2010 Bears

[Dan Michler]

jasonc, That was kind of you to refer to Doug Payne's posts as having some sort of "logic".

View this graphic on this link below and you'll see how faulty such thinking really is in the NFL.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/A-demonstration-of-NFL-parity-in-one-handy-circ?urn=nfl-288589

Review this thread and you'll find this quote in reference to the Steeler's OT win over Buffalo (3-10, 2-5 at home), in which a Buffalo WR dropped the game winning pass in the endzone:

"a win is a win, no matter how impressive.  Going to Buffalo is always a tough game."

Always a tough game?  Really Doug?  Compared to what other game is that considered a tough game?

Now Doug's thought process vomited this onto the forum:

The Bears almost lost to the Lions twice and the Vikings are better than the Lions, hence the Vikings will beat the Bears, despite the fact that the Bears have already beaten the Vikings.

Well that makes a hell of a lot of sense!  And of course the Bears are an automatic loss to the Packers, despite the fact that the Packers just lost to the Lions, to whom the Bears almost lost twice.

Continuing with Doug's logic, I'm not sure how the Packers are going to win over the Pats and the Giants the next 2 weeks.  Then they play the Bears, who twice beat a Lions team that the Packers just lost to.  Also, the Bears get to play a Jets team that lost to a Packers team that lost to the Bears.  So, it appears we can declare the Bears division champs with a 12-4 record and a 1st round bye, and the Pack finishing out at 8-8, you know....because of logic.


Doug, I understand you are gleeful because the Bears played bad and you see an opportunity to jump on Bears fans at a moment of weakness.  I totally get that.  But you really need to come up with an argument that is semi-coherent and a little less embarrassing.  There is definitely a real chance the Bears could lose the rest of their games.  Also a real chance that the Packers could lose the rest of their games.  Now come back on here to redeem yourself and give us a sound reason why the Packers will prevail over the Bears. Something beyond "because Team A beat Team B, who lost to Team C, hence Team A will beat Team C".  Maybe because the Bears are toward the bottom of the league in total offense and haven't established any sort of consistent run game the entire season?  Heading into bad weather outdoor games, this can't be good, right?

[Tom McManus]

jasonc, That was kind of you to refer to Doug Payne's posts as having some sort of "logic".

View this graphic on this link below and you'll see how faulty such thinking really is in the NFL.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/A-demonstration-of-NFL-parity-in-one-handy-circ?urn=nfl-288589

Review this thread and you'll find this quote in reference to the Steeler's OT win over Buffalo (3-10, 2-5 at home), in which a Buffalo WR dropped the game winning pass in the endzone:

"a win is a win, no matter how impressive.  Going to Buffalo is always a tough game."

Always a tough game?  Really Doug?  Compared to what other game is that considered a tough game?

Now Doug's thought process vomited this onto the forum:

The Bears almost lost to the Lions twice and the Vikings are better than the Lions, hence the Vikings will beat the Bears, despite the fact that the Bears have already beaten the Vikings.

Well that makes a hell of a lot of sense!  And of course the Bears are an automatic loss to the Packers, despite the fact that the Packers just lost to the Lions, to whom the Bears almost lost twice.

Continuing with Doug's logic, I'm not sure how the Packers are going to win over the Pats and the Giants the next 2 weeks.  Then they play the Bears, who twice beat a Lions team that the Packers just lost to.  Also, the Bears get to play a Jets team that lost to a Packers team that lost to the Bears.  So, it appears we can declare the Bears division champs with a 12-4 record and a 1st round bye, and the Pack finishing out at 8-8, you know....because of logic.


Doug, I understand you are gleeful because the Bears played bad and you see an opportunity to jump on Bears fans at a moment of weakness.  I totally get that.  But you really need to come up with an argument that is semi-coherent and a little less embarrassing.  There is definitely a real chance the Bears could lose the rest of their games.  Also a real chance that the Packers could lose the rest of their games.  Now come back on here to redeem yourself and give us a sound reason why the Packers will prevail over the Bears. Something beyond "because Team A beat Team B, who lost to Team C, hence Team A will beat Team C".  Maybe because the Bears are toward the bottom of the league in total offense and haven't established any sort of consistent run game the entire season?  Heading into bad weather outdoor games, this can't be good, right?

Dan you will have to forgive Doug on this one, he is apoplectic.  If he gets involved in this argument he will either have to support the Bears or the Packers. Not wanting to do either is very upsetting to him.

[pdga#7648]

Logic? you of all people Dan.


Okay, let's try this.

