Mike Cozzens is not having a Pro weekend for Northwoods this year. Only Am weekend will be played due to not making enough money with the Pro weekend. Bummer as I was planning on playing the Pro weekend this year...guess I'll have to play Am weekend.
eau claire
1st stop
lets hope i can make it
Quoteguess I'll have to play Am weekend.
bagger
There's one I have not heard before...
Got a big tournament to go to in a few weeks, something like 60 adv. guys. Hope I hear it there...
eau claire
tower ridge
4/17 and 4/18
finally got the ok to play
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won 5 bucks money
took that and 5 cash to get cool towel
was like 18 th out of 40 ????
first round struggles included 6 5 4 4 and 6 dueces
55 same as am women worse than junior
long tees second round 62 which i felt really good about for some odd reason
i was fist pumping 4 saves hit a nice par (save) on 18 in front of gallery
got ctp after getting a 6 then got 5
nice disc and hat works for me big time
just proves stay with it good things happen
my buddy played and had a great time he got to see barry s drive on long 1
he placed last
he thought there should be a prize for that
got a disc and 2 minis a sticker players package
disc had cool stamp
thought there were about 60 on sat
sun was sold out
lots of fun arm/elbow hurts next sunday oly is questionable going to rest arm
and see whats up
ill post pics soon
http://www.dotphoto.com/GuestViewImage.asp...27&IID=44886161 (http://www.dotphoto.com/GuestViewImage.asp?AID=1470227&IID=44886161)
this is cool
Quotethis is cool
And huge.
How about the original?
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Played at Baraboo this past weekend. Entire tourny was done by 3:00. There were only 25 Intermediate Men, 3 Intermediate Women and maybe 10 Juniors.
I had a good time (tied for 4th, just three strokes out of first) and it was a beautiful day. The girlfriend took second...this is a good way of getting her hooked to the game!
One note regarding player's packs: Like I said earlier, I could care less if there is a package or not...but I heard some fairly disgruntled people this past weekend. Our player's pack was a WI Tour mini disc, nothing else. I got a cool orange color one, don't have an orange mini.
Anyone planning on playing the Pickle Open on Saturday?
mitch wallace is.
QuotePlayed at Baraboo this past weekend. Entire tourny was done by 3:00. There were only 25 Intermediate Men, 3 Intermediate Women and maybe 10 Juniors.
I had a good time (tied for 4th, just three strokes out of first) and it was a beautiful day. The girlfriend took second...this is a good way of getting her hooked to the game!
One note regarding player's packs: Like I said earlier, I could care less if there is a package or not...but I heard some fairly disgruntled people this past weekend. Our player's pack was a WI Tour mini disc, nothing else. I got a cool orange color one, don't have an orange mini.
Anyone planning on playing the Pickle Open on Saturday?
Nice shooting. You are not long for Intermediate if you keep turning in 930 and 940 rated rounds.
Baraboo was a C-tier. There is no player pack requirement for a C-tier. The Td can give you as much or as little as he wants for a C-tier player pack.
I will be playing the Pickle Sunday.
As far as the player package goes. I think that more than a couple of stops on the Wis Tour gave out a mini last year. Last year at the Pickle you got a mini if you were lucky enough to catch one as they threw the few they had into the crowd.
QuoteNice shooting. You are not long for Intermediate if you keep turning in 930 and 940 rated rounds.
Baraboo was a C-tier. There is no player pack requirement for a C-tier. The Td can give you as much or as little as he wants for a C-tier player pack.
Thanks for the information, Bruce.
My goal is to move that rating up and play advanced next year...maybe even by the end of this year. Alot of work to do, but I'm feeling pretty confident lately. Playing as bad as I did in the Prairie Open, on my home course, really straigtened me out a little.
I had the "coveted" black disc in my reach...and then pulled my arms back into my body...I lost a first place playoff on the first hole :angry:
I threw -14 with 2 bogeys on the day (both bogeys in the second round). The guy I tied with deuced hole 18 to tie. He started the playoff hole with a shot that landed about 15 feet from the basket. I went for all the marbles and threw probable less than a foot for an ace, but down a fairly large bluff (for those that know Vollrath you know Hole #1). Oh well, maybe next time.
Overall it was a pretty fun tourny. First time I ever played Vollrath so I was pretty happy. There were 50 Intermediate Ams, so I picked up some good points in the Wisconsin Tour standings.
QuoteDan Michler
PDGA #17103
In the bag -- 14 Rocs, 12 Wizards
oh wait, thats diron's bag.
:lol: Ahahahahahah how long has that been there :lol:
Good going Serg.
