2004 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES

[Jon Brakel]

The 2004 Crystal Cruise is history. The PDGA reports are done except for the Saturday $5 fee non-member report.

Here are the payout results using PDGA reporting method:

Saturday
Amateur: 154%
Pro: 123%

Sunday
Amateur: 135%
Pro: 112%

The Pros were paid out 100% of their entry fee less $2 per player PDGA fee. This is 100% according to PDGA reporting methods. The over 100% comes from trophies (which were not deducted from payout) and a share of the CTPs offered.

Payout for the Amateurs includes a $15 brass cash player pack for those that took that option.

<<edited to change the amateur payout %. My first calculations had underreported it>>

[Guest]

Wow.  No wonder we did not make any money!    

Actually, our cash sales were over-the-top and we set aside some money for the finals.  The overall plaques will not come out of the Finals.  The Finals should be as fat as all the rest of the events.

[Guest]

That unregistered guest was Bruce.  So is this one.

[SERG]

Just figured out that the IOS #3 is the same day as the Rumbletown tournament in Milwaukee. I'm going to be playing at Rumbletown so I'm gonna miss the final IOS. I need to be at Rumbletown to try and collect more points in the Wisconsin Tour. I'm sitting tied for 5th right now. Top point winners earn a spot in the Tour Finale in October.

Sorry guys...

[airspuds]

where are the results ?

bear with me its early

[Jon Brakel]

where are the results ?

bear with me its early

pdga.com

I'll add them to the tournament site soon.

[CEValkyrie]

Just figured out that the IOS #3 is the same day as the Rumbletown tournament in Milwaukee. I'm going to be playing at Rumbletown so I'm gonna miss the final IOS. I need to be at Rumbletown to try and collect more points in the Wisconsin Tour. I'm sitting tied for 5th right now. Top point winners earn a spot in the Tour Finale in October.

Sorry guys...

You can always come out on Sunday & play Advanced .

[Jon Brakel]

I just realized that I miscalculated player packs for Sunday. I'll redo the math tonight, but the Am % for Sunday should be a little bit higher.

[SERG]

You can always come out on Sunday & play Advanced .

I actually thought about it, but I'm not sure I'll be able to compete in the Advanced Division after playing Dretzka in Milwaukee. I guess I still have a "little" time to think about it.

[Bruce Brakel]

My IOS #3 Innova order came yesterday, or, we discovered it yesterday.  I have not opened it yet but I should have Janine's [I know i spelled that wrong, but I don't have the leaderboard cards] 150 Class Valks and Justin's Beasts, Rocs, and Leopards.  I will bag these with your name on it and put them in the lay away box.  

This is how that works:  I will hold your special order lay away items until the end of registration on Sunday at IOS #3.  If you don't show up to play on Saturday or Sunday, they become general merch.  

If you were asking about UV drivers [someone was but it did not go down as a special order] I have some UV 'Cats and UV Expresses in right now.  I can set some aside for you if you let me know.  I have a regular demand for those and they won't necessarily last until the end of the month.  Same is true for Stingrays and Pro Orcs.  

The dyed micro basket mini trophies we are experimenting with look mostly awesome.  Like any dye work, some look like fertilizer, but tastes vary.  We will be selling them at Worlds.  If we don't sell out, we will trophyize the left overs.  If we sell out, we will make more, but not so many that look like fertilizer.

[airspuds]

found results

duh

[Jon Brakel]

OK, I fixed my mistake and corrected the original post.

Saturday
Amateur: 154%
Pro: 123%

Sunday
Amateur: 135%
Pro: 112%

One reason that our payouts are over 100% (PDGA calculations) at all of our tournaments is because we don't take the cost of the trophies out of the payout. Another reason is that we offer a $15 player pack (to meet the minimum $10 player pack B tier standard), but only take $10 out of the payout to cover the player pack. When I do the PDGA report I report the value of the trophies ($10 each) and the value of the player packs ($15 each). This already makes our payout over 100% in PDGA calculations. However, this is the BASE amateur payout for the IOS. On top of this, once we figure out our financials in the morning, we add CTPs for the afternoon round based on how profitable the tournament is. Before we give back even more with the CTPs we make sure we have enough money to cover the costs of everything and the PDGA fees and misc. expenses. So far we have been doing fine financially and have been able to give back around $300 in CTP prizes at the first two events PLUS save the money for overall trophies.

Bottom line is when you play one of the IOS events you can expect that your division will be paid back 100% of entry fee in prizes (less per player PDGA fee for pro divisions only) PLUS trophies PLUS CTP prizes.

Can you tell that we are disc golf tournament players running tournaments for disc golf tournament players?

[SERG]

Just figured out that the IOS #3 is the same day as the Rumbletown tournament in Milwaukee. I'm going to be playing at Rumbletown so I'm gonna miss the final IOS. I need to be at Rumbletown to try and collect more points in the Wisconsin Tour. I'm sitting tied for 5th right now. Top point winners earn a spot in the Tour Finale in October.

Sorry guys...

I'm slowly leaning toward playing the Fairfield Farewell rather than Rumbletown. I just realized that Rumbletown isn't a sanctioned event. I think I'd rather compete for points/rating in the Farewell.

If anyone else from Kenosha is planning on playing, let me know and perhaps we could carpool...maybe even find a day to go and play a practice round.

[ochreogre]

Serg,

Still kicking around the idea of playing IO #3 vs. Rumbletown as well.  Kyle and I talked about getting down to Fairfield or up to Dretzka either this weekend or next.  I've never played either course particularly well, but IO is at least sacntioned, and it would be nice to get a rating one of these days.    

If we do head to one of the two, I'll let you know.  

Steve

[airspuds]

two words for you having trouble deciding which T to go to

ACE FUND  

[CEValkyrie]

two words for you having trouble deciding which T to go to

ACE FUND

More words.


PAYOUTS!!!

&

$170.00 ACE POOL.

[Dan Michler]

Plus holes 8 and 17 are under 150 foot holes which are commonly aced.

[SERG]

OK, OK...you've talked me into it...I'm more interested in the ratings than the ace pool...although it would be nice come home with more money than I went with.

[airspuds]

so you will donate the ace fund back to the club after you hit it
?

[mirth]

Its not the club's ace fund to begin with, but we're always happy to receive donations...