 
Bears @ Minn   at unknown site right now-  Brett Favre has a 22-8 alltime record against Chicago. It will be his last game ever against them, so I think he will pull out a win. With a healthy Harvin, Rice, and AP, too much offense . And a great pass rush, will have Cutler laying on his back.  Bears lose to go to 9-5

Never said Green Bay will beat the Patriots, cause they wont. Lose to go to 8-6



Jets @ Bears     The Jets are 2-1 vs that conference, with the loss coming to Green Bay. After a 3rd straight loss this weekend in Pittsburgh, they will have to win the remaining 2 games to sneak into the playoffs.  I truly believe their defense is better than the Bears, so Bears lose a close 1, 17-13    go to 9-6


Giants @ Packers.  If Rodgers is healthy by then. The Pack already won @ Philly 27-20 and won vs  Dallas 45-7, while Losing @ Washington in week #5. The Giants have to be the most unpredictable NFC teams in the last 5-8 years so, who knows which team shows up in Green Bay??   Packers defense comes up BIG and Pack wins 27-20. Putting them at  9-6.




That would put them both at 9-6 Bears @ Green Bay

FACT- under Aaron Rodgers, 2008- present the Packers are 2-0 vs Chicago in Green Bay, outscoring them 58-18. That being said, again, for the division on the line, the Bears wont go to Lambeau and win when they have to. Can't protect your QB, you can't win in December/January.
Packers win 24-16.



But cmon Dan. get real. I don't come here to give Chicago fans a hard time( just you buddy ) I only call it how I see it. Right or wrong, I am not afraid to voice my opinion on anything, especially something I know like sports. I can't help it that I cheer for winning teams and you are a true, diehard, loyal as can be fan to the Bears, and Cubs. I feel for ya, I really do. 102 years, and 26 years are a long time to be LOSERS.
But you want to talk about embarrassing?
What is really sad is every year we get to see you make BOLD , VERY BOLD predictions about your Cubs and Bears, and every year is the same disappointment. Quit embarrassing yourself. We know you love them to death. But you have to start using some LOGIC and wake up and smell the coffee dude. IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN in your lifetime for the Cubs. And cherish the 85 Bears, cause you probably wont ever see them win another one.

We here hate seeing you get all excited every spring and fall just to be let down( like you didn't know what was coming) We don't have to know every year that you were once again disappointed. we get it, EVERY year.

You stated back a week or so ago, Bears would get a 1st round bye and finish 11-5. Again very BOLD!!


But I will leave you with this... I am human, I may be wrong on the next 3 weeks, so just in case I am. Bears still wont get a bye, and IF they make the playoffs, like your Cubs 2 years ago got swept in the playoffs, Bears will be 1 and done! And you will be hoping for Spring to hurry up and get here

[pdga#7648]

jasonc, That was kind of you to refer to Doug Payne's posts as having some sort of "logic".

View this graphic on this link below and you'll see how faulty such thinking really is in the NFL.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/A-demonstration-of-NFL-parity-in-one-handy-circ?urn=nfl-288589

Review this thread and you'll find this quote in reference to the Steeler's OT win over Buffalo (3-10, 2-5 at home), in which a Buffalo WR dropped the game winning pass in the endzone:

"a win is a win, no matter how impressive.  Going to Buffalo is always a tough game."

Always a tough game?  Really Doug?  Compared to what other game is that considered a tough game?

Now Doug's thought process vomited this onto the forum:

The Bears almost lost to the Lions twice and the Vikings are better than the Lions, hence the Vikings will beat the Bears, despite the fact that the Bears have already beaten the Vikings.

Well that makes a hell of a lot of sense!  And of course the Bears are an automatic loss to the Packers, despite the fact that the Packers just lost to the Lions, to whom the Bears almost lost twice.

Continuing with Doug's logic, I'm not sure how the Packers are going to win over the Pats and the Giants the next 2 weeks.  Then they play the Bears, who twice beat a Lions team that the Packers just lost to.  Also, the Bears get to play a Jets team that lost to a Packers team that lost to the Bears.  So, it appears we can declare the Bears division champs with a 12-4 record and a 1st round bye, and the Pack finishing out at 8-8, you know....because of logic.


Doug, I understand you are gleeful because the Bears played bad and you see an opportunity to jump on Bears fans at a moment of weakness.  I totally get that.  But you really need to come up with an argument that is semi-coherent and a little less embarrassing.  There is definitely a real chance the Bears could lose the rest of their games.  Also a real chance that the Packers could lose the rest of their games.  Now come back on here to redeem yourself and give us a sound reason why the Packers will prevail over the Bears. Something beyond "because Team A beat Team B, who lost to Team C, hence Team A will beat Team C".  Maybe because the Bears are toward the bottom of the league in total offense and haven't established any sort of consistent run game the entire season?  Heading into bad weather outdoor games, this can't be good, right?

Dan you will have to forgive Doug on this one, he is apoplectic.  If he gets involved in this argument he will either have to support the Bears or the Packers. Not wanting to do either is very upsetting to him.

Tom, I respect the Packers, it's the Bears I hate!

[Dan Michler]

You stated back a week or so ago, Bears would get a 1st round bye and finish 11-5. Again very BOLD!!

If you actually read the post on this thread Doug, I said "the Bears could potentially go 11-5 and get a 1st round bye", and then "I would say they have about a 33% chance at the bye".  I'm not sure how that is equated with a bold prediction.  It is not a prediction at all.

