.00 to play a B-Tier event.
How was it you were able to get the $10 but I was told I had to take the $15 in brass? In the long run I'm happy I got the $15 brass cuz I was able to buy a polo for next to nothing...
QuoteQuoteI however decided to take the $10.00 coupon from my entry fee & paid $33.00 instead of $43.00 to play a B-Tier event.
How was it you were able to get the $10 but I was told I had to take the $15 in brass? In the long run I'm happy I got the $15 brass cuz I was able to buy a polo for next to nothing...
It was on the flyer & I asked them for the $10.00 coupon.
Interesting. Will this be available for Fairfield, or were you just grandfathered in?
QuoteI didn't know he could jump that high.
Maybe that's why my knee hurts today.
I lost sight of the disc on that drive, didn't even think it was that good until one of the other guys in my group yelled out and suddenly there it was (almost) in the chains.
The near-miss at Streamwood I didn't see at all, but it was a lot louder. Maybe I'll get one at Fairfield to actually stay in the basket. <_<
that shot on #10 was right after I was distracted by some passing bikers on #9 and griplocked my drive into the bushes and took a 5; same thing happened on a different hole the 2nd round.
Payouts where nice, I took 2nd place losing to John by 4 strokes(+2 for the day)
I could have given him a better run if I hadn't missed 2 3' foot puts for deuces (yes they really where 3'.
Anyways 60 in Brass Cash plus another 24 for the two CTPs I won brought me to 84 in Brass Cash.
Instead of saving for a basket though I decided to try out some new plastic. I picked up:
(2) Champion Viking 171g
(2) Champion Orc 166g
(2) Z-Flash 168g
QuoteInteresting. Will this be available for Fairfield, or were you just grandfathered in?
It will be available for Fairfield just like the 2 prior events. It's on the flyers, you just have to ask for the coupon.
Edited for addition.
Several Am players have used this advertised player pack option at both events.
QuoteInteresting. Will this be available for Fairfield, or were you just grandfathered in?
The PDGA decided to make it so complicated for me to give a discount on the entry fee as an optional player pack that I decided it would be impossible to explain to everyone who was at registration. However, it is on every flyer that is posted in the tri-state area so I didn't want to recind the offer. You may get $10 off your entry by asking for the "No Cash Back" $10 coupon. You MUST ask for the coupon BEFORE you pay your entry fee. Otherwise we have to void your registration card, refund your money and you have to register again. I told our registration volunteers to not explain it to anyone who didn't ask. If they had tried to explain this at registration to everyone, we'd still be doing Saturday registration right now! ;)
If the PDGA doesn't let me run it as the $10 cash back option next year, then I just won't do it. It's not worth the hassle. I am considering coming down $10 in the entry fee for next year. It will make the entry fees and payouts lower, but the payout value to entry fee ratio will still be the same. This year I went with straight PDGA suggested entry fees for B tier events, but from what I'm hearing some people would rather pay a lower entry fee.
Good to know. Thanks guys.,
Quote... from what I'm hearing some people would rather pay a lower entry fee.
[size=8]...trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly... [/size]
QuoteQuote... from what I'm hearing some people would rather pay a lower entry fee.
[size=8]...trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly... [/size]
From a paper work stand point the trophy only option is such a pain! I have no plans at this time to offer a trophy only option.
QuoteQuoteQuote... from what I'm hearing some people would rather pay a lower entry fee.
[size=8]...trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly trophyonly... [/size]
From a paper work stand point the trophy only option is such a pain! I have no plans at this time to offer a trophy only option.
Jon, just a thought, trophy-only becomes much less of a pain on the accounting if you abolish the coupon concept. Why not meditate on trophy-only but go with the PDGA flow on the coupon thing? To everyone else I'd say, Jon really is the TD for these events and I'm not the TD puppetmaster.
Damon, with a trophy-only B-tier, you'd still have to pay for the mando player-pack as part of your entry fee. Your entry fee might drop from $35 to $20 for Advanced Master at a hypothetical future trophy-only B-event, or from $28 to $20 for Intermediate. I have not done the numbers, but I try to price the trophy-only at a place where I don't care what you choose. If Jon were to meditate on this, he'd probably consult me on the pricing/accounting issue.
