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[mirth]

...Please be advised that the next tournament will be run by me with help from Bruce B., Jon B., Brett C., and Allan S...

I thought that the next tournament is IOS #3 The Fairfield Finale?  

I thought its the Fairfield Fairwell?

[Jon Brakel]

...Please be advised that the next tournament will be run by me with help from Bruce B., Jon B., Brett C., and Allan S...

I thought that the next tournament is IOS #3 The Fairfield Finale?  

I thought its the Fairfield Fairwell?

Well, I guess you know how I voted on the name of the tournament!  

It's also a running joke if it's Fairfield Farewell or Fairfield Fairwell.

[CEValkyrie]

well CEValkryie,
    maybe if you would tell people that certain things are or are not allowed; not saying it wasnt allowed because the "rulebook" said it was, then maybe there would have never been a problem, or for that matter very rude sarcasm to which you are refering to certain people without having enough testosterone to say the name or names to the thing or things that you let or did not let happen. i mean in reality if you hadn't let some old weird dude do whatever it is that he wanted to do. then i dont think those "someones who doesnt understand the grouping of players" wouldnt have had a problem with it in the first place. if it was done properly. i mean really. what would it have taken so that there wasnt a problem? a hey you old weird dude, go run over there and play with the other people in your division. and then an oh no scratch out the names on the scorecards and write the new ones? i mean to solve the problem and not bother many people it could have easily been addessed. maybe if those in charge had done the right thing by finishing what they started, which was putting everyone in right groups, or taking a few minutes to switch people and cards around, it wouldnt be such a big deal to those, i mean you, who seemed to have a problem by posting a dumb request of talking about people to other people on the internet and being extremly rude about it.

thanx for your time, and have a great day!
see ya at the next tourney ;-)

I'm not sure what the problem is. I apologize if you think there was some type of rude sarcasm aimed at you.

Here is my original post.
Jon,
Would you like to explain to someone who doesn't understand the grouping of players for a PDGA tournament?

For example, how a Intermediate player is grouped with Jr. Boys or how an Advanced Master is grouped with Int. Women.



Here is why I posted this. On Saturday, there was a player who did not understand why he had to play with the Junior Boys for the 2nd round & another player who didn't understand why he had to play with the Intermediate Women. Both players were Intermediate players.

Also, on Sunday, The best first round Advanced score was -7. There were three -6's. The -7 & 2 of the -6's were on the lead card. One of the -6's was bumped to the 2nd card. Jon bumped the player who was not a PDGA member to the 2nd card. I think that's fair. Having a PDGA membership has it's advantages.

There was an Open player that had to play with the Pro Masters both rounds as well.

My post was to discuss how PDGA Tournament Groupings work & educate players in this area. Not to slam or bash anyone.

As far as your post. We all go to tournaments to play disc golf. I don't care who's in my group, I just play my own game anyway. Just have some fun playing disc golf & don't worry what is going on around you. You can control your game, not how situations are handled around you. I'm sorry you didn't like the way the situation was handled. Maybe you could assist us at the next tournament & make sure all 42 players are happy with every decision made.

Also, If I was told there was another player added to my division, i'd be like, hell yeah, another player. Cool! Especially if there were only 2 in my division to start with.

Last, that old weird dude is a player just like you. If he wants to change divisions, he has every right to do so before the round starts.

[CEValkyrie]

he did have one thing right though, CE Valkyrie does have very little testosterone.

Dan, does that mean you got whooped by a biaaatch this past weekend?  

[Jon Brakel]

You know I put the rules about ties in there and then forgot to address it. When we have ties we have to use a set method across the board to determine order on the card and who gets on the upper card. We use PDGA membership first. PDGA members get to be on the upper card before non-members. Next we use PDGA number. The lower number gets to be on the upper card before the higher number. For ties for non-members we use random selection. For ties for a play off or the Pro Final Four we use the hot round method where the player with the best round of the two gets the upper spot.

[Guest]

i don't understand why people like to assume that just because i put my say in something, that you have to assume that i am a "he" or a "his" yea i think that before you go off trying to get upset in a manly strong way that if i had said this to your face, you wouldn't have quiet expressed your anger or whatever it is that you had when you read it, if you had known that i was a 15 year old gurl... in which i am refering to dan, and myke....... L8eR

[Myk]

i don't understand why people like to assume that just because i put my say in something, that you have to assume that i am a "he" or a "his" yea i think that before you go off trying to get upset in a manly strong way that if i had said this to your face, you wouldn't have quiet expressed your anger or whatever it is that you had when you read it, if you had known that i was a 15 year old gurl... in which i am refering to dan, and myke....... L8eR

Okay, so you're a 15 year old girl.  I still would have thanked you for your opinion, which I honestly thank you for, and still tried to inform you incorectly that the DISContinuum Blast was the next tourney.  I didn't intentionally try to misinform you though as I had forgotten that the Fairfield Fairwell was the next tourney.  If you really read anger in my last post, I apologize, it was not my intent.  Whether you are a 15 year old girl or a 40 something old man, I'll value your opinion.

