2005 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES

[mirth]

Ray Hill is the latest preregistration for IOS #1, playing recreational.

[DougEDawg]

Brett,

Any idea when the pin positions will be locked in for IOS#1?  Also, will Am's play one round from the long tees and one from the short tees?  If not, what will the tee format be?

[shawn]

is there a pre-reg form or just paypal for these events?    ... sorry I don't feel like browzing through the post to find out.

[mirth]

you can prereg via mail or in person by paying your registration fee plus PDGA nonmember fee (if applicable), and course use fee in cash, check, or money order (payable to discontinuum).

Some folks like to pay via credit card, which is the main reason paypal is there.

If you want to preregister via mail you can mail your info & payment to Brett's address as listed on the online prereg pages.

[Dan Michler]

Brett,

Any idea when the pin positions will be locked in for IOS#1?  Also, will Am's play one round from the long tees and one from the short tees?  If not, what will the tee format be?

i'm not a decision maker, but from what i understand the Ams will be playing shorts in 1 round and in the 2nd they will play about half shorts and half longs.

[whofarted]

what kind of course is it?

[Dan Michler]

Parkside is a top notch course without a doubt.  Its got length on some open holes and its got some extremely tight fairways.  pars are very good out there from the longs.

[whofarted]

i just went the the SE Wisconsin webpage where they have pictures of all the holes, that course looks intense!  what's the average score there?

[damonshort]

i just went the the SE Wisconsin webpage where they have pictures of all the holes, that course looks intense!  what's the average score there?

you can check last year's Pro & Adv scores from the Prairie Open to give you an idea of the toughest layout. It was really windy in 2003 so the scores were somewhat higher.

Ints played short tees both rounds. Adv Masters played long 1st, short 2nd.

[Chainmeister]

Thats good to know.  It seems that there is about a 10 stroke difference in SSA depending on which tees are played.  The shorts seem comprable to Bevier and the longs, well, long.

[whofarted]

so are most decent scores around even, give or take a few strokes?

[pat]

It is a very tough course from the long tees with the baskets in the long positions. If you check the scores from the last Prairie Open only two players shot under par on Saturday. Barry Schultz -7,  and Arron Wield -5. So I'd say with the course in that layout par would be good for anyone.  I believe par to be about a 990 rated round.  

[CEValkyrie]

I'll have a list of basket placements being played for Saturday & Sunday posted this weekend if the site is still working.

Saturday players will be playing long tees both rounds.

Sunday players will be playing the shorts the first round then 9short/9long the 2nd round.


Final 4 Open Safari Holes
#1
Temp Tee from sidewalk near light pole to #1 basket
Approx 750ft.

#2
#2 long tee to #3 basket
Approx 650ft

#3
Regular hole #4
429ft

#4
Temp tee near #4's basket to #1 basket.
Approx 350ft

[DougEDawg]

Thanks Brett.  Could you also let us know which long baskets the ams will play on Sunday?

[Dan Michler]

I don't think that the setup is going to be in all the hardest pin positions, so it won't be QUITE as hard as in the Prairie Open the past 2 years.

[DougEDawg]

Cool.  Just wanted to know which holes we will be playing from the long tees, so I can try them out.

[Bruce Brakel]

Brett, if you are going to do a mix of tees on Sunday, you need to spell it out on the scorecard.  I think we should just put the Sunday players on shorts and keep it simple, but if you and Jon think there is a good reason for making this complicated, go for it.

[Brian]

Brett, if you are going to do a mix of tees on Sunday, you need to spell it out on the scorecard. I think we should just put the Sunday players on shorts and keep it simple, but if you and Jon think there is a good reason for making this complicated, go for it.

I know that when I played the Prairie Open last year as an Int.  I was pissed that we played the shorts all day.  Isn't the point of INT. to get them to better themselves and come close to Advanced?  When not have them play at least some off the holes from the longs?  This way they can tests themselves out on some of the harder holes.  I would have a round from the shorts and a round from the longs.  However, some people will complain of the length (which I would like).  I would just keep it simple and play either front 9 long OR alternate odds short evens long.    

[Jon Brakel]

It will be on the score card. Read your score card.

[CEValkyrie]

Brett, if you are going to do a mix of tees on Sunday, you need to spell it out on the scorecard. I think we should just put the Sunday players on shorts and keep it simple, but if you and Jon think there is a good reason for making this complicated, go for it.

I know that when I played the Prairie Open last year as an Int.  I was pissed that we played the shorts all day.  Isn't the point of INT. to get them to better themselves and come close to Advanced?  When not have them play at least some off the holes from the longs?  This way they can tests themselves out on some of the harder holes.  I would have a round from the shorts and a round from the longs.  However, some people will complain of the length (which I would like).  I would just keep it simple and play either front 9 long OR alternate odds short evens long.

Brain,
    I totally understand what you are saying. At all of the events last year all Lower day players played the same tees as the Adv/Pro day. This will be the same at all the courses except Parkside. We've had good turnout of Rec/Jr/Women players as well as intermediate. To keep the course flowing well I don't think it would be wise to play the all longs. I'll post the layout this weekend.