Is dropping from $35 to $20 or from $28 to $20 and opting out of payouts an attraction? Trophy-onlies are still in for CTPs and ace pool type stuff.
QuoteSo far they have been 2 really good run tournaments. Two 2nd place finishes and i already have enough for a skillshot.
At streamwood i finished 2nd of 14 i got $61.00 in funny money, plus the $15 from the player pack and a sweet trophy
At crystal lake i finished 2nd of 14 and got $60.00 plus the $15.00 players pack and another sweet trophy.
But both were run really well and i cant wait till the 3rd one at Fairfield.
Todd,
I'm glad you had a good time. Fairfield is going to be even better this year!
Thanks for playing in the IOS!!!
Is the rope for OB at the Fairfield Firewall or whatever it is going to apply to just the pros or for everyone who plays Sunday?
QuoteIs the rope for OB at the Fairfield Firewall or whatever it is going to apply to just the pros or for everyone who plays Sunday?
The plan is for all Sunday players. There will be OB on parts of the swamp or perhaps all, an island hole of OB on #5, probably some on #1 and probably a seperation OB line on numbers 18 and 12. Bruce is the ropification master, so maybe he'll share his plan here. We will leave the wooded holes alone, this is just to add a bit of challenge for the upper players on the holes that don't really have much challenge right now.
QuoteQuoteIs the rope for OB at the Fairfield Firewall or whatever it is going to apply to just the pros or for everyone who plays Sunday?
The plan is for all Sunday players. There will be OB on parts of the swamp or perhaps all, an island hole of OB on #5, probably some on #1 and probably a seperation OB line on numbers 18 and 12. Bruce is the ropification master, so maybe he'll share his plan here. We will leave the wooded holes alone, this is just to add a bit of challenge for the upper players on the holes that don't really have much challenge right now.
The ropemaster speaks:
The minimum plan is to make 18 seperate from 12 with a single o.b. line. If you land left of the rope on either hole you play it from where it went out.
Also, the swamp will be o.b. on hole 12 [and 10 if you somehow get there.] We may yellow rope the swamp or may just say "surrounded by swamp grass."
I definately want to make hole 5 an island hole, but not a deuce-or-die-and-retee- until-you-cry island hole. If you do not land on the basket island, you will retee from a nearby reef of a drop zone, from where you should be able to hit the island.
If I have enough rope, we may also make a couple of ponds on other holes.
We will orange flag the rope lines to make it easier to see from a distance.
Saturday players will not have to play rope o.b.
I got my trophy today. Thanks for getting those out right away Bruce! I kind of like this method of trophy delivery. After the feeling of winning wanes, it all comes back again after the mail man delivers the puffy envelope. Cool!!!
Props posted on PFC Forum.
I won first place (by 1 stroke) in the Advanced Masters Division at the Crystal Lake tournament last Saturday and took home 4 Champion Edition discs and 2 DX discs. That is over a $75 prize and player's package for my $33 entry fee. It was a very satisfying win. The course was flat with trees coming into play on most holes. It was an interesting course, but I'm glad it is not my home course. If I'm in the area, I would play a tournament there again. Last month, I finished second in Advanced Masters at the Illinois State Championships in Joliet and took home 3 Champion discs, 3 DX discs, a disc golf towel, t-shirt, 2 minis and some sunscreen for a $100 prize with a $33 entry fee. Northeastern Illinois does it right! These are the top 2 payouts I've ever had. I'll play up there again. Why the great payout? They merely paid out all the entry fee that came in back to the players in that division. That does not always happen in a tournament, but it should.
Posted by: bw23 (Bryan Wagler) - 07-28-2004 5:47 PM
Viva la revolucion!!!
Sounds like the revolutionary fever is spreading in Peoria. :) Anything on the Wisconsin boards?
got my trophy in the mail today. Thanks Bruce! it looks awesome. I think i'll use it for my new marker disc :lol: that would make me look like a cocky bastard if i started using trophies for markers :lol:
Quotegot my trophy in the mail today. Thanks Bruce! it looks awesome. I think i'll use it for my new marker disc :lol: that would make me look like a cocky bastard if i started using trophies for markers :lol:
That is why they are the size they are. They are legal to use as marker discs. For the guy who doesn't want to hang up trophy plaques, he can use it as a marker disc. It's all about options when you play the IOS! ;)
Quotegot my trophy in the mail today. Thanks Bruce! it looks awesome. I think i'll use it for my new marker disc :lol: that would make me look like a cocky bastard if i started using trophies for markers :lol:
I'll take thanks for the prompt delivery. I'll pass your compliments on to Kiralyn. If I ever win one, I'll probably mark with mine.
