Quarter K

[Brian]

After Whan Bam, I watched Mike Batka throw the Quarter K.  It was a rocket out of his hand and was crushed. The disc is faster than the Beast or Crush. It seemed to get to 400 feet in about 2 seconds. The throw as probably around 450 and it went straight as an arrow an faded right at the end of the flight.  The rim is a bit unusual, but if you use a fork grip like I do it's not a problem.

[D]

jetpacks included?

[Bruce Brakel]

You might have seen a proto.  Did it have the QuarterK logo and the words "FIRST RUN" stamped on it?

The timing looks good to have these for IOS #4 at Rockford.  They are supposed to start shipping them at the end of the month.  I have a pre-order in.

[Brian]

yes, first run was on the disc.  

No jet pack, that is a $300 option from your local discwing vendor

[shawn]

I should throw mine as it has a big scuff on one edge.  I'm guessing the one I got has been thrown a few times...  It says first run on it..   Bruce, are you taking preorders?  I'd like to get 2 lighter ones around 168...  I still have a baggie of brass cash to spend..

[Bruce Brakel]

I took some throws right handed today on the baseball practice field at Kensington.  I got a great throw with my Crush.  Then I threw a Sidewinder on a huge hyzer angle and it flipped up flat and glided and glided and glided until it landed next to the Crush.  Both of these throws were probably 330 feet.  Then I threw QK and it just took off.  I literally threw it out of sight, but I have trouble seeing that color of red in the shadows.  I figured it was lost because I threw it into the schule that is way beyond how far I can throw.  When I got there it had landed in the short grass next to the bike path about 8 feet in to where the bike path splits the schule.  That has to be at least 400 feet.  Jamie Mosier says it is 450.  

On my next two reps I only threw it as far as the Crush on the average.

Discraft's rap on the QK is that it will be tricky to control with a very narrow stability zone.  They say the inner rim on a normal disc works like a stabilizer as much as it is also a spoiler.  They are probably correct about this.  But, on that hole where you can't reach the basket with anything in your bag, like most of the holes at Edgebrook, this disc will give you the advantage.

Which reminds me, these are not for sale to Brett or Dan.    

[Jon Brakel]

Reserve one for me also Bruce. Probably one around 168g to 171g if possible. I don't have any more brass left but I have cash!

[Bruce Brakel]

Now that the day is cooling down [was it hot there?] I'm going to go throw several weights at the football field to see how weight affects the flight.  I got my long bomb with a 165.

Update:  I threw a 165, 168 and 172 against a 174 Crush.  I did four sets.  The Discwings won everytime.  I was getting the Crush to go 315-330.  The Discwings were going 325-355.  I was throwing in lush, thick turf and that always takes a little off my throw.

There did not seem to be a relationship between distance and weight.  I could not S the heavier one and it turned more, but seemed to go just as far.  

[Mitch]

Bruce,

Please add me to the reserve list for a QK. I have brass till Rockford.

[DougEDawg]

I'll take a QK also.....170-172 would be optimal.

I'll pick it up at Rockford.

[CEValkyrie]

For those of you out there want a distance disc go get a Champion Orc. They are fast and stable. If they are too stable for you get a lighter one. If you thought they were too understable last year pick up a new 2005 clear one. They are much more stable. I picked one up last summer & went from 325ft to throwing over 350ft consistently. I shouldn't even be sharing this info with anyone. I can't throw that far. It's funny watching players with stronger arms at Fairfield throw perfect drives with DX Beasts & then throwing by them with a bad Orc shot. I've thrown the QK & I can still chuck an Orc farther. Dan was the talk of the week out there. The players out there could not believe he was throwing that far at Highbridge. Larry Kempen went to the trailer & said "get me an Orc that goes far kid. I'm tired of people throwing by me with Orcs."

[Bruce Brakel]

For those of you out there want a distance disc go get a Champion Orc. They are fast and stable. If they are too stable for you get a lighter one.

Brett is only saying this because I won't sell him a QK!  

I agree that the Champ Orc is a great distance driver, and a lot more reliable if you need to throw 310 feet around that tree and finish next to the basket.  After throwing Champ Orcs and Z-Crushes, I could not tell a difference so I went with the cheaper disc.  I think the z-Flash goes farther still, but only downwind.