I managed to avoid a crash-and-burn at Vollrath today. B) I felt frustrated with a -3 the 1st round, missed several putts but consoled myself with the fact that except for a gacked upshot on 18 (my next-to-last hole) I was bogey-free, even on the longer extra holes.
It was pretty windy there today but I was still rather surprised that I made the top card for the 2nd round. I kept it together with a -6 with no bogeys (although I still missed 3 or 4 makeable putts) and wound up tied for third, and ignored the voices screaming in my head to (barely) deuce the 1st playoff hole for a trophy - actually a cool framed photo of the 'lake monster' hole.
Dennis Miller matched my 2nd round score but lost the playoff for first. I think there were 10 or 11 adv masters there.
Aaron Wield won open, to no one's surprise - I think he's won every year Barry wasn't there and at least one year when he was; I don't know his score but it was well over -20 for the day, I think he was -14 the 1st round alone (20 holes).
Vollrath is a very cool course; it's kind of like trying to hit a change-up in baseball; you know the basket is 'right there', but it's not always all that easy to get there, especially when the wind is swirling around.
Anyhow, it was a relief to finally put two decent rounds together. :P
Yay!!! Well played Damon :)
QuoteI had the "coveted" black disc in my reach...and then pulled my arms back into my body...I lost a first place playoff on the first hole :angry:
I threw -14 with 2 bogeys on the day (both bogeys in the second round). The guy I tied with deuced hole 18 to tie. He started the playoff hole with a shot that landed about 15 feet from the basket. I went for all the marbles and threw probable less than a foot for an ace, but down a fairly large bluff (for those that know Vollrath you know Hole #1). Oh well, maybe next time.
Overall it was a pretty fun tourny. First time I ever played Vollrath so I was pretty happy. There were 50 Intermediate Ams, so I picked up some good points in the Wisconsin Tour standings.
Great job Serg! I wandered around a little during the 1st round Saturday but didn't see you. Anyone else go up on Saturday?
Congrats, Damon.
I was talking to Aaron Wield yesterday and he said he's been shooting -14 lately. Weather must not have been a factor for him today.
Speaking of the "monster lake hole," I sacrificed my favorite driver there yesterday. Not sure if it actually went into the water, but I never found it. First round I deuced the hole putting it about 2 feet from basket, second round straight right.
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Speaking of the "monster lake hole," I sacrificed my favorite driver there yesterday...
I've put at least 3 in there over the years.
A final pleasant surprise yesterday was getting a disc *back* from there. I'd left a soft Rhyno on the ground or in a basket Fri nite and while it hadn't shown up on Saturday, there it was on a shelf in the Shack after the tournament yesterday. (Good thing, too, since I didn't want to pay $14 for another <_< ) Coulda used it for some of those putts though - it was the only one I'd brought with me.
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Congradutaitons Damon.
That course plays a lot harder than it looks to me. I seemed to be keying in on trees yesterday. Votrath gave me fits, -3 for 7th place. I may have actually played better than last year though. I'll have to check.
I believe Paul Kuffel took 4th in Pro Masters.
Becky and I were all set to go to the Manitowalk in the Park (http://discoverwisc.com/manitowoc/manitowalk.html) until I looked at the website. They must be taking notes from Gary. Saturday is unsanctioned. I don't really want to go to the fund raiser for the real tournament and not get rated or points for that matter if I should ever care about points.
Oh well, sounded good for a few minutes on the drive home tonight. This is why I started running tournaments. So that I can play in PDGA tournaments in my division.
Played Manitowalk in the Park last and I'm playing again this year. I thought it was a great tournament. Well run with good payouts and players package.
Too bad you won't be there Jon. I guess you won't be playing many tournaments if you are only playing those that are run like yours.
It's not 'note taking' from anyone. It's simply a matter of MANY TD's choosing NOT to sanction events because of the ADDED headaches, paperwork, and confusion. If you speak with ANYONE that has attended the MITP events in the past 3 years you will hear that it is one of Wisconsin's finest events.
It is in fact a tournament that was RECOMMENDED by the PDGA to move it's status UP to an A-tier because of the outragious sponsorship, player's packs, and payouts they have had. So, please don't speak of the event in a negative light simply because it's not sanctioned. In fact, MOST of the WI tour is getting away from sanctioning Am days because of the extra work.
I have run a B tier for the past five years now. I can certainly understand BOTH sides of the story. I will say that if you go through the pdga, you have to do more recording, paperwork, reporting, and paying to them. Heck, almost every event in the state using the PDGA payout scales and pays out well, they simply don't pay for the sanctioning.
Thanks for running today's event. I had a great time on a pretty good course!
QuoteIt's not 'note taking' from anyone. It's simply a matter of MANY TD's choosing NOT to sanction events because of the ADDED headaches, paperwork, and confusion. If you speak with ANYONE that has attended the MITP events in the past 3 years you will hear that it is one of Wisconsin's finest events.
