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Started by Tom McManus, August 21, 2009, 12:27:50 AM

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Tom McManus

All joking aside, Cutler did make a great play last night on his second interception.  He got laid out after the interception, jumped up and over the guy and still chased down the other player and made a great tackle.  Bad pass, but a great play to make the tackle and save a touchdown.

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There is playoff futbol in Chicago. Viva Fire!

CEValkyrie

Cutler is going to be a great QB.
We have a solid RB and TE.

#1 Get some WR's. The Bears have not addressed this issue for several seasons. It's not good when Devin Hester is your #1 WR.  I said this last year and will say it again this year. The Bears WR's are some of the worst in the NFL. Boldin??

#2 Get rid of Turner. He is absolutely brutal and has done nothing with the Bears since he's arrived. Not one season in the top 15 in total offense in his 6 years. Peyton Manning couldn't even throw a TD vs this SF defense. What makes Turner think our stellar passing game is going to get the job done in the red zone?

#3 Angelo
From the Sun Times.
Angelo has drafted 43 players in the last five drafts and they count 10 of those players as starters, but none of them are elite. No one is left from the 2005 draft. Devin Hester is the best the Bears have to show from 2006, an improving wide receiver but not the true No.1 talent the team has been forecasting for years. Greg Olsen leads the Class of 2007. The hope is right tackle Chris Williams, the top pick from 2008, blossoms into a left tackle the team doesn't have to worry about, but he has had back surgery and has struggled. This last draft was thin after the Cutler trade, but wide receiver Johnny Knox has provided a boost while safety Al Afalava is the flavor of choice this season in a secondary that has a history of rotating late-round draft picks like him.
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I think Cutler's interceptions have more to do with the lack of protection he's getting and his trying to make something out of nothing. Cutler is the kind of QB who will throw some interceptions but it is worse because of the protection and play calling, in my opinion.

I think Knox might mature into a really good WR. He's made some great catches this year. He should improve in the next year. But I'm all for getting more good receivers in the mix.

I say out with Lovie and in with Ron Rivera! I'm sure that change will take care of Turner also!  ;)
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No line, no recievers, a tight end that doesn't know how to block, and a questionable running back and no good draft picks in the near future. The next couple years are going to be brutal. Cutler will want out. This team is in disarray. As Dikta said once 'we may never win another game this year'. Fire Turner and hire Shanahan. That would be a start.
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Quote from: CEValkyrie on November 13, 2009, 08:34:09 AM
#3 Angelo
From the Sun Times.
Angelo has drafted 43 players in the last five drafts and they count 10 of those players as starters, but none of them are elite. No one is left from the 2005 draft. Devin Hester is the best the Bears have to show from 2006, an improving wide receiver but not the true No.1 talent the team has been forecasting for years. Greg Olsen leads the Class of 2007. The hope is right tackle Chris Williams, the top pick from 2008, blossoms into a left tackle the team doesn't have to worry about, but he has had back surgery and has struggled. This last draft was thin after the Cutler trade, but wide receiver Johnny Knox has provided a boost while safety Al Afalava is the flavor of choice this season in a secondary that has a history of rotating late-round draft picks like him.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1879923,CST-SPT-bear12.article


Break it down further and it gets worse. The Bears only have 5 or 6 players on the roster from Jerry Angelo's 16 1st and 2nd round picks since he has been GM. That is a sad judge of talent. I heard that on the 670am not too long ago.

Has been time to clean house for a while. Oh well. At least there is Hockey.

Tom McManus

This is shaping up to be a great year in the NFL.  There are some amazingly good teams and 3 or 4 really strong candidates for MVP.  I had Favre at the top of the list, but after last night, Breese moves to the top of my list.

Stan the Blue Man

I still have Favre as the MVP of the leagues unless something drastically happens. I am not doubting Brees but he does have one of the top 3 WRS duo in the Leagues. Favre is amazing even at the age of 40 and he never really had a number one and Harvin, Rice and Shinco are really have outstanding years.  But I will disappointed as of right now if Favre does not win the MVP.  but we still have 5 games left in the season.  So anything can happen

Dan Michler

The league MVP is Peyton Manning as it is every year.  If he doesn't win its only because its boring to give it to the same guy every year.  The same thing used to happen to Michael Jordan.  Nobody is 'more valuable' than Manning.

Stan, your argument is insane.  Favre has one of the best offensive lines in the game, the best running back in the game, and Berrian/Rice/Shiancoe/Harvin to throw the ball to.  You are arguing that he is doing it with less support?  That is crazy.  I'm not denying his numbers to this point compare favorably to any other QB in the league, but don't tell me he is doing it single handedly.  Favre has never thrown less than 13 interceptions during any season in his entire career and he has averaged 21 interceptions per season over the last 4 seasons.  Does anybody think he'll keep this up?  Reality will probably set in during the playoffs.  A Vikings/Saints matchup in the NFC title game would be interesting to watch.

The AFC is pretty wide open after the Colts.  I'll take the Chargers as the #1 contender.  Doug Payne hasn't come on here to patronize anybody recently.  Maybe thats cuz the Steelers have dropped 3 in a row.  The Patriots look pretty vulnerable.  Definitely not the same team they were from 2001-2007, but still they have a chance.  The Bengals have such a good running game right now, I think they can keep any game close and will be tough to beat in the playoffs.  Baltimore is way too inconsistent and are the most overrated team in the NFL.  I think I heard the other day that they have been the favorites in every game this season.  They are 6-5.
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They haven't been the favorites every game, but close. Baltimore and Arizona are two teams that have been wildly inconsistent all season, that's for sure. Definitely a tougher pick'em year than normal.
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Quote from: Dan Michler on December 01, 2009, 08:37:13 AM
The league MVP is Peyton Manning as it is every year.  If he doesn't win its only because its boring to give it to the same guy every year.  The same thing used to happen to Michael Jordan.  Nobody is 'more valuable' than Manning.

