IL USDGC SPOT

[Cannon Boy]

  I was just wondering what are current IL state cordinator is going to do with the one spot he gets to fill for USDGC?

[Jon Brakel]

  I was just wondering what are current IL state cordinator is going to do with the one spot he gets to fill for USDGC?

You should ask him. 

[CEValkyrie]

Neal,

Here is some information for you.


From USDGC.com

PDGA State Coordinators may select one competitor to represent their state in the 2006 Championship. These spots are guaranteed through 08/01/06. Coordinators may have this deadline extended if relying on a state series or single event that concludes after August 1. The full entry fee must be paid by August 1st even if a competitor has not been named. Players seeking these spots should contact their State Coordinator for more information.

[Mike Clark]

  I was just wondering what are current IL state cordinator is going to do with the one spot he gets to fill for USDGC?

You should ask him. 

Jon Brakel, current IL State Coordinator, what are you doing with the 2006 USDGC IL State Representative spot?

[Mike Clark]

Neal,

Here is some information for you.


From USDGC.com

PDGA State Coordinators may select one competitor to represent their state in the 2006 Championship. These spots are guaranteed through 08/01/06. Coordinators may have this deadline extended if relying on a state series or single event that concludes after August 1. The full entry fee must be paid by August 1st even if a competitor has not been named. Players seeking these spots should contact their State Coordinator for more information.

Sorry for the double post but. This is disturbing information. This means we have less than 1 month to pay the entry for who ever is going. That is not giving someone alot of time to prepare to go.

[Jon Brakel]

  I was just wondering what are current IL state coordinator is going to do with the one spot he gets to fill for USDGC?

You should ask him. 

Jon Brakel, current IL State Coordinator, what are you doing with the 2006 USDGC IL State Representative spot?

The person with the best score at The Peoria Open on the Advanced/Pro day who informs me that they are committed to attend the 2006 USDGC will receive the state coordinator exemption. They must then immediately send in their registration. If no one who attends Peoria is committed to going then the exemption will go to Rockford. If no one is committed to going from Rockford or the person who qualifies does not register, then I'll give it away to someone who is committed to going.

[Bruce Brakel]

All of the people who think you are one of my minions have been e-mailing me for details.     Is this available to anyone who gets their butt down [up, over] to Peoria, or only to Illinois residents?  I've had at least three Wisconsin guys who play the IOS ask.  Maybe some more.  It seems like one every day almost since you posted.  Maybe I've been telling them the wrong thing.  I keep telling them probably Illinois residents but to check with you and i give them your brasscash e-mail.

For anyone who wonders how the whole Brasscash/IOS/Discontinuum/WJGC/Brakel Brothers thing works, it is not like anyone is in charge and the rest are minions.  It is more like the Borg collective, but without a queen, except you can sever your link and freelance a little if you want to.  We'll reassimilate you in due time.  Resistance is futile. 

That's why my posts jump back and forth from first person singular to first person plural, if you've ever noticed that.  When I go all royal on you, I'm actually channeling the collective hive mind.    

We hope to see a lot of you in Peoria.  I'll be there for sure.

[Jon Brakel]

Last year I protected the spot for an Illinois player. This year, I say bring it on! The best score in Peoria on Saturday that wants to go to the USDGC gets it...even if they are Romulan scum! 

[Mike Clark]

Last year I protected the spot for an Illinois player. This year, I say bring it on! The best score in Peoria on Saturday that wants to go to the USDGC gets it...even if they are Romulan scum! 

Shouldn't it be reserved for an Illinois disc golfer who lives in Iliinois?

[Jon Brakel]

Last year I protected the spot for an Illinois player. This year, I say bring it on! The best score in Peoria on Saturday that wants to go to the USDGC gets it...even if they are Romulan scum! 

Shouldn't it be reserved for an Illinois disc golfer who lives in Iliinois?

Why?

[Bruce Brakel]

Not to put words in the mouth of one of my minions, but the why not answer is:  Last year no one asked about it in advance.  Jon publicized it on every club message board in the state for about six weeks and on PDGA.com.  Maybe five people showed up to compete for it, four amateurs and a pro woman, unless there was another foursome I'm forgetting about.  Brain = Swiss cheese.  So why not? 

When I went this route three years ago at the Flip City MDGO, it was very controversial.  Michigan players showed up to defend it from the Indiana players.  Some of them told me in a huff that they only came to the tournament so that an indiana player would not win it.  Ten of them got a petition going to stop me that they e-mailed to Innova.  Harold Duvall responded saying that he rather liked the concept of holding the competition in some remote part of your state but letting anyone compete for the invitation.  It was the most fun i had that summer. 