It is in fact a tournament that was RECOMMENDED by the PDGA to move it's status UP to an A-tier because of the outragious sponsorship, player's packs, and payouts they have had. So, please don't speak of the event in a negative light simply because it's not sanctioned. In fact, MOST of the WI tour is getting away from sanctioning Am days because of the extra work.
I have run a B tier for the past five years now. I can certainly understand BOTH sides of the story. I will say that if you go through the pdga, you have to do more recording, paperwork, reporting, and paying to them. Heck, almost every event in the state using the PDGA payout scales and pays out well, they simply don't pay for the sanctioning.
Thanks for running today's event. I had a great time on a pretty good course!
It was not meant to be a slam. I was told by Damon that they treat the players well at MITP and that it is well run. But he also thought it was sanctioned both days. I was dissapointed to find that it was not because it is such a great course and I think it would have been fun. I assume all tournaments are run as a fund raiser for something. We had less than a full turn out at the Streamwood Starter but still managed to raise about $115 for the Jr. Girls Iowa Worlds trip (most of that money came from cash sales--and I know some unsponsored pros bought stuff and we really appreciated that). I think you can have decent payouts and raise money at the same time. I hear that some tournaments in WI have actually sponsorship. I haven't seen too much of that here in IL and in the one WI tournament that I've played in the last few years.
I understand how much work is involved in doing the PDGA paperwork for the Am day, since that's what I have before me to do this week. I think it is totally cool if you don't want to sanction it, I am just much more likely to not travel that far to play something unsanctioned. As I type this though I realize that Becky and I are planning on doing something disc golf related that weekend. Maybe we'll reconsider.
QuotePlayed Manitowalk in the Park last and I'm playing again this year. I thought it was a great tournament. Well run with good payouts and players package.
Too bad you won't be there Jon. I guess you won't be playing many tournaments if you are only playing those that are run like yours.
Well, I'll play at least 4 tournaments like mine this year. I would have played Kensington also but it was 45 degrees and raining.
But my criteria isn't to play a tournament just like mine. I like to play PDGA tournaments in my division. I hope that if I ever get my skills up to an Advanced level I will remember this and continue to run tournaments for people like me.
Anyone else playing the MadCity Open Am day this weekend?
QuoteI was told by Damon that they treat the players well at MITP and that it is well run. But he also thought it was sanctioned both days.
...wow. I'm not hallucinating on this, I know that at least until maybe last Wednesday the MITP site clearly stated it was sanctioned both days; now it doesn't, perhaps for the reasons Terry alluded to.
But everything else I mentioned to Jon holds true. It's a beautiful course and good people run the show. I'd thought about playing Sat myself (when it was sanctioned) and then Sun in Mokena, but that wouldn't be possible or particularly sane given my itinerary earlier that week. So I decided I'd do Manitowoc on Sunday anyhow, but I think it's unfortunate that Sat is no longer a sanctioned event.
QuoteAnyone else playing the MadCity Open Am day this weekend?
I am. :rolleyes:
I played Hiestand yesterday. Brad Went was out working on the course getting it ready for Saturday. It's looking good and with all of the rain we have had it is still dry. I guess that's one of the advantages to putting a course on a hill.
So, did the MITP TD wave the PDGA zone of exclusion, or did the Lumber Cup slip under the radar? Mapquest shows them 193 miles apart (yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands, don't I?), although I suppose if the course in Manitowoc were on the North side of town and the Mokena course is on the South side of town, maybe they might make it past the ZoE.
QuoteI assume all tournaments are run as a fund raiser for something. We had less than a full turn out at the Streamwood Starter but still managed to raise about $115 for the Jr. Girls Iowa Worlds trip (most of that money came from cash sales--and I know some unsponsored pros bought stuff and we really appreciated that).
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I understand how much work is involved in doing the PDGA paperwork for the Am day, since that's what I have before me to do this week. I think it is totally cool if you don't want to sanction it, I am just much more likely to not travel that far to play something unsanctioned. As I type this though I realize that Becky and I are planning on doing something disc golf related that weekend. Maybe we'll reconsider.
Responding to some of Jon's stuff at the risk of thread drift...
I thought it was way beyond cool that Barratt spent nearly all her prize money on plastic. For those who don't know, Kelsey played Pro Women on Sunday, effectively giving Barratt a 200% payout. Barratt spent 3/4ths of that at the tournament.
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Get that paperwork done asap and you'll make the next ratings update. The cut-off date is this weekend I believe.