Stan, your argument is insane.  Favre has one of the best offensive lines in the game, the best running back in the game, and Berrian/Rice/Shiancoe/Harvin to throw the ball to.  You are arguing that he is doing it with less support?  That is crazy.  I'm not denying his numbers to this point compare favorably to any other QB in the league, but don't tell me he is doing it single handedly.  Favre has never thrown less than 13 interceptions during any season in his entire career and he has averaged 21 interceptions per season over the last 4 seasons.  Does anybody think he'll keep this up?  Reality will probably set in during the playoffs.  A Vikings/Saints matchup in the NFC title game would be interesting to watch.

The AFC is pretty wide open after the Colts.  I'll take the Chargers as the #1 contender.  Doug Payne hasn't come on here to patronize anybody recently.  Maybe thats cuz the Steelers have dropped 3 in a row.  The Patriots look pretty vulnerable.  Definitely not the same team they were from 2001-2007, but still they have a chance.  The Bengals have such a good running game right now, I think they can keep any game close and will be tough to beat in the playoffs.  Baltimore is way too inconsistent and are the most overrated team in the NFL.  I think I heard the other day that they have been the favorites in every game this season.  They are 6-5.


I thought I would try that thing of being a nice guy since your Bears are letting you down, just about as bad as the Cubs did.

Pitt has dropped 3 in a row, but have Oakland then Cleveland, so their playoff hopes still alive. And I honestly think they will get there if Troy is healthy before next Baltimore game in  4 weeks.


But once again, Chicago fans have been let down. Maybe the Blackhawks can win it. But then again, they were picked to, so they will probably choke as well.
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I would normally agree that Oakland and Cleveland are easy wins, but Kansas City.....<insert here>
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Quote from: tacimala on December 03, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
I would normally agree that Oakland and Cleveland are easy wins, but Kansas City.....<insert here>

Or how about the Bears too?  Any team that loses to KC and Chicago this season, you've got some problems.
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Excellent point Dan! After all, the Bears will be the third team to lose to one of the worst losing teams in history.
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Quote from: tacimala on December 04, 2009, 06:45:34 AM
Excellent point Dan! After all, the Bears will be the third team to lose to one of the worst losing teams in history.

You might be right!  I'm sure Denver is pulling for that so they can get a higher 1st round draft pick in 2010.  Also, Tampa can get a higher 2nd round pick.

Sure, the Bears don't have 1st or 2nd round picks in next year's draft, but that shouldn't really be a problem with the team we already have.....  Wait a second.  We are fu*&%ed!!!  Maybe we can trade Forte for a draft pick?
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Quote from: Dan Michler on December 04, 2009, 05:31:07 AM
Quote from: tacimala on December 03, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
I would normally agree that Oakland and Cleveland are easy wins, but Kansas City.....<insert here>

Or how about the Bears too?  Any team that loses to KC and Chicago this season, you've got some problems.

they do have a problem. Polamalu  is hurt, but will be back to play the Packers in 3 weeks. Let's see how they are with him back in the lineup. And they suck on special teams, I will give you that.but....
does not matter who you lose to in the regular season, it's the playoffs that count.
2006, they were 10-6. Last year 11-5 going into the playoffs. and they beat #3, #2, and #1 seeds in 2006, so never count out the ONLY 6-TIME Superbowl Champions!!

Oakland, @ Cleveland, Green Bay, Baltimore, then @ Miami. At 6-5 now, I say they will be the #5 or #6 seed. Probably finishing 10-6

And 1 last thing. the Steelers never have to worry about draft picks, unlike your pathetic Bears Dannyboy!!
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So Ben Roethlisberger should still be on the bench hanging out as Tommy Maddox' lackey? This logic seems flawed my friend.
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I feel if he practiced, he should have played. He took half of Dixons snaps that week, and  Dixon still took Baltimore to overtime.  a 3rd stringer.

Ben will be back Sunday, and you guys will see for yourselves.


W vs Oakland
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I just don't understand why you 2 want to hate so much?? I can't help it I cheer for winning teams, and you 2 are stuck with Chicago and Detroit. Without the Redwings, when was the last title?? 1984 World Series? Are you even old enough to remeber that Taylor?  Oh I'm sorry, the Pistons did win a couple not to long ago huh? But thats the NBA. Does that really  count?  ;D
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Quote from: pdga#7648 on December 04, 2009, 09:13:00 PM

I just don't understand why you 2 want to hate so much?? I can't help it I cheer for winning teams, and you 2 are stuck with Chicago and Detroit. Without the Redwings, when was the last title?? 1984 World Series? Are you even old enough to remeber that Taylor?  Oh I'm sorry, the Pistons did win a couple not to long ago huh? But thats the NBA. Does that really  count?  ;D
Doug, I'm pretty sure people only like to give you such a hard time because...you yourself are the hater.  Look back on this thread.  People started a conversation about the 2009 Bears and you came in with alot of capital letters proclaiming them as a joke and that the Steelers are the greatest team of all-time.  Then you are surprised when we point out the Steeler's struggles this year?

If you are going to cheer for winning teams as you suggest, then you should root for the Colts this year.  Cuz the Steelers have zero chance of getting past them, IF they even make the playoffs.
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Proclaiming?? I think it was more like stating the facts about the 2009  Bears.

And cmon Dan, 6 titles! Who has more? So numbers dont lie. 6 is better than 5 everytime you look at it. So that statement that Pittsburgh the best of all-time, again, the truth.

And don't say zero chance. If Peyton were to go down with an injury, Sorgi wont win 1 playoff game.
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