The dyed mini trophies are turning out mixed. Some look pretty cool and some look like crap. We are going to make 30 for Iowa and then trophy-ize any leftovers.
The 2004 Crystal Cruise is history. The PDGA reports are done except for the Saturday $5 fee non-member report.
Here are the payout results using PDGA reporting method:
Saturday
Amateur: 154%
Pro: 123%
Sunday
Amateur: 135%
Pro: 112%
The Pros were paid out 100% of their entry fee less $2 per player PDGA fee. This is 100% according to PDGA reporting methods. The over 100% comes from trophies (which were not deducted from payout) and a share of the CTPs offered.
Payout for the Amateurs includes a $15 brass cash player pack for those that took that option.
<<edited to change the amateur payout %. My first calculations had underreported it>>
Wow. No wonder we did not make any money! :D
Actually, our cash sales were over-the-top and we set aside some money for the finals. The overall plaques will not come out of the Finals. The Finals should be as fat as all the rest of the events.
That unregistered guest was Bruce. So is this one.
Just figured out that the IOS #3 is the same day as the Rumbletown tournament in Milwaukee. I'm going to be playing at Rumbletown so I'm gonna miss the final IOS. I need to be at Rumbletown to try and collect more points in the Wisconsin Tour. I'm sitting tied for 5th right now. Top point winners earn a spot in the Tour Finale in October.
Sorry guys...
where are the results ?
bear with me its early
Quotewhere are the results ?
bear with me its early
pdga.com
I'll add them to the tournament site soon.
QuoteJust figured out that the IOS #3 is the same day as the Rumbletown tournament in Milwaukee. I'm going to be playing at Rumbletown so I'm gonna miss the final IOS. I need to be at Rumbletown to try and collect more points in the Wisconsin Tour. I'm sitting tied for 5th right now. Top point winners earn a spot in the Tour Finale in October.
Sorry guys...
You can always come out on Sunday & play Advanced ;) .
I just realized that I miscalculated player packs for Sunday. I'll redo the math tonight, but the Am % for Sunday should be a little bit higher.
Quote
You can always come out on Sunday & play Advanced ;) .
I actually thought about it, but I'm not sure I'll be able to compete in the Advanced Division after playing Dretzka in Milwaukee. I guess I still have a "little" time to think about it.
My IOS #3 Innova order came yesterday, or, we discovered it yesterday. I have not opened it yet but I should have Janine's [I know i spelled that wrong, but I don't have the leaderboard cards] 150 Class Valks and Justin's Beasts, Rocs, and Leopards. I will bag these with your name on it and put them in the lay away box.
This is how that works: I will hold your special order lay away items until the end of registration on Sunday at IOS #3. If you don't show up to play on Saturday or Sunday, they become general merch.
If you were asking about UV drivers [someone was but it did not go down as a special order] I have some UV 'Cats and UV Expresses in right now. I can set some aside for you if you let me know. I have a regular demand for those and they won't necessarily last until the end of the month. Same is true for Stingrays and Pro Orcs.
The dyed micro basket mini trophies we are experimenting with look mostly awesome. Like any dye work, some look like fertilizer, but tastes vary. We will be selling them at Worlds. If we don't sell out, we will trophyize the left overs. If we sell out, we will make more, but not so many that look like fertilizer.
found results
duh
OK, I fixed my mistake and corrected the original post.
Saturday
Amateur: 154%
Pro: 123%
Sunday
Amateur: 135%
Pro: 112%
One reason that our payouts are over 100% (PDGA calculations) at all of our tournaments is because we don't take the cost of the trophies out of the payout. Another reason is that we offer a $15 player pack (to meet the minimum $10 player pack B tier standard), but only take $10 out of the payout to cover the player pack. When I do the PDGA report I report the value of the trophies ($10 each) and the value of the player packs ($15 each). This already makes our payout over 100% in PDGA calculations. However, this is the BASE amateur payout for the IOS. On top of this, once we figure out our financials in the morning, we add CTPs for the afternoon round based on how profitable the tournament is. Before we give back even more with the CTPs we make sure we have enough money to cover the costs of everything and the PDGA fees and misc. expenses. So far we have been doing fine financially and have been able to give back around $300 in CTP prizes at the first two events PLUS save the money for overall trophies.