If I did not see a difference between the Crush and the QK, I'd be quiet about it and hope to sell these discs eventually.  I might shovel a little b.s. for entertainment purposes but not to take money out of your wallet.  I think there is a real difference.  I think if Brett went out to the football field with two QKs and two Orcs and took 24 throws he'd see what I mean.  It takes a few throws to get used to the different grip and feel on the release.

This is what everyone should do:  buy a DX Beast, QK and Champ Orc [from me, of course] and test throw them all.  If the QK is not the longest of the three, put it in the closet for three years and then the first runs will be collector's items going for $25 each.  

[Dan Michler]

i'll be interested to have somebody lend me a QK just to test it out, but from what i've heard the rim has a wierd rounded feel which is definitely not good for me.

as far as the Orc being the same as the Crush, that is with out a doubt an incorrect statement.  i have carried both for over a year now and the orc is faster for sure.  I always felt that for me, my 174 orange crush seemed to handle the wind alot better than last years 175 orcs and it glided on an anhyzer alot better.  however, the new clear orcs are more stable and handle the wind much better, so the crush has taken a back seat.  

i still throw 165-169 orcs from last year's plastic for shots that will flatten from a hyzer angle easily.  the light orcs have taken brett's game to a whole new level and that is no lie.  i've seen him throw long shot after long shot consistently through tight holes because he throws his light orcs on a slight hyzer angle and they flatten and GO.  this has produced more distance WITH accuracy i think over throwing the CE valks.

the lesson is:  go get an orc of the proper weight to improve your game!!

[Bruce Brakel]

i'll be interested to have somebody lend me a QK just to test it out, but from what i've heard the rim has a wierd rounded feel which is definitely not good for me.

Yes, because Dan just cannot throw any discs with weird [cough] Rattler! [/cough] rims.  

I think the rim will have an effect on people who release the disc when throwing more than on people who let the disc pop out of their hand at the "hit."  Most people probably don't know which they are.  The QK will let you know.  

I think that if the patent is not approved Discraft and Innova will be quick to copy the concept.  Otherwise, one of them would be smart to license it, if the QK guy is smart enough to tap the Innova or Discraft distribution market that way.  

Anyway, on Dan and Brett's recommendation, I'll have to give the Champ Orc another look.  When I get my right arm back for keeps.

[Bruce Brakel]

Just some more QK notes.

The plastic is reasonably durable for something that feels like DX.  I skipped off the cart path a couple of times at Edgebrook and did very little damage to the disc.  It was stable into the wind.  It was good enough for second place at the Chicago City DGC.  

If you bought heavier weight models at Rockford, you'll probably find it too overstable.  At 165 it is a sweet driver.

[damonshort]

I got a 168 at Rockford and threw it a few times today. (I threw it a couple of times between rounds on Saturday but given the way I was throwing anyhow it was hardly a test.    - although drives weren't my biggest problem that day)

It did out-distance most of the discs I was trying to throw, but it does feel weird. Definitely overstable, and it hasn't hit anything other than the ground, so the jury's still out...    

[SnoMoDude]

I bought a 174 QK at rockford and the first time i threw it I got huge distance on it when compared to my other "overstable" drivers.  It also seems that if you release the disc level (no heiser/an-heiser) and throw hard enough you can get it to turn over preety good.  It seems to have more low speed fade than than a valk.  Which is wierd since it is advertised as a really overstable disc.
The plastic is like a mix between a DX and  a pro line.  Sweet disc.        
Even though its British.  

[Bruce Brakel]

I meant to add earlier in the week, and maybe posted on some other QK thread, that the plastic does not seem to be any more or less durable than DX or D.  I am going to reserve my QKs for open holes that don't have trees that I can hit with power, like most of Streamwood.  

Since beating the one QK up a bit I have not got back to the football field.  I will.

[Jon Brakel]

I played Streamwood today. Used the QK on drives on holes 4, 6, 9, 10, 15 and 16. Everytime I was 20 to 30 feet closer than I have been in the past. I still played the course 8 over because other than driving the only shot that was working for me was my thumber putt.

[SERG]

Looks like the Qk can be dyed:

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