I'll tell those Wisconsin players to bring it.  I'll tell Utah players to bring it! 

[Jon: I know why.  You are not unplugged.  The collective approves.]   

[Dan Michler]

I would say that the reason for giving it to an Illinois player is so that the rest of us can see how one of our own local players who we compete against regularly stacks up against the best field in the world.

[Mike Clark]

Shouldn't it be reserved for an Illinois disc golfer who lives in Iliinois?

Why?

because it is an illinois exemption? why have state exemption then?

[Chainmeister]

Mike,

I have to agree with you on this one.  I am normally not very parochial.  However, its the Illinois State Coordinator's exemption.  It would seem appropriate for someone from Illinois to use it.  Fortunately, the Peoria Open is being held just about smack dab in the middle of Illinois.  High gas prices and miles should provide somewhat of a barrier for the Romulons, Klingons, Hoosiers and Cheesheads. However, the great courses and exemption might tempt them into our sector of the galaxy.

[Jon Brakel]

Bruce pretty much summed it up. I thought that people would want to try to win the exemption but after pimping the hell out of the chance to win it last year I only had 4 people that wanted to try to win it. Maybe by opening it up to anyone will encourage some of the better Illinois players to come out and try to win it. However, it is a fairly expensive trip in terms of time off from work, lodging, travel, entry fee, etc. so I don't really think there are many players who "WANT" it. I guess I'll find out on Saturday.

[M. cephalus]

Well if no one wants it, I'll take it.  But I can't make Peoiria this weekend.

[Mike Clark]

Bruce pretty much summed it up. I thought that people would want to try to win the exemption but after pimping the hell out of the chance to win it last year I only had 4 people that wanted to try to win it. Maybe by opening it up to anyone will encourage some of the better Illinois players to come out and try to win it. However, it is a fairly expensive trip in terms of time off from work, lodging, travel, entry fee, etc. so I don't really think there are many players who "WANT" it. I guess I'll find out on Saturday.

Did 1 of those 4 people play in the USDGC and were they an Illinois resident? If so then it worked out okay didn't it. Why does it matter how many players from Illinois participate as long as the person who wins goes and represents Illinois at the USDGC? Which to me is what having an exemption for the state is all about. Am I wrong?

[widiscgolf]

No kidding.  I would go in a heartbeat.

[Jon Brakel]

Bruce pretty much summed it up. I thought that people would want to try to win the exemption but after pimping the hell out of the chance to win it last year I only had 4 people that wanted to try to win it. Maybe by opening it up to anyone will encourage some of the better Illinois players to come out and try to win it. However, it is a fairly expensive trip in terms of time off from work, lodging, travel, entry fee, etc. so I don't really think there are many players who "WANT" it. I guess I'll find out on Saturday.

Did 1 of those 4 people play in the USDGC and were they an Illinois resident? If so then it worked out okay didn't it. Why does it matter how many players from Illinois participate as long as the person who wins goes and represents Illinois at the USDGC? Which to me is what having an exemption for the state is all about. Am I wrong?

You aren't wrong, it's just a different opinion. However, the exemption isn't for the state of Illinois it is for the State Coordinator. Some state coordinators use the exemption to go to the USDGC themselves. I thought that last year I should protect the exemption for an Illinois resident because as far as I could tell no one had ever used the state coordinator exemption (for Illinois) since the inception of the USDGC. This year I thought I'd open it up. If I'm the state coordinator in 2007 and the USDGC decides to continue to offer the state coordinator exemption I'll try to think up something really controversial to do with the exemption. Some states the discussion on what the state coordinator should do with the exemption gets really hot and heavy. These conversations we have about it in Illinois just pale in comparison!  

[Dan Michler]

Bruce pretty much summed it up. I thought that people would want to try to win the exemption but after pimping the hell out of the chance to win it last year I only had 4 people that wanted to try to win it. Maybe by opening it up to anyone will encourage some of the better Illinois players to come out and try to win it. However, it is a fairly expensive trip in terms of time off from work, lodging, travel, entry fee, etc. so I don't really think there are many players who "WANT" it. I guess I'll find out on Saturday.

i think saying you pimped the hell out of that little Edgebrook thing is a bit of an exaggeration.  what did you do besides post on a few internet message boards?  nobody knew about it.  it was planned in very short notice (1 month ahead though compared to this year's last second notice which would have never come without Neal Swanson's post).