Bottom line is when you play one of the IOS events you can expect that your division will be paid back 100% of entry fee in prizes (less per player PDGA fee for pro divisions only) PLUS trophies PLUS CTP prizes.
Can you tell that we are disc golf tournament players running tournaments for disc golf tournament players?
QuoteJust figured out that the IOS #3 is the same day as the Rumbletown tournament in Milwaukee. I'm going to be playing at Rumbletown so I'm gonna miss the final IOS. I need to be at Rumbletown to try and collect more points in the Wisconsin Tour. I'm sitting tied for 5th right now. Top point winners earn a spot in the Tour Finale in October.
Sorry guys...
I'm slowly leaning toward playing the Fairfield Farewell rather than Rumbletown. I just realized that Rumbletown isn't a sanctioned event. I think I'd rather compete for points/rating in the Farewell.
If anyone else from Kenosha is planning on playing, let me know and perhaps we could carpool...maybe even find a day to go and play a practice round.
Serg,
Still kicking around the idea of playing IO #3 vs. Rumbletown as well. Kyle and I talked about getting down to Fairfield or up to Dretzka either this weekend or next. I've never played either course particularly well, but IO is at least sacntioned, and it would be nice to get a rating one of these days. :)
If we do head to one of the two, I'll let you know.
Steve
two words for you having trouble deciding which T to go to
ACE FUND
Quotetwo words for you having trouble deciding which T to go to
ACE FUND
More words.
PAYOUTS!!!
&
$170.00 ACE POOL.
Plus holes 8 and 17 are under 150 foot holes which are commonly aced.
OK, OK...you've talked me into it...I'm more interested in the ratings than the ace pool...although it would be nice come home with more money than I went with.
so you will donate the ace fund back to the club after you hit it
????????????????
Its not the club's ace fund to begin with, but we're always happy to receive donations... ;)
The current IO Series Points standings are attached.
Sent in the registration form today.
What's the likelihood that Saturday fills? My girlfriend is interested in playing but I can't say for sure that she'll make it. Hopefully I'll know by the end of the weekend.
QuoteSent in the registration form today.
What's the likelihood that Saturday fills? My girlfriend is interested in playing but I can't say for sure that she'll make it. Hopefully I'll know by the end of the weekend.
It's most likely that we will not fill 90 spots on Saturday. That would be cool to get another female at the event. There were 5 women that played at Crystal Lake event on Saturday.
That will be a lot of fun!
Is there an idea of how many Int. Women are currently registered?
I'm talking her into playing...so far things are working well.
yeah! more women... get her to play.. and to come out sundays at 4 pm for women's best shot doubles.. it was me on my own last week (i actually played with my bf.. so... i need female competition...)
i have a coupla questions.. if i am not a pdga member, and i paid the additional $5 at the crystal cruise, do i pay that $5 again at the fairfield farewell? and, on the points ratings, i recieved one point for playing the cc, yet, my boyfriend kvn placed at the cc and didnt recieve any points... whats up with that? he also played streamwood and recieved the points, but not for cc... :) thanks
also, is it worth it to become a pdga member for the last 4 months of the year, or should i just wait til next year.. it seems like in money sense it makes sense to get it.. and for points too... but im thinking of holding out...
Quoteyeah! more women... get her to play.. and to come out sundays at 4 pm for women's best shot doubles.. it was me on my own last week (i actually played with my bf.. so... i need female competition...)
i have a coupla questions.. if i am not a pdga member, and i paid the additional $5 at the crystal cruise, do i pay that $5 again at the fairfield farewell? and, on the points ratings, i recieved one point for playing the cc, yet, my boyfriend kvn placed at the cc and didnt recieve any points... whats up with that? he also played streamwood and recieved the points, but not for cc... :) thanks
also, is it worth it to become a pdga member for the last 4 months of the year, or should i just wait til next year.. it seems like in money sense it makes sense to get it.. and for points too... but im thinking of holding out...
Diana and Kira are planning on playing on Saturday.
