Parkside Prairie Open

[airspuds]

hey even i let the wi boys call me fib
 

[SERG]

I don't like to make comments about the "bickering" that takes place on the board...however I do enjoy reading them....but I do need to reply to Bruce's comment:

I'm an employee of the Univeristy of Wisconsin-Parkside. Unfortunately, a state-owned institution runs things a little differently. There are "particulars" that need to be taken care of when an event is held on the university's property, hence some of the money is taken out to pay for this. Due to other statutes, things such as "ace pools" and "raffles" cannot take place - they're considered gambling.

If I do recall, even though payouts weren't the best, the Prairie Open was one of the highest attended AM events last year. I don't know the exact number but I know it was in the top 15. Something was done right.

Either way, I plan on playing in the IOS and Parkside. I'll support disc golf however I can. I'm not playing for a player's package or payout; I play for the friendly competition, the love of the outdoors and to help promote the game.

Now, if I sound like a $hithead, I'm sorry....just lost about $30 on PartyPoker.    

[Jon Brakel]

I don't like to make comments about the "bickering" that takes place on the board...however I do enjoy reading them....but I do need to reply to Bruce's comment:

I'm an employee of the Univeristy of Wisconsin-Parkside. Unfortunately, a state-owned institution runs things a little differently. There are "particulars" that need to be taken care of when an event is held on the university's property, hence some of the money is taken out to pay for this. Due to other statutes, things such as "ace pools" and "raffles" cannot take place - they're considered gambling.

If I do recall, even though payouts weren't the best, the Prairie Open was one of the highest attended AM events last year. I don't know the exact number but I know it was in the top 15. Something was done right.

Either way, I plan on playing in the IOS and Parkside. I'll support disc golf however I can. I'm not playing for a player's package or payout; I play for the friendly competition, the love of the outdoors and to help promote the game.

Now, if I sound like a $hithead, I'm sorry....just lost about $30 on PartyPoker.  

Serge,

I thought that was a reasonable response. I know I like to know where my money is going when I play a tournament. One of the reasons I have started to help run tournaments is because hardly any TDs will tell players straight up where the money goes. But if the money isn't going to the division where it is being collected, I think the tournament flyer should say up front where it is going. If there are per user use fees, just list them as $2 per player is going to park or university or whatever. If they are charging a flat fee, then somewhere on the flyer it should say $200 cash will be taken out of the entry fees up front to cover the facility fee. That is only my opinion, but I think it is reasonable for the customer to know what they are getting for their money before they buy.

[Guest]

Jon,

I agree. I'm not on the tournament committee but I know people who are. I'll mention to them to make sure, in the future, that information is given about where $$ is going.

[SERG]

Jon,

I agree. I'm not on the tournament committee but I know people who are. I'll mention to them to make sure, in the future, that information is given about where $$ is going.

Sorry, forgot to login...again!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Bruce, your an Ass...

We can't all be tall and good looking.  

I care about fairness for amateur players.  Because I run tournaments that have series fees and course use fees, and because I buy plastic from the manufacturers, I understand the accounting and math involved.  

It is not hard to cover a PDGA fee and a series fee out of the built in profit on every amateur if the TD is buying plastic at the 200 piece rate.  It does get harder if there are multiple series fees and the venue owner is taking a rake.  It gets impossible if the TD is taking a loss on the pro divisions.  

It may be that the event last year was not a rip-off event, but as Serg intimates, it was held in a rip-off venue.  It may also be that the TD did not know how to do the math in advance of the event and did not know that his fixed costs per player were larger than his average profit per player.  However, in advance of that event we heard a lot about cash sponsorship, which goes a long way in covering fixed costs.  

I think my questions are valid even if my tone pushes your buttons.  

[Jon Brakel]

Depending on what the fee is, the venue might be worth it. Prairie View is a nice venue. Flip City is nice also and we are paying a per user fee for it. Flip City is worth the fee in my opinion.

[shawn]

FYI

Shawn,

Just got the word that camping is a go for the tournament.  The only conditions
are that Ed must camp both nights and be the camp director & no campers under
18 years of age.  I asked him about families with children and he said if it
comes up he would try to get that okayed as well.