[Bruce Brakel]

...Please be advised that the next tournament will be run by me with help from Bruce B., Jon B., Brett C., and Allan S...

I thought that the next tournament is IOS #3 The Fairfield Finale?  

I thought its the Fairfield Fairwell?

Did Fairfield Foto Finish get voted down?  

[mirth]

People vote around here?

[Jon Brakel]

People vote around here?

I think it was just The Trio that came up with names. But between the three of us we came up with about 8 names for the Fairfield leg. My name for the Crystal Lake leg was The Crystal Method, but I was quickly out voted on that one.

[damonshort]

Grouping and Sectioning 101 is dismissed.

Let's move on to level 201.

Say you're the tournament director in the following scenario:

Say, you're the tournament director in the following scenario!

Junior boys < 10: 5
Junior girls < 19: 2
Junior girls < 16: 3
Junior girls < 13: 3

How would this be handled? Do you just send 'officials' out with the 2somes?

You've also got 44 old men and 11 very old men, but I'm thinking they don't figure into this...

[Jon Brakel]

Grouping and Sectioning 101 is dismissed.

Let's move on to level 201.

Say you're the tournament director in the following scenario:

Say, you're the tournament director in the following scenario!

Junior boys < 10: 5
Junior girls < 19: 2
Junior girls < 16: 3
Junior girls < 13: 3

How would this be handled? Do you just send 'officials' out with the 2somes?

You've also got 44 old men and 11 very old men, but I'm thinking they don't figure into this...

I would like to play, so I would purposely make some two-somes. Officials walking with are always welcome to play. The other way to do it would be to mix the divisions--mixing only the jrs. not the old men. I think that's what's going to happen. Of course, I have no say that I know of about it. I think those decisions will come from higher up.

[mirth]

My initial reaction was to say I'd send a chaperone with the fivesome of boys and split the two < 19 girls with the < 16 and < 13 groups.

Not really fair for the 16, 17, or 18 year old girls cuz they wouldn't be able to play with each other... But they'd be helping to guide their younger colleagues in tournament play (assuming they've seen previous tournament rounds).

[Jon Brakel]

My initial reaction was to say I'd send a chaperone with the fivesome of boys and split the two < 19 girls with the < 16 and < 13 groups.

Not really fair for the 16, 17, or 18 year old girls cuz they wouldn't be able to play with each other... But they'd be helping to guide their younger colleagues in tournament play (assuming they've seen previous tournament rounds).

A five-some of jr boys under 10, even with an escort, is going to take FOREVER to play. The girls would like to mix during Worlds and I let the powers that be know that. Hopefully since they are willing to mix they won't mind playing with the under 10 boys also. The girls think it wouldn't be as much fun if they only played with the girls in their division for the entire week.

[mirth]

Since when did Worlds come into the equation?

[Jon Brakel]

Since when did Worlds come into the equation?

That's what Damon has been talking about. When else would you have 44 Grand Masters and 11 Legends?

[Bruce Brakel]

Since when did Worlds come into the equation?

That's what Damon has been talking about. When else would you have 44 Grand Masters and 11 Legends?

In a cemetary?

[damonshort]

Since when did Worlds come into the equation?

That's what Damon has been talking about. When else would you have 44 Grand Masters and 11 Legends?

Actually, they're Senior Grandmasters, not Legends. SG1 is over 60, I think Legends is over 70, but there are no Amateur or Advanced Legends, only Pro Legends.

I think the next division over 80 is called Miracles or something....

[Jon Brakel]

Since when did Worlds come into the equation?

That's what Damon has been talking about. When else would you have 44 Grand Masters and 11 Legends?

Actually, they're Senior Grandmasters, not Legends. SG1 is over 60, I think Legends is over 70, but there are no Amateur or Advanced Legends, only Pro Legends.

I think the next division over 80 is called Miracles or something....

Oops, my mistake. But shouldn't they be Great Grand Masters?    

[DiscGolfSchodt]

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