If you have not joined, you have to pay the $5 extra.
I think if you join after September 1, 2004, your membership is good for the next year too. If you join at IOS #3, Jon won't get the paperwork in until after September 1. If you join at IOS #3 you will be eligible to play in the United States Women's Disc Golf Championship in Peoria, Illinois. This is a cool tournament for women only and they offer an intermediate division. It is held the last week of September and is a 3-day event.
Brett can you fix KVN's points?
The points for KVN are correct.
Points only count in the divisions in whinch they are erned.
He played Pro2 @ Streamwood & received 1 point for tying for 4th place.
He played Intermediate @ Crystal Lake & received 12 points.
So KVN's points are
Pro2 1 Point (IOS#1)
Intermediate 12 Points (IOS#2)
thanks for clarifying that. i didnt see that he was listed in different divisions. if any help is needed at all for anything on sunday of the ios #3 let me know. i'll have my little one, but we are willing to help.
Just finished this one today. It is Jon's overall trophy disc unless someone steps up:
Nice work, Bruce!
QuoteNice work, Bruce!
I'll be done, done, done with the overall trophy discs tomorrow morning. The Women and Pros are still in process but look like they are turning out good. If there is a disc you want to see, let me know.
Gearing up for weekend at Fairfield... Last Year Event was sold out so advice is to pre reg.
it will be hard to fill this year, though, with ams & pro 2 on sat and advanced and open on sunday... Gonna need 90 both days to fill to capacity. 72 would be a nice number for both days however
I highly doubt we will fill to 90 players each day. But who knows.
Airspuds, u & your brother playing?
I would like to see the trophy disc for the advanced overall.
QuoteI would like to see the trophy disc for the advanced overall.
Justin,
You can visit my office when it's hung on the wall :lol: .
Ok so if I play Round Lake and assuming that I dont play open and play rec do i have to pay like the 35 dollars to get and and an addition like 30 for pdga crap?
(even though its a sure thing i would win it)
QuoteOk so if I play Round Lake and assuming that I dont play open and play rec do i have to pay like the 35 dollars to get and and an addition like 30 for pdga crap?
(even though its a sure thing i would win it)
What division do you play?
If you are not a PDGA member, you must add $5.00 to the entry. All the info is on the website.
Quote
Airspuds, u & your brother playing?
yes (moneys tight but ill be there)
sat
will ask bro (not sure)
bag tag # 2
most excellent
OK, the girlfriend is playing for sure...Intermediate Women.
Unfortunately she just moved to Madison so it would be a little long of a drive for her to come and play on Sundays...but thanks for the information.
QuoteI think if you join after September 1, 2004, your membership is good for the next year too. If you join at IOS #3, Jon won't get the paperwork in until after September 1. If you join at IOS #3 you will be eligible to play in the United States Women's Disc Golf Championship in Peoria, Illinois. This is a cool tournament for women only and they offer an intermediate division. It is held the last week of September and is a 3-day event.
If you sign up at IOS #3, would the player still receive PDGA points/rating?
QuoteQuoteI think if you join after September 1, 2004, your membership is good for the next year too. If you join at IOS #3, Jon won't get the paperwork in until after September 1. If you join at IOS #3 you will be eligible to play in the United States Women's Disc Golf Championship in Peoria, Illinois. This is a cool tournament for women only and they offer an intermediate division. It is held the last week of September and is a 3-day event.
If you sign up at IOS #3, would the player still receive PDGA points/rating?
Yes, if you join the PDGA that day, you become a member instantly & get points & ratings for the event.
This one belongs to Jeanine from Joliet if she shows up and takes it. You get more of the detail if you click on the thumbnail and expand it.
Not sure who is stepping up for this one. Have not looked at the standings. It came out a little darker than I was trying for, but it makes it look a little more masculine:
Bruce, please to refresh my memory (and I'm too lazy to dig up earlier posts):
You're still taking brass cash for the Blast, yes? I'm not sure I can make IOS 3 and I have $10 here...
The Brass cash buys Blast merch.
Say that three times fast.
It is good until December 31, 2004. I will make good faith efforts to redeem it even if we are in different states. If you send me e-mail on December 30 and I don't get it because I'm on a five day bender, when I sober up, I'll honor the stuff.
