2008 MLB Season

[airspuds]

got tix for sun and monday  on the south side

im always been a big  phillies  Fan from the  middle 70's

schmidt ,  cash , bowa , boone , carlton , mcgraw,
the bull, maddox, mcbride to mention a few of the players that OWNED the scrubs in the 70's and 80's

How many home runs mike schmidt hit off cub pitchers ?
I think there was  4  in one game

ive seen a large number of baseball games on the north side
ryno 's first hit  and other unmemorable moments 
u have to remember a lot of those were day games and affordable

but ive seen playoff WINS on the south side ( and losses )

dan -  dont forget i owe you  10 bucks for our bet


Go White Sox !

Kev C is a Dodger Fan   so
GO Dodgers ! 

[Chainmeister]

Both teams can't win the series, but both could make the series which would be unreal.  Go White Sox! Go Cubs!

I agree with Tom. The next few weeks should provide lots of fun and excitement. I will root for the Cubs until after the Homie.   After that it all depends on the Undead.  If they are still stalking the playoffs after the Homie I will root for the bad boys in black.  They can only be killed when captured in a dome.  There are no domes in the playoffs. I think the team, and its fans, are very loose. When you have been flatlined nothing phases you.

Regardless...let the trash talking continue and let the games begin.  I rode my bike to work today. It should be interesting riding home through the madness on the north side. 

[deucemeister]

Well now, all those  Sox haters are eating crow today.   As much as I can't stand the Cubs, I will root for them, as I want the cross town series to happen, but it really wouldn't  surprise me one bit to see the Cubs drop out in the first round since they have ALWAYS choked whenever it means anything.  The Sox have been there, and when it counts, they will come through as they have shown.  

[pearso66]

Wow, you barely avoid a total collapse and then you call that a recipe for success.  Awesome!  I'm focused on enjoying this Cubs/Dodgers series and hopefully we get off to a good start in Game 1.  There is a long way to go to get to the World Series.  While I believe the Cubs were by far and away the best NL team for 162 games (angels in the AL), that does not make us the best team for the next month.  Sox fans, just keep praying for your miracle.

It's definitely not a recipe for success, but remember last year, the Rockies had to win 20-21 games to make the playoffs, and they went on to the World Series.  Remember in 06, both the Cardinals and the Tigers backed into the playoffs, and both teams made the World Series.

I'm not saying this matters in anything, and that the Sox WILL make the World Series, but anything can happen in the playoffs, and right now, the Sox are confident.  I think they have the best match up they could have hoped for in the 1st round.

I also wouldn't put too much on the Cubs being the best team in the NL, remember 01 I believe it was, when Seattle won 116 games or something like that, and went on to lose in the first round.

[pearso66]

This season was very similar to 05, leading most of the year only to nearly relinquish the lead. In 2005 WE  the Sox didn't give up the lead like in 08. I think most everyone remembers what happened in 05, 11-1 in the post season and a WS sweep.

Not that it is not going to happen again this year, but it is a little nicer to think about it when your team is back in the post season.

Both teams can't win the series, but both could make the series which would be unreal.  Go White Sox! Go Cubs!

I don't think it's similar to 05 really.  Yes Cleveland did make a race of it, but that's because they played like .700 baseball after the all-star break.  This season, the Sox and Minnesota played poorly at the end of the year, as if neither team wanted to win the division.

[JCthrills]

I don't see the Sox getting past the Angels. Either color of Sox...

[Tom McManus]

I don't see the Sox getting past the Angels. Either color of Sox...

What place did the Tigers end up?

[pearso66]

I don't see the Sox getting past the Angels. Either color of Sox...

I heard the same thing said in '05.  I know it's not the same thing, but anything can happen.  I would have agreed with you, but they actually split the season series, winning 2 of 3 in Chicago, and 3 of 7 in LA.  So it's not like they havn't played well against them this year.  I believe they played worse against both East teams than LA.  They only have 2 wins in domes this year, which worries me a little.

[JCthrills]

I don't see the Sox getting past the Angels. Either color of Sox...

What place did the Tigers end up?

I was a Tigers fan well before Leyland came to town. I'm still a baseball fan & have gotten used to an October w/o Detroit.  I'm just tossing out my opinion for the playoff's here. I'm firmly aware of the ridiculously bad season that absolutley no one saw coming for the Tigers.  I am however glad they're no tpicking up Rentaria's option... never thought we should have picked him up in the first place... whay they didnt make a move for Eckstein is beyond me.