I think if you are not going to sanction the event then you should just pay everyone cash and let them buy frisbees if they want to buy frisbees. Forcing ams to buy frisbees, and not giving them their ratings and points is kind of lame. It does not cost the TD anything extra to sanction both days as opposed to pro and advanced only.
Isn't there a cash-payout-for-all-divisions the same weekend as the Manitowalk somewhere in northern Illinois? Someone was asking me about it but I did not have the details. I'm playing the Brent Hambrick so probably whoever was telling me about it, I just tuned them out.
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QuoteSo, did the MITP TD wave the PDGA zone of exclusion, or did the Lumber Cup slip under the radar? Mapquest shows them 193 miles apart (yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands, don't I?), although I suppose if the course in Manitowoc were on the North side of town and the Mokena course is on the South side of town, maybe they might make it past the ZoE.
Well, Mokena's actually on *Saturday*, even for the sanctioned part (the 'Am' portion is the previous Sat), which means that the 'logic' in my earlier post was completely reversed, and may explain why the MITP on Sat is no longer sanctioned.
QuoteAnyone else playing the MadCity Open Am day this weekend?
Yeah, I'll probably play it. Should be fun. :P
QuoteQuoteSo, did the MITP TD wave the PDGA zone of exclusion, or did the Lumber Cup slip under the radar? Mapquest shows them 193 miles apart (yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands, don't I?), although I suppose if the course in Manitowoc were on the North side of town and the Mokena course is on the South side of town, maybe they might make it past the ZoE.
Well, Mokena's actually on *Saturday*, even for the sanctioned part (the 'Am' portion is the previous Sat), which means that the 'logic' in my earlier post was completely reversed, and may explain why the MITP on Sat is no longer sanctioned.
That would not explain why MITP is not sanctioned. This year C tiers have no zone of exclusivity. The B-tier would get the protection. But it does explain why there isn't a conflict.
QuoteQuoteQuoteSo, did the MITP TD wave the PDGA zone of exclusion, or did the Lumber Cup slip under the radar? Mapquest shows them 193 miles apart (yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands, don't I?), although I suppose if the course in Manitowoc were on the North side of town and the Mokena course is on the South side of town, maybe they might make it past the ZoE.
Well, Mokena's actually on *Saturday*, even for the sanctioned part (the 'Am' portion is the previous Sat), which means that the 'logic' in my earlier post was completely reversed, and may explain why the MITP on Sat is no longer sanctioned.
That would not explain why MITP is not sanctioned. This year C tiers have no zone of exclusivity. The B-tier would get the protection. But it does explain why there isn't a conflict.
The PDGA has been very weak about enforcing exclusion zones this year, especially with interstate conflicts. And I guess now when I say, "the PDGA," I mean me? Could be a staffing resources issue. Could be something else. I'll try to find out when I get a chance but it might be a few weeks.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, did the MITP TD wave the PDGA zone of exclusion, or did the Lumber Cup slip under the radar? Mapquest shows them 193 miles apart (yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands, don't I?), although I suppose if the course in Manitowoc were on the North side of town and the Mokena course is on the South side of town, maybe they might make it past the ZoE.
Well, Mokena's actually on *Saturday*, even for the sanctioned part (the 'Am' portion is the previous Sat), which means that the 'logic' in my earlier post was completely reversed, and may explain why the MITP on Sat is no longer sanctioned.
That would not explain why MITP is not sanctioned. This year C tiers have no zone of exclusivity. The B-tier would get the protection. But it does explain why there isn't a conflict.
The PDGA has been very weak about enforcing exclusion zones this year, especially with interstate conflicts. And I guess now when I say, "the PDGA," I mean me? Could be a staffing resources issue. Could be something else. I'll try to find out when I get a chance but it might be a few weeks.
In this case there is no conflict to investigate.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, did the MITP TD wave the PDGA zone of exclusion, or did the Lumber Cup slip under the radar? Mapquest shows them 193 miles apart (yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands, don't I?), although I suppose if the course in Manitowoc were on the North side of town and the Mokena course is on the South side of town, maybe they might make it past the ZoE.
Well, Mokena's actually on *Saturday*, even for the sanctioned part (the 'Am' portion is the previous Sat), which means that the 'logic' in my earlier post was completely reversed, and may explain why the MITP on Sat is no longer sanctioned.
That would not explain why MITP is not sanctioned. This year C tiers have no zone of exclusivity. The B-tier would get the protection. But it does explain why there isn't a conflict.
The PDGA has been very weak about enforcing exclusion zones this year, especially with interstate conflicts. And I guess now when I say, "the PDGA," I mean me? Could be a staffing resources issue. Could be something else. I'll try to find out when I get a chance but it might be a few weeks.
In this case there is no conflict to investigate.
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