But don't count on it being good at the 2005 Buffalo Girls Won't You Come Out Tonight, or whatever we do next year.
Don't forget to check where you are in the IOS points standings (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/2004points.htm)so that you know who you have to beat!
Click here for the IOS points web page. (http://home.comcast.net/~illinoisopen/2004points.htm)
Can I ask who did those dyes for the overall champions? I assume Dr Dye? Someone please let me know and also let me know if he's for hire! They look great.
Thanks,
QuoteCan I ask who did those dyes for the overall champions? I assume Dr Dye? Someone please let me know and also let me know if he's for hire! They look great.
Thanks,
Terry, the artists have been informed, are flattered, and are far too busy at this time to take on any more outside projects. Kelsey and I have been doing the disc dying for the Illinois Open Series. Kelsey designs and produces stickers and I throw the dye at the plastic.
Wisconsin's own Dr. Dye is more than capable of doing that kind of work if you are looking for tournament dyed discs. He did similar stuff for the 2003 Illinois Open that was awesome.
We would have farmed the work to Dr. Dye this year except we figured out how to take it in-house and return that value back to the players.
If we have a couple of dyed discs with Wisconsin on them can we expect them to go "home" to Wisconsin?
Quote
I think if you join after September 1, 2004, your membership is good for the next year too.
Bruce (or anyone else):
Can you find out if this is for sure, please? I don't want to sign her up for PDGA and then figure out it's only good for the next couple of months.
Thanks.
Check the PDGA message board. It was just officially posted the other day.
Thanks, Brett. Found it!
Ching Skill Shots are in!! [almost, kind of]
The East Coast office just got the shipment. I have reserved eight. Two blue ones will be shipped direct to Brett for resale to you. If you have been saving up funny money or real for a Skill-Shot, and you want a blue one, you can get it from Brett as soon as he gets them. If you wanted red, yellow or black, those colors are being shipped to me. Again, if you have been saving for one, let me know and I'll bring one or more with me to the Blast.
Fairfield is looking awesome!! They finished the 3 tee pads that needed work and did the rest of the wood chips.
It was actually fun tonight finishing 2nd in best shot. Dan & the Rifleman shot -16. It was fun watching that.
Quote
It was actually fun tonight finishing 2nd in best shot. Dan & the Rifleman shot -16. It was fun watching that.
wow. Any bogies? :o :o
QuoteQuote
It was actually fun tonight finishing 2nd in best shot. Dan & the Rifleman shot -16. It was fun watching that.
wow. Any bogies? :o :o
Just 18. Dan hit the basket from about 60 away for the par.
i m coming up the tollway (i get on in alsip)
whats the best way to the course
bringing bag tag # 2 so you dont want me getting lost :D
looks like we might get some rain Sat
going to put rain gear in car now
how will bag challange work ?
Take the tollway to route 120 (Belvidere) take Belvidere West. 120 eventually intersects with Fairfield Rd, turn right.
After about 3 miles, maybe more, the course will be on the left.
The tag challenge will likely work like how it was run @ Streamwood & CL - everybody has to turn in their tags before the first round starts then after all cards are turned in from the afternoon round lowest overall score gets the lowest tag and so forth.
over all
fine by me
QuoteTake the tollway to route 120 (Belvidere) take Belvidere West. 120 eventually intersects with Fairfield Rd, turn right.
After about 3 miles, maybe more, the course will be on the left.
The tag challenge will likely work like how it was run @ Streamwood & CL - everybody has to turn in their tags before the first round starts then after all cards are turned in from the afternoon round lowest overall score gets the lowest tag and so forth.
Maybe I can finally get rid of #31 (preferrably with a lower #)
last year Il open
spuds (played advanced to get pdga pts)
59 55
will be played am this year
serg
62 57
looking forward to getting up north
what s the deal for lunch ?
best closest place to eat
Quotewhat s the deal for lunch ?
best closest place to eat
notin
Downtown Round Lake, which is a 5-10 minute drive from the course. Lots of your usual fast food type fare.
fast food is fine
i dont remember what i ate last year
because my brother drove
i tend to go get the food (as soon as round is over) and eat at the car
during the break then putt a little
hows the parking this year ?
The parking is fine. They added a new lot.