Anyway... back to the playoffs!!!

Here's a match-up I'd really like to see... Sabathia vs. Zombrano

[Dan Michler]

Wow, you barely avoid a total collapse and then you call that a recipe for success.  Awesome!  I'm focused on enjoying this Cubs/Dodgers series and hopefully we get off to a good start in Game 1.  There is a long way to go to get to the World Series.  While I believe the Cubs were by far and away the best NL team for 162 games (angels in the AL), that does not make us the best team for the next month.  Sox fans, just keep praying for your miracle.

It's definitely not a recipe for success, but remember last year, the Rockies had to win 20-21 games to make the playoffs, and they went on to the World Series.  Remember in 06, both the Cardinals and the Tigers backed into the playoffs, and both teams made the World Series.

I'm not saying this matters in anything, and that the Sox WILL make the World Series, but anything can happen in the playoffs, and right now, the Sox are confident.  I think they have the best match up they could have hoped for in the 1st round.

I also wouldn't put too much on the Cubs being the best team in the NL, remember 01 I believe it was, when Seattle won 116 games or something like that, and went on to lose in the first round.

Ohhhhh pearso.  I was waiting for you to say that!!   "anything can happen in the playoffs".  That is exactly what I have been saying all year.  It was YOU who said earlier in the season that the Cubs can't win in the playoffs because of starting pitching.  Its interesting how your perspective changes your opinion.

Nonetheless I still agree anything can happen in the playoffs.  I have said this about a million times and its still true.  However, sucking it up at the end of the season has no correlation to playoff success as far as I'm concerned.  But if thats what makes you guys feel better then so be it!   And I'm not eating any crow deucemeister.  Did I want the Sox to lose to the Twins...yes I did.  But I never said it couldn't happen, in fact I said a week ago on this thread that I thought the Sox would get in the playoffs.  Now I get to root for the DRays that much harder.  They were already the team in the AL I wanted to see win. (a year ago i would have bet every dollar I have that the Devil Rays would not make the playoffs, much less the World Series, for god's sake they have more wins this year than they have fans!)

[deucemeister]

Cubs showed their true colors once again....yellow...... from choking;.  Tune in tomorrow to see how a real Chicago team plays when the pressure is on.   Bye Bye northsiders; remember there'e always next year...just like the sign at the bar that says "free beer tomorrow"..

[pearso66]

Ohhhhh pearso.  I was waiting for you to say that!!   "anything can happen in the playoffs".  That is exactly what I have been saying all year.  It was YOU who said earlier in the season that the Cubs can't win in the playoffs because of starting pitching.  Its interesting how your perspective changes your opinion.

Nonetheless I still agree anything can happen in the playoffs.  I have said this about a million times and its still true.  However, sucking it up at the end of the season has no correlation to playoff success as far as I'm concerned.  But if thats what makes you guys feel better then so be it!   And I'm not eating any crow deucemeister.  Did I want the Sox to lose to the Twins...yes I did.  But I never said it couldn't happen, in fact I said a week ago on this thread that I thought the Sox would get in the playoffs.  Now I get to root for the DRays that much harder.  They were already the team in the AL I wanted to see win. (a year ago i would have bet every dollar I have that the Devil Rays would not make the playoffs, much less the World Series, for god's sake they have more wins this year than they have fans!)

I never said the cubs couldn't win, I believe my words were, I don't think they will.  This is the 2nd time you have said that I said they CAN'T win.  As I responded the first time, and will again, I didn't say that.  Zambrano's injury wasn't that bad, and Dempster has held up, although he isn't as good as he was earlier in the year.   So obviously I was wrong about the starting pitching holding up, but I never said can't.

All I was pointing out in my last post was that the underdogs can win, and they have recently, they've also lost too, and that favorites can lose, and they have recently, but they've also won.  Just proving basically that anything can happen.  You were the one who said the Sox have to hope for a miracle.  I feel that if they Sox play the way they are capable, they can very easily be in the World Series.  If they play the way they have played recently, they won't be.  The Cubs have also played very good at times this year, and also very bad at times.  Both have had their ups and downs, and both have very good teams.

Also, I am not rooting against the Cubs because of my hatred of them, I could really care less about them.  I am rooting against them because every Cubs fan I know has been crowning them champions since the beginning of the season.  They have been awfully cocky about a team that hasn't won in 100 years. 