Dennis





I'm just the middle man...  and course fixer upper guy.  

[SERG]

Open information is now available online.

CLICK HERE to view current field and download registration forms.

Register before May 21st and receive a free tournament T-shirt.

[Myk]

Just curious if you guys would be interested in having someone from TWC tape this event and put it on local access?  I don't know for sure if I can pull all the right strings to get this accomplished, but if the Parkside club is interested, I'll persue it further.

[SERG]

Just curious if you guys would be interested in having someone from TWC tape this event and put it on local access?  I don't know for sure if I can pull all the right strings to get this accomplished, but if the Parkside club is interested, I'll persue it further.

"TWC" The Weather Channel or Time Warner Cable?  

That would be pretty cool. Maybe, anything, they follow the lead groups, especially on Saturday.

[damonshort]

both days filled last year, Damon..   Thing is we only had 1/3 pre-reg and most registered the day of the event.

What's the actual start time on Sunday for registration and tee-off? I don't see it on the site anywhere.    

[D]

I'm upset to have missed pre-registration.

I really don't want to miss this tournament- so I have to get there early and register.. I was unable to find it on the site as well.

[pat]

Here you go Damon.


2004 PRAIRIE OPEN
Current Field | Registration Form | Limited Availablity Discs
Driving Directions/Parking Info | Area Hotel & Restaurants
On-Campus Camping Information | Tournament Hole Lengths

 

C Tier Wisconsin Disc Golf Tour Event



Daily Schedule
8:00-9:30am Registration
9:30am Player's Meeting
10:00am Tee-Off Round One
12:30-1:30pm Lunch
2:00pm Hole Assignments
2:30pm Round 2 Begins
6:00pm Awards
 

[damonshort]

Here you go Damon.


2004 PRAIRIE OPEN
Current Field | Registration Form | Limited Availablity Discs
Driving Directions/Parking Info | Area Hotel & Restaurants
On-Campus Camping Information | Tournament Hole Lengths

 

C Tier Wisconsin Disc Golf Tour Event



Daily Schedule
8:00-9:30am Registration
9:30am Player's Meeting
10:00am Tee-Off Round One
12:30-1:30pm Lunch
2:00pm Hole Assignments
2:30pm Round 2 Begins
6:00pm Awards

duh...I was looking right at it.

http://oldweb.uwp.edu/admin/union/discgolf/tournys.html

thanks Pat!

I think I might be able to make it after all, as it turns out I should get back in town from a gig around 1 am; if the weather's good and I can get to Parkside before it's full I'll take my chances, otherwise I guess I'll just drive onto Dretzka  

I'm inclined to play Int instead of Adv Masters though; it's a lot cheaper and I'm really only playing for rating pts anyhow.

[SERG]

Anyone interested in putting together some practice rounds this week at Parkside? I'm pretty much available any day this week except Monday, don't know when I"ll be back in town. I usually get out of work around 4:30 and am back to the course by 5:00.

If anyone is interested in meeting up, or plan on going out there in the evening, please post or email me.

[Myk]

So far I'm planning on playing after work every day if I can manage it.  I get done about 6 and can usually make it to the course by 6:30 or so depending on wait times at McDonald's/Burger King.

[SERG]

Myk:

I'll plan on being out there shortly after 6. If you want, give me a call when you're on your way. Do you still have my number? PM if you don't.

Diron:

I'll email the TD and have him put you down, if you like. Hopefully that will reserve your spot. I'll let you know what he says.
(Shawn: Do you think this would work?)

[Myk]

Yeah, I still got your number, and I'll give you a buzz.  Today I'm lucky enough to get out of work at 1, so if someone wants to go then, I'd be willing to make my way out.

[ochreogre]

Question for any TDs out there, or just for someone who may know from experience.  I signed up for a PDGA membership some weeks ago.  Still haven't received a packet or anything, but I have my number from looking for myself on the PDGA site (#24886).  Am I going to have to pay the extra fee Saturday since I don't have my membership info stuff yet?  

Any info is appreciated, thanks!
Steve