I see you are sticking with your same formulas.  I especially enjoy your analysis of the Green Bay/Giants matchup.  Lets see, the Packers beat Philly and Dallas, but lost to Washington....calculating....Green Bay 27 NYG 20.  I think Keyshawn Johnson has been reading your posts on DISContinuum before he goes on ESPN Sunday NFL Countdown.  Very insightful...

[CEValkyrie]

Pretty interesting game coming up. Jackson was put on IR. Farve may not play. The 3rd stringer has a hamstring injury. Patrick Ramsay may start after being picked up yesterday. Add on top all of the preparation of this game to be played and Minnesota's stadium.

[Dan Michler]

Its looking conceivable right now that the Bears could end up the 3 seed and the Packers the 6 seed, which would create a Green Bay @ Chicago playoff matchup for the first time ever.  If that happens, all of the GB fans who live in the Chicago area should just relocate temporarily.  I'm talking to you McManus!!  I will egg your damn house if I have to!!

[Tom McManus]

Its looking conceivable right now that the Bears could end up the 3 seed and the Packers the 6 seed, which would create a Green Bay @ Chicago playoff matchup for the first time ever.  If that happens, all of the GB fans who live in the Chicago area should just relocate temporarily.  I'm talking to you McManus!!  I will egg your damn house if I have to!!

In the back of mind I thought, "is it a good idea that Michler knows where I live?"  I guess I know the answer now. 

I would be shocked if the Packers make the playoffs this year. They only have themselves to blame with poor special team play.

[Chainmeister]

[I would be shocked if the Packers make the playoffs this year. They only have themselves to blame with poor special team play.

Well, if the Packers are competing with the Giants for that last spot you should not lose hope.  I think the team that lost to Philly after blowing a 21 point loss with a bad special teams play is worse than the team that could't quite match up with the best team in the NFL despite playing their third string QB. Of course we will know the answer to that question by 615 pm this coming Sunday.

[pdga#7648]

Favre has been upgraded to questionable, and may play!!

[CEValkyrie]

AP out. Sweet!

[pdga#7648]

Favre WILL start!

[CEValkyrie]

DA Bears! Division Champs.

[Steven Jacobs]

Favre WILL start!

Favre DID get hurt!

[pdga#7648]

DA Bears! Division Champs.

and as much as it hurts to say....

They looked pretty good last night!

[Dan Michler]

These next 2 games are still extremely important.  If we can with them both, we have a 1st round bye and a home playoff game to get to the NFC title game.  And if Atlanta was to lose in the 2nd round (very possible, they probably will face the Saints in that game who will be the 5 seed and have a 1st round game against the winner of the abysmal NFC West), the Bears could even end up with a home game in the NFC title game.

The way I'd like to see it go:

1st rd   Saints 5 seed beat the Rams 4 seed
          Philly 3 seed beats the Giants/Packers 6 seed

2nd rd  Bears 2 seed beat Philly 3 seed (we dominated them in Chicago just a few weeks ago)
           Saints 5 seed beat Atlanta 1 seed

3rd rd  Bears win at home over the Saints, who clearly are at a disadvantage in cold weather.

[pdga#7648]

very impressive win again today.

[The Bogey Man]

Took my lady to her first Bears game yesturday.
Perfect game for a break-in at Soldier Field.
We were close enough to spit on Sanchez,
not that we did. Just sayin thats how close we were.
Was a great game.
DA BEARS!

[The Bogey Man]

These next 2 games are still extremely important.  If we can with them both, we have a 1st round bye and a home playoff game to get to the NFC title game.  And if Atlanta was to lose in the 2nd round (very possible, they probably will face the Saints in that game who will be the 5 seed and have a 1st round game against the winner of the abysmal NFC West), the Bears could even end up with a home game in the NFC title game.

The way I'd like to see it go:

1st rd   Saints 5 seed beat the Rams 4 seed
          Philly 3 seed beats the Giants/Packers 6 seed

2nd rd  Bears 2 seed beat Philly 3 seed (we dominated them in Chicago just a few weeks ago)
           Saints 5 seed beat Atlanta 1 seed

3rd rd  Bears win at home over the Saints, who clearly are at a disadvantage in cold weather.

Like to see the Bills get that #6 seed.

[jasonc]

These next 2 games are still extremely important.  If we can with them both, we have a 1st round bye and a home playoff game to get to the NFC title game.  And if Atlanta was to lose in the 2nd round (very possible, they probably will face the Saints in that game who will be the 5 seed and have a 1st round game against the winner of the abysmal NFC West), the Bears could even end up with a home game in the NFC title game.

The way I'd like to see it go:

1st rd   Saints 5 seed beat the Rams 4 seed
          Philly 3 seed beats the Giants/Packers 6 seed

2nd rd  Bears 2 seed beat Philly 3 seed (we dominated them in Chicago just a few weeks ago)
           Saints 5 seed beat Atlanta 1 seed

3rd rd  Bears win at home over the Saints, who clearly are at a disadvantage in cold weather.

Like to see the Bills get that #6 seed.

I'd like to see that too.  Although it would be strange considering they are an AFC team.