Today started off looking terrible. I woke up & it looked like rain. Heck, the forecast was calling for rain all day. I got out to the park & expected no more than 20 players today.
The weather ended up holding off. 61 players showed & it did not start raining until the awards ceremony. The Ace Pool started off @ $170.00 & ended up being $338.00. Tom M. hit an Ace on #8 & took the cash. I guess he got kicked off a tree into the basket.
There were a ton of club members & bag tag holders. I will post the bag tag challenge from today later.
There was some sort of CTP, Longest Drive, & Longest Putt contest on every hole for the 2nd round. Over $300.00 worth of brass cash funny money was awarded for these.
Overall Series Champions
Intermediate-> Eric Doty
Recreational-> Jon Brakel
Pro2-> Brain Karnov
Intermediate Women-> Diana Brakel
Junior-> Adrian Gutierrez Jr.
Advanced Masters-> Adrian Gutierrez Sr.
2 Aces Sunday.
Nate B. #2
Brett C. #9
Mike Swieger 3'd #18
Sunday Overall Series Champions.
Open-> Kris Hutter
Pro Master-> Roy Carey
Pro Women-> Barrett White
Advanced-> Justin Schandelmeir
Advanced Women-> Jeannine Rice
(brett I edited this to change '2 Aces Saturday' to '2 Aces Sunday'
I'm very happy with how the IO Series went this summer.
All 3 parks that we ran tournaments have improved. The parks have spent time improving their parks for the events. They would not if there was no event. Here is an attendance breakdown. Streamwood-> 78, Crystal Lake-> 80, & Round Lake->97. We brought PDGA Events to an area that has not had PDGA Events. It seemed there were several players from each division that wanted a chance to compete for an overall series champion and attended all 3 events. Even though only the winner won a trophy disc, this series was designed for fun & bragging rights. It did not cost the players .01 cent to have points tracked or pay for prizes. I'm not sure the exact # but there was a ton of brass cash CTP's given out over the 6 days. Jon, can we get an exact #? Payouts were well over 100% for all divisions. During all 3 tournaments we were able to talk to casuals about disc golf, the pdga, the club, & tournaments. There were many new faces. DISContinuum was publicized & sold merch, bag tags, & several memberships. We also sold casuals fair priced discs rather than getting ripped off at local stores.
Please help us. I always like to hear constructive criticism. We are planning on running the series again next year, possibly adding an event or two. What did you like or dislike. What would you like to see changed? Suggestions.
had a great time sat
i knew the weather was going to hold up ( for play)
course played well
tees were in great shape
thanks to all who made it happen
What were yesterday's results? Not looking for the full breakdown cuz I know thats coming in the next week or so, more just interested in who took first in what divisions.
Judging by the bag tag results I'd guess Brett took first in advanced...
Only 30-odd players yesterday?
Yeah, Mirth-it was a beautiful day but the players didn't show up as expected. The overall weekend total was 97 tho. We couldn't have done that in 1 day so the format worked. There is talk of another IOS next year B) We got home late last night so details should be posted tonight, I think.
Congratulations and many thanks to the Brakel Bros. and Brett for running an awesome and fun tourney at Round Lake (I wasn't able to attend any of the other IOS events). Definitely one of the top tourneys I've played in this year. I threw -3 for the day...that was with 7 bogeys and 1 double bogey. Take that double away and a couple of the bogeys and Serg ends up #1 8) Either way I had a fun time. Played with some fun guys from Joliet both rounds. Seen alot of different styles of play.
I really enjoyed the CTP opportunities during the second round...even if I didn't get any of them. To be honest, there were so many opportunities I kind of stopped paying attention to them (I mean this in a good way) :D
Prizes, payouts, merchandise: Awesome! I've been pusing the Blast to alot of guys around Parkside; hopefully they'll follow through and show up.
Carla had a great time playing with the women in her groups. She learned alot from them. She's only been playing since about May so this has definitely tipped her interest in continuing to practice and become better. Fairfield was a humbling experience for her, but I think "bogey" golf for a beginner is a pretty good score on this course.
I look forward to seeing everyone again at the Blast.
Thanks again.
QuoteWhat were yesterday's results? Not looking for the full breakdown cuz I know thats coming in the next week or so, more just interested in who took first in what divisions.
Judging by the bag tag results I'd guess Brett took first in advanced...
