2008 IOS #5 @ Rockford, IL (DISContinuum Presents The ILLINOIS OPEN)

[stpitner]

I like the staggered start idea.  The one concern that I do have - and it's really more just for the other people that are already started on their rounds - they need to pay attention to what time it is in relation to the other start times.  All 3 of these courses are right next to each other, and if someone is trying to concentrate on a putt when there's all of a sudden a loud bull horn noise followed by yelling of two minutes - it might screw up someone's shot.

Unless you plan on doing some sort of silent start...

I've played tournaments with the staggered starts like that in one park.  2000 Worlds and 2008 Worlds for example.  Maybe one of the Homies.  So long as they are staggered enough that one course's start is not mistaken for the other, hearing the horns and the yelling on the other course never bothered me.  The gunshots from the 'hood at Milwaukee Worlds were more disconcerting than the staggered horns at Three Rivers. 

The bigger problem is with people who want to get on the course when it is still in use before their round.  Sometimes those people will go out and spot and be helpful.  Sometimes they wander around looking for their start hole and slow things down.  At Iowa Worlds they banned you from setting foot on the course in use.  We probably won't have the staff for that.  At Kalamazoo they used sarcasm.  I heard Larry, or someone at Pinball Pines when he was there, saying in a Larry sort of way, "Gentlemen.  If you want to speed up the ladies, go out and spot.  If you want to slow them down, go out and wander aimlessly in packs.  It's your call." 

Is it not possible that for the group that tees off first - after their one hour break, some cards might still be out there on their next course in progression?  Granted you would think that with a max of 4-somes on each card and only 18-holes that 3 hour rounds should not be a problem.  I guess one way to make sure that it's safe to send everyone out is that every card has already been turned in.

Is it also safe to say that there will be a shuffle within your pool after every round? (also assuming that no division will spill to multiple pools)

[pickax]

I was out at the course this morning. I forget how much Anna Page beats me up. It was nice to have the course to myself for a few hours to throw multiple drives per hole. I left around 9:00am just as a good crowd was showing up to practice for next weekend.

[El Mexicano]

We played 4 rounds today at Rockord and I am spent. We printed out the map with the temp course and decided to play the holes to the best of our abilities and interpretation. Some fun holes await us next weekend. I truly enjoyed the shots needed and man is there O.B. Lots of people out there today. Can't wait till next weekend.

[Bruce Brakel]

Is it not possible that for the group that tees off first - after their one hour break, some cards might still be out there on their next course in progression?  Granted you would think that with a max of 4-somes on each card and only 18-holes that 3 hour rounds should not be a problem.  I guess one way to make sure that it's safe to send everyone out is that every card has already been turned in.

Is it also safe to say that there will be a shuffle within your pool after every round? (also assuming that no division will spill to multiple pools)

It is possible that three-hour rounds will be too fast for the slowest players, but I really think the everyone will be off the two permanent courses in three hours.  I have not seen the temp course.  Brett thinks it will play like the other two courses.  You have to remember, if you've played previous IOSes at Anna Page, that we've never done 18-hole rounds there before, usually 20 or 22, but it seems like we've always done 3-hour rounds.  So I think the rounds should play 15 to 30 minutes faster.  But if things go over, we stretch out the schedule or shorten lunch.  An hour lunch seems like forever when there is food right there and you don't have to go anywhere.  The Saturday schedule ends a half hour before sunset, and Sunday ends an hour earlier than that, so we have some wriggle room. 

[CEValkyrie]

The temp course will play very similar to the other 2 courses on the property.  4-somes on those 3 courses should not run over 3 hours.

[Bruce Brakel]

There will be a sort for every round.  I think it is safe to say that your division will not be split between pools.  The only way any division would be split between pools would be if a division exceeded 90 players or five divisions exceeded 45 players.  This isn't Bowling Green.  That's not going to happen.  We have a plan if it does, but forget about it. 
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Other news and updates

We are getting a huge pile of donated CTPs.  Dave McCormack of Gateway just donated 43 CTPs.     A lot of clubs have been donating stuff.     Plus we will do a tournament round of Brass CTPs.  Should be a huge CTPfest.

