2006 Am Worlds in Tulsa

[SERG]

Where is this rant??? I'd like to read it.

[Bruce Brakel]

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Rules&Number=522131&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Kevin posts as PuliMon.  There's a whole lot of hatin' on the ams in his posts.

[CEValkyrie]

I e-mailed Kevin to find out if it was a trophy only, player pack, no payout event. I'll post when I get a response.

[Chainmeister]

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Rules&Number=522131&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Kevin posts as PuliMon.  There's a whole lot of hatin' on the ams in his posts.

I don't get it Bruce.  I mocked you a bit in an earlier post, but it seems you are right.  I never have coffee brewed by people who don't drink coffee. I don't like to walk into an ethnic resturaunt staffed by non ethnics.  Why play an AM tournament, a big AM tournament, run by a guy who really has a hard on for AMs?  I guess he really doesn't have a problem with me.  I suck so bad he will want me to continue to play AM.  However, he wants one AM division so I can get pasted by someone with a 900 or so rating. Its guys like you he is after.  He can't understand why  low to mid 900ish AMs are still playing advanced.  I'll take a pass on Tulsa and shoot for Milwaukee (which is run by a guy like you who tries to get more AMs into the sport.)  Its not a matter of payout for me.  Aint gonna happen no matter where I go, its a matter of who I want to support and where I will feel welcome.

[CEValkyrie]

Here is the response I got.
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Brett

It is NOT going to be trophy only, but there won't be anyone walking out with $1400
in merch like last year.  The players pack is already worth more than the entry so I
would expect the payout to be significantly different. Honieger and The PDGA handles
the payout, we just get the players packs together.

Kev

[Bruce Brakel]

So maybe they are going payout-lite, but they want to be cagey about it?  After he referred to the amateur divisions as the Special Olympics, and after he responded that any Advanced rated players who didn't want to play open should just quit, I asked:

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Me:

Given all the animosity you express towards amateurs, why should any of them expect you to be running a good Am Worlds for them this summer? If I were on the fence about Am Worlds, this would definately make up my mind for me
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Kevin:

Bruce,

WELCOME TO TROPHY ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!! well sort of

Trust me THE AMS WILL LOVE their PLAYERS PACKS....Its already over 100% of their entry fee.

& I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST AMS!!!!!!!!

I have a problem with the current system that keeps them AMS
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He says over and over on the thread that he does not think amateurs should get a thing for competing except a trophy and maybe some stuff through a random drawing.  That would be trophy-only sort of.

[maa4208]

I got an e-mail today saying that I am invited to Worlds! 

[Cannon Boy]

sweet, I am allready signed up and paid. Thats why I have to play advanced for a few more tournies.  Played one course their, Mclure or something, and it was pretty sweet.