Only 30-odd players yesterday?
36 Players Yestarday
I think these are the correct breakdowns.
10 Open
3 Pro Master
0 Pro Women
21 Advanced
2 Advanced Women
Winners
Open-> Kris Hutter
Pro Master-> Rob Schoenhoft
Advanced-> Brett Comincioli
Pro Women-> -----------------
Advanced Women-> Jeannine Rice
I guess you could afford the chainstar and then some! Way to go dude. Got it assembled yet? I wanna throw some putts tonight.... ;)
QuoteI guess you could afford the chainstar and then some! Way to go dude. Got it assembled yet? I wanna throw some putts tonight.... ;)
I'll have it assembled by the time you get there :D .
Could you change my last name i have seen it spelled wrong about 10 times and tried to get it corrected, guess thats what i get for having a long name. correct spelling --- Schandelmeier
QuoteCould you change my last name i have seen it spelled wrong about 10 times and tried to get it corrected, guess thats what i get for having a long name. correct spelling --- Schandelmeier
Sorry about that. I think it's all those "extra" letters at the end...you know after about 3 syllables our brains just turn off or something. I'll try to get it fixed on everything that we post or turn in to the PDGA.
excellent
Quoteexcellent
Even out of context, love to see that word on this thread! :lol:
A few loose ends:
Innova is currently out of stock on Flex Fit hats. Whenever they are in stock, I'll get some in the popular colors but I cannot make those Chinese textile workers sew faster, not can I make the port inspectors in Long Beach inspect faster.
The Skill Shots are in. Brett has two blue ones arriving today or tomorrow. I got six here today in blue, black, red and yellow. Brett's are available for 120 brass or cash or any combination, first come, first served. So are mine. If you e-mail me or post here, I'll put one on lay away until the Blast for you. I'll write your name on the box.
The brass will expire on January 1, 2005. Spend it at the Blast. If you can't get to the Blast or to any of my fall Michigan tournaments we can negotiate a lay away deal in 2004 and close in 2005. It is looking like I'll need to order more for 2005, and when I have to pay for more, the old will expire.
Bruce - About the polos... I'd like a Discraft one in black or some dark color, and do you have or can you get any Innova ones?
QuoteBruce - About the polos... I'd like a Discraft one in black or some dark color, and do you have or can you get any Innova ones?
I would be interested in an Innova Polo as well.
Brett, did you get the Skillshots? Have you made arrangements with any future Skillshot owners?
Any answer on the Innova polos?
Damn! I really want one of those flex fit Innova hats. preferable red.
I posted results on the PDGA results page.
Attached are the results of the 2004 Illinois Open Series Overall Point Totals
2004 IOS Champions
Pro2-> Brian Karnov
Adv Master-> Adrian Gutierrez Sr.
Int Women-> Diana Brakel
Intermediate-> Eric Doty
Recreational-> Jon Brakel
Junior-> Adrian Gutierrez Jr.
Open-> Kris Hutter
Pro Master-> Roy Carey
Pro Women-> Barrett White
Advanced-> Justin Schandelmeire
Adv Women-> Jeannine Rice
QuoteI posted results on the PDGA results page.
Apparently no one is paying attention anymore. I forgot to list the payout for Sunday in the on line thingy.
IOS #3 - Fairfield Farewell - Sunday results. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4557)
I was payng attention. Just hope that 1037 rated round stays the same.
I'm just posting an avatar. Nothing to see here.
Quote
It should go down a little because they can't use me as a generator for that round.
howcum?
QuoteQuote
It should go down a little because they can't use me as a generator for that round.
howcum?
Because when someone plays below their rating it raises everyone else's rating (with ratings, it's all relative) unless you play too far below your rating and then they take you out as a 'gator for that event.
QuoteQuoteQuote
It should go down a little because they can't use me as a generator for that round.
howcum?
Because when someone plays below their rating it raises everyone else's rating (with ratings, it's all relative) unless you play too far below your rating and then they take you out as a 'gator for that event.
right, I thought I read that someplace but can't remember where.
I'm guessing they won't use me for that 1st round either; it'd be *really* nice if they'd throw out my 'performance' for my own rating's purpose.... <_<
Then my ratings from that event shouldn't be used either. I've already blocked out the memory of that event, so I was surprised to see my name in the list of results.