[deucemeister]

I agree on the point about bragadocious Cubs fans celebrating and looking too far ahead, when the present moment is the only thing that matters. Solid starting pitching and  bats are what wins (Fukudome and Sorianao are great defensively but are automatic outs; Lee started out hot, but in the late season....)
    Another example of how the Cubs don't just live in the present moment; Ozzie would never have allowed that ridiculous antic about blessing the dugout to rid the billygoat curse to take place; that was the kiss of death and just proves that the team believes in such nonsense and thinks that will somehow help them win, rather than playing ball the way they should be doing and are fully capable of..  I still want them to win so the Sox can kick their butts, but won't break my heart when they lose this series either.

[CEValkyrie]

Even Ozzie isn't stupid enough not to start Z game one. I think Dusty took over Lou's mind. No visit to the mound & no one up in the pen. Unreal!

[stpitner]

Even Ozzie isn't stupid enough not to start Z game one. I think Dusty took over Lou's mind. No visit to the mound & no one up in the pen. Unreal!

are you talking about the slam?  Rothschild had already made a visit to the mound and there were people up in the bullpen.  Wasn't demp pulled right after the slam?  I had to avert my eyes after it happened.

Hopefully no more sinkerball pitchers for the next three games.  The Cubs can't hit them.

A guy at my work decided to email just about everyone at the office with a giant L in the email.  What I don't understand is that his team is just as much at risk to get an L tonight as well.  I don't get it.  It got to the point where the IT team had to send out an email asking everyone to stop abusing the system!  I'm not intending to retaliate, and I never will.  I just don't understand when people want to rub something in your face like that.

[pearso66]

    Another example of how the Cubs don't just live in the present moment; Ozzie would never have allowed that ridiculous antic about blessing the dugout to rid the billygoat curse to take place; that was the kiss of death and just proves that the team believes in such nonsense and thinks that will somehow help them win, rather than playing ball the way they should be doing and are fully capable of..  I still want them to win so the Sox can kick their butts, but won't break my heart when they lose this series either.

I think this is the reason the Cubs havn't won the last few years when they've had the chance.  They are always sitting on the excuse that, well we're cursed, not our fault.  Seeing the dugout being blessed assured me of this.  If they lose in the first round, someone will blame the clergyman who blessed it, saying he wasn't good enough to rid them of the curse.

[airspuds]

white sox will win today

there i said it

i agree that the email at work stuff is stupid
i print it up and tape it the monitor

click to pick

dye

[Jon Brakel]

As I've said before, my father is from Oregon didn't know you couldn't root for both home town teams and he used to take us to both parks when we were kids. I think Bruce and I paid a little more attention to the Cubs because they were on during the day when we had control of the tv and because we were able to and allowed to go to Cubs games on our own. But I don't consider myself a "fan" of either team because "fan" is short for "fanatical" and it's just a game. Nothing to be a fanatic about. I might be a borderline Bears fanatic but since I'm able to root for other teams in the many years that the Bears weren't in the playoffs, I think I'm keeping it in perspective.

That said, I enjoy watching most of the rest of you berate each other because of what team you like or more precisely, what team you hate. I'm still hoping for a Cubs/White Sox World Series this year. As someone who likes both teams, that would be cool. Watching the Cubs lose last night sucked. The White Sox game the night before was more exciting than any WS game in 2005! I think the Cubs will bounce back and win game 2. Can't wait to find out what happens in both series!

By the way, if you ever are in the mood for a sad story just ask me about my "White Sox" story.

[Chainmeister]

white sox will win today

there i said it

i agree that the email at work stuff is stupid
i print it up and tape it the monitor

click to pick

dye

My click to pick the oft maligned Javy Vazquez.  9k's with 2 earned runs in 7 innings.

I think Dempster made the right decision to pitch around Manny even though he was ahead in the count.  His mistake was walking the next guy which made him not want to walk a third guy and then...well you know.  They tried to pitch around Manny later and the ball he golfed out of the park was unhittable. I thought he would hit himself in the foot with his bat.  I am amazed by that home run.  

[JCthrills]

probably a much higher chancce of a "smog" series in LA than a "what would you call it?" series in Chicago.

Woudl be nice though to see Torre take it to the Red Sox in the WS.

I love the smirk he gets when asked about New York.

Another pipe dream.... every series is decided in Game 7.  has that ever happened in the wild card era?