Innova is supposed to be donating bonus stuff, but not for CTPs.  After I explained to Mr. Duvall how we price average the free stuff with the bought stuff, he said he'd send a lot of extra free stuff and he wanted to hear that I reduced my prices on Innova.  I have not seen the invoices yet.  I don't know what he sent but someone called the other day and asked if they could substitute Discatcher Sports for the Skillshots, and he was using the plural. 

Right now the lunch plan is for $1 you will get two large slices of pizza (1/4th of a large round), a beverage and maybe chips.  Lunch will be supervised so no one is running off to his car with a box for himself.  We will try to over order to ensure that no one gets stuck with the last two slices.  You will pay at lunch time.  We're going to do this both days.  If we're overcharging you on Saturday, Sunday might be free to you.  It depends on how many play and how many eat. 

[pickax]

There are two things that really slow down a round (ok, there's a third that Barret mentioned to me today, but it is non sequitor).
1- 5 somes.
2- players who can't keep track of where their disc went.

#1 should not be an issue next weekend.
#2 is up to the players to help any space cadet cardmates that they might have.

[OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN]

mmmm pizza

[Hungry Dsic golfer]

is that delivery or dijourno

[Hungry Disc golfer]

And what exactly is "1/4 of a large round" ?    Double Sausage Pepperoni on top.  thanks

[Jon Brakel]

The only way any division would be split between pools would be if a division exceeded 90 players.

foursomes x 18 holes = 72 players. How do you get 90?

[Bruce Brakel]

5 X 18 = 90. 

But this isn't Bowling Green.  It's not going to happen. 

I've never read anything about capping at 288.

But this isn't Bowling Green.  289 isn't going to happen.   

[OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN]

avery can you sign me peice of pizza. right next to dave nelsons autograph

[dana]

overhand- hah!


I like the changes to the west course.  real nice mix of holes. 

[El Mexicano]

More top guns registered for IOS#5

[Bruce Brakel]

I think we're up to 100 now, counting the ones that have not been processed.

I'm attaching the course and pool schedule.   The Open pool is assigned and won't be changing.  The other divisions will be filled in later.  If we cut a pool because we don't need it, we'll cut pool D.  But it would make more sense to run smaller, faster pools than to cut a pool.  Pools should be set Friday evening during the doubles. 

For the people who have a long wait between the player meeting and tee-off on Saturday, please observe that the temp course will be available for practice during most of that wait.  The temp course starts late and finishes early each day so it can set up and taken down during the daylight. 

[Bruce Brakel]

These are tentative pool assignments.  If they change, I'll edit the post! 

A: Recreational and other ams.
B: Open and other pros. 
C: Advanced and other ams.
D: Intermediate and other ams.

We'll put all pros and only pros in the B pool if possible. All other small divisions will be decided on Friday night depending on how they fit in, so I won't even speculate.  I think we want to run no more than four divisions in each pool if that works out. 

[whtsx2005]

I thought I read this somewhere on here but im gunna ask anyway. If the pool we play in does not start untill Noon do we still have to be there at 7-8am to check in?

[Bruce Brakel]

The schedule at www.illinoisopenseries.com says that the official pool assignments will be published Saturday morning.  And it is showing that check-in is 7:00 - 8:00 a.m. Saturday morning.  Unless Jon posts something otherwise, that's the plan. 

[stpitner]

ok - looking at that schedule - how come online pre-reg closes Wednesday at noon?  Isn't that pretty early for online pre-reg?  There's lots of slackers that like to wait   I was almost one of them!  The one reason I could come up with was that it might be to ensure there's enough time to transfer the money out of paypal.  However, you could get the pro cash covered by other means and cut a check for the rest

signed,
confuzzled